02-16-16 Planning Comm Agenda
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, 16 FEBRUARY 2016 7:00 P.M.
A G E N D A
CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL / (LIAISON) SCHEDULE
DAVIS (Feb) ______
RIEDEL (tbd) ______
MADDY (May) ______
BEAN (Jun) ______
JOHNSON (Apr) ______
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
5 January 2016
1. PUBLIC HEARING – C.U.P. – FILL IN EXCESS OF 100 CUBIC YARDS
Applicant: Gloria Aanenson
Location: 19325 Waterford Place
2. PUBLIC HEARING – REVISED DEVELOPMENT STAGE PLAN – MINNETONKA
COUNTRY CLUB P.U.D.
Applicant: Mattamy Homes
Location: 24575 Smithtown Road
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. OLD BUSINESS / NEW BUSINESS
5. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
6. REPORTS
Liaison to Council
SLUC
Other
7. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, JANUARY 5, 2016 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Vice-Chair Davis called the meeting to order at 7:03 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Geng; Vice-Chair Davis; Commissioners Bean, Johnson and Maddy; Planning
Director Nielsen; and, Council Liaison Sundberg
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Geng moved, Maddy seconded, approving the agenda for January 5, 2016, as presented. Motion
passed 5/0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
December 1, 2015
Geng moved, Bean seconded, approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of December 1,
2015, as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
1. CONSENT AGENDA
Director Nielsen noted that this is the first time the Planning Commission agenda included a Consent
Agenda. He explained that Council almost always has a consent item on its agenda for its regular
meetings. The consent agenda is for minor items. Tonight’s Consent Agenda includes two petitions for an
extension of a conditional use permit (C.U.P.). Both petitioners submitted their requests before the
expiration of their original approval. Staff considers both requests to be reasonable. Staff anticipated that
the applicant for two houses on one lot would ask for an extension at the time the original C.U.P. was
granted. If a Planning Commissioner has questions about an item on the consent agenda the protocol
would be to remove it from the consent agenda for discussion and then vote on whether or not to
recommend approval of the item separately.
Bean moved, Maddy seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent Agenda.
A. Petition for Extension of Conditional Use Permit Approval
Petitioner: Jesse Kath
Location: 25025 Yellowstone Trail
B. Petition for Extension of Conditional Use Permit Approval
Petitioner: Todd Cebulla
Location: 5530 Vine Hill Road
Motion passed 5/0.
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2. PUBLIC HEARING – ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING L-R DISTRICT
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT
Applicant: Shorewood Yacht Club (Gabriel Jabbour)
Location: 23500 Smithtown Road
Vice-Chair Davis opened the Public Hearing at 7:06 noting the procedures used in a Public Hearing. She
explained the Planning Commission is comprised of residents of the City of Shorewood who are serving
as volunteers on the Commission. The Commissioners are appointed by the City Council. The
Commission’s role is to help the City Council in determining zoning and planning issues. One of the
Commission’s responsibilities is to hold public hearings and to help develop the factual record for an
application and to make a non-binding recommendation to the City Council. The recommendation is
advisory only. She stated this evening the Planning Commission is going to consider an amendment to a
conditional use permit (C.U.P.) for the Shorewood Yacht Club (owned by Gabriel Jabbour), 23500
Smithtown Road
Director Nielsen explained Mr. Jabbour, owner of the Shorewood Yacht Club (SYC) located at 23500
Smithtown Road, has requested that the existing C.U.P. under which the Yacht Club operates be amended
to remove the restriction on the number of power boats that may be docked at the site. There is a lot of
history associated with the property. In 2007 the SYC was granted an interim C.U.P. that allowed the
SYC to keep more power boats at its dock slips. In 2011 the then Council approved a permanent C.U.P.
largely because of how things went during the there-year trial period. The permanent C.U.P. allowed the
SYC to keep up to 52 power boats [in addition to five previously approved] at dock slips located at pier
#3 and pier #4. The SYC had asked to be able to keep up to 50 percent power boats at its 117 slips. The
remaining slips were to be for sail boats.
Mr. Jabbour proposes to reconstruct the existing dock configuration which would enhance safety by
providing for wider walkways and by replacing deteriorating dock structures. He would like to build
“universal docks” that would accommodate either sail or power boats. Before making that investment he
asked that the restriction on the number of power boats be removed to allow for more flexibility. He
intends to continue to run a sailing operation. His request is outlined in his e-mail dated December 21,
2015, (a copy of which was included in the meeting packet). Copies of aerial photos of the property were
also included in the packet.
Nielsen noted that Mr. Jabbour was present.
Gabriel Jabbour, owner of the Shorewood Yacht Club, noted his daughter Georgette was present as well.
He commented that when the SYC was first conceived there used to be thousands of sail boats on Lake
Minnetonka. For his previous application there were hundreds that were not housed at racing yacht clubs.
He explained that one of his companies has owned the SYC property for 10 years and during that period
there has not been a single resident complaint about the marina. His hope is it will continue to be that
way. He noted he has no immediate need to change the docks. He explained that while making
improvements to some of the SYC’s docks it has become very clear that the docks should not have been
constructed the way they were. Walking on the docks is somewhat like walking a plank. The electrical
and the site in general need to be improved. He does not envision a drastic change in the ratio of sail boats
to power boats. The SYC’s owners have a strong moral and financial commitment to those who supported
the changes to its C.U.P. the last time. The owners of the SYC have equipment which cost hundreds of
thousands of dollars that is biased towards sail boats. Also, the SYC does not want to turn away 60 – 70
sail boat owners who want to rent dock slips from the SYC. This year there is a group of people who are
going to be a sailing in different parts of the world so five or six of the Club members will not be coming
back. Next year there could be sailors who are visiting.
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He stated life is cyclical. At one time there may have been a reason to limit the number of power boats
because residents living near that part of Lake Minnetonka did not want them there.
He then stated he is finding more and more residents in the community who would like to dock their boats
at the SYC. The SYC has voluntarily offered a discount to Shorewood residents who rent a slip at the
SYC. It has also offered the same discount to Shorewood residents who have to rent a slip at another
marina he owns because there was no room for them at the SYC for an interim period. He anticipates the
Minnetonka Country Club development will generate more desire to rent slips for power boats at the
SYC. He clarified he has no intention to ask a current renter to leave or to not give bias to a sail boat
owner. But, if there are ten empty slips he does not see a reason why a power boat owner cannot rent one.
He went on to state if the City were to remove the restriction on where the power boats have to dock it
would give him the option to mingle power boats and sail boats. He commented that slip renters don’t
want to move their boat from one slip to another very often. He noted the lease document does stipulate
that the SYC has the right to move a renter to a different slip.
He thanked staff, the Planning Commission and City Council for the trust it had placed in the SYC
owners and managers. He hopes that people believe that they have lived up to their promises. He stated
that he thought they have improved the site significantly. He explained the business plan for the SYC is to
reduce the density on land. The intent is to have less density while maintaining revenues. He encouraged
the Planning Commissioners to drive through the site and see the reduction of density on land.
Mr. Jabbour offered to entertain questions from the Commissioners.
Vice-Chair Davis asked if all of the docks will be replaced. Mr. Jabbour responded he is not sure when
that will happen. Some slips have been rebuilt but the next time that needs to be done he wants to replace
an entire pier at a time.
Mr. Jabbour noted that in one area there had been three layers of walkway on land. He stated he thought
the best approach would be to remove piers and replace them and to replace the electrical at the same
time. He noted that in 2014 when the level of Lake Minnetonka was so high he was very concerned about
leaving power on to the slips. He was at the site frequently to check on things. He stated over the last 10
years new technologies have come to market to make monitoring easier. He noted that the SYC has no
plans to migrate away from sail boats. He also noted that the SYC is the only site around the Lake, except
for Sailor World which has three to four boats, which can handle the number of slip rentals for sail boats
that the SYC can.
Vice-Chair Davis asked if the SYC needs a permit to rebuild its docks. Director Nielsen explained the
Lake Minnetonka Conservation District (LMCD) has authority over the placement of the docks and the
City has the opportunity to approve them. Mr. Jabbour noted that the SYC would not do anything without
copying the City on what it submits to the LMCD.
Mr. Jabbour encouraged people to look at the marina he owns on St. Alban’s Bay. One hundred percent
of the docks were replaced.
