061300 PK AgPCITY
OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, JUNE 13, 2000 7:30 P.M. OR IMMEDIATELY
FOLLOWING THE SKATE PARK
TOURS
AGENDA
1.
CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Lynch $ix
Puzak
Themig
Arnst
Dallman
Youn
Berndt
B. Review Agenda
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of May 23, 2000 (Att. #2A Draft
Summary)
3.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4.
REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting of June 12, 2000
B. Report on Land Conservation Environment Committee Activities
C. Multi - Purpose Bid Update
D. Vine Hill Road/Covington Road Trail Report
5.
DISCUSS SKATE PARK SITE VISITS (Att. #5)
A. Discussion of Design Issues and Recommending to Proceed to City Council
With Improved Design for Highway 7 Old Wayside Rest Site
6.
DECIDE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION IN LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD
DEDICATION
7.
DISCUSS PARKING COMPLAINT AT FREEMAN PARK (Att. #7)
A. Consider Sign Change or Other Options
8.
SET SCHEDULE FOR METING WITH SPORTS ORGANIZATIONS
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9.
NEW BUSINESS Council Liaison:
June: Puzak
10.
ADJOURNMENT July: Bix
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
• PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, MAY 23, 2000
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
8:00 P.M.
MINUTES
U ig i t
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Arnst called the meeting to order at 8:00 P.M. (This followed the annual tours of old Highway r
Rest Area, Manor Park, Silverwood Park and Badger Park.)
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Arnst; Vice -chair Themig; Commissioners Dallman, Bix and Young; Director of
Public Works Larry Brown, Council Liaison Zerby and Acting City Administrator
Nielsen.
Absent: Commissioners Berndt and Puzak
B. Review Agenda
Themig moved, Dallman seconded to approve the agenda. Motion passed 510.
• 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of May 9, 2000
Themig moved, Dallman seconded to approve the minutes as submitted. Motion passed 510.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting of May 22, 2000
Council member Zerby reported that City Council approved the bid for the Vine Hill Road/Covington
Road trail. Construction is anticipated to start in July. Residents will be notified.
Council has received a letter from a resident regarding the Skate Park stating their opinion that the rest
area is a poor choice.
Larry Brown reported that Freeman Park Multi - Purpose is out for bid and the bids will be opened on
June 7 h .
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B. Report on Park Foundation Meeting of May 18, 2000
Commissioner Dallman reported that there were about 6 Park Foundation members in attendance. They
went over the brochure and talked about starting a fundraising policy. They did not talk about a buy -a-
brick program. This will be on the next agenda.
There was discussion among the Foundation members regarding the user fees for the sports
organizations. Commissioner Dallman explained to them that the Park Commission would be meeting
with each of the sports organizations regarding the user fees later this summer.
Commissioner Arnst asked if the Foundation has received any contributions as a result of mailing the
brochures. Commissioner Dallman reported that he did not know, as the Foundation Treasurer did not
attend the meeting. Commissioner Dallman will also find out who is checking the P.O. box and phone
messages.
Dallman stated that brochures were handed out to baseball and softball representatives for them to
distribute to their players. Acting Administrator Nielsen suggested that giving some of the brochures to
the Rotary and Chamber might help. Commissioner Themig mentioned that the next Park Foundation
meeting could include discussion about identifying some events they could attend to solicit donations.
The field dedication would be a good one to attend. It was decided to put a discussion of community
events on the June 13' Park Commission.
C. Response to Adopt -A -Brick Program
This will be on the next Park Foundation agenda.
5. REVIEW "TO DO" ITEMS FROM PARK TOURS •
During the tour of the parks, the following items were found to be in need of attention:
Manor Park
• Repair gully at end of black top.
• Playground sign needs to be painted.
Silverwood Park
• Remove tree stump by big slide.
• Paint white line on the backboard at tennis court.
• Check on the sign for the green pole at the entrance of the trail.
• Put the post back up at the entrance of the trail.
Badger
• Paint the trim around the door of the warming house and the plywood on the cage.
• Electrical connector on the light pole is loose (furthest from the fire hydrant).
• Litter on the side of the hill.
• Bush needs to be removed (next to the enclosed cage on the warming house).
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6. REVIEW LETTER TO SMITHTOWN WEST NEIGHBORS
• Commissioner's Arnst and Themig presented a draft letter to go to the Smithtown west neighbors.
Commissioner Themig explained that a response card would be included and would basically be a
comment card asking if the property owner supported a trail. Council member Zerby suggested that the
letter should give a little more history for those residents that are new in the area. The letter and
comment card will only be mailed to the residents on Smithtown Road west of the LRT trail.
Engineer Brown suggested asking the question on the card, "who is interested in a trail." Then it gives a
tool to get a name and address as to who is interested and they can be approached to see if they are
interested in donating their right of way if need be. Also, the letter should explain that the Park
Commission is at a point where there needs to be neighborhood support or the Park Commission will
have to move the trail resources to another neighborhood that is actively supporting the project.
It was decided to change paragraph three, fourth sentence to "At the open house, attendance was low and
several residents spoke in opposition to any trail segment along Smithtown." On the comment card it
will ask if they support a trail segment along Smithtown or no they do not support a trail along
Smithtown. The card will also include name, address, phone number and a comment section. Postage
will be put on the comment card for the residents to mail back.
