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PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 2007 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Davis
Young
Hensley
Norman
Trent
Alegi
Quinlan
B. Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of October 9, 2007 — (Att-#2A)
• 3. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting
B. Report on Arctic Fever Meeting
C. Update on Music in the Park — (Att. -#3C)
D. Report on Skate Park Camp of October 18 and 19 — (Att. - #3D)
4. PARK DEDICATION FEES — (Planning Director Brad Nielsen)
5. REVIEW AND DETERMINE SUMMER DATES FOR 3" LAIR SKATE
BOARDING CAMP - (Att.45)
6. DETERMINE LIAISON FOR NOVEMBER 26 CITY COUNCIL MEETING
7. ADJOURN
• CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 9, 2007 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Davis called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Davis; Commissioners Young,
Director Brown; and late arrival City
Absent: Commissioners Alegi and
B. Review Agenda
Item l OB, New Business, was added
• Trent moved, Norman seconded,
2. APPROVAL -
A. Park Com n Me
Norman
2007, m4
3.
IMPORTS
A. k on City
Public Works
I evised. Motion passed 510.
5/0.
her 5, 2007
the Minutes of the September 5,
of October 8, 2007
Brown reported I�at the City Council debated whether to host the Appreciation Event
typically held in December: It was determined that the appreciation party would continue
and be held on December 14, 2007. In addition, the Council worked on Enterprise
Budgets, which included the City's two liquor operations currently for sale. Brown
mentioned that the Amlee and Manitou Road construction project public hearing would
be held next month, although easements are not forthcoming and the project will likely
stagnate.
B. Report on Arctic Fever Meeting of September 26, 2007
Chair Davis stated that, while Tonka Bay had not scheduled activities for the event, they
do wish to participate in Arctic Fever next year. Davis noted that, at the previous meeting,
the group discussed funding, passports, and finalized its vendor participants. She
acknowledged the City Council's $3000 commitment to the seed fund and mentioned that
Minutes
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representatives would be attending the upcoming Park Foundation meeting to request
funding on the 17 In addition, Chair Davis pointed out that it is their intent to finalize
all participants and a schedule as soon as possible so that support materials, in store
displays, and magazine /newsletter deadlines can be met to sufficiently promote the event.
Norman added that the planning phase is in a good place and that over the next 1 -2
months they will be solidifying the details.
Quinlan questioned when the deadlines for corporate sponsorship would occur.
Chair Davis noted that it is their intent to have everything c Thanksgiving so
that the support documents and displays can be set up in sto om ver the holiday.
City Council liaison Turgeon arrived at 7:15 p.m.
4. REPORT FROM MCE ON
MCE's Meg Low, Coordinator of Children's Servlq- ,
Recreation Manager, gave a brief paper power point pia
Rec program at Freeman Park. In ess e, MCE was qi
reception and Freeman Park facilities summer
and expanded summer series next year. igh
the program length which ran Tuesdays Th
80 children, 40 boys /40 gals, 66% of whic a age
residents.
Chair Davis asked if
met
;tine Best, Wuth and
i recap of the Summer
-1d with the public
frward to an ongoing
9" rec program included,
e 19- August 16; hosted
85% were Shorewood
their expectations.
d a minimum of 15 youth and were surprised by the
56' much so that they had to place a cap on the enrollment.
)rogra:-filled a niche within the community. MCE
;wood for the partnership and acknowledged Park Secretary
port. Best stated that they hosted 2 T -Ball teams of 16
during the day and hoped to expand that program as well
Chair Davis thankedlf8est and Low for coming, mentioning that this is a program the
Commission has wanted to institute for a long time. She encouraged MCE to consider
expanding the program to Manor Park next season.
Trent commended MCE for its efforts and asked if they had the ability or desire to expand
the program size or if there was anything else the City could do to support them.
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Best stated that 40 kids is a good number and they would not wish to increase that; •
however, they would consider adding additional days and potentially other parks to the
mix. She commented that it was convenient for staff to be able to leave their equipment at
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Freeman station over night and pull it out each morning. She mentioned that it might be
nice if there were a faucet and hose outside for their water activities.
Brown noted that this is not the first time a faucet or hose has been brought up as a
request at Eddy Station, acknowledging that there might be a real need to install a hose
bib near the drinking fountain for this group, as well as the garden club.
Chair Davis thanked the MCE representatives for coming and suggested that the
Commission hold a work session in February to look at summer programming with MCE,
the 3` Lair, and Music in the Park.
Norman stated that this is a program similar to one he
at how this has exceeded expectations.
