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PARK COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 1999 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA
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CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Colopoulos
Puzak
Bensman
Dallman
Arnst
Themig
Cochran
B. Review Agenda
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Minutes of February 9,1999 (Att. -#2 Draft Minutes)
3.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4.
TRAIL PLANNING PROCESS
• Review Results of February 23 Trail Open House
• Other Issues
Action: A. Decision on Trail Alignments to be Walked` and Tunes For Walks
REPORT FROM CITY PLANNER CONCERNING THE STATUS OF
5.
AND OPTIONS FOR THE EAGLECREST/WAGNER PROPERTY -
BRAD NIELSEN(Att. -#5)
DISCUSSION OF 'LITTLE LEAGUE PROPOSAL TO SOD FIELD 2,
6.
COORDINATION WITH DEVELOPMENT OF THE EAGLECREST
PROPERTY AND DISCUSS INSTALLING POLES AND NETTING
ALONG THIRD BASE FENCE LINE AT FIELD 2
7.
REVIEW 1999 "TO DO" LIST (Att. - #7)
Action: A. Make Additions/Deletions
B. Develop Schedule
8.
DISCUSSION OF CHANGE IN PARK DEDICATION FEES
CONSISTENT WITH FISCAL POLICY (Att.48)
CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION OF THE RE- APPOINTMENT OF
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KEN DALLMAN AS A PARK COMMISSION MEMBER OF PARK
FOUNDATION (CHUCK _COCHR.AN IS ON UNTIL 2001)
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10. OTHER BUSINESS
11. NEW BUSINESS
Action: A. Develop Agenda for Next Work Session and April Meeting (Att. - #11)
12. ADJOURNMENT
Council Liaison.
Mar. - Colopoulos
Apra Dallman
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY FEBRUARY 9,1999
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
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1. CONVENE PARK COMMIS S ION MEETING
Co -chair Pat Arnst called the meeting to order at 7:34 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Co- chairs, Dallman and Arnst; Commissioners Colopoulos, Puzak, Themig, and
Cochran; City Administrator JimHurm; Council Liaison Scott Zerby; Park Planner,
M ark Koeger
Absent: Commissioner Bensman
Also Present: Gordy Lindstrom, Baseball Representative; Public Works Director, Larry Brown
(later arrival)
B. Review Agenda
Item #5 is moved to the Mardi meeting agenda.
Themig moved, Puzak seconded to approve the Agenda as amended. Motion passed
unanimously (6/0).
2. APPRO VAL O F JANUARY 13,1999 PARK C O MIVIGSS S IO N MINUTES
Puzak moved , Colopoulos seconded, to accept the minutes as presented. The motion
passed unanimously.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLO O R
Mr. Gordy Lindstrom, Shorewood resident and Little Leagie Baseball representative, addressed the
Commission to: (1) review improvements and changes that have been made to the ball field areas;
and (2) give an update on changes in the baseball progam for 1999. He displayed a map of the ball
fields at Freeman Park and explained the changes to field #3 over the past year. Those included:
adjustment of the parking lot to the north, addition of bullpen areas, electronic scoreboard and a
is flagpole. He stated that these adjustments perhaps eliminate the need to install additional fencing
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for safety reasons.
Mr. Lindstrom added that the Leagre has also installed electrical service to the pitchers' mounds on
field #1 and at Cathcart Park for the operation of pitching machines. All of these changes are to
allow for a more efficient prog n, which has served children of ages 6 to 15. This year, the South
Tonka Little Leagie has merg�d with Fast Tonka Babe Ruth (housed at Bennett Park in
Minnetonka). Therefore, the Leagie would like permission to eventually make changes to field #2
at Freeman to accommodate older players. This would require the use of some additional land to the
east of the ball field (the Wagner property) for reconfiguration of the ball field and traffic areas. The
Leagie has been given some estimates of the cost of such improvements, which they will cover if
the City is able to acquire the additional property. In the meartime, the Leagre would like
permission to sod the infield of the Babe Ruth diarmnd this spring.
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Chair Arnst asked how much additional land would be needed. Lindstrom said a minimum of 20 to
30 feet. Colopoulos asked if the boards of the two associations have also merWd and if the new
board is in favor of the reconfiguration. Lindstrom said they have merWd and that the
reconfiguration should not be a problem. The other advantage in rearranging the ball field is that the •
noise would project away from the Shorewood Oaks neighborhood which is to the west of the park
Dallman asked if the poles and nets will still need to be installed as was planned for a protection
from foulballs going into private property. Puzak recommended that this be addressed soon for the
sake of neigibors, regardless of plans for future changes which could be slow in coming.