Commissioner Bean recognized Mr. Jabbour for being one of the best stewards of Lake Minnetonka in
the entire Lake area.
Bean stated he understood Mr. Jabbour to indicate there has been a decline in sail boating and he asked if
that is why he would like the SYC have more flexibility with the number of power boat owners that can
rent slips at the SYC. He asked him what he thought the increase in the slip rental for power boats would
be.
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Mr. Jabbour commented that he remembers when marina staff changed oil and spread the oil on the
gravel. He stated, for example, if the SYC would lose 30 renters because they wanted to sail around the
world he thought the SYC could be able to rent one-half or one-fourth of the slips to owners of sail boats.
He noted that his staff at the SYC only knows about maintaining and repairing sail boats and all of its
storage is for sail boats. He also noted that the SYC gives priority to sail boats and to Shorewood
residents. He reiterated that the discount it gives to Shorewood residents is voluntary. He stated if the
SYC experiences a loss in revenue he would likely have to cover the loss for a while. But, he would like
to have the flexibility to maintain that revenue.
Commissioner Bean stated he thought it would be nice to provide the residents in that area a sense of
what Mr. Jabbour thought might happen at the SYC over the next few years. Mr. Jabbour guaranteed that
over the next two years nothing will happen but he is not sure what will happen over the next 10, 20 or 30
years.
Bean asked Director Nielsen to display the aerial photo of the SYC included in the meeting packet. He
then asked Mr. Jabbour if the configuration of the docks would remain relatively the same.
Mr. Jabbour stated that the number of slips the SYC can have is limited by the C.U.P. The lengths are
limited by LMCD regulations. The LMCD has recently changed the lengths for a qualified marina (which
the SYC is) so the length could be up to 200 feet. Director Nielsen stated he thought the length is less
than 200 feet today.
Commissioner Bean stated that at the St. Alban’s Bay marina the platform on the docks was widened.
Vice-Chair Davis stated as part of her job she was involved with redoing another municipality’s docks
and the LMCD allowed alterations as long as the original footprint remained the same.
Mr. Jabbour disclosed that he is Orono’s representative on the LMCD Board.
Vice-Chair Davis asked what the SYC’s vacancy rate was in 2015. Mr. Jabbour noted there were no
vacancies and the SYC had a waiting list for slip rentals.
Mr. Jabbour stated in 2008 there were 357,000 boats manufactured in the United States. In 2009 158,000
were manufactured. The manufacturing rate is starting to trend upward now. He commented that he
knows that because he works very closely with the ABYC (American Boat and Yacht Council) on how to
redesign boats to make it easier to remove aquatic invasive species (AIS) from them.
Vice-Chair Davis asked what the largest size power boat is that could be docked at a SYC rental slip. Mr.
Jabbour stated that how the length of a boat is measured has changed such that an old 28-foot-long boat is
now considered to be 32 feet long.
Mr. Jabbour pointed to where he would like to have a handicap accessible structure on the aerial photo.
Commissioner Bean stated that under the current C.U.P. power boats have to be docked at the first two
piers. Director Nielsen clarified piers #3 and #4. He then stated he understood Mr. Jabbour to be asking
for flexibility to dock power boats and sail boats anywhere.
Mr. Jabbour explained the maneuverability of boats varies and therefore it would be helpful to dock boats
in certain slips based on the maneuverability.
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In response to a comment from Commissioner Bean, Mr. Jabbour explained the slip rental contract
stipulates that if a person violates certain rules their contract is voided and their boat will be removed
from the water by SYC staff and the owner cannot get their boat until they pay the rental fee for the entire
season. Commissioner Johnson asked if that includes violating wake restrictions. Mr. Jabbour clarified he
cannot control that; it is a criminal violation and not a civil violation.
Mr. Jabbour stated SYC staff tells slip renters that the SYC and renters are guests in the area. He then
stated SYC staff explains the buoys’ significance in the waters near the SYC to renters.
Commissioner Bean stated that some of the letters submitted by residents expressed concern that the
increase in boat traffic would generate more and/or larger wakes in waters surrounded by fragile shoreline
until the boats pass the small island there. There could be potential that additional power boat traffic could
create a more volatile situation for the shoreline. Mr. Jabbour stated he disagreed 100 percent.
Mr. Jabbour explained that he personally took issue with the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
(DNR) about public access. The DNR wanted every boat in Minnesota to have access to a public access.
The LMCD did a survey and found out that on the peak day (Fourth of July) 20 – 24 percent of the boats
are out on the Lake. On a Thursday evening during the summer on Wayzata Bay 100 percent of the boats
docked at Wayzata Bay Yacht Club are out on the water participating in a race. He stated that he
understands that sail boats cannot make the same size wake as power boats; it is irresponsible boat drivers
that cause the larger wakes. The SYC is in a financial position where it does not need to rent to boat
owners who break the rules.
Commissioner Bean stated that all of the sail boats being out on Wayzata Bay does not generate the
amount of wake that one 30-foot-long Sea Ray does. Mr. Jabbour agreed provided the Sea Ray was not
putting around.
Mr. Jabbour noted that SYC staff asks power boaters to keep their wakes to a minimum when near the
SYC. He then noted that because there have been no complaints over 10 years about power boaters whose
boats were docked at the SYC they must be doing something right.
Vice-Chair Davis asked if the SYC has ever evicted a renter. Mr. Jabbour responded yes.
Commissioner Johnson asked what percent of the sail boats docked at the SYC participate in races. Mr.
Jabbour stated the SYC has a good racing club and commented that the former mayor tells him how good
they do. The Club changed its name for liability reasons. Last year it had five races and the most
participation was five boats and usually three boats. Johnson stated that confirms Mr. Jabbour’s earlier
remarks about the decline in sail boating. Mr. Jabbour stated the decline in sail boats has been in the
thousands. He then stated the SYC used to hire someone for the judges’ boat at the SYC. That was
stopped four years ago because that boat went out twice a year. Johnson stated from his perspective part
of the reason for the decline in sail boats on Lake Minnetonka is the number of power boats because
power boats inherently change the way a sail boat races in the water. Mr. Jabbour stated in 2004 there was
a major reduction at the peak time for boats being out. In response to a question from Johnson, Mr.
Jabbour clarified that was for power boats.
Mr. Jabbour stated he is very excited about the Minnetonka Yacht Club’s sailing school.
Commissioner Bean stated that irrespective of the mix of power boats and sail boats he thought he heard
Mr. Jabbour indicate that there would not be any change to onshore services provided. For example, there
is no plan for a gas dock. Mr. Jabbour clarified the SYC has changed the services it provides on shore. He
eliminated the store two years ago, he eliminated services, he removed all of the unnecessary buildings
and he downsized the number of employees. He compared it to going from being a hotel to a motel. Mr.
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Jabbour stated that last year the SYC hired the Coast Guard Axillary to teach people how to use their
boats. Bean asked if Mr. Jabbour plans on keeping the operation downsized. Mr. Jabbour stated at this
time that is his plan.
Commissioner Johnson asked how many vehicle parking spaces are on the site. Mr. Jabbour stated he
does not know the answer to that offhand and noted that there has never been a parking problem which is
why he does not know that answer. He thought the SYC had a lot more parking than other marinas have.
He clarified he does not know what Shorewood’s ordinance requires but he was confident it was not one
space per slip.
Johnson stated the City has an ordinance that stipulates the character of the site has to be primarily for
sailing. He asked if there is a way to give the SYC more flexibility while continuing to keep it primarily
for sailing. He then asked if it would help the SYC if he were able to put power boats in any slip. Mr.
Jabbour stated no.
Mr. Jabbour stated sail boats enter from the middle and power boats are entered from the rear. Also, sail
boats require very little electricity. To rebuild things just for flexibility is not a good idea.
Commissioner Johnson stated when the docks are rebuilt he asked if there would still be some docks that
are just for power boats. Mr. Jabbour clarified he would like to rebuild it so that power boats or sail boats
could use most slips.
Mr. Jabbour stated there are some long-keeled sail boats. They have to be docked way out. There are
times it would be very helpful to ask a power boat owner to move to a new slip so that type of sail boat
could be docked in that slip.
Mr. Jabbour questioned if the City’s ordinance still applies. He clarified that the SYC is primarily a sail
boat place. He explained that the SYC had a problem last year when one renter allowed kids to jump off
the docks. That is not allowed. He also lost some renters when he would not allow a club to rent slips and
have people he did not know use them.
