PC-01-05-10
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, 5 JANUARY 2010 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Geng called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Geng; Commissioners Hutchins, Ruoff, Vilett, Gagne, and Hasek; Planning Director
Nielsen; and Council Liaison Turgeon
Absent: Commissioner Arnst
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 1, 2009
Gagne moved, Hutchins seconded, Approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of
December 1, 2009 as presented. Motion passed 6/0.
1. 7:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING – FEES ASSOCIATED WITH ZONING APPLICATIONS
Director Nielsen explained that the City’s fee schedule is reviewed on an annual basis and revised as
appropriate. Last year, for example, the Park Dedication fee was increased at the recommendation of the
Park Commission.
Recently, the processing of a Zoning application made it evident that the current fee for a Zoning Code
Text or Map Amendment appears to be too low relative to the expenses incurred on behalf of such
requests. In the case of this particular application, much of the expense was due to the City Attorney’s
time necessary for the application.
Nielsen stated that staff’s proposal is to leave the current flat fee of $600 as is, but to add on a $1000
escrow. This way, if the City’s expenses for processing a request exceed the flat fee, the escrow can be
used to cover the remainder. Any unused escrow is refundable. Furthermore, the application form that is
signed by the applicant contains an acknowledgement and agreement to pay all statements received from
the City pertaining to additional application expenses.
Commissioner Hasek questioned how Shorewood would handle the situation that occurred between the
City of Excelsior and a developer who was disputing responsibility for expenses involved in a potential
proposal. Director Nielsen explained that Shorewood’s practice is to get an estimate of costs, and require
an escrow based on that estimate. The Planning Department is responsible for tracking the on-going
expenses, and acquire additional funds as needed from the applicant. Council Liaison Turgeon pointed
out that in the Excelsior case, the City had no formal application from the developer for the project. She
didn’t believe Shorewood would go forward with a project without an application in place. Director
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Nielsen concurred and said even though people would sometimes like to go before the Commission
informally, such as under Matters from the Floor, the Commission would not have enough information to
make any type of decision without the data that is collected as part of the application process.
Seeing no one present to be heard, Chair Geng opened and closed the Public Testimony portion of the
Public Hearing at 7:11 P.M.
Hutchins moved, Vilett seconded, recommending that the fee for Zoning Amendments be adjusted
by adding a $1000 escrow to the existing $600 flat fee. Motion passed 6/0.
2. DISCUSSION OF 2010 WORK PROGRAM/MEETING SCHEDULES
Director Nielsen provided a rough draft hand-out that lays out the tasks that were presented in the
preliminary Work Program memo. The tasks were listed in priority order and given a rough time-frame.
He stated he plans to produce a more refined chart with some definite details and timelines assigned to the
tasks. He stated that, for instance, one of the items is a study of Life-Cycle Housing. He noted that that
discussion will hinge somewhat on what comes out of the Planning Inventory discussion which will
include demographic and housing information that will be useful in making decisions about the Life-
Cycle Housing issues.
Nielsen reviewed the items of study coming up in the next few months. In January, besides the In-House
Training Program, there will be the annual variance discussion (on tonight’s agenda). For February, staff
will prepare an Intro to the Comp Plan for the Commission’s review, start the Planning Inventory
discussion, deer-management issues, and begin review of the Co. Rd. 19/Smithtown Crossing area
redevelopment – which could include life-cycle housing. In March there will be a Public Hearing
regarding Zoning Permits, and discussion regarding nonconformities in April.
Meeting schedules were discussed as some dates are affected by holidays and other events. The next
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meeting will be January 19. In February, due to the Precinct Caucus on the 2, the Commission agreed
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to meet on February 16 for that month.
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For months affected by holidays, such as July 4, Memorial and Labor Days, the Regular meetings on the
first Tuesday of the affected month will be held the second Tuesday of that month instead, but only as
necessary depending on the receipt of any applications. Study Sessions, which are held on the third
Tuesday of the month will remain as is, except for June (since it has five Tuesdays this year), the June
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Study Session will be June 22.
ZONING ORDINANCE DISCUSSION – VARIANCES
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Director Nielsen stated that variances are discussed on a regular annual basis because it seems to be what
Planning Commissioners, and Council members struggle with the most. Plus the applicants tend to feel
passionately that they deserve some type of exception – which is what a variance really is, an exception to
a law.
Nielsen said that one of the things to watch out for in variance requests is setting precedence. Variances
granted that are not warranted, that don’t meet the hardship criteria can effectively result in amending the
Zoning Code. If variances that are granted are unique from one another, as they should be, this may not
present a problem with precedence. But a number of variances approved for the same thing can set a
pattern of precedence – and that must be watched carefully.
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The first step in a variance application is to meet with staff to discuss the merits of the case and its
feasibility. If the request does not appear to be based on hardship, as required by Code, the applicant is
informed of this. Nielsen estimated that probably only one out every four or more applicants decide to go
forward with their application after learning about the criteria. Therefore, variances that actually come
before the Commission are being requested by people who feel very strongly about their plans, or have a
case where a variance is actually warranted.