Colopoulos pointed out that there will likely be more practices and games than in the past. He
would personally approve the use of the current field configuration for only the p rep leagie (13 year
olds) because of the current space situation. Council Liaison Scott Zerby interjected that the City
Council voted the night before to settle the lawsuit with the prospective developer of the Wagner
property and approved the initial application of the PUD for 60 to 62 units. The proposed plan
was shown on the overhead projector for the Park Commission. There was discussion about how
this proposal would affect the options for reconfiguration of the ball fields and the affects on traffic
flow and safety.
Administrator Hurm pointed out that the plan is only a concept. Colopoulos said that the reduction
in the number of units from the last proposal was not in the area of the concern, but to the north,
which is a wetland area, adding that the needs of the park are ignored in this plan. Puzak reiterated
the concern for safety, especially to and from the concession stand near that area, and stated that the
additional 30 to 50 feet would definitely be needed. Lindstrom indicated that this is all the more
reason to reconfigure the field. Colopoulos said that the problem would still exist without the
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acquisition of additional space for traffic. Arnst sugTsted waiting until the Council further
discusses theproposal from the developer and then provide an updated report forMr. Lindstrom at
the Mardi meeting.
Lindstrom asked if the Leagie could sod the infield this spring. Themig asked if it would require
irrigation. Lindstrom said no, that it would just need to be heavily watered at the beginning. Hurm
said that the question of a backstop and poles and netting still remains. Arnst said that those issues
can also be discussed at the M arch meeting and still allow time for installation. It was agreed that in
any case; additional land would be a positive point for safety, room to play the game and a wider
road to handle increased traffic. Themig suggested that the reality might be that we have a park
which may not be able to support this program. Puzak said that in light of the Iona term
relationship with the Little Leagie and all they have done to enhance the parr he would hate to not
come through with 30 feet to allow them to continue safe play. Lindstrom briefly explained some of
the history of the park development and concluded that it is reasonable for the City to request
additional land in order to be a good neigibor to residents all around.
• 4. TRAIL REVIEW - MARK KOEGLER
A. Review Format for February 23 Meeting
The meeting will be an open house format with displays and exhibits. Commissioners, staff,
Council members and Park Planner KoeJer will be on hand to visit with residents and answer
questions.
B. Review Handouts/Exhibits for February 23 Meeting
Park Planner Koegler described the p lanned set-up for the Op en House including a series of stations
with maps, a timeline from 1991 and into the future, a larger text display of goals, policies and
objectives, and an exhibit of trail types. There will also bean area for comment sheets with a goal
that people will hopefully be comfortable with expressing their thoughts. Arnst asked about
information regarding funding sources. Koeder explained that they do not plan to go into great detail
until more is known about the process. He added that cost estimates would also be difficult to
project at this point because of all the variables such as right of way issues, obstacles, etc.
Themig asked how to address questions that may come up regarding interest in some bridging over
Highway 7. Puzak suggested the possibility of requesting State funds along with that idea," which is
• still very much in the future. Colcpoulos added that priority will be assigned in all options,
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depending on public interest. Cochran brought up the ideaof having a suggestion board at the open
house for getting that kind of input from residents.
C. Review Roll of Park Commission
Koeger reviewed the plan that Commissioners will take a front and center role and had taken
assigned times during the evening so that at least one Park Commissioner would be present at all
times. Staff and consulting staff will be there as a support to the Commissioners. Colopoulos
recommended that everyone keep notes of verbal conversations and comments. Hurm said that he
will beat the sign -in areato encourage people to register their presence and to introduce them to the
format. Colopoulos suggested a goal of communication with soft input collection, with Koeger
adding that the atmosphere is to be friendly and casual. Cochran asked if survey results will be
posted. Koeder said that copies will be available.
D. Consider Targeted Mailings
Arnst stated that the City Council has urged the Park Commission to consider mailings to encourage
attendance at the open house meeting. Hurm said that a mailing is planned for those properties
along the priority trail sites and asked if the Commission would like to expand the mailing list. The
Commission approved the draft mailer for the immediate property owners and discussed whether to
go beyond that list.