Ms. Georgette Jabbour made some comments that could not be clearly heard on the recording.
Director Nielsen explained that the site plan from 2007 indicated there were 115 parking spaces and he
thought that is in compliance with the City’s Ordinance. The SYC has land along Country Road 19 but he
is not sure how much that is used. Vice-Chair Davis stated based on what she looked at it appears that
parking is allowed for SYC boaters in the empty space up at Lucky’s Station. Mr. Jabbour clarified that is
for the Excel Boat Club which now has a different name. Mr. Jabbour noted that since 2007 he has
purchased the Minnetonka Portable Dredging Company’s land. Mr. Jabbour stated that even on the
Fourth of July when people pulled onto the SYC’s land to watch fireworks there was not a problem with
parking.
Vice-Chair Davis opened the Pubic Testimony Portion of the Public Hearing at 7:47 P.M.
Troy Stottler, 23620 Smithtown Road, noted his property is the closest residential property to the SYC
and that he thought Mr. Jabbour has been a wonderful person for the Lake Minnetonka area. He stated he
does not hear much noise generated on the SYC property or marina that is not drowned out by the noise
from traffic on Country Road 19. He then stated more noise is generated on the Lake Minnetonka LRT
Regional Trail than at Mr. Jabbour’s marina. He went on to state that things change and people have to
adapt. Mr. Jabbour should be able to run a profitable business and to continue helping the City and Lake
Minnetonka area out. He thought that if the City continues to limit the number of power boats that can be
docked at the SYC marina and if he wanted to rent a slip for a power boat but the allocated number of
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slips for power boats were all rented then the limitation would be problematic for him yet he pays taxes to
the City. He thought the SYC should be able to dock any type of boat at any of the slips; that is what the
marina is for. He noted that his property does not front the Lake and that he cannot afford property that
fronts the Lake. He stated he thought Mr. Jabbour’s request would be a win for every one and that he
would not have an issue if all the slips were rented to power boat owners.
Vice-Chair Davis closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:51 P.M.
Commissioner Johnson asked Director Nielsen what the original reason was for the restriction on power
boats was and how things have evolved.
Director Nielsen explained the marina was originally proposed as a sailing yacht club and noted that was
before he worked for the City. It came in under a C.U.P. under old Ordinance number 77 which allowed
yacht clubs in a residential zoning district. The application was contentious and the City fought it. It was
taken to court. The court ruled in favor of the owner because it was listed as a C.U.P. in the City’s
ordinance but there were no conditions associated with it. The applicant met all of the conditions of the
C.U.P. because there were none. The court told the City to grant the C.U.P. It operated as a yacht club for
a number of years. The SYC struggled after a while and Mr. Jabbour eventually bought it. Mr. Jabbour
continued to operate it as a sailing yacht club for a while. In 2007 the SYC requested the City allow the
SYC to rent out a certain number of slips for power boats. The C.U.P. was changed to allow a certain
number of slips for power boats for a three-year period of time to find out how things would work out. In
late 2010 the SYC submitted a request to make its interim C.U.P. permanent and increase the number of
slips that could be rented for power boats. That was approved in early 2011. The SYC could then rent 52
slips plus the original five approved for power boats.
Nielsen reiterated that there has not been a single resident complaint about boats docked at the SYC. He
noted the site has been cleaned up significantly since Mr. Jabbour bought it. He also noted the City is well
aware of Mr. Jabbour’s generosity of storing the Excelsior Fire District’s fire service boat for free at the
SYC. He thought Mr. Jabbour and his SYC have been a good neighbor over his ten years of ownership.
Commissioner Maddy commented that it has been pointed out that the power boats are restricted to the
two westerly piers. He explained the sail boats have to leave the marina and travel through the channel
because of their keels. It is not a necessity for the power boats to do that. He asked what the water depth is
at the two westerly piers. He also asked if there is a way to force the power boats to also use the channel
when leaving the marina area. Director Nielsen stated he knows there is a dredged channel and it would
make the most sense for all boats to use that. Maddy stated he has a neighbor who docks at boat at the
SYC on the far westerly side closest to shore and when leaving the area he cuts across even though it is
quite shallow. That boat generates a wake that likely flows onto someone’s yard. Commissioner Bean
stated when a boat is on the water that is under the LMCD’s or Hennepin County Sheriff’s Water Patrol’s
jurisdiction. Bean noted there is no posted restriction keeping boaters from going there. Maddy expressed
concern about making a decision about this when it cannot manage what happens after the boats leave the
dock slips. He questioned if the City should solicit input from the LMCD. Chair Geng stated he does not
think there is a need for LMCD input on the number and location of power boats.
Maddy stated the meeting packet contains a copy of a fax from 2007 regarding the LMCD’s Policy for
Establishment of Quiet Water Area on Lake Minnetonka. It refers to reasons why it would be beneficial to
establish quite water areas some including: the wash and wake damage to the shoreline, area too small for
general boating, normal wave action intensified by power boats, area is really an extended channel, and to
protect sail boat mooring areas. Because the LMCD has brought those types of things up it causes him to
be concerned.
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Chair Geng clarified that the document actually states that many reasons had been given as reasons for
requesting changes to quiet water areas. It does not state they are facts. Geng reiterated that once a boater
is out of the marina Shorewood has no control. He stated he does not think that in and of itself is a reason
to limit the number of power boats allowed at the marina. He then stated that drivers speed up and down
Country Club Road yet cars are not banned from traveling on that roadway. It is an enforcement issue. If
there is an enforcement issue on the water then residents need to bring those issues to the attention of the
proper authority and those authorities need to be responsive.
Vice-Chair Davis stated the Planning Commission had the same discussion about enforcement and
reporting the last time the SYC requested a change to its C.U.P.
Mr. Jabbour noted the LMCD has a process it follows to determine if an area should be designated as a
quiet water area; it is a study. He stated from his vantage point he thought the Water Patrol’s Lake
Minnetonka headquarters was established when the use of the Lake was different than it is today. The
Lower Lake is underserved by the Water Patrol. He explained that two years ago he approached the
Hennepin County Sherriff about leasing a slip for free at the SYC for a Water Patrol boat if they need it.
He stated you cannot manage boaters’ behaviors by limiting the number of slips for power boats. He
explained the SYC used to offer free sewage pumps for boats. That practice has been stopped thereby
reducing boat traffic. He thought the enforcement issue should be paid for by many people not just one
site. He clarified he is a strong proponent for safety and enforcement.
Chair Geng stated he appreciates Commissioner Johnson sharing his perspective about being a sail boater.
At the same time it is important for people to recognize there has been a significant decline in sail boaters
on Lake Minnetonka and throughout the nation.
Commissioner Johnson stated before making a change in the ratio and location of power boats he thought
it important to understand why the original restrictions were put in place. He does not think people will
ever know that. He commented that there continues to be a decline in the number of yacht clubs.
Chair Geng stated he thought it is important to recognize that change is a constant. He then stated that in
2014 when the water level in Lake Minnetonka was extremely high the wake restrictions put in place
made living near the Lake very nice because there was limited and slow boat traffic. Commissioner
Johnson stated it was great for sailing. Geng then stated the wakes generated by extremely large power
boats make it less pleasurable for boaters of smaller sized power boats. It is not just sail boaters that are
impacted. Johnson noted it is not just sailing versus power boating it is also big power boating versus
small power boating. He stated that in 1997 a 19-foot-long power boat was sufficient for use on Lake
Minnetonka; now a 35 – 40-foot-long boat is needed to keep from being bounced around by the wakes.
Commissioner Johnson stated one of the things he likes about allowing the SYC flexibility to mix and
match the location of power boats and sail boats is to get the power boaters to use the channel. He would
like the LMCD to let the City know if there are ways to promote the use of the channel. That would be
helpful to control wave action against the shoreline.
Chair Geng noted that he also thought that Mr. Jabbour is a good steward of Lake Minnetonka. He
explained that Mr. Jabbour has used his equipment to help pick up and remove trash from Big Island.
Three years ago he singlehandedly made an effort that culminated in a large meeting of boat builders held
in Las Vegas, Nevada, last spring to talk about how boat designs could be changed to help discourage the
transportation of AIS. Mr. Jabbour has been a leader in moving that forward and he has been a responsive
business owner in Shorewood. There has not been a complaint about the SYC operation in ten years.