5. COMMUNITY REC. RESOURCES
Kristi Anderson, CRR representative, gave a
quarterly report acknowledging that both `everytt.
instance, while the ongoing facility use continues
representatives continually change
light of new relationships formed
varying
ch as M
Anderson noted that the spring sports
much communication allfeasand do(
others, due in part to
time bringing the
little interruption. Ant
key to maintaining and
increase irv,66i tht
1 within
up and was pleased
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the first and second
i4g stays the wine' . For
the organizations and their
of attention, especially in
afheld last March and after
some more timely than
themselves. After spending
res up to sped on the process, the season ran with
that ongoing�s�stematic communication will be the
ood experience. She acknowledged an
' org sports users, but also the numbers of
se of the parks for a one time use or event.
As always, monitoring continues toPbe a valuable piece of CRR's responsibility, as the
public enjoyseeing the Ci=take an interest in park use and ask for their input.
Monitoring was critical, especially in light of the fact that Badger was put on rest in
preparation for rts new lighting and field improvements this summer, which displaced
Lacrosse at Manor Park again this year. Anderson stated that on several occasions while
monitoring both Manor and Freeman individuals complimented the City on its facilities.
While there were no tournaments scheduled at Freeman Park this year, Anderson noted
that it is apparent that park usage is expanding and with this continued demand it-is
critical that the City continue its efforts to sustain, maintain and improve the overall
quality of its park system.
Anderson thanked the Commission for its ongoing support and complimented them on
their initiatives to provide a good experience to all users.
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Brown interjected, commending CRR for their efforts, pointing out that in their humble
estimation they did not adequately relay to the Commission how much ongoing
communication it takes to educate new sports organization representatives and deal with
the scheduling and collection process; saving significant amounts of staff time. He shared
with new Commissioners the amount of time needed behind the scenes to accomplish
what CRR does day by day. He maintained that CRR does an incredible job for the City
and their efforts are appreciated by all.
Turgeon echoed the sentiments, stating that before contracting the park coordinator
services to CRR, staff was bombarded by special interest and park scheduling, as well as
document and fee collection, which ate up a great deal of their tithe
Quinlan asked if there was a link on line under parks to reeve* annual schedule.
Anderson stated that, to her knowledge, there is a 1' ach season's chedule, though
not an annual schedule for the entire year on the site. She acknowle' that many of c
the newer Commissioner's are probably not hat C does as park �o'�nator.
She relayed that CRR hold sports information me ear at which time the
season schedules are distributed to the sports organi s. Prior to the meeting, the
sports organization representatives provide CRR with a request form delineating
what it is they are looking for and CRR �ea forms, a wi the Park Priority
Policy, an equation created by the Comrissio several years , to determine schedule
use.
Brown pointed out th s an integral in communicating or balancing out the
field use.
Trent asked how the fiel er the users are good about maintaining
the fields fin
An tated that as thT lity use agreement, each organization agrees to
leave th s as they 'Vow mr the most part the fields are left in good
condition. of the us what is expected of them at the outset of the season.
Brown concurre Iat on occasion some additional trash is left after an event, but
that is where his l orks staff comes into play, coming out early the next morning to
clean up. He not they have never had to assign punitive damages, except for one
tournament many years ago, and that is why it is great to have CRR on hand to let people
know on the front end what is expected of them before anything occurs.
Turgeon asked whether Anderson had heard any impacts the City might feel from the
construction of the new fields at Minnetonka and the user implications of that.
Anderson stated that, according to several conversations that she had been a part of, the •
new fields will mostly accommodate the more mature youth player; whereas, a majority
of those who use Shorewood fields are the younger ball players. She noted that more
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organization might take advantage of this availability in the long run, as this year more
`random' users requested field time than ever before.
Brown stated that there appears to be a wider degree of users than ever before, which is a
testament of how well the system is working.
Norman asked how the City could work with MCE to accommodate more space for them
if the Commission chooses to do so.
Anderson stated that this will largely be up to the Commission
Park Priority Policy is currently set up so that sports organizati
followed by school districts, churches, perhaps MCE etc. If ,
setting up a full blown summer program with MCE, that
Commission wishes to reconsider, as of now Freeman is okf
evenings, unless MCE chooses to expand their daytirnelor,e 1,
are few options.''
Brown stated that he hears the need to bring I
familiarize Commissioners with its contents.
Chair Davis suggested this be reviewe a;_' work
Anderson encouraged the Commission to
spring meeting itself takes Place shortly t:
Fu ?
suggesting they review this In l cember.
6. SKATE
icv for reviRv and to
to February, as the
this sentiment
CK, EVAL ;, ' ION, DEMOGRAPHICS
Norman f as a success, offering an activity for a broad range of ages this
provid very app a level f commitment by the City. He pointed out that P Lair
is a : ring in mob i uipment to'fit varying age brackets.
Chair Davi ` d that she rays sees children at the Skate Park taking advantage of its
size and locati _
7. DISCUSS AlWrIC FEVER SPONSORSHIP EFFORTS
Chair Davis asked if anyone had any sponsorship updates they wished to share.