Puzak said that the trail process (and trails) are for the entire community and all should be
p ersonally invited. This will result in getting a more balanced response, and not just hearing from
those more directly impacted. Cochran commented that it will be good to have responses of
impassioned people, even if it is a more negative tone Themig asked about mailing a postcard to all
residents in addition to the "targeted" mailer. Colopoulos said that the February newsletter insert
which was sent to all residents will trigger attendance, and yet a postcard reminder would be good
for those who may have forgptten or didn't read the newsletter.
Administrator Hurm said that most comments have so far been positive. There was one Edgewood
Road resident in the office today who was strongly opposed to a trd along her street. Cochran
noted that people may trust the process more and go away with a positive attitude if all are included
via invitation. Puzak added that if attendance is lower with primarily negative responses, it could
unfairly drive the decision. Dallman said he liked the idea of staying with the list of most affected
residents rather than the whole community. Zerby also agreed with the targeted mailer, p ok ting out
that some of those residents maybe supporters of the trail. Those residents should be specifically
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invited as they may become "partners /caretakers" of the trail. Their feed back may also help in
prioritizing in order to establish some success stories for trails in Shorewood.
Hurmnoted that there will be a public announcement published in the local papers as well Puzak
said that he is stilt uncomfortable with just the tarWted mailer. All will benefit by trails and all
should be invited. He is concerned about repeating history where a strong minority derailed the
interests of the community.
Puzak moved to send letter to each household in Shorewood that would announce the
trails open house. Wording forthose on the trial would say "your street" (as written on the
draft invitation) and all others would say "your neighborhood."
The motion was amended to say that all residents will be sent a postcard and the 210
"targeted" mailers will be letters. Cochran seconded the motion as amended and it passed
6/0.
Koeger noted that, in error, the map which was part of the newsletter insert was missing a segment
• of indicated trail along Smithtown Road, east of Minnewashta School. His concern is that it may
give the perception of inconsistency. He asked if it should now be included on the new map for the
open house display. All agreed that it should be added because it was approved in earlier
discussions as a priority trail segment.
E Consider a Time Line for 1999 Trail Planning Process
Administrator Hurm reviewed the timeline draft including sunset times for M arch, Ap ril and M ay.
Arnst added that the mission is to keep this schedule untrl prospective trails are identified. There
was discussion about scheduling trail walks for Saturday mornings in addition to or instead of the
proposed Tuesday evening schedule. That question will be added to the open house feedback form
to get citizen input.
F. Update on Funds Allocated forPark Planner
Arnst asked if there were any questions or problems with the information provided in the January
19 memo from Administrator Hurm regarding trail planning costs. There were none. Hurm added
that the cost of the additional mailer will be also drawn from the trail fund All agreed.
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G. Other Issues
Commissioner Themig mentioned a mailer he received about trail development in Chanhassen, which
supports possible trail links with Shorewood segments. He also shared information about the trail
grant programs, which he said favor state and regional connections. There are lots of dollars
available from other progfams which would be appropriate for application next year.
Arnst stated that Mayor Love has asked that the open house be posted as a public notice in case a
majority of City Council members attend. This will be taken care of by staff.
5. DIS CUS S DES IGN CONCEPT OF FREEMAN PARK MULTI PURPOS E BUIIDING
This item is tabled until the Mardi 9 meeting.
6. REVIEWA1111"IC AS S OCIATION POLICIES (DRAFT) AND FEE FORMULAS
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A. Finalize Policies 0
Commissioner Themig gave an update on the work that has been done to date Public Works
Director, Larry Brown has provided a detailed analysis of costs to operate the parks on a yearly
basis. Brown explained that `Base Costs" would cover basic maintenance of the park land owned
by the City. These are defined as the cost of having green space for people to enjoy which includes
mowing, weed control, trash pickup, aeration, park equipment and general turf care The "Above
Base Costs" include drag ing/groomingball fields, equipment specific to ball fields, materials, fencing
and fence repairs. Brown noted that some could be argued as "gray areas." Puzak said that it should
be footnoted that park development is not factored into these figures.
B. Decide on Funcing Formula
Themig said that the Committee then looked at costs for space provided to each sports association.
The purpose is to come up with a concept on how to determine a fee to propose to the associations
as a formula for their user fees. Brown went on to explain Table 3, a summary of hockey costs.
Biff rental is included, but could also be considered a base cost. Hurm pointed out that much of the
figures reflect "ice costs ", since the hockey association may have it only reserved for a small amount
of available ice time Mr. Lindstrom added his observation that the average amount of actual use is
only about half of the scheduled time due to weather, ice conditions, etc.