Commissioner Vilett asked if the typical variance request is due to financial reasons. Nielsen responded
that many of them can be, but more often than not it’s aesthetics, more so than financial considerations.
Nielsen stated that not all situations are even applicable for a variance. “Use” variances are actually
illegal in Minnesota. A use variance is where someone would like to create something that is not a
permitted or conditional use in their zoning district. For example, if someone wanted to convert their
single-family home into a two-family dwelling in a Single-Family Zoning District, this is a use of the land
not permitted, and a variance may not even be applied for. In this case, the alternative would be a Code
Text Amendment, or rezoning request.
The hardship criterion in Shorewood’s Zoning Code is based on State Statute and contains three elements.
The applicant must demonstrate undue hardship due to 1) the property cannot be put to a reasonable use;
2) the plight is due to circumstances unique to the property and was not created by the owner (past or
present); and 3) the variance should not alter the essential character of the locality. Nielsen stated that all
three conditions must be met, not just one or two of them.
Nielsen noted that Shorewood has granted variances quite sparingly, and those that have been approved
met all of the hardship requirements. He cited various cases that were not justified for one reason or
another, including one applicant who sued the City over denial of his variance request. That case was
ruled in favor of the City.
Nielsen said one of the first questions to ask when considering a variance is “can it be done without a
variance?” For instance, if an addition to a building can be designed in such a way to achieve the
additional space without putting it in the setback, then there is no hardship and a variance isn’t warranted.
Nielsen stated another consideration that is a struggle to deal with is determining if a property has been
put to reasonable use. A good example is swimming pools. Would granting a variance to allow room for
a swimming pool be making reasonable use of the property, and is it a hardship not to have one?
There was discussion about the criteria that refers to the “owner” creating the circumstances causing
hardship. Nielsen noted that the Code needs to be clarified so that it is clear that it means any owner at
any point in time who created the conditions as they exist on a property today.
Nielsen said that sometimes an applicant for a variance will provide letters and petitions from their
neighbors supporting their request. This is when the Planning Commission and Council needs to look not
just at an immediate neighborhood, but at the City as a whole when it comes to granting variances that
may alter the character of the locality
Vilett questioned if there should be separate zoning regulations for older properties that do not conform to
current standards. Nielsen replied that in the mid-eighties the Zoning Code was updated in an attempt to
appropriately zone the majority of parcels within a zoning boundary in order to minimize the number of
nonconformities. Also around that time, the Code was relaxed for nonconforming structures so that they
could be expanded as long as the addition is located within the buildable area of the lot.
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Nielsen stated that alternatives to variances include amending the Code, and Conditional Use Permits –
which he said is a good tool as an alternative.
4.IN-HOUSE TRAINING
Nielsen said that John Shardlow, with Government Training Services (GTS) will present the training
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program on Saturday, January 30. The morning sessions will include “Basics of Planning & Zoning”,
and “Your Role as Planning Commission Member”. The afternoon session will be “Beyond the Basics of
Planning & Zoning”. Nielsen said if there are any topics the Commission would like addressed he can
ask Mr. Shardlow to keep them in mind.
Nielsen said other Cities will be invited to attend. The program will be held at the SouthShore
Community Center with registration at 8:00 A.M. The program will run from 8:30 A.M. to 3:30 P.M.
with a one-half hour break for lunch, which will be provided. Approximately 50 – 75 people are
anticipated to attend.
Commissioner Hasek said he would like to learn more about how sustainability fits into planning and
zoning practices. He said he would also like to know how Robert’s Rules of Order applies to a Planning
Commission.
Commissioner Hutchins noted that the session “Redefining the Development Process” would be valuable
in relation to the Co. Rd. 19 redevelopment area study, in dealing with the marinas, and for identifying
other key issues that LGUs need to be aware of. Nielsen agreed and said he would pass that on to Mr.
Shardlow. He noted that even though Mr. Shardlow doesn’t normally present that program, perhaps he
could touch on some of its key points.
Geng suggested there be an informal Q & A at the end of the program.
5. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
None.
6. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
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Director Nielsen stated the January 19 meeting will include information regarding the Smithtown
Crossing area redevelopment; discussion about deer management; and more detail for the 2010 Work
Program.
7. REPORTS
Liaison to Council
Commissioner Gagne said that he attended the last Council meeting, but there was nothing relative to the
Planning Commission to report on.
SLUC
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Commissioner Vilett said she will attend the next SLUC program on January 27 entitled “New
Year/New Economy”.
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Director Nielsen informed the Commission that due to budgetary constraints, there may be a point where
the City’s ability to cover the cost of the SLUC meetings will be very limited.
Other
None.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Hasek moved, Ruoff seconded, Adjourning the Planning Commissiom Meeting of January 5, 2010 at
8:36 P.M. Motion passed 6/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Patti Helgesen, Recorder