Commissioner Maddy stated that because Lake Minnetonka has so many public access spots it
undermines people’s ability to control the types of boats used on the Lake. Independent of whether or not
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more power boats would be allowed at the SYC it will not change the fact the Lake is pretty much a
drunken playground for boaters of large power boats every weekend. He questioned Code Section
1201.24 Subd 10.d which states “Issuance of a license shall take into consideration the historic use of the
site under consideration with respect to the use of power boats.” He thought it odd to regulate a historic
use over a changing demographic. He does not think there is a benefit in doing that; it would regulate the
SYC out of business if there is not some flexibility. On the other hand Mr. Jabbour is operating the site
without the required parking; there should be 117 spaces. He acknowledged he must not need them
because he has never seen vehicles backed up to Smithtown Road. He suggested the Planning
Commission discuss the parking requirements at a future date. He stated there is not a dust free driveway
and that is stipulated in the 1201.24 Subd. 8.h. There are also other criteria in Section 1201.24 the
Commission should also discuss. He questioned if maybe the Ordinance was not up to date as opposed to
there being an operational problem.
Mr. Jabbour explained concrete slabs, the same as those used on access ramps, have been put down in
some areas where people drive. Dust suppressant material is used and it does work for 3 – 4 months
depending on rain and the volume of traffic. He has had samples of stormwater runoff taken and sent to a
lab to have it tested. He continues to try and improve the site. The Minnetonka Portable Dredging
Company has voluminous amounts of stuff coming to and from the site. He has increased the amount of
parking when compared to 10 years ago because he has removed buildings from the SYC site and turned
that into parking. He has trimmed overreaching vegetation back. He then stated he owns four marinas and
he did not realize that parking was an issue. Had he known that he would have done something about it.
Commissioner Bean suggested clarifying the ordinance relative to parking. He stated he is not sure any
marina has complied with it in the past.
Director Nielsen clarified the SYC’s parking is in compliance with the C.U.P. He explained the City Code
requires 115 spaces and the site plan shows 121 spaces.
Commissioner Bean stated the C.U.P. stipulated the power boats being kept at pier #4 cannot exceed 30
feet. He asked if that is still appropriate. Mr. Jabbour clarified if the docks are reconfigured pier #4 will
still have a 30-foot restriction.
Vice-Chair Davis asked if there is a way to accommodate Mr. Jabbour’s request and then revisit the City
Code at a later time. Director Nielsen responded yes.
Director Nielsen clarified the only thing being asked for is to change the restrictions on the number of
power boats. It does not change the restriction on the length of boats being docked at pier #4.
Mr. Jabbour thanked the Planning Commission for its time.
Geng moved, Davis seconded, recommending approval of the amendment to the Shorewood Yacht
Club’s conditional use permit to remove the restriction on the number of power boats and adding
the review of Zoning Code Section 1201.24 to the Planning Commission’s 2016 Work Program.
Motion passed 5/0.
Vice-Chair Davis closed the Public Hearing at 8:19 P.M.
3. PUBLIC HEARING – REVISED CONCEPT PLAN AND DEVELOPMENT STAGE
PLANS – MINNETONKA COUNTRY CLUB PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
(continued from December 1, 2015)
Applicant: Mattamy Homes
Location: 24575 Smithtown Road
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Vice-Chair Davis opened the Public Hearing at 8:21 P.M., noting the process will be the same as for the
previous item. She also noted the Hearing was continued from December 1, 2015. She stated this evening
the Planning Commission is going to continue its consideration of a revised concept plan and
Development Stage plans for the Minnetonka Country Club (MCC) Planned Unit Development (PUD) for
Mattamy Homes, 24575 Smithtown Road.
Director Nielsen explained that during the December 1 Public Hearing the Planning Commission heard
about the revised concept plan and the Development Stage plans, including the preliminary plat, for the
MCC PUD. The Commission had been provided with three staff reports regarding issues associated with
the Development Stage plans. They were: a planning report from him regarding the Development Stage
plans, a memorandum from Northwest Associated Consultants (NAC) that addressed environmental and
landscaping issues, and a letter from the City Engineer that addressed engineering (transportation and
utilities) issues. The three reports each contained a list of recommendations. Staff consolidated
recommendations into a spreadsheet and noted when each of the recommendations would be addressed
(i.e., R= resolved, FP = Final Stage plans; DA = Development Agreement; and, DC = Declaration of
Covenants or possibly all three). The spreadsheet also included remarks explaining what staff’s
recommendation is. The spreadsheet will serve as a punch list and used to ensure all items get addressed.
Commissioner Johnson recommended the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing be reopened
before the Planning Commission has its discussion.
Vice-Chair Davis reopened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:23 P.M.
Henry Miles, 24035 Mary Lake Trail, stated that during the December 1 meeting there was some
discussion about conveying some of the open space to property owners. He expressed concern about
doing that. He thought the goal was to keep as much of that open space as natural as possible.
Director Nielsen noted that has been a concern of staff. He explained the orphaned piece on the northwest
side of the site would not be usable by the public. Staff has suggested that in order to ensure the open
spaces remain as such that there be a conservation easement over all of the open space. If the orphaned
spaces can be conveyed to a property owner and if the property owner will maintain it in in a fashion
consistent with the conservation easement, that would be desired. Some property owners have expressed
an interest in doing that. He is not aware of any case where any of those potential owners could by virtue
of that gift of land re-subdivide their property. The conservation easement would dictate how the open
space needs to be maintained and what can be done on it. Staff has spoken with the developer about
preparing a landscape maintenance manual which would include how all of the open spaces are to be
maintained whether the space is public, owned by the homeowners association (HOA) or orphaned land
conveyed to property owners.
Mr. Miles stated that irrespective of how the orphan pieces are conveyed he asked if the conservation
easement is enforceable. Director Nielsen responded absolutely.
Mr. Miles then stated that his instincts tell him that the absorption statistics on sales are high. There is a
lot of house inventory in the market and interest will continue to gradually increase. There are some
indications that new home sales are slowing down somewhat. He asked if it would make sense to build
the development in more than three phases to avoid ending up with a large unsightly track of land because
it is partially developed. It is his understanding that Mattamy would sell a lot and then build on it. That
provides a certain amount of control for Mattamy. He questioned if staff and the Planning Commission
should have a conversation about that. Director Nielsen noted that came up during the Concept Stage plan
review by Council. Nielsen stated lots that were not actively being built upon would have to have some
type of vegetation cover on them. Mr. Miles stated he just wanted to ask if it warranted further
conversation.
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Whitley Mott, 24890 Yellowstone Trail, stated that sometimes it is difficult for residents to get access to
the final plans and what the Planning Commission tells Council. Therefore, residents have some concern
about the development of the outlots and particularly Outlot H. Director Nielsen stated there are graphics
that show what the landscaping will be for the public open spaces and that would or should be out on the
City’s website. The consultant recommended some of the eco turf “low mow” lawn be reduced a little and
be replaced with more natural vegetation. Mr. Mott stated one graphic indicates the land abutting his
property would be native buffer seeding (pollinator) and he expressed concern that would invade his
property. There had been discussion about having a buffer zone to a contiguous property to keep his
manicured lawn from turning into a native buffer seeding (pollinator). He does not want to have to battle
keeping native grasses from invading his property. That same issue was discussed with Nielsen about
trails and Nielsen indicated there would be a buffer zone along the trails. He noted that he has fought the
issue of snakes and field mice invading his property. Nielsen suggested having discussion about having
eco turf abutting Mr. Mott’s property. Mr. Mott stated he needs the Planning Commission to understand
how the development and landscaping of the outlots would impact his property and house.
Mr. Mott noted that Rick Packer, with Mattamy Homes, has been very helpful.
Director Nielsen noted that would be added to the spreadsheet punch list.
Vice-Chair Davis closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 8:34 P.M.
Chair Geng asked how the Planning Commission’s discussion should be structured.
Rick Packer, with Mattamy Homes, distributed an exhibit of the age-targeted units in the MCC
development showing the setbacks.
There was Planning Commission consensus to discuss each of the items listed in the MCC Development
Stage Recommendations Summary spreadsheet. They were broken into three sections – Planning Report,
NAC Report, and WSB Report. Director Nielsen explained each item on the spreadsheet and for each
item there was Planning Commission discussion.
