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PARK COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, APRIL 23, 2002 7:00 P.M.
• AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Young
Callies
Bartlett
Arnst
Meyer
Palesch
B. Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Minutes of April 9, 2002(Att. -#2A Draft Summary)
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meetings of April 15 (Council member)
• 5. REVIEW BUSINESS PLAN FOR EDDY STATION — (Att.- #5)(Larry Brown, Public
Works Director)
6. REVIEW DRAWING FOR FIELD 2 — 3 RD BASE DUGOUT — (Att. -#6)
7. NEW BUSINESS Council Liaison:
April: Arnst
8. ADJOURNMENT May: Meyer
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• CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 2002
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Arnst called the meeting to order at 7:04 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Arnst; Commissioners Young, Callies, Meyer, and Palesch; Engineer Brown;
Planning Director Nielsen; City Council Liaison Lizee
Absent: Commissioner Bartlett
B. Review Agenda
Palesch moved, Meyer seconded, approving the agenda as presented. Motion passed 510.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Minutes of March 12, 2002
• Palesch moved, Callies seconded, approving the Park Commission Meeting Minutes of March 12,
2002 as submitted. Motion passed 5/0.
B. Park Commission Informational Meeting With Sports Organizations Minutes of
March 20, 2002
Callies moved, Palesch seconded, approving the Park Commission Informational Meeting Minutes
of March 20, 2002, as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
C. Park Commission Work Session Minutes of March 26, 2002
Meyer moved, Young seconded, the Park Commission Work Session Minutes of March 26, 2002, as
submitted. Motion passed 510.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meetings of March 25 and April 8
• Liaison Lizee stated that while she had nothing pertinent to share from the March 25, 2002, meeting, she did
have several items to report from the April 8, 2002, meeting.
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REGULAR PARK COMMISSION MEETING
April 9, 2002
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Prior to the regular City Council Meeting on the 8th, representatives from the Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek
Watershed District gave a presentation, as did representatives from the Hennepin County Assessors Office.
Lizee reported that a Public Hearing on wards took place during the regular meeting and will be continued
for discussion at the next City Council Meeting in order to gain more public comment.
Lizee continued that the underground of power lines at the County Road 19 intersection was discussed.
Engineer Brown added that the approval process is moving forward as phase one of a landscape concept
design will be worked up by Brauer and Associates, Inc.
B. Review Written Opinion by Planning Director for Dugout at Freeman Field 2
Planning Director Nielsen gave a report on the status of Ball Field Improvements at Freeman Park, outlining
the work that South Tonka Baseball (STBB) is authorized to perform. A list of nine items were identified as
STBB responsibilities, with an additional list of 4 items that the City will commit to.
With regard to the South Tonka Baseball responsibilities, Nielsen noted that items 1,4, 5, and 6 were merely
maintenance matters. In reference to item 2, Nielsen agreed that the installation of plastic safety tubing along
the top rail of the outfield fences was a good improvement. However, STBB will be required to install an
acceptable color, green or blue.
Nielsen reported that the temporary scorers booth, Item 7, had been removed and STBB will contact the Park
Commission in the future if they wish to begin the process to reinstate any such structure.
Item 9, Nielsen explained with visual aids, addresses the need to extend the steel poles on the third base side •
of Field 2 between the backstops and batting cage and installation of netting to contain foul balls. Palesch
and Meyer agreed this would be a needed improvement.
Young moved, Palesch seconded, approving the extension of steel poles on the third base side of Field 2
between the backstop and batting cage with the installation of netting to contain foul balls. Motion
passed 510.
C. Report on City Council Action Regarding South Tonka Little League Requests for
Improvements
Nielsen informed the Commission that the City Council had held off on item 8, the installation of taller steel
poles along the third base side of Field 2 to support awnings, until a Public Hearing scheduled for May 7,
2002 would take place.