Acting Administrator Nielsen said that the letter and comment card would have to go to City Council for
their approval.
7. SKATE PARK
0 A. Discuss the "Seasons" visit
Acting Administrator Nielsen explained the new plan of re- routing the traffic, which were concerns
stated at the open house. The plan also shows the trail relocated. Commissioner Themig asked if any of
the parking spaces were handicap accessible. Nielsen said there could be one handicap parking spot with
the other parking spots being 9 feet in width.
Nielsen also explained that the new design is a poor plan in terms of traffic flow and crossing movement.
Engineer Brown commented that there is a tendency to pull into the first entrances available.
Commissioner Themig asked if it could be more of an island instead of a road, which may prevent more
vehicles from going into the Seasons. Acting Administrator Nielsen explained that he is trying to save
the existing trees. Engineer Brown added that an island would be an inconveniencing those who live at
the Seasons. Traffic is one issue that the Seasons residents are concerned with.
B. Update on Tonka Bay
Nielsen explained that he has no update. He tried to get a hold of Councilmember Judd Mowry since he
is the one that made the comment that Tonka Bay is not interested. Nielsen noted that he is not sure if
this is the official position of the Tonka Bay City Council.
Commissioner Bix asked about the rink at Manitou Park. Commissioner Themig explained that the Park
Commission is not sure if there was an actual commitment by Tonka Bay. Judd Mowry stated to
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Commissioner Amst that the Tonka Bay City Council has not formally discussed the site. Council
Member Zerby also explained that Judd Mowry had brought up the expense of asphalt and the storage of •
the equipment. It was thought that the site could be done with minimal changes. Commissioner Bix feels
that the rink would be a better site.
Commissioner Bix asked if there was a summary or report from the Youth Coalition. She added that
being new on the Commission, she hasn't seen or heard a lot of support for a skate park. Commissioner
Amst explained that there were several boys, Commissioner Puzak, Jim Hurm, and a group of people
from the surrounding communities that began meeting about three years ago. She was not sure if the
group has been meeting lately since a site has been found.
Commissioner Bix explained that she is not sold on the site. There is a lack of access. She has seen kids
crossing over the barrier on Highway 7, rather than using the corner to cross.
Commissioner Amst stated that she does not want to bounce this project from one neighborhood to the
next. She supports the Skate Park at that site. Commissioner Arrest said she had concerns about the
Commission revisiting this matter to such an extent and second - guessing the hard work of the Coalition
without Commissioner Puzak present. She challenged anybody to come up with another piece of
blacktop in the 5 cities that was suitable.
Badger Park was one area that was brought up. Commissioner Themig wonder if there is an artificial
float that can be put down. The equipment could be placed each spring and taken down in the fall.
Commissioner Themig explained that he didn't want to go back and forth with this either, but that he
wasn't involved in any of the consideration of sites. He has concerns about the visibility of the current
site. He explained that perception of the Skate Park being at Badger is more visual because there is more
traffic on Country Club and County Road 19, and there is more activity around Badger Park as well.
Commissioner Amst asked why there was a need for visibility. Commissioner Themig explained that
because of the type of activity, he feels there should be visibility. He stated he wasn't sure what would
be going on and that he didn't want to predict it. Commissioner Themig reiterated that the kids that may
cause problems are a very small minority. His main concern is visibility.
Commissioner Young stated that the residence of the Seasons were appalled that the Park Commission
would even think of considering a Skate Park without providing supervision. He thought that the Park
Commission might be getting a letter from one of the residents to this effect. Commissioner Young went
on to explain that the resident recently contacted the City of Chanhassen and they spoke of problems
with destruction of the satellites. As a former teacher Commissioner Young can't imagine the kids well
controlled without supervision. Commissioner Young recommended that the Park Commission
contact Chanhassen.
Commissioner Themig reiterated that the kids that may cause problems are a very small minority. His
main concern is visibility.
Commissioner Amst explained that she has contacted Todd Hoffman from Chanhassen and he feels that
it is the best dollar that they have put into their parks. Todd Hoffman explained that they did have some
problems with litter and vandalism which they have taken steps to resolve.
It was mentioned that the Manitou site is a lot closer to a senior housing residence than the site that is
being looked at now. Commissioner Themig expressed that he would have the same concerns whether
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the Skate Park is at another area or at the rest area. He is not totally convinced that there is not another
• site. Other possibilities were suggested, including the basketball court at Silverwood.
Nielsen explained that the City of Roseville has an ice rink that they paved and painted white. He also
talked to Leah Wyker, who works with parks and recreation in Mound. She stated that set -up and
removal is hard on the equipment and after two years they had to replace some of the equipment. She
also said that the Skate Park has been successful and that they are going to build a permanent facility.
Commissioner Bix expressed concern about accessibility to the Highway 7 site and said the issue of how
the kids will get there hasn't been addressed. Specifically there is the problem of park users cutting
through the Seasons. The problem may only increase with the pathway at the Seasons.
It was suggested that the Park Commission needs to look at another activity area or possibly turning a
tennis court into a skate park. Commissioner Themig said he feels that Shorewood is taking a lot of
responsibility and that the other cities are not participating in helping to provide a skate park.