Quinlan stated that he had information in several folk's hands and would be following up
with the Data Doctors and Tino's Pizza.
• Norman stated that he had used the passports to offer as a tool to several businesses,
though not all business' can benefit from them. He indicated he would send an email out
to Alegi and Hensley to check in on their progress and encourage them to move forward.
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8. REVIEW VENDORS AGREEMENT FOR ARCTIC FEVER
Chair Davis stated that she would like to hear Hensley's comment with regard to the
agreement before proceeding. She stated that many of the small scale vendors might be
intimidated by the insurance requirement.
Brown stated that he would be checking into the City applying for a blanket policy for the
event to cover those who do not have sufficient insurance themselves.
9. REVIEW SURVEY RESULTS FOR CATHCART P
According to the handful of surveys returned, Brown stated
playgrounds and tennis courts are key subjects to look
Chair Davis suggested that the City contact the
of maintaining or redoing the tennis courts or p
Turgeon questioned the viability of moving
solely on 6 surveys out of 66.
Brown acknowledged that the
their other parks.
Quinlan suggested the C'
fill out at any time an
While Turgeon liked %tocti
looking at, they need
Young, that
of Chsen rel
around it ....
it is apparent that
>en to help cover the costs
a much befilfttioof returned surveys at
into an on%q.s irvey fSW iat people can go online and
that this is something the City is
1% 1d be a good idea to schedule a meeting with the City
" s this park and the partnership the 2 cities have
Brown stated that he and Chair Davis would be seeing representatives of Chanhassen at
the Dog Park the end of the month and could try to discuss the idea of getting together
with them at that time.;.-
10. DETERMINE LIAISON FOR OCTOBER 22 CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Quinlan will be liaison on October 22"
B. NEW BUSINESS
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Chair Davis stated that Carver Parks and Chanhassen would be hosting a get together at •
the Dog Park on October 3 1 St at 2:30pm to view the progress. She noted that the park
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• system would likely be looking to collect the money earmarked by the City for the project
at that time.
Saturday, October 13 from l Oam —12pm, there will be a Gideon Glen dedication
ceremony. Although the watershed is responsible for ongoing maintenance, Brown noted
that the site is in need of additional maintenance help.
Chair Davis asked how badly the graffiti problem was this year.
Brown stated that there has not been as much graffiti in the parks this year as in years
past, and instead vandals are graffitiing public and street signs.
11. ADJOURN
Young moved, Norman seconded, adjourning t Commission Meeting of
October 9, 2007, at 8:13p.m. Motion passed 5
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
Recorder
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SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road • Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 •952- 474 -3236
Fax: 952- 474 -0128 • www.d.shorewood.mmus • cityhall @ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout — Park Secret
Date: November 5, 2007
Re: Update on Music in the Park
I contacted Big Walter Smith & the Groove Merchant Band and they will be playing on Friday, July 11
from 6:30 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. The amount that they have requested for the performance is $1,000 (this is the
same fee as last year). I have sent them their Entertainment Agreement form to fill out and return.
I have contacted Famous Dave's and they also agreed to work the event again.
• It should be another fun event! !!
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SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road • Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 •952- 474 -3236
Fax: 952- 474 -0128 • www.ci.shorewood.mn.us • cityha11 @ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout — Park Secretary °
Date: November 8, 2007
Re: Skate Boarding Camp October 18 and 19
3 Lair held a skateboarding camp on October 18 and 19 at the South Shore Community Park. There were a
total of 19 kids that participated in the camp. The first day there were 17 kids that attended. The second day 6
kids attended. The ages ranged from 4 I /2 to 11. The kids were from Shorewood, Excelsior, Chanhassen,
Tonka Bay and Victoria.
• Because of rain the first day of camp was held at Manor Park shelter. The second day the weather cooperated
and they were able to skate at the park.
The city received their deposit back of $100 and $202.40 from registration fees.
3 Lair has sent information for their summer program which will be reviewed under agenda item 5.
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SHOREWOOD
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 -8927 • (952) 474 -3236
FAX (952) 474 -0126 • www.ci.shorewood.mmus • cityha1I@ci.shorewood.mn.us
MEMORANDUM
TO: Park Commission, Planning Commission, Mayor and City Council
FROM: Brad Nielsen
DATE: 9 November 2007
RE: Park Dedication Fees — Proposed Update
FILE NO. 405(Subdivision Code)
As provided by Minnesota Statutes, Shorewood collects park dedication fees at the time land is
• subdivided for development. The current fee of $2000 per residential lot was established in 2002
and has not been adjusted in five years. The City Council has directed staff to propose an
updated fee to be included in the City's Municipal Fee Schedule.