Nielsen shared the history of the dugout issues for Field 2 with the Commission. Presently, he stated that
STBB would like to stretch awnings over the dugouts to protect players from the sun. These awnings would
be of a seasonal or temporary nature, which appealed to the Planning Commission. The awnings would be
put up in the spring and taken down in the fall, unlike the metal roofed ones installed last year. Nielsen
stated that they would be much like a boat canopy, dark green in nature, and unlikely to weather well if left
up year round. Meyer asked if he had seen them. Nielsen stated that he had not, but could envision them. He
added that the Commission had originally approved the concept of the awnings but he asked for their
feedback nonetheless this evening. •
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• Meyer inquired whether such structures had been denied previously. Brown indicated that a permanent
structure with a metal roof and back were denied, whereas this structure would be of a temporary nature
without a backside. Chair Arnst was concerned that by approving this temporary structure the City might be
opening the door to problems, temporary or not, the property line issue remains. Brown asked if STBB had
formally applied for this application or if any plans had been submitted at this time to judge. Nielsen stated
that nothing had been submitted, however, the Public Hearing is scheduled and plans will need to be in hand
prior to that date. Brown maintained that he was hesitant to have the Park Commission make a
recommendation without a drawing. Palesch concurred, stating that STBB put up a structure without proper
approval in the past and asked what would stop them from doing so again. Chair Arnst noted that history
dictates caution in this instance and asked to view drawings before making any further recommendations.
Nielsen promised to provide drawings to the Commission of its next meeting on April 23, 2002.
5. HIGHWAY 7 RIGHT OF WAY PROPERTY
Nielsen provided background on the Highway 7 right of way property located near the water tower by the old
wayside, north of St. Johns Cemetery. Currently, St. Johns Baptist Church is working on completing a
master plan for their cemetery and would like to change their point of entry. Nielsen pointed out that the most
desirable location would be the right of way property owned by MnDOT.
Nielsen stated that if the City could acquire this property from MnDOT, who has no purpose for it, this piece
could potentially be traded for some of the wooded natural land at the southern end of the cemetery. Since
the only prerequisite from MnDOT is to provide public service of the parcel, a passive use wetland area
. would be ideal. Nielsen pointed out that the Planning Commission liked the idea so much that they
recommended a comp plan amendment to favor this trade. The LCEC, whose charge is to acquire land for
conservation, were also fond of the concept.
Nielsen stated that Turgeon, of the City Council, believed it was imperative to get input from the Park
Commission, in view that the concept will likely fall under their jurisdiction in the future. Nielsen asked for
the Commission's thoughts. Palesch inquired over the terrain and commented that she liked the idea.
Primarily a wetland, Nielsen added that the church is receptive to adding some passive walking trails. Young
asked what the Church hoped to get from the deal. Nielsen stated that they would not only change their point
of entry, but the grades of the subject property would be much more amenable to the cemetery than the
current woodland area, which would require much site alteration. Young asked how big a parcel they are
referring to. Nielsen pointed out that the property is approximately 2 acres.
Young questioned where the proposal was at currently. Nielsen stated at the May 7, 2002 meeting, the City
will be looking at the land use and conservation open space options. When asked whether MnDOT had been
approached about the transfer of ownership, Nielsen replied that they had not been contacted yet but he
expected the entire process to take up to six months or more. Brown inquired over the placement of future
wells at the site. Nielsen stated that the City would retain enough area near the water tower to allow for one
at a later date.
Chair Arnst asked what Nielsen needed from the Park Commission. Nielsen reiterated that he was looking for
their feedback of whether they view this proposal as a reasonable use of land. Callies supported the idea,
however thought the subject property currently acts as a good buffer, and wondered what expansion of the
cemetery at this location would mean to the area. Nielsen pointed out that the unique character of the whole
• site would be changed more so if St. John's develops the southern wooded end. While no specific plans were
available for consideration, Chair Amst urged Nielsen to keep the use to a minimum, suggesting perhaps a
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April 9, 2002
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passive wooded trail.
Chair Amst informed Nielsen that this is the first time she had heard of the possibility of adding open space
to the Park Commission's jurisdiction after the LCEC disbands. She encouraged Nielsen to schedule a joint
meeting between the Commissions and Council to begin a dialogue to discuss the matter.
6. DISCUSS NEXT STEP FOR PARK MANAGEMENT PLANS FOR 2003
Chair Amst asked the Commission what they believed the next step for the Park Management Process to be.
Brown reminded the Commission that at the last meeting he had presented a memo identifying alternatives to
MCES. As it stands, Brown felt it unlikely that the services would be provided in- house, and believed that
contracting out would maximize staff resources and minimize costs.