Engineer Brown stated that he is hearing two things: 1) Go back and start at square one or 2) Find out
through other City Councils if there are paved areas that the Commission is not aware of which could
serve as a skate surface.
Commissioner Young asked about the tennis courts at Manor Park. He walks that route and hasn't seen
the courts being used there. He asked if there was any idea as to how frequently that court (any other
court) was used. Engineer Brown said that if you were to rank the courts Badger is the most used court,
then Cathcart and then Manor. He further went on to explain that Manor has been characterized as a
. quaint little neighborhood park.
Commissioner Bix thought it would be useful to know the demographics of the age group likely to make
use of a skate park. It was suggested that maybe school property, such as Minnewashta School (close to
the LRT), or Excelsior Elementary would be a possibility. Nielsen explained that the further west you
get, the notion for it to be a South Lake facility is not close to any of the other cities. Excelsior parkland
was also suggested. The first place the coalition went to was Studer Park. The Studer family donated the
land to Excelsior and they did not want a skate park there.
Commissioner Themig explained that he doesn't want to undercut all the work that has been done and he
realizes that this is what is happening. He expressed that he felt bad that Commissioner Puzak wasn't
able to attend this meeting to participate in the discussion. At the last meeting it sounded like
Commissioner Puzak was open to explore the best site.
Commissioner Bix stated that she could sympathize with working for three years to try and find a
location and then this comes up. The site has all the criteria but there are these other issues that doesn't
feel right for a skate park. Although size of the Highway 7 site is not a problem, access is still a concern.
There was further discussion on other potential locations and Shorewood's role in providing a
community -wide amenity for youth. Commissioner Arnst explained the background of the Youth
Coalition. She said Commissioner Puzak took the leadership and has a very strong commitment to the
youth.
Commissioner Dallman wondered if representatives from all 5 cities should get together and look at
. other potential sites. He said he feels that Shorewood is taking on Excelsior's problem. Commissioner
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Dallman agreed with Commissioner Bix regarding the danger of kids crossing the highway and jumping
the barrier. He would prefer using a tennis court, hockey rink, or another park location. is
Councilmember Zerby was asked if he had talked to the Council regarding the skate park. He said that
he hasn't talk to any of the Councilmembers but feels if there are a lot of opposition, it is hard to go
against.
Commissioner Themig reiterated his concern at the visibility of the Highway 7 site. He also has
concerns regarding high traffic location, and easy access.
Commissioner Arnst stated the Park Commission needs to wrap this up and figure out what the next step
will be. Nielsen recommended that the Park Commission should take a look at all the master plans for
the parks and review the choices. He suggested they put together the pros and cons of all the sites
Commissioner Bix would like to hear from other cities that have skate parks to obtain more
documentation. It was asked if Nielsen could contact Leah Wycker of Mound or Todd Hoffman of
Chanhassen and meet with one of them before the June 13" Park Commission meeting. The Park
Commission will meet at City Hall at 5:30 p.m. and car pool from there.
Commissioner Arnst asked Nielsen how long it would take to get the park maps. Freeman is remote
from the other South Lake communities, which we are trying to get contributions. It was explained that
Deephaven/Greenwood are supportive of a skate park. It was questioned if Deephaven/Greenwood have
been approached for area? The idea of a skate park originated from Shorewood, kids came to Shorewood
first, and some of the kids live in Shorewood.
Commissioner Themig asked Acting Administrator Nielsen to contact some other communities to see if
they have any reports that could be included in the next Park Commission meeting packet. He suggested
it should be parks that will have the same equipment size. Commissioner Young thought that the parks
would have the same problems, it wouldn't matter about the equipment size. It would be more like
behavioral issues, traffic issues. It was explained that over 3 feet you have to have supervision. And
over 3 feet attracts the older kids, different audience.
S. CONSIDER NAME FOR FREEMAN PARK STRUCTURE
It was expressed that the Park Commission liked Connie's idea on naming the Freeman Park structure
"Eddy Station." They also liked the idea of a display inside the building as to the history of the name.
Dallman made a motion to recommend to City Council to call the Freeman Park structure "Eddy
Station" Young seconded. Approved 510.
The Park Commission thanks Connie for her diligent research and her humor. It is well appreciated.
9. NEW BUSINES
There was no new business.
10. ADJOURNMENT
Themig moved, Bix seconded to adjourn. Motion passed 510. •
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MAY 9, 2000 - PAGE 7
0 The meeting adjourned at 9:48 P.M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Twila Grout
RECORDING SECRETARY
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Tuesday, May 23, 2000
Park Tours
Done
Manor Park
♦ Playground sign needs to be painted
♦ Need to fill corrosion with dirt next to where the plows go down to pond
♦ Fill in the eroded holes on the tar section going down to pond
Wayside Rest Area
♦ The dead shrubs by the St. Albans Bay Circle sign need to be removed
Silverwood Park
♦ Paint white line on the backboard at tennis court
♦ Check on the green pole for sign at the entrance of the trail
♦ Tree stump (left side of big slide) needs to be removed
Badger Park
♦ Paint the trim around the door of warming house and the plywood on the cage
♦ Shrub needs to be removed (next to the enclosed cage on warming house)
♦ Connection is loose on the first light pole (furthest from the fire hydrant)
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To
Pat Amst
Front;
Iiam Maki, Ei
Date:
06/07/00
Re:
Skate -A -Lot
Director
Fax: 474.3993
1. I take great pleasure ir commenting about the Chaska Skate Association (CSA) and the efforts of their young
to establish a skate docility in Chaska. I represent the Jonathan Association, a homeowners association
of 2200 homes and 60 people in Chaska. We maintain a miniber of. recreational areas, including a pair of
tennis courts. We wore approached last year by the Chaska Skate (Association, a group of parents and young
people who wanted to have their own skateboard facility. They asked to use our tennis courts, because the
courts were no longer "ble and they are completely fenoed. This was to be a temporary effort, as they were
working with the City{o£'Chaska to build a permanent facility.
