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06/06/00 LCEC AgP - I NOTICE Land Conservation & Environment Committee will meet Tuesday, June 6 th 2000 , And at 5:45 p.m. at Shorewood City Hall 5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, MN 55331 Agenda 1. Convene Meeting A. Role Call B. Review Agenda 2. Approval of Minutes-Meeting of May 9th, 2000 3. Discussion on Deer Issues • 4. Discussion on Gedion's Glen-Mayor Love 5. Discussion on Open Space-Dan Dickel 6. Adjournment A majority of the City Council may be present. No Council action will be taken. • City of Shorewood Land Conservation and Environmental Committee Tuesday, May 9, 2000 1. MINUTES Meeting called to order at 6:15 p.m. by Chair Fred Bruno. 2. ROLL CALL Present - Chair Fred Bruno, Lucinda Kircher, Donna Woodruff, Anthony Pin and Daniel Ehrke Absent - Joel Jurgens, Tom Schmid and Paula Berndt 3. REVIEW OF AGENDA The agenda was approved. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The minutes were approved. Motion by Donna Woodruff, seconded by Anthony Pin. 4- • O 5. Discussion on Deer Report Daniel Ehrke explained to the committee that the City of Shorewood has been in contact with the MN DNR and they have notified the City that currently funds are not available for an aerial survey. However, this survey would need to be done if any management options would be used to control the deer population within the City. The DNR did comment that the technology is available for the private sector to utilize the technology needed for the survey. The DNR also advised the City to keep recording any complaints or comments received regarding this issue, to use as additional sources of information at a latter date. An important part of this recording is that for reporting property damage should list a monetary value for any losses. Daniel also stated that he would be working with the DNR to make a list of options that homeowners can use to minimize damage being received to their property. This will probably be in the City's Newsletter in the upcoming months. 3. DISCUSSION ON OPEN HOUSE The committee members regarding the committee's open house made the following • comments: 1. Location should be at a high traffic area and possibly in conjunction with i another local event. 2. Committee members should wear nametags to help visitors identify committee members. 3. Try to recruit businesses to sponsor the event and assist in hanging up flyers in their window displays. 4. Possibly have an event tent. 5. Involve the local schools and students that may be interested in environmental issues. 5. Reports on Member Projects Fred Bruno stated that Tonka Bay asked for a copy of the zero phosphate lawn ordinance, which the committee reviewed in April. There was some discussion on whether the City of Shorewood will pass the ordinance and again the committee echoed their desire to see this ordinance passed by the Council. 6. ADJOURNMENT Meeting Adjourned at 7:25p.m. • i ` r MEMO TO: LCEC Committee Members FROM: Daniel Ehrke DATE: 5-26-00 SUBJECT: Guest Speaker-Dan Dickel from the City Tree Project This memo is intended to inform committee members about the meeting that Dan Dickel and I held on May 16, 2000. For those who may have missed the last meeting, Dan Dickel is the Executive Director of the City Tree Project. The City Tree Project is a non- profit organization that serves as a consultant for many metro-municipalities in regards to various environmental issues. One project that the City Tree Project is assisting in is the Basset Creek Project, where they are working to remedy the environmental hazards associated with the poor drainage in the area. I met with Dan to begin to discuss options that the City of Shorewood could initiate to begin its open space planning process. I proceeded to give Dan a copy of the Land Conservation Report, which was completed in 1998. Dan agreed to look over the report and come to our June 6th meeting to discuss how the City Tree Project can assist the City during this process. Dan also informed me that if the Committee wishes to have Dan assist the committee in the planning process, then payment would need to be made. The City Tree Project has two compensation plans that one could chose from. For a minimum of twenty hours a month they charge $35 hour or $50 hour for a zero hour commitment a month. After our discussion, I thought it would be best if Dan could attend the June 6th meeting to briefly inform the committee on how he feels the City Tree Project can benefit the City in terms of the Open Space Plan. In the mean time Dan is reviewing the report at no cost and will notify the committee at the upcoming meeting on what he sees will be the benefits of our partnership with his organization. NOTICE Land Conservation & Environment Committee will meet Tuesday, May 9th, 2000 and at 5:45 p.m. at Shorewood City Hall 5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, MN 55331 Agenda 1. Convene Meeting A. Role Call B. Review Agenda 2. Approval of Minutes - Meeting of April 4th, 2000 3. Discussion on Deer Report • 5. Discussion on April 29th Open House 6. Reports on Member Projects 7. Adjournment A majority of f the City Council may be present. No Council action will be taken. • • City of Shorewood Land Conservation and Environmental Committee Tuesday, March 14, 2000 1. MINUTES Meeting called to order at 5:47 p.m. by Chair Fred Bruno. 