Brown pointed out that the City currently knows a number of people who might be interested in providing
services. He felt it best to sit down with those individuals first to determine the responsibilities and costs.
By identifying the costs, focusing on how the operation will be managed, and how best to market the service,
an RFP can be created. Chair Arnst inquired what the recommended first step would be. Brown stated that a
letter of interest, containing an executive summary proposal to go over with staff, followed by a meeting to
discuss outlines of each one's expectations would be the proper sequence.
As a recommending body, Chair Arnst asked when the process could begin. Brown stated that if it were the
Commission's desire for staff to define the final product and accept letters of interest they would be free to •
do so at this point. Chair Arnst indicated that a list of 18 issues was provided to staff after the joint meeting
of December 11, 2002, and would go far in assisting staff as they specify the position.
Young asked what sort of hours an independent person would commit to and why it would be less costly than
hiring some one in- house. Brown explained that it would be easier and less costly to find someone to work
from home, available to work the flexible hours that scheduling will require, at a negotiated fee, and for a
contracted timeframe.
Meyer proposed the Commission direct staff to seek out input and develop the position. There was a
consensus among the commissioners to move this forward before the budget process begins.
7. STATUS UPDATE ON FREEMAN PARK PARKING LOT
Brown reported that staff has spent approximately six months working with MCWD regarding the
construction of the Freeman Park parking lot due to the state closure of the highway 7 access. As a trade -off,
the state set a deadline for the City to receive $50,000 to aid them in the closure and construction of the lot.
As that sunset date for the money is fast approaching, staff is hopeful that plans and specs will be finalized
Thursday. A public open house will take place April 29, 2002, from 5:00 - 7:30 P.M. for public comment.
Brown stated that staff is moving quickly to take advantage of these dollars, which will help solve some of
the parking and drainage issues. A contract needs to be in place by July 1, 2002.
Young asked if the City was able to accommodate the MCWD. Brown affirmed that they were and stated
that in the future the Commission maybe hearing about the possibility of open water ponding along the
walking trails at Freeman.
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April 9, 2002
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8. SET DATE FOR PARK TOURS
Park Tours will take place on June 8, 2002, at 8:30 A.M. beginning at the first park chosen for the day, with
the exception of Freeman Park. The Freeman Park park tour is scheduled for June 11, 2002, as part of the
Regular Park Commission meeting.
9. DISCUSS WORK SESSION FOR APRIL 23 MEETING
Brown reported that Mark Koegler would be presenting the master plan review for Freeman Park on April
23, 2002. Brown stated that Koegler is familiar with the process and encouraged the commissioners to voice
their opinions freely.
10. DETERMINE PARK LIAISON FOR MAY
Meyer will cover the May 13th and 28th City Council Meetings. Chair Arnst will attend the April 23rd
meeting.
11. NEW BUSINESS
Lizee invited the Commissioners to join students of Minnewashta School for their first annual Earth Day
Walk -in on April 23, 2002. The public will be meeting at Manitou Park at 7:00 A.M., walking along the
trail to Freeman Park. At 7:30 A.M. they will leave Freeman Park to walk down Strawberry Lane, with
police escort, to the school.
Saturday, April 27, 2002, a planning seminar and Land Use Workshop presented by John Shardlow will
be held at the Southshore Center.
Brown reported that the public open house held regarding Smithtown Road was well attended. The
comment period will continue for approximately three weeks, at which time, a joint work session will be
scheduled.
12. ADJOURNMENT
Palesch moved, Callies seconded, adjourning the Regular Park Commission Meeting of April 9,
2002, at 8:42 P.M. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
RECORDING SECRETARY
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PROPOS
April 23, 2002
Prepared by:
Twila Grout, Parks Secretary
• Larry Brown, Director of Public W
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The Depot
at
Eddy Station
Location
Eddy Station is located within Freeman Park within the City of Shorewood, Minnesota (refer to
Exhibit A). Specifically, the park is located near the northwest quadrant of Eureka Road and State
Trunk Highway 7.
Facilities and Amenities
Freeman Park is one of the premier parks within the Lake Minnetonka Area of communities. Users
of the park originate within the City of Shorewood, in addition to the Cities of Chanhassen,
Deephaven, Excelsior, and Tonka Bay.