2. The permaneatt facili hs been built and CSA has been raising money to buy certified skate board
equipment for use in aacility. Our tennis court site is ready to be closed. We were bappy to be able to
assist CSA. in their a rl to gain a facility for this sport. During the year of activity, we were continually
Impressed with the d ie Rion and organization of this group. no young people especially were very'good at
making public presen tins, demonstrating the equipment, discussing their quest with various community
groups and soliciting tttd s.
3. During the time that ey used our tennis courts, we had no problems with improper behavior, vandalism or
misuse of equipment. A a matter of fact, the young people pitched in to clean up and repair the courts so
that CSA could use th they self - policed the use of the facility and the behavior of the users. We had
established rules for u it f the teruris courts, such as pre - registration, wearing helmets and displaying an
organization sticker. is spring, we discontinued the registration process, because of the short time It would
be open, and we have d no problems with use of the tennis courts.
4. 7U impressive thing bc� these young people is that they had a smious need for a facility and they
organized themselves o Rio something about it. They weAt to all of the required Park Board, Planning
Commission and CitylCouneil meetings, they went to civic groups for fund raising, they organized car
washes and bratwurst I O"ts and they even made some of their own equipment. While these young people
did not necessarily dr�ss,io please us older folks, they were at all times polite, businesslike and determined.
'They exbibited good - I ehavior on the courts and the older ones helped the younger ones.
S. There are marry needy in1communities for sports and athletic facilities. Baseball, softball, hockey, basketball
and soccer groups ha a III formed to advocate for more facilities. Those who haven't been organized or who
participate in aetiviti that don't get much atieation have been left behind. When the- skateboarders were
having their boards nosested by the police for using public places to practice their sport, and had no place
to go where they eoul legally practice, they organized to do something about it. This is the only time that I
have ever seen a grou of young people organize themselves in order to solve a sports facility problem in a
community. Once elt officials and people in civic organizations met them and saw them in action, the ice of
resistance to their ap ance and their cause melted. That a new facility has been built by the city and
equipment bought by , will be installed soon is due to the effort made by the young people in CSA.
These same needs ex 'tn other communities and the young people who need the facilities are just tike the
young people in our 'munity. The community should give them, every bit of support that it can.
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To: Shorewood Parks Conmainsion
From: Chris Goodmaa, City of Chaska Skate. Pars,
Date: I Jame 5, 2000
t Skate Parr !0peratioas
I received a call from Ms. Pat Arnst inquiring about the Chaska Skate Park and what
types of problems that we may have been having with the kids that use the parks or with
any type of vandalism at or around the parks.
Chaska had Temporary Park open last summer and Permanent Park opens this
summer. We have not had any vandalism,•steali g, crime, complaints. or police calls at
either location. Furthermore, the Huntermark Road Iocation, which is last Years Park is
in a secluded area. The users of the park do not break the City of Chaska curfew and do
not cause problems in tIN.adjacent residential areas.
In closing I would like to try to help the average skateboarders reputation. I will admit,
before I started working on this project that my idea of a skateboarder was much different
than it really is. I thought the typical skateboarder was a kid dressed in bad clothes, with
orange hair, that drank, smoked, swore and slashed car tires. I was so wrong. They are
good kids, both - boys and girls that got good grades, listen to their parents and work bard.
They treat others with respect and enjoy skateboarding. They just need a place to do it.
The kids that play baseball have fields and'the basketball players have a gym. The
skateboarders used a park.
I will be happy to assist your group in any way possible. Please let me know. I can be
reached at (952) 448- 5633x140.
Chris Goodman
City of Chaska
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LOCATED IN THE CHASKA COMMUNITY CENTER s 1661 ?ARK RIDGE DRIVE • CHASM. MN 55318 •
PHOMF.: 952 a FAX: 932 - 448 - 5926 • www.chaSAWI%nx0n;
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collaboration of individuals and organizations which
is attempting to mobilize community resources to
create a more outh friendly environment in the
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ages 11 -15.
