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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION WORK SESSION COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, MARCH 26, 2002 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Palesch_
Arnst
Puzak
Meyer
Bartlett
Callies
Young
B. Review Agenda
2. DISCUSS PROCESS FOR DEVELOPING PARK MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR
2003
3. DISCUSS APRIL 23 WORK SESSION
Council Liaison:
April. Meyer
May: Puzak
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CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 -8927 • (952) 474 -3236
FAX (952) 474 -0128 • www.ci.shorewood.mn.us • cityhaI1@ci.shorewood.mn.us
TO: Park Commission
FROM: Pat Arnst
RE: Park Management issues from December 11 joint meeting.
DATE: December 29, 2001
As a result of the December 11 meeting with City Council, the following park management issues
were defined by the group. Following, for discussion purposes, is a listing of those items. The
order of listing does not indicate any priority. No consensus was reached on their relative
importance or resolution:
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Parking/traffic
Police enforcement of "no parking"
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Unauthorized alterations to and construction of facilities
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Exclusion of individual users and/or organizations
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Blanket scheduling of fields and coordination of activities
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Unclear relationship with MCES
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Liability issues caused by improper use of green space for playing fields
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sack of park management
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Uncertainty about who uses the fields
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Poor direct communications between City and organized users
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Uncertainty of exactly who "we" or "ourselves" are when referring to the City
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Breakdown in communication between MCES /City /Organizations
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Perceived "ownership" of field space by certain organizations
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Should Shorewood work in partnership with other cities to resolve its park issues?
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Regaining control and balance of the park management
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A balanced approach between the problem and management resolution
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Management of $200,000+ annual budget, rink attendants, tournaments, and concessions,
in addition to scheduling and oversight
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Staff time involved in oversight of collection of rosters, insurance certificates and user fees
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Enforcement of park rules and policies when developed: who does it?
The group did agree that further action should be taken on the following items, and results
discussed at the January 8 Park Commission meeting:
Uncertainty about MCES continuing it's service to city—Dawson to contact MCES and
confirm status
No clearly defined policies d� rapQrts , uganizations who use the parks —Brown to
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develop a draft for Park Commission review, discussion and recommendation at 1 -8 -02
FIELDS 2002 5.00 p.m. until dark
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FIELDS
Clear Springs 1
MONDAY
ETLL
TUESDAY
ETLL
WEDNESDAY
ETLL
THURSDAY
ETLL
FRIDAY
ETLL
SATURDAY
ETLL
SUNDAY
Clear Springs 2
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
Deephaven 1
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
Deephaven 2
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
DEC Pit (3:15 -5:00 p.m.)
Girls LaCrosse
Girls LaCrosse
Girls LaCrosse
Girls LaCrosse
Girls LaCrosse
DEC Pit
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Excelsior 1
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
Excelsior 2
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
Groveland1
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
Groveland 2
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MHS 1(Baseball)
LEGION
LEGOIN
LEGION
LEGION
LEGION
LEGION
LEGION
MHS 2 (Softball)
MHS 3 (Baseball)
MGSA
LEGION
TONKA REC
LEGOIN
MGSA
LEGION
TONKA REC
LEGION
MGSA
LEGION
MGSA
LEGION
LEGION
MHS 4 (Softball)
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MHS Upper Fields
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
MHS Upper Fields tin 5:00
LaCrosse
LaCrosse
LaCrosse
LaCrosse
LaCrosse
MHS Upper Fields 5:00 -7:00 p.m.
Ultimate Frisbee
Ultimate Frisbee
Ultimate Frisbee
Ultimate Frisbee
Ultimate Frisbee
Minnewashta Baseball 1
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
Minnewashta Baseball 2
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
Minnewashta Soccer
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Minnewashta Softball
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MME
BR
BR
BR
BR
BR
BR
BR
MME 2 (infield)
BR
BR
BR
BR
BR
BR
BR
MME
MME4
MMES
MME Football (5 -6:30 p.m.)
MGSA
HMR
HMR
Rugby
MGSA
HMR
HMR
Rugby
MGSA
HMR
HMR
Rugby
MGSA
HMR
HMR
Rugby
MGSA
HMR
HMR
TU
MGSA
HMR
HMR
TU
MGSA
HMR
HMR
TU
MME Football (6:30 tits dark)
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
MME Open Space
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
MMW 1
MGSA
STLL
MGSA
STLL
STLL
MGSA
STLL
MMW Soccer
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Scenic Heights 1
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
Scenic Heights 2
Cathcart
ETLL
ISTLL
ETLL
STLL
ETLL
ISTLL
ETLL
ISTLL
ETLL
ISTLL
ETLL
JSTLL
ISTLL
03/20/2002
FIELD USE 2002 5.00 p.m. until dark
FIELDS
MONDAY
TUESDAY
WEDNESDAY
THURSDAY
FRIDAY
SATURDAY
SUNDAY
Cottagewood
ETLL
MGSA
ETLL
MGSA
ETLL
ETLL
Excelsior Commons
SSSA
STLL
SSSA
SSSA
STLL
STLL
Freeman #1
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
Freeman #2
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
Freeman #3
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
Freeman #4
SSSA
&TL+ SSSA
MGSA
SSSA
MGSA
MGSA
Freeman #5
SSSA
STLL
STLL
SSSA
STLL
STLL
STLL
Freeman #6
SSSA
&TLf SSSA
MGSA
SSSA
MGSA
MGSA
Freeman Soccer
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Hockey Rinks
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Manitou Park East
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
MGSA
Manitou Park West
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
STLL
Manitou Soccer
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Manor Park
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
Thorpe #1
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
Thorpe #2
Neighborhood
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
ETLL
Thorpe Open Field
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
TU
Red Signifies a change from 2001
CONTACTS:
East Tonka Little League(ETLL), Legion, Babe Ruth (BR)
Mark Ridge -1525 Vine Ridge
Rd, Shorewood, MN.