Freeman Park facility is a 55 -acre facility that incorporates open areas, walking trails and a family
picnic area. More intensified uses of the park include the following facilities:
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2 Little League field
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1 Babe Ruth field
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3 Adult Softball fields
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2 Soccer fields
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2 Volleyball Courts
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I Tot -lot with climbing equipment
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1 Open Picnic pavilion
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0.9 miles of walking trails
In the Fall of 2001, the City of Shorewood completed the Eddy Station Project. This project
includes a covered picnic area, main activity room, secured storage area, and restrooms. The floor
plan for this is shown in Exhibit 2.
As part of the planning of this facility, a concession sales operation is to be conducted to help
support the capital outlay for the project, and to further support the City's Park Fund. Staff has
reviewed such an operation and have offered a general financial analysis for such a venture.
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Freeman Park Location Map
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FLOOR PLAN
r=DDY STATION
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Christening of the Facility
• Well no facility can be complete without a catchy name. Thus far, the name that has been dubbed
to the business is "The Depot." This name matches the character of the old train station that once
stood not to far away from this building.
Demographics
Currently, organized sports events are the most intense users of the Freeman Park facility during the
months of May through September. Recently, the Park Commission has been charged with
managing and monitoring the uses of the park.
To assist the City with this task, Mr. Mark Koegler of Hoisington Koegler Group, Inc. completed a
parking analysis for Freeman Park. This report analyzed the current parking configuration, versus
the demand of the fields. This report is a valuable tool in confirming the use that is present at
Freeman Park. At various times throughout this proposal, this analysis may be referred to for
reference information.
Staff analyzed returned to Mr. Koegler's report to review the anticipated demand that has been
utilized for the Freeman Park Parking Analysis. In turn, rosters from the previous years usage at
Freeman Park were analyzed to generate the number of users that are expected within Freeman Park
during the spring, summer and fall seasons.
• The pages beyond the exhibits document in detail the numbers that can be expected, due to the
organized sports activities. Staff feels that these numbers are very conservative, as they do not
account for special tournaments that typically occur in the fall of the year, the passive users of the
park, and activities that might come up that the City feels is advantageous to open The Depot for.
While these numbers are a conservative estimate, they are only that. The best estimates that we
have available at this time.
Based upon the information generated, the City of Shorewood serves approximately 138,021 users
of Freeman Park each "non- winter" season. Background analyses for how these numbers were
arrived at have been included following the calendar totals of users.
Finances:
City Staff met with vendors to review products, and pricing information. Suppliers are every
helpful in providing information to get these types of businesses up and running. Certainly, it is in
their best interest to see the business become a success.
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Staff looked at the various costs for the facility. There are four costs involved, as outlined below:
9 Initial Startup Costs
Items identified for initial startup, are initial one time costs are as follows
Popcorn popper
$
750.00
Nacho Cheese Dispenser
$
200.00
Refrigerator /cooler
$
750.00
Stainless Steel Food Racks
$
450.00
Cash Register
$
350.00
Drop Safe
$
250.00
Total $ 2750.00
Labor Costs & Profits
The last exhibit is a breakdown of labor costs. This analysis indicates that the labor costs for the
season equal $ 29, 869.72
Vendors have stated that the average consumer will spend $3.00 - $4.00 per trip to the concession
stand. Staff researched this and felt that that the $1.50 per trip, average appeared more reasonable.
If it is assumed that 35 percent of the users are "trapped" by a sale, this equates to
0.35 x 138,021 x $ 2.00 per trip= $96,614.40 per year sales
Assume the percent of profit on sales is approximately 40 percent of sales
Gross profit = 0.40 x 96,614.40 = $ 38,645.76
Discounting Initial startup costs, provides a net profit of:
$38,645.76 - $ 29,869.72 = $8,776.04 per year.