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
RESOLUTION NO. 98- p
A RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING A
JOINT SKATEBOARD PARK COMMITTEE
WHEREAS, the Shorewood park Commission has been approached by youth of
the Community requesting assistance to build a skate park in the south lake area; and
WHEREAS, the cities of Crystal, New Hope, Golden Valley, Hopkins, Maple St Grove, Minnetonka, Robbinsdalea h will move from chave
to c typend d by contributing
funds for a supervised skate park w
WHEREAS, the City of Chanhassen en is b scheduled t fall; and unsupervised park
behind their City Hall for skateboardin
WHEREAS, such a facility could ride BMX e requess of
bicycles; and youth regarding a place
to skateboard, in -line skate and potentially
WHEREAS, the south Lake iV nnetonkaeccommunities hae a long history of
working together to jointly address issues on a cost effective
NOW THEREFORE, IT IS HEREBY RESOLVED BY THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SHOBE Cana wo of
requested to appoint a representative ,
other interested south lake cities on to each committee analyze the feasibility of a skate
park and to make recommendations
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the City councils within the south Lake
Minnetonka area and Minnetonka Community
Education and Services (MCES) are hereby
encouraged to appoint a representative to said joint committee.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that Shorewood City Administrator is directed
to coordinate the initial meeting of said joint
� cities and VICES to committee accomplish
organize itself and request staff assistanc e from
their task.
BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED that the said joint committee shall report its
findings and recommendations to the cities and MCES within 90 days of its initial meeting.
ADOPTED by the Shorewood City Council n this I Ith day of May, 1998.
ATT T:
T DA HL BERG, Y0R
JAN S C. HURM, CITY ADNLINISTRATQR
is
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
RESOLUTION NO. 99- 056
A RESOLUTION REGARDING COOPERATION AMONG SO
TO PROVIDE A SKATE PARK FOR AREA YOUTH
TOA CITIES
WHEREAS, the Shorewood Park Commission was approached in 1998 by youth of the community
requesting assistance to build a skate park in the south lake area; and
WHEREAS, Resolution No. 98--42 requested the Park Commission to appoint a representative to
communicate and work with representatives of other interested south lake cities on a joint committee to
analyze the feasibility of a skate park and to make recommendations back to the City; and
WHEREAS, said Committee has been meeting for over a year in an effort to coordinate resources to
build a skate park in the south Lake Minnetonka area; and
WHEREAS, the I999 -2003 Shorewood Capital Improvement Program reads "currently, a youth
coalition is working on the logistics of the siting and possible construction of a skate park within the south
Lake Minnetonka area. 55,000 has been set aside to aid in the effort during the 1999 construction season "; and
WHEREAS, said coalition is involving area youth in design of a park for the use of both roller
bladers and skate boarders; and
WHEREAS, Mayor Love has offered to approach other south Iake cities on behalf of the coalition to
work cooperatively to build said skate park in the south shore area.
NOW, THERE BE IT RESOLVED by the Shorewood City Council that said project proposal is
meritorious and has the support of the City Council
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that said support is contingent upon Mayor Love's communicating
with other south Iake city councils to get their commicmenr for ap
project. propriate resources to make this a truly joint
1999. ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, of the City of Shorewood, Minnesota this 26" day of July,
ATTEST
A TE : WOODY LOVE, MAYOR
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HURM, ITY ADMINISTRATOR
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Notes from the Youth Coalition Meeting
Held Wednesday, August 18,1999
Present: Dan Puzak, Matt Pike, Judd Mowry, Woody Love and Jim Hurm
The meeting began at 5:15 p.m.
Coalition members reviewed the current status of their efforts for Mayor Woody Love.
Dan Puzak explained that there is a need for a core group of people to lead the process.
$25,000 to $30,000 needed for a park with rails, ledges and curbs, which would be under
3 feet in height and could be built on the former wayside parking area on the north side of
Highway 7 at Old Market Road. The next step would be building higher ramps. This
however would require significant expenditure for building the ramps, for increased
insurance costs and for supervision requirements. There was a consensus that we should
begin with a challenging grind park, which is the lower rail, ledges and curbs.
Dan Puzak summarized that there are three main needs:
1) Fund raising involving adults and youth. Local businesses, civic groups, and
the Chamber of Commerce need to be contacted. Mayor Love can approach
the other cities for contributions, perhaps in an amount equal to the city's
population, which should raise about $15,000.
2) There is a need for a project manager who will coordinate the construction.
3) There is an immediate need for a design group. Dan Puzak and Matt Pike
indicated an interest in serving on this group.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 6:00 p.m.
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Shoreline Message
August 19, 1999
Hi, my name is Timothy Hughes. I'm a skate boarder here and the Excelsior area. I have
been building skate ramps for about 4 or 5 years and enjoying it. I'm not talking about
little ramps; I'm talking about big ramps. I have quite a few connections throughout the
skate community, throughout Minnesota and California. I know you are looking to build
a skate park and I've talked to Matt Pike. My parents are personal friends with his
grandparents. I learned about the agenda a little bit. I `m kind of stepping in. I
petitioned the park in Chanhassen. They passed their park just 1 lh weeks ago. We got
that thing rolling and the park will be in mid September. If you would like to know more
about that I suggest you call Todd Hoffman.
I have quite a few lists of vendors and other individuals throughout the Minneapolis and
St. Paul area that just build skate parks, ramps and all sorts of other stuff just for the fun
of it like myself, and serious vendors to. If I can be of any assistance please give me a
call at (612) 474 -9158, that is my house number. Work is 474 -4214. I will be there at
7a.m. tomorrow during the day.
So if you could give me a call, whoever is in charge of little coalition or big coalition.
Whatever is going on please give me a call, I would like to get more involved and learn
more about the process and be of support any way I can. Thank you so much.
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By Danielle Engle
Park Commission meeting.