55331
Hopkins /Minnetonka Rec(HMR)
Ron Schwartz - 14600 Minnetonka Blvd., Minnetonka, MN. 55345
South Tonka Little League(STLL)
Ron Sepiol - 600 Virginia Shores Circle, Excelsior, MN. 55331
Minnetonka Girls Softball Assoc (MGSA) Therese Douglas - 3980 Vandan Road, Minnetonka, MN. 55345
Tonka United Soccer I Kay Turner - 18326 Minnetonka Boulevard, Deephaven, MN. 55391
South Shore Softball Assoc (SSSA) Gordy Lindstrom - 23680 Mc Lain Road, Shorewood, MN.
Boys LaCrosse
Minnetonka High School Activities Department
Girls LaCrosse
Minnetonka Community Education and Services
Ultimate Frisbee
Minnetonka High School Activities Department
Rugby
Minnetonka Community Education and Services
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Jeffery V. Bailey
19660 Sweetwater Curve
Shorewood, MN 55331
• (952) 474 -3827
December 8, 2001
Pat Arnst
Chair, Shorewood Park Commission
5480 Teal Circle
Shorewood, MN 55331
Dear Pat:
I am writing on behalf of the Minnetonka Girls Softball Association (MGSA). We are a
volunteer, non - profit organization funded solely by fees from our member participants.
Our mission is to provide the opportunity for girls to learn the sport of softball and
engage in a fun, healthy, and competitive environment, while developing good
sportsmanship skills. We offer a variety of slowpitch and fastpitch softball programs to
girls ranging in age from five to eighteen years old. The MGSA's primary service area is
the Minnetonka School District. (Note that we serve girls attending both public and
private schools.) Between 500 and 600 girls participate in our programs annually.
Over the years, the bulk of our operation has been conducted at Bennett Park, on
Highway 101 just south of Minnetonka Boulevard. We recognize, however, that for our
. programs to grow and prosper, we need to attain greater exposure on the west end of our
service area. We believe that Freeman Park has the potential to help us achieve that
enhanced exposure. Our challenge, however, is gaining access to the Freeman Park
softball fields. As you are well aware, Minnetonka Community Education Services
(MCES) is under contract with the City of Shorewood to schedule field use at Freeman
Park. We recognize that satisfying the needs of many different sports organizations is a
complicated task. Nevertheless, it is our contention that MCES does not offer a "level
playing field" to the users of Freeman Park.
We believe that the MCES approach to field allocation is fundamentally flawed.
Specifically, the MCES approach is neither fair, open, nor efficient..
• In terms of fairness, current field assignments are based solely on past assignments.
No comprehensive annual assessment of changing needs and priorities takes place.
Individual requests for changes invariably meet with a negative response. Newcomers
are effectively shut out.
• In terms of openness, MCES conducts its decision - making behind closed doors.
Despite repeated pledges to the contrary, in recent years the MCES has failed to bring
together representatives of the users of the Freeman (and other area) softball fields to
discuss scheduling needs. MCES does not make available a formal description of its
field allocation procedures.
• In terms of efficiency, MCES delays announcing field assignments each year. This
creates uncertainty and makes it difficult for MGSA to certify field availability to the
• various leagues in which we participate, thus hampering our ability to schedule games
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at Freeman. Further, MCES seems unable (or unwilling) to fine -tune its field
allocations. Organizations appear to "own" certain nights, as opposed to sharing
access on those nights.
Consider our dilemma. MGSA has been assigned two fields at Freeman Park on •
Wednesday night for several years now. Presumably, we "own" those two fields on
Wednesday. That day, as it turns out, is a poor night for MGSA. One of our biggest
problems is finding fields for our traveling slowpitch and fastpitch teams, who play teams
from other communities. Due to the leagues that our traveling teams play in, the majority
of our field needs are on Tuesday and Thursday nights. MCES has repeatedly said that it
can give us no Freeman fields on those nights. Why? The MCES response is that other
organizations have been assigned those nights in the past. Could we meet jointly with
those other groups to see if some accommodation could be arrived at? The MCES
response has been that such a meeting will be scheduled in January, which then gets
pushed back to later in the winter, and then never happens. Or if the meeting does take
place, the other softball field users who are absent still get their historically allocated
nights. Is it possible that we might get even one field on Tuesday or Thursday? The
MCES response is that is not how things have been done in the past. Can we get final
confirmation this year of the night that we are assigned? The MCES response is that such
a confirmation will be forthcoming soon, and "soon" typically turns into late February or
early March. We don't mean to demonize MCES. They perform many valuable services
for the community. It simply appears that they don't do a very good job of allocating
space at Freeman Park.
We can hardly claim to be blameless in this matter. Despite Wednesday night being a low
demand night by MGSA teams, we need to be more aggressive at maximizing use of the
Freeman fields on whatever weekday night(s) we are assigned. We have also been i
assigned fields on Friday night, Saturday, and Sunday. That is a bit like being paid in
Confederate currency, as those are very low demand periods. Nevertheless, we need to
find a way to make greater use of the Freeman fields during those times. Further, in the
past we have been all too willing to acquiesce to MCES hidebound practices. We need to
be more proactive and insist on a more progressive approach.
We are requesting the City of Shorewood to help us in bringing more fairness, openness,
and efficiency to the allocation of Freeman fields. We are not asking for preferential
treatment. It may be that, after all is said and done; the current field allocations will
represent the only practical solution. While we don't believe that will be the case, all that
we really want in the end is equal access to a public resource so that we can provide a
valuable service to the girls and young women of our community.
Sincerely,
Jeff Bailey
Vice President
Minnetonka Girls Softball Association