Planning Report
1. Open spaces to be low maintenance/natural; mow trail edges and two small maintained turf areas.
Director Nielsen explained staff has discussed reducing the amount of eco turf “low mow” lawn to reduce
the amount of maintenance that has to be done. Staff does like the idea of a transition between residential
lots and the more natural area. Per the comments from Mr. Mott there is no reason the eco turf could not
be extended to Mr. Mott’s property line. The developer will prepare a landscape maintenance manual for
how the areas will be maintained by both the HOA (for the private open spaces) and the City (for the
public open spaces). Those items will be included in the final plans and the Development Agreement (it
will set forth the responsibility of the parties related to who maintains what). Outlot F on the northeast
corner of the development will be private open space and maintained by the HOA.
Commissioner Bean asked if the various colors used in exhibit MCC Open Space Groundcover Plan
reflect who will maintain what. Director Nielsen clarified the colors only indicate open space; not
necessarily who will be responsible for maintaining them. The list of the outlots does that. Bean then
asked if the letter designation of the outlots has been made consistent in all drawings. Nielsen explained
Outlot G had mistakenly been labeled that it would be owned by the City; that was corrected to indicate
that it will be conveyed to the owner of the adjoining property. And, Outlot F on the northeast corner now
indicates it will be private open space and maintained by the HOA. The remainder of Outlot F will
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probably be changed to Outlot G and so on down the line. Nielsen noted the preliminary plat outlots have
not been relabeled; that will be done for the final plat. Commissioner Johnson suggested that be added to
the punch list of things to do.
Bean then asked Nielsen to expound upon the conservation easement for the open spaces. Are the details
for that known yet? Nielsen explained the conservation easement states the open space will remain as
such with some of it being owned and maintained by the City, other parts being owned and maintained by
the HOA, and in the case of the westerly lot that will be conveyed to owners of the adjoining properties
yet have a conservation easement over it. That land would not end up as a property owner’s rear yard. The
Declaration of Covenants will include the landscape maintenance manual which will indicate how that
land would be maintained.
Commissioner Johnson stated one of the property owners who may have land conveyed to them had
expressed reservation about accepting the land because it would increase their property taxes yet the use
of it would be restricted. Director Nielsen stated that individual should not accept the land if they have
reservations. Nielsen clarified because there would be a conservation easement on the conveyed land it
would not increase the value of that person’s property very much. Commissioner Bean asked what
happens if a property owner does not accept the land. Nielsen explained that the original intent was for
the HOA to take care of the orphaned pieces of land.
Mr. Packer reviewed options for the Outlot I which would basically be to convey the land to property
owners west of the Outlot or have the HOA be responsible for that.
Commissioner Bean asked why a property owner would want to accept an outlot if there would be
restrictions on how it could be used and if it would increase their property taxes by some amount. Mr.
Packer stated one property owner has landscape plans for enhancing an outlot and clarified that person
would not manicure the outlot. That owner would make it easier for his children to get to the sidewalk
abutting the development and within the development or to parks. He clarified he is not an appraiser.
Bean stated if the owners of properties abutting Outlot I accepted the land the three owners could possibly
maintain the conveyed property differently. Director Nielsen reiterated the maintenance manual will
specify how that open space has to be maintained. He stated they would not be able to store things on that
land nor manicure the lawns; the land would have to be kept in its natural state. Bean asked why the City
would not want to maintain control of the outlots to ensure the land would be maintained the same way.
Nielsen stated because the orphaned pieces would not be available for use by the public. The pieces the
City has agreed to maintain will be available for use by the public. Mr. Packer stated most of the land has
scattered trees on it and are golf course rough areas. Mr. Packer commented that if Mattamy were to deed
the land to property owners Mattamy would likely require that the land be mowed three times a season.
He also commented that owning a small piece of vacant land is not worth it.
Mr. Packer noted Outlot A is predominantly wetland. He also noted that Lucas Eichmeyer, the owner of
the property to the south of the Outlot, has expressed interest in that land but they have not agreed to any
terms. There is some right-of-way (ROW) that is platted as wetland; he does not envision the City
constructing a road through there. Commissioner Bean asked if that was an extension of Seamans Drive.
Mr. Packer responded yes.
Mr. Packer stated Outlot B and Outlot C will be owned and maintained by the HOA.
Mr. Packer then stated Outlot D will be owned and maintained by the HOA or it may be conveyed to Matt
Carlson, owner of the property just north of Outlot D. There is a storm sewer and catch basin in that area.
Commissioner Bean asked if, conceptually, that could ever be an extension of Club Lane if and when the
City could be in a position to widen that roadway and connect it through. Mr. Packer stated that was
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talked about with the Planning Advisory Committee (PAC) earlier on in the process. He noted that is not
even a half of ROW there. He stated to extend that roadway would require the City to acquire a lot of
private property. Bean stated keeping it under the HOA may allow for future flexibility if needed. Mr.
Packer stated Mattamy does not prefer one way or the other. Director Nielsen explained Club Lane was
considered as a second access to Smithtown Road but it did not make any sense to do that for the
development. He does not know what would be gained by extending Club Lane to Bentgrass Way. It
would more likely be a cul-de-sac serving whatever that land is redeveloped to. He commented that it
may be prudent to leave the land for a partial trail connection. Bean clarified he was not advocating for
anything specifically. Nielsen explained as Outlot D is described in the Development Agreement and the
Declaration of Covenants it could be left as an option.
Commissioner Johnson he asked if as part of the final plans there would be a breakdown matrix for each
outlot. Director Nielsen responded yes. Mr. Packer noted they will be renumbered, noting there will be
more outlots added.
Mr. Packer stated Outlot E will be owned and maintained by the HOA.
He then stated that Outlot F will be reconfigured and possibly broken into multiple outlots.
He went on to state a trail will be brought out to Country Club Road across from Mary Lake Trail.
He stated for the outlot to the west of the Coffey property at the northwest intersection of Country Club
Road and Yellowstone Trail (currently part of Outlot F) part will be conveyed to the Coffeys; a triangle
piece and the piece where all of the trees are. The HOA will landscape and maintain an area about 50 feet
back from the curb.
He noted that a small part of an outlet near the Coffey property would be eliminated and that area near the
street entrance would be landscaped and maintained by the HOA.
Mr. Parker stated Outlot H on the south side of the development would be owned and maintained by the
City. It would also be under a conservation easement.
Commissioner Bean asked what the pink color area is on the Groundcover Plan. Mr. Packer stated that is
wetland. It is mitigation for the wetland lost by making Ayrshire Lane an access to and from Smithtown
Road on the northwest corner of the development. The dark blue areas are stormwater management ponds
that would be 5 – 8 feet deep.
In response to a comment, Mr. Packer stated eco turf “low mow” lawn needs to be mowed a couple times
a year and it looks like wavy long grass. Director Nielsen explained the City will maintain that on City
owned parcels.
Commissioner Johnson asked if this item needs to be amended to include extending the eco turf area
along side of the Whitley Mott property. Director Nielsen suggested that be added to the remarks section
for NAC Item 3.
Chair Geng asked if there are any other properties that could have potential concerns about native buffer
seeding (pollinator) area next to their properties. Director Nielsen stated there were not any that would be
affected the same way.
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2. HOA responsible for street trees
Director Nielsen explained that in the initial staff report the issue was raised about the City not wanting to
maintain any more trees than it needed to. There was agreement that street trees would be visually nice
and that the HOA would be responsible for the street trees. That would be stipulated in the Development
Agreement and Declaration of Covenants.
3. Alternative energy
Director Nielsen explained the Council is going to discuss a draft report of renewable energy analysis
during its January 11, 2016, meeting. Council hired a consultant to do that analysis a number of months
ago. The consultant’s focus was on solar energy. Each consultant the City spoke with indicated that wind
energy on individual properties would not be very feasible. The consultant recommended changes that
could be made to the Zoning Code that would encourage the use of alternative energy. The developer has
indicated that it would not include any prohibition on solar in the Declaration of Covenants; some
developments prohibit solar. Solar as an accessory use would be allowed. Roof-top solar would be
allowed but staff does not recommend it be installed above the peak of the roof. Solar would be an
allowable encroachment – two feet into side yard setbacks and into 60 percent of the rear yard setback. A
20-foot height restriction would be allowed for ground-mounted solar. A hard cover credit would be
allowed for solar; that should be discussed further. The solar things allowed in the MCC development
would eventually be incorporated into the Zoning Code. The alternative energy provisions will be a
statement in the Development Agreement and a provision in the Declaration of Covenants.