2. ROLL CALL Present - Chair Fred Bruno, Joel Jurgens, Tom Schmid, Lucinda Kircher, Donna Woodruff, Anthony Pini, Paula Berndt, Daniel Ehrke and Mayor Love 3. REVIEW OF AGENDA The agenda was approved. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES The minutes were approved. Motion by Lucinda Kircher, seconded by Donna Woodruff. 5-0. • 5. DISCUSSION ON DEER CONCERNS Daniel Ehrke stated to the committee that the City has received approximately thirty comments regarding the deer population within the city. Of the thirty comments there seems to be an equal distribution of people that are discouraged and pleased with the deer population in Shorewood. A report will be sent out for the May 9th meeting, which will summarize staff's discussions with the Minnesota DNR. It will also show how other cities have dealt with this issue in the Metro Area. It was also stated that the committee would like to see a link created on the City's web page to allow citizens to continually give feedback on this matter. 6. DISCUSSION ON OPEN SPACE Mayor Love addressed the proposed Open Space Survey by stating that the Council at this time had some reservations in regards to the survey. The council felt that the questions found in the survey could be adopted into the planning process for the city's comprehensive planning effort. The Mayor and the committee came to a decision that the next step for the committee to take, in terms of open space, is to begin to identify land that is available within the City. • • 7. DISCUSSION ON THE OPEN HOUSE Discussion took place in terms of the activities, which will be taking place the day of the event. Lucinda stated that she is working on having one of the Master Gardner's attend the Open House. Daniel Ehrke conformed that fifty trees will be available for the Open House. It was also suggested that Daniel contact the Minnehaha Watershed District to see if there would be the possibility for a display for the Open House. Other suggestions were made in terms of securing some quest speakers for the day of the event. The suggestion was also made that cookies and cider be available for the Open House. 8. REPORTS ON MEMBER PROJECTS Fred Bruno reported that the City of New Hope is considering Plymouth's phosphate ordinance, along with other cities along the Basset Creek Watershed District. Fred also notified the committee that he recently contacted fertilizer dealers in Shorewood, finding that none of the dealers had any concerns regarding the City imposing a zero phosphate ordinance. A motion was made by Fred Bruno and seconded by Joel Jurgen, which addressed the committee's desire to have the City Council continue to research and address the phosphate issue within the City of Shorewood. • 9. ADJOURNMENT Meeting was adjourned 7:15pm. • . MEMO TO: LCEC Committee Members FROM: Daniel Ehrke SUBJECT: Report on Deer Population Concerns DATE: 4-26-00 Introduction This memo is in regards to the deer population investigation staff has been involved with over the course of the previous months. This investigation was brought about following the letter the City of Shorewood received December 13, 1999 by the Minnetonka Country Club, listed as Attachment A. The letter stated that the Country Club had been experiencing a noticeable increase in the amount of damage they were receiving from what they perceived as a growing deer herd in the area. Following this letter, the City began to contact the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and other sources to determine what steps are required to confirm the extent of the problem. Likewise, the City wished to evaluate what options are currently available . to both citizens and the City of Shorewood to help reduce the amount of damage being inflected by the deer population within the City. Initial Contact: MN DNR Office Kathy Don Carlos 1-651-296-3450 Kathy was informed of the situation that was brought forward, steaming from the initial complaint received from the Minnetonka Country Club. She stressed that the first step would be to determine if this is an isolated case or a trend occurring throughout the Shorewood. The following are steps she encouraged the City of Shorewood to conduct, to help explore the validity of