Staff Reporter
Speaking on the open agenda,
he requested help developing a
Part one of two
skate -park. Pike received a
strong voice of support from the
t began two years ago when
commission.:.
Matt Pike, a twelve - year -old
Pike .then approached Jim
from Shorewood, visited
Hurm; Shorewood City
Minneapolis skate park. Pike
Administrator. Hurm was
realized that youngsters in his
.' impressed with Pike's idea. He
area also needed a safe place set
contacted city administrators in
aside for in -line skating and
the surrounding cities of
skateboarding.
Excelsior, Greenwood and "
The only places Pike and his
Tonka Bay."
friends could skate around
On October 23, 1997, a meet -
home were the sidewalks; park -.:
' ing was held'• to- discuss: the
ing lots and shopping
ee
fieeas of area .youth and ideas
This posed problems with local'
were excha'nged.on how to meet
traffic, especially pedestrians
"those ='nee'ds.; Attendees
who were reluctant to walk
r'evi'ewed existing programs for
through a group of youngsters
the 2,000 middle school and
whizzing past and making
'2,000 high school students liv-
quick turns on in line skates and
ing iii the area. It ivas "agreed
skateboards.
that some of the youngsters
Pike decided to do something
could not identify with' and' in
about it. He went home and cre- :''"some cases, could not. afford
ated a model for the skate park
` membershlp in clubs such as the
he envisioned.. Ignited by a •.
YMCA and. the ,Northwest
cause, a dream and the determi-
Athletic Club'.
nation to make it happen, Pike .
Youth .living in apartment
took his model to a Shorewood
buildings along Highway 7
have limited outlets for recref " \ turedyfor the normal progres bearing: nearly 150 signatu
ation. Por those old enougli to ",.:'`slon bf adolescent rebellion and , was presented to South La
independence. ' Youth Coalition.
The group created an agenda ParkCommissioner D
and an identity, known collec - puzak states, "We have a w
In=line skatin � and tively as South . L ake .:�outh� +.,
g t •deiful'oppottUhity to say yes
Coalition Tlie� coalition ha
sy the youth in' our `community,
skateboarding are expanded to include area par-, resp res the not ha
eats, youth, church leaders, + p y m
legitimate sports council members,, sc offs heard from us before. In -li
cials, city. administrators,
teach—skating and skateboarding
activities. These, ers and other concerned' ;citi legitimate sports 'activiti
zens. These youngsters are asking t
youngsters are asking While' the group organized adults in their communities
the adults in their: .
eommninitie's.to help.
provide a safe place
foe them to enjoy their-
sport and interact' ..
with-other youngsters..
be without adult supervision,
existing programs are too struc-
and gathered information, Mike
Allan and Sam 'Earl = Hansen,
two 'students" at Minnetonka'
West Junior High, circulatgd;a, t
petition in = support .of 'a`'skate
park. Signatures we're - gathered
and the petition 'was'presented
to Hurm. +
` Hurm ' contacted' William
,Parks, principal at Minnetonka
'West Parks' approached the.
school's' 'teachers
with the petition. They posted ii
on their"classtoom doors and
explained its purpose to' their
students. ,
On June 3, 1999, the petition,
help provide a safe place f
them to enjoy.' their. sport ai
interact witli'other youngster;
Next week, Part two of this ser
will review the progress of i
coalition, their plan of action a
their need for volunteers a
resources to complete the proje
Meanwhile, anyone interested
contacting the group may call 5c
Earl- Hansen at (612) 470 -1485
Dan ' Puzak at (612) 366 -17,
They' can also be contacted bi
mail: samearihansen ®juno.com
dpuzak ®isd.net.
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With downtown laws prohibiting
skateboarding, suburban skate
{ parks are offibiff g kateboarders
II alternative `places j to rid_ e. For some:
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;teenage boys, ,tee sportgoverns their..
hues as : well as their allowances.
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babies. Of worse, it our owmn hi It =
We heard Matthew's daily pleadmi
l fe lessons But playingthe adults hemvi f4:
knew fishy decisions required calm
consideration. By the time my hus-
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By Tracy tart Aaron Olson, 15,
Star Tnbune.Sta f topped a ramp
at Lions Valley
the in - skates crashing a gains t the Place Park
A mong
wooden structures, a skateboard occasionally in Crystal
floats by. A ibri Olsonades the board "We know there
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smoothly and tucks.his body for a jump as he travels : is a need in the
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up the curved plpwo`od ramp. Arms outstretched, he community for
wobbles -in midairand lands hard on his knees on the - these parks,"
cement floor ofthe SL Louis Park ice arena, which said Crystal
has been convened into a makeshift skate park ...:: Recreation
Aaron brusheshimself off and runs to the side-: Director Gene -
lines to retrievefiis knee pads, almost as an after-" :: Hackett "So
thought. The: bulky pads disappear as he slides them now, we're glad
on.under liis.15aggy jeans. He picks up his skateboard to offer this
and tries the jwmp again. And again.. ... opportunity for
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"I get hurtall the time, but rve never really broken the kids to have
..
anythmg,7 Almn says with the fearlessness of a 1S- a place to come
year- old.:"TahMs have bruised -up shins and elbows." and skate."