KR clarified that the intent, from her perspective, is that renewable energy would be permissive. No one
is trying to force renewable energy on the development.
Director Nielsen stated that one of the recommendations in the renewable energy analysis was the use of
solar easements. It concluded that does not work very well for single family lots. That results trading one
property owner’s right to have trees in their yard for another owner’s right to have a solar array.
Mr. Packer asked if the City’s intent is that the solar arrays would be a matter of right or would they have
to apply to the City for approval to do that. Director Nielsen stated that would be handled with a zoning
permit and he assumes the HOA architectural review committee would have some say in that as well.
Commissioner Bean stated that if, for example, a tree grew to 40 feet high on an abutting property and
blocked the solar panel on the other property the tree would trump the solar panel.
Director Nielsen stated there is an energy value to having trees.
Commissioner Bean asked if it would be simple enough to say there would be no prohibition of solar in
the development but it would be subject to what the City ultimately includes in its solar ordinance and is
approved by the HOA.
Director Nielsen suggested discussing solar more before the final plans are done.
4. Concept Plan revision – Venero property
Director Nielsen explained staff is confident that the portion of the Venero property Mattamy proposes to
buy would leave enough area to meet the R1-A zoning district standards. The barn and greenhouse would
have to be removed because Mattamy will build two houses on what it purchases. There is no sense of
urgency for the minor subdivision. It can be addressed with the final plans. He anticipates the subdivision
to be done in conjunction with the final plans. He noted that the Veneros want to keep their garden
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business through next summer. He explained a condition can be specified that by a certain date the
buildings would have to be removed and the City would have to receive an escrow to ensure that happens.
Mr. Packer stated Mattamy is not going to purchase the lots unless the buildings have been removed and
noted the buildings were built to be relocated. Director Nielsen asked Mr. Packer to let Mr. Venero know
that the City does require moving permits for buildings that are somewhat intact. Mr. Packer noted the
development on two lots of the Venero property would not occur until phase 3 of the development.
5. Use of Outlots
This was discussed as part of Item 1 above.
6. Building setbacks
Director Nielsen explained the underlying standards for the development will be R-1C standards for the
traditional lots. For lots abutting 60-foot ROWs, 30-foot front yard setbacks would be allowed. For the
age-targeted units, 25-foot front setbacks would be allowed except for the east side of the westerly units
where 20 feet would be allowed. The final plans must include a graphic showing what the setbacks are for
each lot.
Mr. Packer explained Mattamy heard some concern expressed about the age-target lots and the size of the
homes resulting in narrower side yard setbacks. The vision of an army barracks came to mind for some.
He displayed a graphic showing actual floor plans for the age-targeted units Mattamy builds. The fronts
can be significantly different. If people go to look at the units in a development out in Minnetrista or wait
until age-targeted units start to get built for the MCC project they will see that they are anything but army
barracks. That is accomplished by the design of the houses and the placement of the units on curved
streets. Mattamy has made a concerted effort to make the development interesting, noting the MCC
development is compact.
7. Impervious surface (hardcover)
Director Nielsen stated in the initial staff report staff recommended a hardcover maximum of 40 percent.
He explained that ordinarily residential lots have a 33 percent maximum and 25 percent if located in a
shoreland district. Because the MCC development is being done under a PUD and about 40 acres of the
site is set aside as open space staff suggested the maximum per lot be increased. That would be indicated
in the Development Agreement.
8. Maintenance standards – private open space
Director Nielsen stated the developer will provide maintenance standards for the private open space that
would be referenced in the conservation easement. That will be shown in the final plans and included in
the Development Agreement and the Declaration of Covenants.
9. Additional ROW for Smithtown Road and Country Club Road
Director Nielsen stated the developer has already shown that in the preliminary plat. That will show up
again in the final plat submitted as part of the final plans.
10. Add second access to Smithtown Road
Director Nielsen stated the developer has complied and that will show up again in the final plans.
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11. Shift easterly access on Smithtown Road
Director Nielsen stated that has been done and it will show up again in the final plans.
12. Site drainage – outlet approval and pond sizes
Director Nielsen stated staff and the developer continue to work with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed
District (MCWD) on site drainage. The stormwater pond sizes will depend on the allowable outlet size.
Ponds may have to be increased in size and the size would be subject to MCWD approval. The developer
would have to have MCWD approval prior to submitting its first final plat.
Commissioner Johnson asked if there should be any reference to the Development Agreement and the
Declaration of Covenants regarding the maintenance of the stormwater ponds. Director Nielsen stated that
would be included in the landscape maintenance manual for the open spaces, noting wetlands are part of
the open space.
NAC Report
1. Defer to MCWD relative to wetland buffers
Director Nielsen explained the City Ordinance requires a 35-foot-wide wetland buffer plus a 15-foot
setback abutting homes. It was suggested that be increased to 50 feet where possible. To some degree it is
a moot point because so much of the site is being left as open space.
2. Wetland buffer monuments
Director Nielsen explained the intent is to place monument signs such that they adequately show property
owners where their lot ends and where the natural buffer areas begin. Commissioner Johnson asked if that
meant there would be something contiguous, such as riprap, to go all the way around the wetlands.
Nielsen clarified they would be discreet but noticeable signs. He explained the City currently requires
something like a survey stake that when pounded in flares out at the bottom to make them difficult to pull
out. Unfortunately, they are flush to the ground and often get covered by normal grass. The intent is to
have signs that would be slightly higher than the abutting turf treatment. The style of signs needs to be
determined. The location of them needs to be shown on the final plans.
3. Proposed land cover
Director Nielsen stated the amount of eco turf “low mow” lawn needs to be reduced and it needs to be
extended to the Whitley Mott property on the final plans. The maintenance of the land cover needs to be
included in the landscape maintenance manual.
4. Revise the tree replacement calculation
Director Nielsen explained the plans submitted to date indicate the replacement trees would be well in
excess of the requirements stipulated in the City’s Tree Preservation and Reforestation Policy. That will
be confirmed in the final plans.
5. Provide a tree list, shrub, grass and perennial species and identify where they will be planted
Director Nielsen stated the landscape architect has asked for a list of tree, shrub, grass and perennial
species and an indication of where they would be planted. That information should be incorporated into
the revised Open Space Groundcover Plan that would be submitted with the final plans.
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6. Address the balance of tree species; incorporate Hackberry trees into the replacement plan; increase
size of replacement trees to 3-inch caliper; and, increase shrub spacing to 3 feet
Director Nielsen stated these suggestions from the landscape architect should be incorporated into the
landscape plan and planting schedule and submitted with the final plans.
7. Adjust the entry detail landscape plans to comply with the 30-foot sight triangle
Director Nielsen stated the verdict is not in on this yet. He explained staff has discussed this with the
developer. The developer has stated that the majority of the cities it has dealt with use a sight triangle that
is measured along the edge of the paved street surface. The City Ordinance requires that 30-foot triangle
be measured from the property lines. Staff researched what other cities do and found some allow it to be
measured from the paved surface and others still measure it from the property line (ROW). In the case of
a stop condition which exists on all three intersections measuring from the paved surface could be
adequate. However, the City Engineer pointed out that at one intersection the stop sign is placed
approximately where the start of the curb radius is. In that intersection it would not be as visible as it
would be if the property line was used for determining the sight line. Staff suggests determining the sight
line after they know where the stop signs would be placed. Independent of what staff determines there
will likely be a need for an ordinance amendment that would apply to other developments or streets. The
sight lines are to be determined.
8. Provide a vegetation management plan
Director Nielsen stated the developer has agreed to prepare a landscape maintenance manual that
addresses the care and maintenance of public and private open space areas. Public Works personnel need
that direction. The manual should be submitted with the final plans.
9. Provide a plan for identifying and eradicating invasive exotic plants
Director Nielsen stated the landscape maintenance manual should address this and buckthorn removal
should be addressed in the grading plan. He explained there are differing perspectives about removing
buckthorn up front. Some of the screening along Country Club Road is buckthorn. Removing that will
change the appearance to people. The current intent is to transition it so that some of the landscaping
improvements along there are made about the same time as the buckthorn is removed.