this issue. Also, she stated that these procedures would help the City get an understanding for the opinion help by the citizens of Shorewood on the deer management issue. • Set up some type of deer hot line to allow citizens to express the views on this issue • Investigate the deer-auto collision rate within the City of Shorewood Once these steps were taken and the City Council came to the determination that indeed the City of Shorewood appears to have a legitimate concern regarding the deer population, an aerial count would be needed before any steps could be taken. In order to undertake any deer management projects, it would be required that the aerial count shows that the City has at least 15-25 deer per square mile. • Kathy stated that the MN DNR currently has no available funding for any aerial counts . for this funding year. However, staff was informed that there are several options available to get the City added to the program for the upcoming year. Daniel Ehrke will be in contact with Kathy to determine what steps the City can undertake to insure funding for an aerial count. Furthermore, Kathy added that if the City took a deer management approach, depending on the extent method chosen, the City Council might need to amend Chapter 703 of the City Code. This chapter, listed as Attachment B, refers to the hunting and trapping of animals within the City of Shorewood. Initial Actions Based on Recommendations by Kathy Don Carlos Following discussion with Kathy Don Carlos, the City informed citizen's in the March Newsletter that the City was accepting comments and concerns in regards to the deer population. Comments were taken via email and through the City's Shoreline. Based on this request, the staff received seventeen responses. Approximately ten of those responses stated that they had noticed an increase in the population and the amounts of damage being created by the herd. Likewise, some of these ten respondents also stated that they were in favor of some type of deer management control. The remaining comments stated that they did not believe that the City of Shorewood had a deer population problem These responses are listed as Attachments C. Staff also contacted the Department of Natural Resources and the Police Departments of . Shorewood and Excelsior to find out if auto-deer collision rates are recorded for the area. Staff was informed that each individual department would keep these records, however, both cities could not access the information that was being sought. This was due to the fact that the auto accidents involving deer are not denoted as so when the report is filed. Recommendations It is staff s recommendation that the Land Conservation & Environmental Committee continue to research this topic in order to come up with a list of steps home owners can follow to try to deter the deer from damaging their property. Likewise, staff believes that the City should continue the hot line for citizens in order to allow them the opportunity to express their views on this issue. However, it has been expressed by some of the LCEC members that they would like to see a link be created on the city's web page to insure that the City receives more input on this issue. m4f Office: 612-474-5222 Fax: 612-474-3514 Assn. , Inc. Attachment A • P. O. BOX 360 EXCELSIOR, MINNESOTA 55331 December 13, 1999 City of Shorewood Attn: James Hurm, Administrator 5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, MN 55331 Gentlemen: Ref: Deer Problem on Golf Course We are approaching a crisis relative to the existence of the Minnetonka Country Club in the future.. Our Golf Course Superintendent has informed me that the yearly increase in damage to our greens over the past few years, by a herd of now 10-11 deer, has reached a point where he no longer can maintain the normal playability of the greens which will adversely affect the retention of our golf members. It is an industry truism that a private golf course could have beautiful fairways, but if the greens are not up to industry standards the course will fail with the land converted to other uses. The deer damage the greens throughout the year by walking/running/stomping over them with their sharp hooves slicing the turf and indenting the surface, making it impossible to putt properly. We spend $8,000.00 each year to purchase flowers, etc., to improve the appearance of the golf course and surrounding areas. The deer consume a large portion of the flowers, which we have contended with, and is not a basis for our problem. The disappearance of flowers does not affect our operation. Minnetonka Country Club was established in 1916, with the present management in place since 1954. We are a commercial operation and the deer problem is critically affecting us. The City of Maple Plain, among others, has permitted