Aaronr"of Maple Grove, has been skateboarding
`starting
for two Xeeeares; the summer after he learned
iow to snovvboar& His current daily routine"re=
rolves around the many skate parks that recently -
s"irigup in Twin Cities suburbs, where he
d hBsWiends practice daringmoves.' - = -
- Desute the increasing popularity of in -line skat
nVmagyoungsters still choose to skateboard. In
one gear the sporthas grown from 4.7 million -to 6-1
kiiiiio skateboarders in the United States,'accord ., -
nga' 1997 survey by the NationaI.Sporting Goods.'
macration, based in MountProspect Ill
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to SKATEBOARDING alt E2 - t r, - L x
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7 Y u t�uy VVOCYVC O►aa e .�_._.. o - �
h other's moves.
Jndl recently, areas where
:eboarders can practice their - -
ps legally— called "011ies,"
k flips" and "circle spins" —
e been virtually nonexistent.
the, ^ -°sual observer, all jumps Brian Martin, is, left, leaves his board du
p jump at Uo p star Tribune pf by Duane ar
'IC ie same, Ols
but Aaron .. on is airborne in the middle of a jump. ring a ram n's valley Place
C . At right, Aaron'
;ts U,dy are not)
They have cops that are ap- . - -:. passing Although officers o
o t ften
ntly dedicated"
sidewalks and stuff them for these Iaws. tI
m u s." ^ a s tern warniri te rhe oaz ha e want a s
th sidlk— I � ecta could on
wouldn't
s • a gnumber
a skaters and stop PP g J' skateboarder co begun to experimc
known to confiscate the skate - towards me." : '?g tiaofproviding super -
;though many suburbs have boards of repeat offenders. t. pees for skaters. -
mplemented ordinances. ' • --
"Most of the time, the kids just A park of their own skater, I've
tst skateboarding and in -li ne skate in the streets where th re aeeseea so maw skate parks
ag, Minneapolis and St. Paul not supposed to be," said Aaron's lament t f that es well as hiss ririts s Pal '
P Prin�ng up all over the place,"
ibit skating on downtown mom,- said Steve n, 30. He mange
ralks, streets,, parking lots "Sometimes it interferes with cally have devoted space in public the Pro Shop at the 3rd Lair in-
ither areas of business. people. Other rimes it de- parks for baseball diamonds, bas- door skate parkin Minneapolis.
:aught, skateboarders can be , stroys property," said M ketball courts and swimming This summer,
$25. and cited for tres- " ' MeY pools but have shown little com- IIe �,i� TrtteRide Inc.,
er, Dan s mom. I don t blame mitment to building skate parks. skate
_ park design company; is bringin€
- - portable skate packs to various
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un j_ moved to equrpment will be .
ple: Grove.
Wool 'think this is agreat wayfor
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D&S . es to get their fee wet anc
.�,. , �, ? . introduce skateboarding to the
iativ
The screens. Hypnosis Works! younger gene�at<oni aid Tony
�r ,, amazed. l get a lot 'of 'Hi, and straightforward. ' " '
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_; There outhlake HYpnos�s delivered, on i::Skinny ?" It feels great C.rardelli, an ownerofTnieftide.
eed to sign a : the ' The exclusive When I was overwei ht: eo ie somethi l tel deprived_ If there's'
outh had . Positive :;Changes System atwauld ask me if I was pregna .,pletelychange t eat ��m P�Y'cltiesaregoingto
�vantro build a
Southtakke made weight loss automat ,� Mras mortifying: I know that's never `food. permanent [skate
?!�!► out ' Parkl someday. Ac co to Cia '
ic_Likian uivalu rdmg
chary response_ goin to ha en a atn� �.TraeRide`parks average
;work hard at diet- g RR g I think and at fake a naturally thin *• -: -
l know the next half of. fife `person. it's about 6� customers a day
ote: down .eve stay moll }
ry wiii'be great No extra ba vated. 0f me to "We know ther
wi e is aneed in the
morsel thaCpass -, iny,fips. - I'm'physical corrrforhable• °, : _ r :• . tromin P "said
,. Measured and<weighed.each # unityfiorthese arks
ounce- ;fir; I'm abetter role model for x Cali Now ..h Works! "±'Recreation Director Gene
„- evolv nce:My rde no.longe ; my children.: When you. hear, I've wasted my mdney on weight Hackett DSO• we're glad 6 res aro un dfood ` [ F Mom, I realty want to be loss programs � that didn't defier o ffer t�'oP
: - had Poryfor the kids
a.mind change
M}+ eanfidence !s � .lust like you,' d's music Southiake Hypnosis was the smartest to have a Place to come and
soanng I'm lnnng ' = ` to your ears. investment I ever made.: skate..