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Brown commented that it would be interesting to survey surrounding communities on how they
address reserved park space. Arnst noted that the Shorewood tax base does not have commercial
resources. Plus funds for parks are limited and decreasing so we look at Shorewood differently.
Hurm added that the Minnetonka Community and Education Services which does scheduling for
p ark faculity use have not been able to come up with a formula. Themig said that one idea they have
discussed is an hourly fee for exclusive -use ice time that would involve a formula which proratesice
costs.
Hurm noted that in looking at the three associations that are the greater users of park space, the
costs are very different from one to the next. Yet the yearly "fee?' has been the same for all. The
estimated above base costs are:
Softball $12,648
Baseball (Little League) $8,217
Soccer $4,775
Football $1,555
Themig asked Mr. Lindstrom if he was surprised at the figure of $8,217 for Little League costs.
• Lindstrom said that it is understandable, but will take some time to digest. Colopoulos stated that
the process of studying this information is a healthy exercise which now requires a look at the fiscal
policy before establishing formulas and user fees. Themig rep fled that this has been the process.
Puzak said that there is also a need to incorporate into this information, contributions in "cost and
kind," citing the example of Little League which has done and given so much Themig said that this
data is strictly looking at maintenance; not improvements. What Little League has done was done to
benefit Little League. Lindstrom said that the Little League does not have a problem with paying for
exclusive use.
Themig explained that determiningthe hours avaiable in a season vs. hours of actual use could give a
formula for a p ercentage of the cost. Hurm said that perhap s an hourly formula should include base
costs. Brown commented that he stayed away from including base costs because that is just for
providing basic green space. Themig added that the City would cover some percentage of these
costs as part of their fiscal policy.
Colopoulos brought up the question of real estate values and how other commmmities compare in
amenities they provide to residents. He asked how Shorewood's fiscal policy would fit into the
wider picture. Arnst noted that the fiscal policy should be included in the discussion of park user
fees and costs. Colopoulos added that a partnership attitude is needed between the sports
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Puzak complimented Mr. Brown on a good job of collecting and preparing the data on park costs.
He agreed that a fiscal policy of some kind needs to be developed. He reminded everyone that the
sports organizations are our partners, working with our community's children and therefore
providing benefit to the greater community. He urged that we work together to solve the problem.
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Themig asked if Community Education and Services can provide information on the number of
hours of field time requested by the various groups. Hurm said that they can, with some time to
gather that information. Arnst recommended that the committee take the next step to develop a
fiscal policy, get information on hours of use and then put together a forinula of ideas to look at in
thenext meeting. This was agreed upon.
C. Set Date/ Format for S ession with Sports Organizations
Themig asked if sports association representatives should be invited for the next meeting's
discussion. It was agreed that ideas need more work and solidifying before they are presented.
Themig asked if the City Council should be more involved with this part of the process. Puzak •
responded that the Park Commission needs to develop a concept before presenting a plan to the
Council because that is the responsibility assigned to the Commission.
Mr. Lindstrom interjected a comment about the softball association and some of its changes in order
to explain why they may have declined to contribute to the park fund for this past year. He added
that Todd Strott, past President of the softball association had donated many hours to operate the
concession stand at Freeman Park Colopoulos sugWsted that the softball area could possibly be
shared with women's softball or other groups if the men's softball is lower in numbers this year. It
was mentioned, that because of the timing of a policy decision, any changes made to the policy will
not be effective for this y ear.
7. REVIEW 1999 "TO DO" LIST
This item is tabled until the March meeting agenda.
8. REVIEW PARK DEDICATION FEE
Hurm explained that the Park Dedication Fee is the major resource for Capital Improvements.
The current fee is set at $1,000 per buildable lot. Puzak recommended a fee schedule based on
linear or square footage. Colopoulos asked how the fee would apply in the case of a multiple
unit development (such as Eagle Crest). Hurm said that the situation of senior housing and •
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donated land create a different scenario. Themig asked for the reason that an increase is being
considered. Hurm explained that Shorewood has a significantly lower fee than most of its
neighbors and Arnst added that park funds (and buildable lots) are on the decline. Hurm said that
there are about 300 buildable lots remaining in Shorewood averaging about 10 home constructions
per year. He added that the revenue dollars from park dedication fees are earmarked for
improvements of parks (not maintenance or trail development).