programs to correct deer problems. We respectfully request the City of Shorewood to initiate whatever action is necessary to eliminate the problem. Minnetonka Country Club will, of course, be happy to assist in any manner possible. Sincerely, Minnetonka Country C1 b-Assn., Inc. B. Witrak, President • Attachment B 703.01 CHAPTER 703 • HUNTING AND TRAPPING ANIMALS SECTION: 703.01: Purpose 703.02: Definitions 703.03: Prohibited Acts 703.04: Exemptions From Provisions 703.05: Violation 703.01: F URPOSE: It is the purpose of this Chapter to preclude the poten- tial harm that may be inflicted upon people, particularly children, and to prevent the maiming, unselective catching and destruction of wild animals and birds and domestic animals that come in contact with traps. • 703.02: DEFINITIONS: As used in this Chapter, the following terms shall have the following meanings: (Ord. 100, 7-10-78) Subd. 1. FIREARM or WEAPON: Any gun, rifle, pistol, handgun, air-rifle, shotgun, airgun, BB gun, whether compressed air or spring-loaded, sling- shot or bow and arrow. Subd. 2. HUNT or HUNTING: The pursuing, stalking, chasing, driving or track- ing of birds or animals while in possession of a firearm or weapon. (Ord. 155, 1-9-84) Subd. 3. TRAP: Any mechanical device or snare which seeks to hold, capture or kill an animal. Subd. 4. TRAPPING: The setting or laying or other use of a trap, anywhere in the City. (Ord. 100, 7-10-78) 703.03: PROHIBITED ACTS: The following are hereby prohibited: Subd. 1. Trapping or hunting anywhere in the City. (Ord. 155, 1-9-84) 703.03 703.05 Subd. 2. The sale of any trap within the City by any person or by any wholesale • or rental establishment. 703.04: EXEMPTIONS FROM PROVISIONS: The provisions of this Chapter shall not apply to: Subd. 1. The sale or use of any trap specifically designed to kill rats, mice, gophers or moles. Subd. 2. The sale or use of cage-type live traps employed for the control of nuisance animals as long as such traps are tended each twelve (12) hours. 703.05: VIOLATION: Any person who violates any of the provisions of this Chapter shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor. (Ord. 100, 7-10-78) • W310-7 _30 ~ Page 1 of 2 Attachment C Jean Panchyshyn • From: <GCCH1 @aol.com> To: <cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 8:10 AM Subject: Deer Concerns I am writing in response to the newsletter request for citizen concerns over the deer population. We have lived at 19750 Waterford in Shorewood since our home was built in 1988. The deer population in our area and the subsequent marauding on our property has increased dramatically over that time. Our property is just under 1/2 acre. When we first moved in I had a horticulturist walk the property with me to identify ways we could preserve our land to keep it as naturalized as possible. (He said we had an unbelievable number of mature plants on the "wild" portion of our lot that had been thriving for generations - the way he put it was "planted by God"). Over the years this portion of our property has become very sparse in both undergrowth and mature plants due to the deer feeding. I have noted as • many as 14 deer at one time grazing on our lot - honestly! Obviously the overpopulation of deer is destroying the natural areas. And, of course, they are the curse of the perennial garden - I hesitate to even "go there". Over the past 3 years, I have tried every deer deterrent I could find - including cayote urine! I have consulted every expert I could contact, and spent on average of $200 per year on products to discourage the deer. I did find a product that works, but it must be applied every few days throughout the growing season. (I missed an application last summer and the deer in one night ate all the buds off 42 lilly plants!) I have begun to remove from my gardens the plants that deer like best - which is quite sad for me after tending these plants for a decade. We hear and see the deer almost every night. They are very bold about their presence. They graze within 3 feet of our back door! I can't take a walk in our neighborhood without noticing that other property owners are experiencing the same devastation. In my profession as a Realtor, I hear • often, from residents of all parts of Shorewood, that the deer are an ever-growing 4/3/00 Page 2 of 2 - problem. I am so happy to hear that the City is addressing this concern. Not only is it a destruction to the beauty of Shorewood, it can't be good for the deer to be so overpopulated, either. If there is anything I, as a citizen, can do, please let me know. Thank you so much for any action to remedy this serious situation. Christine Halvorson 19750 Waterford Place Daytime Phone: 952-470-2593 i 4/3/00 3/14/00 • RE: DEER POPULATION Message From: Victoria Fleischhacker lives at the Seasons off of Old