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my dreams:. J
,; 3 5 I recommend Southtake Hypnosis - Fmm a converted paking lot
_.1•�} feel '``' Pride and daily I recommend it to everyone. is ms's lions V r
great blood pressur mely acid ''�v= �'- At first eo le : ry Park, HackeityvatchAaro�n and s
ejore my e �s- ~` $ �� ! am extre P R say. 'Hypnosis? I •
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:felfit then doctor She asked me
accomplish I good look at me. I'mfiingtestfmony rampsbeforethebcr crash and
:mom l: anj Hypnosis works. burn.:
I lost the weight::
She - 6e recom- 'take all • the w - Aaron ho p s back onto his
saw slime ,� . c r ,e_�d - I t = Overrelght barb = "board'in another aitem t ata
duation l s mending South!ake p
led. 'There Hypnosis. _ to hecr t h a jump thatregzes
u 'u gh .:. I know. l was then. DonT lit kick flip' iu
iappen! : Patierrts.'. H Y R' n o s.i s P ?sy failures stand in the way, of your his skateboard to Sip in the air
Y lose ; made it a happiness Call Southlake
Hypnosis before he lands on it again. He
Compliments Gafore ; s I have not. at 832 -5001. They won't
mind. My, drarge you � wobbles, tiles - into air as the
stounding .I'm confident my had: to" deal a Penny to find out if hypnosis is for board spins Beneath him and
motivated.;; weight loss is for with cravings J:°U Themt no pressure. No 0693- lands safely, just as he regains his
I dro in 9ood.: Hypnosis and• binges. boa. if they don't think hypnosis is' balance the board swerves side
PR g � gave .. a whole new No messin right for you, Ihey'll tell you so.
melted off 9 wags and deposits Aaion on the
. Philosophy.*.` ; - I eat With ` diets : Dontbe�efttowonderwhat ground — addingyet another
c petite. -.0 when . I'm hungry. pills or prey might have beea -Pick up the phone bruise. Undeterred,-Aar picks
tin. Stop when I'm full. I'm packaged and call now. himself
9 satisfied in every way. I'm; uP. smiles and starts over.
eded my' 1n control. Hypnosis Carol Hooper
My family and friends` made weight " L
loss simple'. 7RAM be OIves
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FROM FAX NO. Jun. 02 2000 10:18AM P2
S . kate park
idea gaining
momentum',.
in . community
im
.Shorewood 060dil
announces support
B Michelle Wallin
Sun NewsPaPors .
varie o f source axe con.
r interest in .the con-
qiructi6n, of A park for skate•
bbardiyig 'and in-1 ' ine - rkatink
w ithin: Vie. South Lake Min-
- pxea.
Suppor teTS of the .proj are
1 H 'project 'manager
and ro-ay"soorf
sine fund-raising.Eifforts
. The 8 City'CiAfficill
at its regular, meeting July 26,
passe&a resolution "pressing i
interest in working -cooperatively
with other cities on the project-
one .oif the potential aftes for
the project is in Shore-Wood, said
Dan - Puzac, a 'member of the'
Shorewood .Park Commission.
The locktion is an old state high-
_way rest area on Highway 7,
ifteat 0 Ld Market Road, that is
: 4ee'ded over to Sho rewood. .
Tbrik a'Bay city' officials. have.
- said that it might be possible for'
the skate park to be built at
Camp Manitou, Puzac -Md.
J,ti an interview, Shorcwo
ma Love said ho hopes
South Lake• area cities can ' dis-
cuss together, what. would be the
b site for ' thi park.
Love has offered•to approach
other south Lake cities — in-
cluding Greenwood, Excelsior,
Tocka Ba'y and . Deephaven — to
out their level 6f commit-
_inqxtt to,. th project. He ,is dw
this not only on behalf of the
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council, b on beh of a corntnunikv
youth coalition, which has been re viewing
ekiready. been.,in-
volved. Love
.Love discussed the need for the cuvi-
jun t c for individuaLAI;
well as teen)- based, recreation. He said
',hn skat6 park would'.help to z=n.A.put
the recreation uppoi-tupMes of` tiy
youth.
Ma Pike of
Chanhassen, wh*j f ' ka I b9iin b'i-; fresh
e
igh Sc '00 1
man ye&r at Vinn4kt H ( 0
le� w� that thgy
7
next. month, said he 0
park will be built b the ti
if not InAre.
Abijut a year and a half o9o, Matt aP-
proached the city of Shorewood, con-
cerned abort, whoire he could 'ride hip
skateboard.
M-att asid he had also heard conce-4
from ot` per youth who -were looking for
places to skate.
'I decided W c Horno 1,11 i I ig bi6Mut it," he
am.L•Ue added that he also brought a
model of � ;lea IA., the C.;t,Y_ . .
. PlIzao explained Olathe 4nd the
other Shorewood Park
I
kids. , -- ,not no
ts 'felt N questions were
nd_that ,exploring .Ac issue
'wou . Id be worthwhile.
Soon aftor, a coalition with 0'01vanuzii-
ty rnornbers front several South Lake
cities formed to analyze the - weeds of
y6v tl 1 n th6 'So' 0 t1i, :0
For tkre coalition, the skate park
issue wa.d a. prortilhoint itern of discus-
sion daring the PCIFA Tlie coalition
is also itivdivink area youth in the
a WS de . sign,
" It's a great: opportunity. to AdY Yei$.to
ids ins.t* ivo;", Pti said:
( We doh!t want to let down," Ile
s", id of Lhe Youth have worked an the
Ninfl sai&Iii6re than 200 youth sigX.ed
a pc .t Nlinnetonka Middle School
We,qt, oxp; : :Ang,thevr intern in the
park.
In addition to pao*ing s resolution of
support, Shorewood has already Aar.
rr-,sirkorl $5,D00 toward construction or
the skate park.
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