Colopoulos commented that the cost is ultimately passed on to the homeowner, not the
developer or builder. Yet, over the life of a mortgage, it does not increase payments significantly.
Hurm suggested that there be a flat fee rather than a formula to determine the amount.
Colopoulos said that P.U.D. (Planned Unit Development) decisions should be brought to the
Park Commission because it impacts park planning and decisions. Hurm replied that it has been
the practice in the past to involve the Park Commission.
Themig moved to recommend to City Council that the Park Commission amend the Park
. Dedication Fee to remain at $1,000 per unit and add $500 per unit for trails. There was
no second and the motion died.
Puzak said that he is not ready for the idea of including trails in that policy. Themig explained
that the parks are primarily developed and this idea would focus additional resources on our
current development (trails). Puzak replied that there are still a lot of development and
improvement expenses ahead for parks and he is not willing to say that we don't need the money
for park development. Colopoulos said that he is not yet ready to specify funds to trails.
Themig pointed out that the recent community survey says that (1) parks meet the needs of
most peoples and (2) that there is a desire for trails.
Dallman moved to recommend to the city Council that the Park Commission raise the
Park Dedication Fee to $1,500. Colopoulos seconded.
Cochran questioned if $1,500 is enough of an increase. Dallman said that it is increased on a
yearly basis. Colopoulos suggested considering a friendly amendment that the Park Commission
make this part of their fiscal policy. Puzak said that this may be a missed opportunity. In
looking at other cities, some use a percentage of the market value to set a fee which results in a
significantly higher amount. By comparison, Shorewood is on the low end of the scale. He
recommended going with 7% of the market value with a minimum of $1,000 and maximum of
$3,000. Arnst pointed out that with an average lot price of $100,000, the fee will almost always
0 max out at the $3,000 limit.
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Themig asked why "penalize" those who build houses this year and still why not include trails?
Puzak said trails could be included and Colopoulos said that there is not a limit to where it is
spent in the current plan. Arnst asked where does the money get spent if the fee is raised to
$1,500? Hurm said that is up to the Park Commission to decide.
A vote was taken on the motion currently on the floor. The motion failed 3/3.
Puzak asked if there was a time limit on when this decision is made. Hurm replied that the earlier
in the calendar year, the better. Arnst said that with the added element of trails, the Commission
will want to recognize that option. Themig added that it would be good to consider this in the
fiscal policy discussion. Puzak said that including trails is a huge change and it needs more
thought than there is time at this meeting. Themig asked if Excelsior has a Park Dedication Fee
and Hurm said that there are no undeveloped lots to speak of in Excelsior. Themig asked when
Shorewood last changed the fee amount. It was changed from $750 to $1,000 two years ago.
9. REPORT ON LETTER TO COUNCIL REGARDING WAGNER PROPERTY •
Council Liaison Zerby reported that the City Council approved a motion to settle the lawsuit with
Eagle Crest Inc. because the Council felt that the judos settlement would likely be less favorable
than coming to terms between themselves. They also approved a Resolution to accept the PUD at a
lower density and continue the process. There are still a lot of details to work out. One issue is
traffic, which is a concern, especially of residents along Seamans Drive. The City cannot deny the
project for traffic reasons, but can work with the developer to resolve traffic issues.
Arnst pointed out that the Park Commission had already expressed to the Planning Commission and
City Council that they were in consensus about the need to acquire a portion of Wagner property to
resolve safety and traffic issues within Freeman Park Zerby replied that the City Council had
considered the request and decided that it was not appropriate to discuss that matter with the
developer at this time Colopoulos added that the Park Commission does have a legitimate concern
to maintain the integrity of the park boundary and hopes that the Council recognizes that. Themig
asked if the development involves other properties. Zerby said that Eagle Crest has purdiase
agreements with three landowners.
10. OTHER BUSINESS
Public Works Director Brown reported that some windows have again been knocked out at the
Bad @er warming house. This y ear has seen an inordinate amount of damage to the park shelters. •
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Because we are nearing the end of the ice season, the Bader and Cathcart rinks will likely be closed
before the pond skating areas, partially due to the vandalism problem. Brown said he hopes that
this decision is not against the desire of the Park Commission and that the action will make a
statement to the comrrnunity. The City is taking steps internally in regard to security. One is to
increase p atrol time of the rink supervisor next season. Another may be to install a smaller window
at BadWr, which unfortunately reduces natural lighting and the visibility for rink attendants to keep
an ey e on the rink.