Excelsior Blvd. (5255 Spring Circle) 952-470-1392 I have had considerable damage the last couple of seasons to the extent to where they have totally destroyed my foundation plantings and it is a situation that I can't afford. And in spite of the fact that I sprayed numerous times throughout the season with the so-called deer repellent which didn't seem to stop the deer from eating the foliage around my foundation. Yes, I would appreciate a call back with some information. I'd like to know what can be done to eliminate this. I live on the edge of kind of a low spot and it's an ideal place for the deer to travel. But I can't afford to have destruction like this either. Please do call me. My phone number is 952-470-1392. On top of the fact that I did run into a deer on vine hill road just a block from my house to the tune of $2000 damage to my car which happened to be fairly new at the time. So, yes I have a concern. Thank you. • • Page 1 of 1 7 `CEC 3 ray Twila Grout • From: Jeffery V. Bailey <old bail@winternet. com> To: City of Shorewood <cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2000 9:05 PM Subject: Deer Population My name is Jeff Bailey and I and my family live at 19660 Sweetwater Curve in Shorewood. I am responding to the article in the most recent city newsletter that solicts comments on deer population concerns. I live on the east end of Silver Lake and signs of deer activity and damage are common in our yard. The damage is mostly to small shrubs and some young trees. Hostas and dogwoods don't seem to stand much of a chance. For what it is worth, I would love to see the deer population reduced in my part of town. (Of course, I would also love to see the geese population reduced from its current ridiculous levels, but that wasn't the issue on which you were soliciting comments. If I had to choose between the two, I would actually rather handle the geese problem before the deer problem.) • • 3/6/00 ~ LC EC 3-1 3/9/00 • RE: Deer Population Jay Venaro (sp?) 5985 Seamans Drive The problem with the deer has increased steadily for the last 15 years to the point where they are visiting daily and nightly. We are basically required to spray just about every day throughout the growing season to keep the deer out of our gardens. They've been inside a fenced area. They are pretty urbanized. We've seen as many as 7 at a time. Our son nearly hit one on Seamans Drive last fall. There's one that was hit on Eureka Road last fall. There was one hit over by Cty. Road 19 and Tonka Bay just last summer. There's usually deer droppings in the fall, its a little harder to see in the summer when the lawn is still growing, but they've taken vegetable crops, they've went inside of a fenced area to take a vegetable crop last summer. We do have that fence complete at this point now to keep them out. There's a lot of ornamental damages; it's pretty hard to affix a number to it. Granted we are a nursery and we do raise things for profit, but even in the period of time before we were doing that, I had a 8' high electric fence around the garden area that we were raising vegetables. When we first moved out here in 1973 this was not a problem. It seems to be affected by Carver Park once it was up and running, and more recently by the Hennepin Park. This problem has seemed to get dramatically worse the last 3-4 years. • If you have any questions about the information or any other questions that might come up, we're at 474-8550. 3-1~- -Tz) 3/9/00 RE: DEEP POPULATION Bill Wintheiser 3`d Avenue and Christmas Lake Road (850 3`d Avenue) I was reading your newsletter and you were talking about the deer population. There's definitely a deer problem over here. I've got a couple of deer that wander into my yard and they eat everything. And I love to garden and they just literally devastate my flower gardens, my vegetable garden and they'll eat everything and anything at anytime. They started showing up about 4 or 5 years ago. Previous to that I never saw any around here. Occasionally maybe one or two. But rarely. But they are here now and they are here to stay. And I can't seem to get rid of them. They pretty much live in back between the apartment buildings, and Bob Nords and Bruce Benses back in there, there's some wooded area they are moving into back in there. I thought of just about everything to do, other than putting up like a 6' high electric fence around my property to keep they out of here. Essentially, you can't have any kind of garden whatsoever. I don't think the problem is going to go away. I think the problem will only get worse as the urban sprawl continues. What I would recommend doing is holding a public forum on that, maybe even making a referendum. I have some ideas that I could share with how to control this problem. One of them that you may look at is perhaps a limited bow hunting season in Shorewood. What I mean by limited is with a lot of restrictions put on them. Somehow you gotta thin the deer out because like I said it's gonna end up with a situation like Minnetonka and you've got to nip it in the bud. The other thing to take a look at is some kind of feed that will sterilize the deer. The other thing too you're gonna have happen is you'll see is that a lot of the deer being killed on Hwy 7 I've seen a lot of road kill out there going on Hwy. 7. If you want to contact me, 474-3547. 