Minnesota Statutes (462.358) recognize that the development of land creates .a need for certain
public facilities (e.g. roads, sewers, storm sewers, drainage facilities, etc.). Parks, trails and open
space are specifically referenced as legitimate extractions in the development approval process.
Park dedication can be required in two ways: 1)the City can require that a certain amount of land
be set aside in development projects for use as future parks; or 2)the City can require fees in lieu
of land. The City may also require some combination of land and fees. Shorewood's policy for
the last several years has been to require cash in lieu of land.
In order for a city to require park dedication through development, the statutes require that the
City have a Comprehensive Plan (which Shorewood has) and a capital improvements budget for
parks (which Shorewood also has). The law also requires dedication to be reasonable and that
there be an "essential nexus" between the dedication and the municipal purpose to be achieved.
Finally, the statutes only allow park dedication fees to be used for the acquisition of land or the
development of park property. Maintenance and operations must be funded in other ways.
After reviewing the current statutes, the first thing staff did in formulating a recommendation was
to see what other cities are charging relative to park dedication. We started with a survey
prepared by the Association of Metro Municipalities (AMM) that was last updated in April of
10 this year. We added several Lake Minnetonka communities that did not participate in the survey,
as well as certain cities with relatively contemporary development regulations that we routinely
review. The fees charged by cities are as much "all over the map" as the cities themselves.
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Memorandum
Re: Park Dedication Fees
9 November 2007
Much has happened over the past five years to affect the amount cities charge relative to park
dedication. Fees range from as low as $1000 per residential unit in more established /developed
communities such as Crystal and Hopkins (Excelsior charges $1500) to as much as $25,000 per
lot in Minnetriesta. The amount charged by various cities appears to correlate with the extent of
development. Older, more established communities have acquired all the land they intend to and,
for the most part, have developed their park systems. Growing communities charge more,
reflecting the increased costs of land and construction and projected future demands on the park
system. Land values, despite the recent real estate slump, have increased dramatically (I can't
wait for a future grandchild to ask me some day — "Grandpa Brad, why didn't you buy property
back in '07 when land was so cheap ? "). Our current fee amounts to one percent of the value of a
$200,000 lot. No doubt, cities' budgets have increasingly tightened in recent years, leaving them
to find ways to fund needed projects through, for example, the land development process, where
allowed.
Shorewood is considered somewhere in between. While the City is approximately 95 percent
developed, its park system still has needs. These are well reflected in a memorandum to the Park
Commission from Public Works Director Larry Brown, dated 1 March 2007, which lists out
projects that have been discussed by the Commission over the past several years. The cost of
projects such as hockey rink lighting and new tennis courts at Badger Field and Cathcart Park,
and the wetland restoration/improvement project at Freeman Park well outstrip the amount of •
money currently being budgeted from the general fund ($10,000 annually).
Whereas, past park improvements have been largely funded through land development, the
number and size of subdivisions has dwindled to just a few per year. Most of these come as
minor subdivisions — splitting large parcels of land into 1 -3 lots. Every now and then, and
difficult to predict, a developer may assemble several parcels of land and redevelop them into
more lots (e.g. the Parkview subdivision on Suburban Drive). Based on past performance,
Shorewood has been projecting four new lots per year. Under the current fee schedule, this
amounts to only $8000 in park dedication revenue annually.
It is not reasonable to think that the relatively few new lots that will be created over the next
several years should pay for all of the planned or desired park improvements. It is suggested that
the Park Commission recommend something in the range of $4000 to $6000 as the updated park
dedication fee. While this is a relatively drastic percentage increase from the current fee, it
represents only 2 -3 percent of a $200,000 lot, and is well under the middle of the range of what
cities are charging. The new fee would result in a projected revenue of $16,000 to $24,000 per
year.
Staff will be at the Park Commission on Tuesday night to go over this information.
Cc: Craig Dawson
Lang Brown
Twila Grout
Tim Keane
Bonnie Burton
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SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road • Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 •952- 474 -3236
Fax: 952- 474 -0128 • www.ci.shorewood.mmus • cityhall @ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout — Park Secretary"
Date: November 8, 2007
Re: Skateboarding Camp
3` Lair has sent information on the skateboarding camp for the upcoming summer. The participation fee is the
same as last summer $160 for the week (5 days) and it is split on an 80 — 20 basis again (80% 3` Lair, 20% to
the City). The camp would be from 9:00 a.m. to Noon each day. There is a $300 deposit.
The dates that 3` Lair has for the camp are listed below:
June 9 -13
June 16 -20
June 23 -27
July 7 -11
July 14 -18
July 21 -25
July 28 -Aug 1
Aug 4 -8
After review and discussion, if the Park Commission would like to host the camp again, please advise staff
which week you would like. It may be a good idea to pick a couple dates in case the first choice is booked.
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