Themig suggested steel shutters on the exteriors of the buildings. Arnst suggsted an article in the
City newsletter about the problem. Colopoulos said that he is opposed to giving the impression
that we are letting vandals "win" by reducing access to parks for all other park users. Themig
sugEpsted offering a $100 reward for information leading to the conviction of a vandal. Puzak said
that if it is too late for this season, perhaps there should be a policy established for next season.
Z erby asked if there is sig uge which states p enalties for vandalism. Brown said not y et.
Arnst also noted that there is still a significant problem with pet owners not cleaning up after their
• pets and asked if the next newsletter could include a reminder about mutt mitts.
11. NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business. The M arch agenda will include discussion on the trail op en house, and
the athletic association policy along with more information from Comnxinity Services about the
amount of hours reserved for park facilities. Brown will also report on the status of the multi-use
building p lan.
12. ADJOURNMENT
Cochran moved, Colopoulos seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion passed 6/0. The
meeting adjourned at 10:27 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Connie Bastyr
Recording Secretary
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1999 "TO DO" LIST
DRAFT
• Multi- purpose building construction
=> Explore partnership with Senior Center /youth for operating concession stands
=* Consider nighttime lighting policy*
=> Consider liquor policies*
• First successful trail segment completed
• Approve and implement sports organizations policies
=> Create a written legal document that transfers ownership of improvements to the City
• Park Tours
• 2000 CIP
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• Comp Plan Review
Other ideas from Commission:
*These issues, among others yet to be identified, need to be considered as a pro - active measure.
They may arise as a result of the completion of a multi purpose, multi- season facility that will
invite more diverse use than the picnic shelter alone.
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To:
Park Commission
From:
Jim Hurm, City Administrator
Date:
January 28, 1999 J
Re:
Park Dedication Fees
In surveying some area cities staff has learned that we may want to consider increasing our
park dedication fees which are set by Resolution at $1,000 per unit (or lot). The survey is
enclosed. The Commission may wish to recommend an adjustment to the City Council.
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Minnetonka $700 /unit
Mound
10% of fair mkt value of 1 d
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$500/lot minimum
Orono
8% of fair mkt value of land
$4,900 maximum
Plymouth
$1,500 /unit residential •
$4,500 /acre C/I
Tonka Bay
$1,200 /unit in 1999'
$1,000 /unit in 1998
Victoria
Unknown
$1,500 /unit Park Imp Fee
Wayzata
SF 7% of fair mkt value of land
$450 min, $2,000 max/unit
MF 7% of fair mkt value of land
$300 /unit minimum
C/I 3.5 % of fair mkt value of land
Chanhassen
$1,200 Park/unit
$400 Trails /unit
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PARK
COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMB
TUESDAY, MARCH 23, < 1999 7 :30 P.M.
AGENDA
1.
CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Colopoulos
Puzak
Bensman
Dallman
Arnst
Themig
Cochran
B. Review Agenda
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Minutes of March 9, 1999 (Att. -#2 Draft Minutes)
3.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
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REPORTS:
5.
REVIEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO PARKS AND
TRAIL - BRAD NIELSEN
6.
DISCUSS DESIGN CONCEPT OF FREEMAN PARK MULTI-
PURPOSE BUILDING - LARRY BROWN
Action: A. Review Revisions to Drawing and Cost Estimates
B. Discussion/Questions
C. Develop Time Line
D. Other Steps and Issues
7.
REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF NEXT DRAFT OF ATHLETIC
ASSOCIATION POLICIES, FISCAL POLICIES AND PROPOSED
FORMULAS
Action: A. Go to Next Draft if Necessary, or Set Date/Format for Session
With Sports Organizations
8.
OTHER BUSINESS
9.
NEW BUSINESS
10.
ADJOURNMENT
Council Liaison:
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May • Cochran
CITY
OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK
COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL
CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, APRIL ` 13, 1999 7:34 P.M.
AGENDA
1.
CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
UNAFT
A. Roll Call
Bensman
Dallman
Amst
Themig
Cochran
B. Review Agenda
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Minutes of (Att. -#2 Draft Minutes)
3.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
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4.
REPORTS:
5.
REVIEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT RELATES TO PARKS AND
TRAILS - BRAD NIELSEN
6.
DISCUSS DESIGN CONCEPT OF FREEMAN
PARK MULTI-
PURPOSE BUILDING
7.