7 L_ cr-c ,-t4/ OT VOICE MAIL 3/9/00 • Pete Welsted (sp) in Amsbury I want to respond to your deer survey. We don't see enough deer around here. All our friends we've talked with say they'd much rather see more deer. There's less deer this year then there have been in the past years. Thank you for letting us comment. • • • ~ Page 1 of 1 3-1q-0t Twila Grout • From: Patrick Wilder <pcwilder@email.msn.com> To: <cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:04 PM Subject: deer population In reading my copy of the shoreport tonight I noticed an article entitled "deer population concerns among some residents". I recommend that the city council kindly inform these residents that most of us that live in Shorewood do so because of the wilderness and beauty of the area. Unfortunately, it is we that are invading the wildlife and not the other way around. I moved from Minnetonka to Shorewood in 1993. My neighbor, who has lived here much longer than I, informed me that 20 or so years ago there were no deer in our area. It is due to our expansion into the western suburbs that has created a major shortage of space for our wildlife. Hence, deer, fox, raccoons and other wildlife are often found in our backyards. I have seen several deer in my area and have lost hosta's and other plants. But you know what. It is my choice to live here and I believe that we can easily live in harmony. There are many deer repellent products available on the market as well as plants that are avoided by the deer. My recommendation to those residents that are complaining about the deer is to avoid having bird feeders or other food which can easily be reached by deer, use deer repellent products or wire on hostas and other plants and flowers and enjoy the beauty of the • wildlife rather that complaining to city officials. Or, on the other had they can always move to Minneapolis as there are not many deer there. • 3/9/00 r LC EC 3 -l q Message RE: Deer Population • 3/7/oo Hi, this is a homeowner from the Shorewood area responding to your invitation that homeowners register their views on the subject of the deer population. I'm definitely against any efforts to attempt to control the deer herd in the Excelsior/Shorewood area. As far as I'm concerned it does not represent a burden to me, my property, or anyone else around me. And yet I find from experience that a few of the usual whiners and complainers end up determining the interests of everyone else if I fail to speak or if a lot of others fail to speak. It does seem as if this operates by some sort of informal publicize, so that the number of people calling in determine the outcome and I don't want to see that happen. As far as I am concerned the deer are just fine. If people don't like the area they are free to move away. As far as I can tell the only real issue here has to do with the deer occasionally doing what deer like to do, eat plants. They certainly don't represent a burden or danger to the safety of anyone. There are a couple of deer in this area that I think are really quite spectacular. Anyway, that is certainly my opinion. I don't particularly care to hear back, but I'd like to have the matter go forwarded in a way that makes sense representing the majority of the people in the area. Thank you very much. • • -'7 LC E C 3 'J ~f - Message from Mr. Lounsbury, Birch Bluff • RE: Deer Population 3/7/00 I don't think it's really a problem at all. It doesn't occur that often, just isolated cases and I don't think we have a problem where we have to start shooting the deer. So that's my message. • • Message from Audrea Singles lives on Muirfield Circle • RE: Deer Population 3/7/99 We have had deer eating bushes and flowers and shrubs and damaging trees since we moved here. And what concerns me most is the deer droppings. And my children can't walk barefoot in the yard. There's just piles of it and I'm concerned about tick lime disease with the tick being around all these deer droppings. Anyway they've asked if we have any complaints and that's mine. We've tried numerous non-poisonous things to try to detract them, but nothing seems to work for very long. My number is 470-0478. • a . LG eG 3-1q-0 3/6/00 VOICE MAIL • FROM: Joan Morrow 5580 Old Market Road RE: Deer Population We have a number of