10. Add additional sidewalks
Director Nielsen explained the report suggested adding more sidewalks. Areas proposed for sidewalks on
both sides of the street include the areas where the age-targeted housing would be. The age-targeted
housing would not necessarily be for seniors. After considerable discussion staff suggested sidewalks
within the development be limited to one side of the street only. Having sidewalks on both sides would be
out of character with the rest of the City because there are not sidewalks on both sides on the street. That
would also require added maintenance by the City. Staff believes the proposed sidewalk and trail plan
was adequate as submitted. He noted that as part of the project just over 11,000 feet of trails / sidewalks
will be constructed. The entire Smithtown Road trail will be about 13,000 feet long.
He stated the original plan showed the sidewalk on the west side along Ayrshire Lane. It may be moved to
the east side so it ties in with the sidewalk along Bentgrass Way which would be on the north side. That
would be worked out in the final plans.
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11. Extension of trail along Country Club Road to connect with Yellowstone Trail
Director Nielsen explained that the difficulty in extending the proposed trail along Country Club Road
down to Yellowstone Trail is the City does not have enough ROW to do that at the southeast end of
Country Club Road. Also, there is some topography that does not lend itself to a trail and putting in a trail
would require the construction of an expensive retraining wall. The traffic committee has discussed the
possibility of making Country Club Road slightly curvilinear. That could include curving the roadway to
intersect with Yellowstone Trail at 90 degrees. Moving that paved surface a little to the east would open
up the flat area at the end of the roadway so the trail could be extended through there. If that is not done,
another option could be to acquire additional ROW on the east side of Country Club Road and shift the
remainder of that trail over to that side of the street. The sidewalk does go down to Yellowstone Trail
through the project along Club Valley Road.
Commissioner Bean asked if the City has enough ROW to make that curve. Director Nielsen stated the
City would have to acquire additional ROW on the other side of the roadway and noted the developer
does not control that area. Bean stated he assumes no one has contacted the property owner. Nielsen
confirmed that.
Director Nielsen clarified that the options have been a discussion and not a recommendation as of yet. It
does make some sense because it would correct the intersection.
WSB Report
Director Nielsen noted the Engineer’s report contains about three pages of recommendations. Staff
selected those it thought should be included in this list of recommendations. The Engineer’s report serves
as the Engineer’s check list. All of those recommendations will show up in the final plans and those will
change as plans are submitted.
1. Obtain MPCA (Minnesota Pollution Control Agency), MCWD, WCA (Wetland Conservation Act)
and USACOE (US Army Corps of Engineers) Permits
Director Nielsen noted a permit was also needed from the Department of Agriculture related to soil
remediation. He also noted the developer does not need a permit from the USACOE; the MCWD will
handle that.
2. HOA maintenance of stormwater facilities
Director Nielsen stated this has been discussed from the very beginning and noted it needs to be
incorporate into the landscape maintenance manual that has to be submitted as part of the final plans. It
also needs to be referenced in the Development Agreement and Declaration of Covenants.
3. Increase entry lane widths to 20 feet wide and move the landscape median back south of the
Smithtown Road ROW
Director Nielsen stated that moving the landscape median is because of sight line issues. That and the
sight triangle issue will be discussed as part of the final plans.
4. Sidewalks on both side of Ayrshire Lane
Director Nielsen noted this was talked about as part of Item #10 under the NAC Report.
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5. Cul-de-sac longer than 700 feet
Director Nielsen explained the initial plan which did not have a second access point onto Smithtown Road
had shown a cul-de-sac that was much longer than 700 feet. A second access has been added on the
preliminary plat. The plat shows that the Bentgrass Way/Feather Bay cul-de-sac is approximately 715 feet
in length; it has already been shortened to save trees in the northeast corner of the site. This is considered
to be de minimis and therefore staff does not recommend a revision to the plat. The Bentgrass Way cul-
de-sac on the west end is approximately 750 feet long. This could be corrected by shifting Ayrshire Lane
to the west but that would result in loss of trees and it would move the street closer to houses to the west.
Because of the minimal number of lots served by that cul-de-sac staff does not recommend a change.
In response to a comment from Commissioner Bean, Director Nielsen explained the PUD allows for that
type of flexibility.
6. City water
Director Nielsen explained the City's water policy requires a $10,000 connection fee per lot, minus the
developer's costs in getting water to the front property line of each lot. After speaking with the Director of
Public Works earlier in the day staff believes it might be a wash. City policy provides for reimbursing the
developer for oversizing watermain. The developer needs an 8-inch pipe and the City wants it to be 12-
inch so the City will pay the difference.
7. Streets and utility standards
Director Nielsen explained the City Engineer is in the process of updating the City's standard plates and
specifications for streets and utilities. Those will be provided to the developer's engineer for inclusion into
the final plat.
This concluded the discussion about the recommendations and when they will be addressed.
Chair Geng stated there has not been any discussion about park dedication fees. Director Nielsen
explained the agreement that has been negotiated thus far is that the developer will pay the $6,500 fee per
lot for the 121 lots that it originally had in its project. It was the PAC that wanted diversity in housing
style. Per State Statute the City has to give some credit for the public open space and for constructing the
trails / sidewalks. He clarified the land is not park land.
Chair Geng stated an aesthetic concern has been raised since the Planning Commission’s December 1
meeting about the age-targeted housing on the northwest corner along Ayrshire Lane. He asked Mr.
Packer if there is sufficient screening on the back of the first four units on the northwest side of the
roadway. Vice-Chair Davis stated that it appears that landscape icons have been placed over existing trees
on some graphic. Mr. Packer stated that was done to more accurately depict what it will look like; the
aerial photograph was enhanced.
Mr. Packer stated he would like to address Mr. Miles’ concern, which Mattamy shares, about phasing the
development in. He explained that Mattamy prefers to keep its phases as small as possible. Sometimes
utilities and grading do not make that feasible. The smaller the phases are the more impact a few houses
under construction will have. Mattamy divided the project construction into three phases. The first phase
will include construction of three types of products: 16 – 18 age-targeted units; 14 houses in the center
that will be built by custom home builders; and some traditional houses to about half way down the site.
Mattamy has not determined where all of the excavated dirt will be put. Dirt excavated from phase 2 may
have to be put on the phase 3 land. He noted the City is requiring Mattamy to build the trails as part of the
first phase. At the same time ponds are built in the common open space houses in the first phase will be
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January 5, 2016
Page 20 of 21
constructed. He noted the areas he was talking about on some graphic. He stated that its regular
subdivision mowing is done about once a month during construction. Mattamy wants the site to look
somewhat tidy during construction. Mattamy wants to keep its footprint as small as possible with each
phase.
Geng moved, Maddy seconded, recommending approval of the revised Concept Stage plan for the
planned unit development (PUD) of the former Minnetonka Country Club property located at
24575 Smithtown Road, as proposed and approval of the Development Stage plans subject to the
recommendations set forth in the staff report as amended by the Planning Commission’s discussion
this evening. Motion passed 5/0.
Chair Geng noted that this ends the Planning Commission’s formal involvement with this development.
He stated from his perspective Mr. Packer has been a wonderful representative for Mattamy. He
appreciated Mr. Packer’s patience and Mattamy’s patience as well as the way Mr. Packer has been
straight forward when dealing with staff and the Commission and Council.
Mr. Packer stated that goes both ways. He then stated that he and Mattamy have established a good
relationship with staff and the City. Nothing has been brought up that was ridiculous. He noted he found
it enjoyable to deal with a professional Planning Commission and a staff that understands there has to be
give and take throughout a project like this. He thanked the Commissioners and staff. He commented that
he guarantees that some things will change. He stated he hopes he and Mattamy have built a strong
enough relationship with staff and the Commissioners and Councilmembers to cooperatively work
through changes as they come up.
Commissioner Bean asked what the next steps in the approval process are. Director Nielsen stated a
timeline is being prepared. Nielsen explained the revised Concept Stage plan and the Development Stage
plans will be considered by Council during its January 25, 2015, meeting. Once those are approved by
Council the final plans will be prepared. He will meet with the City Attorney on January 7 to start to draft
the Development Agreement for the project with what is known to date. Per the City Ordinance, the City
gets 20 days after the submission of the complete final plans to review them and bring them before
Council. During its December 1, 2015, meeting the Planning Commission had asked for an opportunity to
see the Declaration of Covenants. That document will be routed to the Commission as soon as it is
available. He anticipates the City will receive a final plat for the first phase of the development in April or
possibly March.