TRAIL PLANNING PROCESS
8.
OTHER BUSINESS
9.
NEW BUSINESS
19.
ADJOURNMENT
Council Liaison:
Apr. - Colopoulos
May - Cochran
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March 4, 1-9-9-9
Dear Shorewood Park Commissioners,
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My neighbors. and I would like to invite the Park Gommission to consider our
neighborhood for the first "successful" segment of the sldewalk/trail in
Shorewood. We would like you to consider the portion of Smithtown Road
from Strawberry Lane to Lake Virginia Drive. As you may know, one of my
campaign positions was for safe pedestrian walkways in our city. I continue to
support that concept. In fact, I am willing to have such a walkway in my own
yard.
Each of the neighbors who has joined me in supporting safe walkways in signing
this letter has property adjoining Smithtown Road. We are excited about the
inclusive process the Park Commission is using, and the possibilities it offers for
safer enjoyment of our community.
I am wUling to assist you in any way possible in coordinating a neighborhood
walk - through. Let's make this something we can all be proud of and feel that
sense of ownership. We look forward to your discussion of our proposal at
your March 9,1999 meeting.
hris Lizee 27055 Smithtown Road 470 -5338
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February 14, 1999
Petition of Howard's Point Road Residents Against Trails
We, the homeowners and residents of Howard's Point Road are against the Park
Commission's "idea" of paving a trail thru our neighborhood. We are against the
proposal of any trail for the following reasons: The increased urbanization of our
neighborhood, the sure decline in our property values, the increase of litter onto our
properties, increased traffic thru our neighborhood, increased noise pollution,
increased potential for vandalism of our properties, the increased speed of motorized
traffic, eventual increased tax burden on all Shorewood residents thru trail
maintenance and patrol fees, and greater potential for snowmobile use and abuse.
We believe the trail proposal is a step in the wrong direction for a neighborhood that
enjoys the rural Shorewood peace and quiet, and fully intends for it to stay that way.
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6100 Rampart Ct
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Sue Davis
5495 Valleywood Cir
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Javier /Carrie Barberena
5775 Brentridge Dr
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Robin Dodson/Mark Pleaka
26540 W 62nd St
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Geoff Glueckstein
6105 McKinley Cir
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Gordon Linstrom
23680 McLain Rd
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Tom Schmidt
Smithtown Rd
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Barbara Thibault 14565
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Dave & Lindy Hanson
5920 Covington Rd
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Bob & Kirstin Slaney
5900 Covington Rd
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David Leighton
27150 Ed ewood Rd
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Ron Johnson
5355 Shady Hill Circle
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Steve & Margaret Johnson
5845 Howards Pt Rd
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Mary Borgeson
5485 Grant Lorenz Rd
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Carol Hedge
Ed ewood Rd
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Mark & Judy Graham
5565 Howards Pt Rd
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Donna Woodruff
4485 Highland Circle
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James Robin
23420 Park Street
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Shelia Kra ness
6185 Mill Street
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Leonard & Nancy George
25180 Smithtown Rd
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Paul & Dana Hirsch
24590 Smithtown Rd
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Edward & Elizabeth Snyder
26640 Smithtown Rd
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Spring to visit with neighbors about ideas and opportunities. Which time
would work best for you if there is a "trail walk" on your street?
®Tuesday 6:30 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.(approximate)
[]Saturday during the day
Which potential trail are you most concerned about?
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Dear Shorewood Park Commissioners,
• My neighbors- and 1 would like to invite the Park Commission to. consider our
neighborhood for the first "succ,assful" segment cf the sidewalk/tr ciI in
Shorewood. We would like you to consider the portion of Smithtown Road
from Strawberry Lane to Lake Virginia Drive. As you may know, one army
campaign positions was for safe pedestrian walkways in our city. I continue to
support that concept In fact, I am willing to have such a walkway in my own
yard.
Each of the neighbors who has joined me in supporting safe walkways in signing
this letter has. property adjoining Smithtown Road. We are excited about the
inclusive process the Park Commission is using, and the possibilities it offers for
safer enjoyment of our community.
I am willing to assist you in any way possible in coardinafing an eighborho Od
walk - through. Let's make this something we can all be proud of and feel that
sense of ownership. We look forward to your discussion of our proposal at
your March -9, 19-99 meeting. "
S' erely,
kris Lizee 27055 Smithtown Road 470 -5338
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