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Users per the Calendar
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Tonka United Soccer
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Days of Use
17
22
25
26
15
25
25
Users per Day
780
414
414
414
780
95
95
Subtotal per month
1
1 9,108
1 10,350
10,764
1
2,375
2,375
Little L/ AdultBB/ Girls SB
Apr
May
Jun
Jul
Aug
Sep
Oct
Days of Use
17
34
29
30
15
25
6
Users per Day
780
780
780
780
780
179
179
Subtotal per month
1 13,2601
26,520
22,620
1 23,400
1 11,700
L4,475
1
Total Users /month 13,260 1 35,628 32,970 1 34,164 11,700 6,850 3,449
Grand Total Per Year 138,021
Assumptions: 23 percent attendance TUSA in Fall League vs. Summer League attendance
TUSA scheduled Monday through Saturdays
Adult Softball /Babe Ruth /Little League scheduled 7 days per week
Adult Softball /Babe Ruth /Little League mid Aug through 1st week -Oct
• 23 percent attendance Adult S.B. Babe Ruth /Little League in Fall League
vs. Summer League attendance
Assume no games on holidays
Projections do not account for special tournaments
Demographics for The Depot at Eddy Station
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Fields Scheduled 6:00 PM to 7:30 PM
Field No
Players per Team
Teams
Total Players
1
12
2
24
2
12
2
24
3
12
2
24
4
12
2
24
5
12
2
24
6
12
2
24
Referees and Coaches
18
Observers
144
Subtotal
306
Fields Scheduled 7:30 PM to 9:00 PM
Field No
Players per Team
Teams
Total Players
1
12
2
24
2
12
2
24
Referees and Coaches
6
Observers
54
Subtotal
108
Grand Total TUSA per night: 414
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Assumptions: I coach per team
1 referee /umpire per game
1 observer (average) per each player)
EVENT: TONKA UNITED SOCCER
Facilities used: Tonka United Soccer schedules 4 fields for use between the hours of 6:00 PM to 7:3C
In addition, 2 fields are scheduled between 7:30 PM to 9:00 PM
Days of use are Monday through Saturday
Season: April through August
Number of People Using the Facility
Demographics for Eddy Station Rest Stop
0 EVENT: LITTLE LEAGUE /ADULT SOFTBALL /GIRLS SOFTBALL
Facilities used: These two activities are combined since together they have scheduled the entire
field use 7 nights a week. Fields are scheduled 5:00 - 6:30 PM and 6:30 - 9:00 PM.
Days of use are Monday through Saturday
Season: May through July
Number of People Using the Facility
Fields Scheduled 6:00 PM to 7:30 PM
Field No
Players per Team
Teams
Total Players
1
15
2
30
2
15
2
30
3
15
2
30
4
16
2
32
5
16
2
32
6
16
2
32
Referees and Coaches
18
Observers
186
Subtotal
390
Fields Scheduled 7:30 PM to 9:00 PM
Field No
Players per Team
Teams
Total Players
1
15
2
30
2
15
2
30
3
15
2
30
4
16
2
32
5
16
2
32
6
16
2
32
Referees and Coaches
18
Observers
186
Subtotal
390
L and Total Little League /Adult SB /Girls SB per nig 780
• Assumptions: I coach per team
I referee /umpire per game
1 observer (average) per each player
Labor Costs for the City of Shorewood
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Number of days of operation - 156
Park Secretary: Twila Grout
Hours/
Season
Loaded
Rate
Amount
Tasks
Administer advertising, process job applications and notifications
40
Make primary contacts to product vendors and administer accounts
20
Accounting and comparison to inventory
96
Order Product
40
Time sheets and scheduling
25
Routine administration
20
Subtotal
241
$ 22.12
$ 5,330.92
Public Works Employee: Charlie Davis
Hours/
Season
Loaded
Rate
Amount
Tasks
Manage inventory (average 1.5 hours per day)
234
Manage Facility, refuse, etc. (average 1 hour per day)
156
Subtotal
i 390
$ 25.12
$ 9,796.80
Lead Concession Worker
Hours/
Season
Loaded
Rate
Amount
Tasks
Lead worker responsible for daily operations and accountability for cash
Handles notification of problems or emergencies
Subtotal
Concession Sales
$ 10.00
Subtotal
702
$ 11.00
1 $ 7,722.00
Concession Worker
Hours/
Season
Loaded
Rate
Amount
Tasks
Concession Sales
Subtotal
702
$ 10.00
1 $ 7,020.00
IlTotal Labor Costs $29,869.72 II
Assumptions: 1 Lead Concession employee per shift
2 lead Concession employees per season
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6 Concession employees
Shift 4:30 - 9:00 PM
2 employees per shift. One lead