Mr. Packer explained it’s Mattamy’s plan to have the site loaded with equipment in April before road
restrictions are put into effect. Its final plan would be submitted to the MCWD on January 8 and
representatives for the MCWD have committed to him that they will turn that around in two days.
Mattamy hopes it can get the required permits from agencies within 30 – 60 days. He noted there are no
wetland impacts until the third phase of construction but it does need other permits from the MCWD for
the first phase. He stated Mattamy hopes to bid the project out in February and get machinery on the site
in April. Then there will be a tremendous amount of activity on the site as well as dust and noise. Full
blown construction will go on all summer long. The intent is to start constructing houses in October. He
noted Mattamy will send out a letter to the nearby residents providing them with Mattamy’s contact
information. Its inspector does not live too far from the site. Mattamy will encourage residents to call it
directly unless it’s not doing something it is supposed to do.
Chair Geng asked if Mattamy is going to bring in more than one custom builder. Mr. Packer responded it
will bring in several custom home builders. He explained that Mattamy selected one custom builder but
that company backed out, in part, because of the size of the project and because of fear that the market for
upper end housing may have peaked. He noted that there are a number of companies that want to
construct the age-targeted units.
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January 5, 2016
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Vice-Chair Davis closed the Public Hearing at 10:15 P.M.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no matters from the floor presented this evening.
5. OLD BUSINESS / NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Bean noted that he will not be at the February 2, 2016, Planning Commission meeting.
Council Liaisons were selected as followed:
January 2016 Commissioner Johnson
February 2016 Vice-Chair Davis
March 2016 Chair Geng
April 2016 Commissioner Johnson
May 2016 Commissioner Maddy
June 2016 Commissioner Bean
6. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
Director Nielsen stated there is a senior housing project slated for the February 2, 2016, Planning
Commission meeting.
7. REPORTS
• Liaison to Council
Council Liaison Sundberg noted there is a Council and staff retreat scheduled for February 5, 2016.
• SLUC
Director Nielsen noted that Commissioner Maddy told him he was interested in going to the next Sensible
Land Use Coalition session. Maddy stated he thought the topic is about land development economics.
• Other
Director Nielsen stated an advertisement in the Sun Sailor indicated there were openings on the Planning
Commission. Commissioner Johnson stated the City’s newsletter also did. Chair Geng, Vice-Chair Davis
and Commissioner Johnson all indicated they would be interested in continuing on when their terms
expire at the end of February 2016.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Davis moved, Johnson seconded, Adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of January 5, 2016,
at 10:22 P.M. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Christine Freeman, Recorder
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SHOREWOOD
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 -8927 • (952) 960 -7900
FAX (952) 474 -0128 • www.ci.shorewood.mmus . cityhaII @ci.shorewood.mn.us
MEMORANDUM
TO: Planning Commission, Mayor and City Council
FROM: Brad Nielsen
DATE: 28 January 2016
RE: Aanenson, Gloria — Conditional Use Permit for Fill In Excess of 100
Cubic Yards
FILE NO.: 405 (16.02)
BACKGROUND
Gloria Aanenson is the owner of the property at 19325 Waterford Place (see Site Location map —
Exhibit A, attached). She proposes to raise the level of her back yard to create a level play area
for her children. The project involves bringing in approximately 600 cubic yards of fill material
and the construction of a rather large retaining wall. Shorewood's zoning regulations require a
conditional use permit for fill in excess of 100 cubic yards. Ms. Aanenson's request for a C.U.P.
has been scheduled for a public hearing on 2 February. Exhibit B, attached, provides an existing
survey of the property.
Plans for the retaining wall and fill are contained in Exhibits C -E, attached. The location of the
wall is shown on Exhibits C and D. The wall is approximately 220 feet in total length. As
illustrated, the wall is approximately 65 feet from the rear lot line and as close as five feet from
the side lot lines. It is worth noting that the wall is approximately 10 feet tall at its highest point.
The applicant has provided a cross- section drawing (Exhibit E). As shown in that exhibit, the
proposed wall is constructed of very large boulder material.
The property is zoned P.U.D., Planned Unit Development and contains approximately 29,642
square feet of area. The lot slopes down from north to south with approximately 30 feet of grade
change between the front and rear of the lot. While the area in which the fill will be placed is
relatively open, dense deciduous wooded area encompasses the rear yard of the site, south of the
applicant's fence.
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Memorandum
Re: Aanenson CUP
28 January 2016
ANALYSIS/RECOMMENDATION
Shorewood's Zoning Code requires a conditional use peimit.whenever more than 100 cubic
yards of material is brought on to a site. This equates to approximately 10 dump truck loads of
dirt. Issues associated with these types of requests 'are typically engineering related.
Consequently, the plans were forwarded to the City Engineer, whose comments are provided in
Exhibit F, attached.
Grading, drainage and structural aspects of the proposed wall are addressed in the Engineer's
report. From a planning perspective, the conditional use permit should address the potential
impact on surrounding properties. At staff's direction, the applicant's consultants have revised
their original plans so that no portion of the wall within the side yard setback area is higher than
six feet, the height of a common fence. Any portion of the wall taller than six feet will be at least
10 feet from the side lot lines.
The conditional use permit is recommended, subject to the City Engineer's recommendations.
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January 25, 2016
Mr. Brad Nielsen, Planning Director
City of Shorewood
5755 Country Club Road
Shorewood, MN 55331
Re: Conditional Use Permit
19325 Waterford Place
WSB Project No. 02925 -051
Dear Mr. Nielsen:
477 Temperance Street
St. Paul, MN 55101
Tel: 651- 286 -8450
Fax: 651 - 286 -8488
We have reviewed the plan submittal that includes the Certificate of Survey, Landscape Plan, and
structural drawings and calculations forthe proposed retaining wall. Plans are prepared by Brandt
Engineering & Surveying, LLC, Ground One Enterprises, and Vickery Engineering & Consulting, LLC. We
have the following comments and recommendations for the Conditional Use Permit Application.
General
The proposed project will construct a retaining wall up to 10.5 feet high in the rear yard at 19325
Waterford Place. The proposed wall is a gravity boulder wall designed by Vickery Engineering &
Consulting, LLC.
1. Prior to the start of any construction, permits will need to be obtained at a minimum from the
following agencies:
a. Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (Erosion Control)
Erosion and Sediment Control
1. All areas disturbed by construction activities will require restoration within 14 days of the
completion of grading activities.
2. Erosion control such as silt fence will need to be installed and maintained through the
construction period and the establishment of turf.
3. The owner will be required to sweep the street(s) to remove material that is tracked off the
project site. A street sweeper with pick -up broom is required.
Grading Plan
1. The landscaping plan is to provide contours of the site in the area of construction. The proposed
finished grades.will need to ensure the stormwater runoff from the site do not flow onto an
adjacent parcel from the side - yards, and does not adversely affect adjacent properties. We
recommend a slight Swale be constructed between the bottom of wall and the side yard
property line.
2. The owner will be responsible for damage to the curb and street due to heavy equipment and
trucks hauling material to the site and grading the site.
Exhibit F
Equal Opportunity CITY ENGINEER'S STAFF REPORT
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Conditional Use Permit - 19325 Waterford Place
January 25, 2016
Page 2
3. Storage of material in the roadway is not allowed at any time.
Retaining Wall Construction
1. The proposed retaining wall encroaches five feet into the existing drainage and utility easement.
If approved, we recommend the applicant be required to:
a. Have a prepared recordable document for County records that indicates they owner will
remove, replace, and restore the retaining wall and yard areas disturbed by utility
construction in the easement permitted by the City, and any damage caused by the City
for access of the easement.
b. The owner is responsible for the costs of any required removal, replacement and
restoration required for the permitted use of the easement by the City or others as
permitted by the City.
c. The documented requirements be recorded with the County and the affidavit of
recording be submitted to the City.
2. The Engineer of Record will certify in writing to the City that the retaining wall has been
constructed in accordance with the design drawings, details, and calculations.
Final plans will need to be provided to the City before a permit to construct the improvements is
granted.
Please contact me if you have any questions or need any additional information from engineering staff.
Sincerely,
WSB & Associates, Inc.
Paul Hornby, P.E.
City Engineer
(651) 286 -8453
phornby @wsbene.com
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