deer in our back yard periodically; we don't have a major damage problem. Every once in a while they eat some hostas. But the thing I will tell you is that I feel extremely strongly that there should be NO management efforts of the deer in terms of killing them, trapping them, shooting them, or poisoning them. They are beautiful creatures; they were here before we were. And, as I say, they are not a problem. They appear not to be a problem to themselves in terms of over population. I would appreciate knowing what your plans are. My office number is 449-6669. • • • L C C C 3-/ y --Ot 3/6/00 VOICE MAIL FROM: Susan Har u 5985 Mill Street RE: In response to Shorewood City News Deer Population We want to make a comment about the deer population. We do have a problem. There are 8 deer that are regularly in our back, yard, in our front yard, in our side yard, that eat our hostas, trees, everything, plus drive our dog nuts. We have a neighbor 3 doors down the street on Hillendale that feeds them; he has a salt lick and troft and so they are drawn through a little swamp area that's in our back. We have an acre lot on the corner of Mill and Hillendale, and they are a problem. A couple weeks ago we had one that was hit in front of the house with a car, and then a truck, and made a horrible mess that clogged up traffic for a hour. • LCEC 3/6/00 VOICE MAIL FROM: Cliff Brandhorst 27225 Smithtown Road RE: Newletter Comments on Deer Population Concerns I have a big concern with the deer population. There are lots of them and they are wrecking a lot of trees and plantings in the area, and I'm hoping that somehow you can find a way to control them. Thank you. • • --7 LCOC 3/6/00 VOICE MAIL • FROM: Chris Bayer 5345 Shady Hill Circle RE: Deer Population Concern My property backs up to the large wetland parcel that stretches between Shady Hill neighborhood and Vine Hill Road, between the Shady Oak neighborhood and Waterford. And, to the north of us, we have a pond on undeveloped city property. To the south of us we've got the wetland parcel so our yard is like a highway for the deer. We have counted as many as 13 deer at a time using the area. and we have a huge amount of property damage. About 7-8 years ago, we planted 65 seedlings in our field and to date and we have about 7-8 left. So they have munched away every year. I haven't been out to survey the damage this year, but I'm sure there is more damage. We think we have too many deer, there are too many alive and too many dead on the roads as well. That's my opinion, if you have any questions you can call me at 470-5321. • Page 1 of 1 Twila Grout • From: <JDVMCVARV@aol.com> To: <cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us> Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2000 8:51 AM Subject: Deer Problems We think the deer are getting totally out of control. We live on Sweetwater Curve and get deer through our yard every day. I've seen as many as sixteen in our yard at one time. While I try to keep up with expensive sprays, etc. they still manage to eat the hostas and other plants right down to the ground. They also eat hundreds of day lilly buds just before they bloom. They are not timid either. They walk all around the house - even right up to the front door. We think this is a real problem. Dan & Marilyn Vandermark 474-7672. • • 3/6/00 7LcoC 3-2y-,, 3/23/00 • RE: Deer Population Yea, Bill Wintheiser calling again. I called about week ago and gave you some of my thoughts on your deer problem. I mentioned the fact that I had seen a couple of deer in my backyard and they had been chewing on my flowers. Well last Sunday, I thought there was only a couple of them, last Sunday, I had 8 deer standing in my yard and 4 of them looked like fawns or newborns, so now there is a bigger deer problem in my back yard than I thought. Apparently this population seems to be growing. Again my property is 850 3rd Avenue, by the intersection of Christmas Lake Road and 3rd 1 Avenue. • Page 1 of 1 C = L C' C 3/ZY/~ Twila Grout From: Jack Spindler <spindler@goldengate.net> To: <cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 1:06 PM Subject: Deer Population Gentlemen: I recently received a bulletin from your office and on it was a question about the deer population in Shorewood. Approximately three years ago, my wife and I moved to Amesbury and one of the things that impressed us was the wildlife of the area. We particularly enjoyed the deer in all their beauty walking through the area. For some reason, which I do not understand, the herd has been reduced to a point where they are now seldom seen. I would gladly sacrifice the few hostas, which I originally did, to have the deer return to the area. That would be a small price to pay. Sincerely, Jack and Charlene Spindler 4905 Regents Walk Shorewood, MN 55331 • 3/20/00