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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2016 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Mangold convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
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Present: Chair Mangold, Commissioners Vassar, Kobs, Rock, and BarrCity
Council Liaison Woodruff; Finance Director Bruce DeJong; City Planner
Nielsen
Absent: None
B. Review Agenda
Kobs moved to approve the agenda as written. Rock seconded the motion. Motion carried 5-0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of August 23, 2016
Rock moved to approve the minutes of the August 23, 2016 meeting as written. Kobs seconded
the motion. Motion carried 5-0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
REVIEW UPDATES OF CIP
4.
DeJong reviewed the updated CIP created as a result of discussions at the August 23 meeting.
He noted $400,000 has been added for Badger Park Phase 1. $10,000 was added for the
Freeman Park south parking lot for a total of $60,000. Nielsen stated the estimate for the parking
lot is $85,000. DeJong stated money was added to the Cathcart tot lot in 2018. Badger Park
Phase 2 will be in 2019 with the current engineer’s estimate for improvements. The Freeman
north playground equipment was moved to 2020 at $100,000 and Cathcart hockey rink at
$150,000 in 2020. He indicated the net effect doesn’t change a whole lot. There will be deficit in
2019 when the Badger Park Phase 2 improvements are made. DeJong stated the City Council
would consider transferring some of the general fund surplus into the CIP in 2019. He also
discussed proposed transfers which could begin in 2018 and will be discussed with the City
Council in the spring of 2017. He asked the Park Commission for their input.
In response to a question from Woodruff regarding the Mattamy fees, DeJong indicated where
those fees are indicated in the CIP.
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In response to a question from Mangold, DeJong explained how the park amenities could be
included in the CIP for better projections. Mangold stated he would like to see us get to a point
where there is a suggested replacement date, and nothing gets pushed out to a later date. Kobs
agreed with Mangold’s suggestion. He believed a full inventory would be a valuable tool.
DeJong stated you can run into some nasty surprises when equipment does and something needs
to be done right away because it hasn’t been part of a regular replacement schedule.
Mangold stated it’s easy to do that moving forward with new equipment but not so easy when
you don’t know when a piece of equipment was installed. He stated it appears that a lot of items
are lumped together. He stated we need to find a way to phase replacements. Nielsen discussed
the difficulty of replacing playground equipment on a schedule. He stated when equipment is still
in good shape, it is foolish to replace it even if it is scheduled for replacement.
Vassar asked if we need to have a plan before we check out grant possibilities. Nielsen stated
there definitely needs to be a plan, the more detailed, the better. He discussed current funding
opportunities. Vassar suggested setting a timeline for plan preparation. Nielsen stated we should
look at next year’s budget, determine funding availability, and develop plans before we apply for a
grant.
Woodruff stated grants are uncertain. He suggested creating a budget, put them on a schedule,
and determine where internal funding might come from. He stated funds come and go. Rock
suggested obtaining competitive bids for items in the next year’s budget. Woodruff asked if any
of the equipment is part of a state contract. Nielsen stated he was sure they were. Woodruff
explained the state contract.
Mangold stated he believed we need to step back, determine what parks are in need of
replacement, and move ahead with replacement.
5. CATHCART TRAIL REVISION
Nielsen stated staff is working on a graphic for the trail and have been working on a cost estimate.
Once it is completed, the Commission can determine when to go back to Chanhassen. Nielsen
discussed the ownership and maintenance of the park. Nielsen suggested another graphic to show
Chanhassen might be one showing how many residents from each city use the park.
Mangold didn’t think this was a priority right now. Vassar suggested it be moved to 2018 with
the Cathcart playground placement. Nielsen stated the trail isn’t on the CIP right now.
6. FREEMANPARK
A. South Parking Lot Pavement
Mangold noted the City Engineer has provided a quote for $85,000 for the parking lot while we
have budgeted $60,000.
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A member of the audience stated the parking lot raises a lot of dust and dirt. She stated she has a
petition from 62 units in the area who woud like to see the lot paved. Park users are also in
support of the parking lot pavement.
Mangold asked if there are dust control measures being done now. Nielsen stated there is not.
Woodruff discussed the use of an asphalt mix that can be laid on the current gravel which controls
the dust. He indicated it is very inexpensive.
Woodruff discussed the use of calcium chloride which is a pollution issue.
Mangold stated the next step would be to request quotes for treatment and paving.
Commissioners discussed any additional costs/permits that might be required.
Woodruff discussed problems with drainage in the park. He indicated the City Engineer would
state the paving would not have any impact on the drainage.
Mangold suggested the trail be patched up as long as the parking lot was being paved.
Vassar asked if it would still be done this year. Nielsen stated the CIP has it as a 2017 project.
He also indicated the City Engineer didn’t think it could be done yet this year.
Vassar asked if a plan could be voted on. Woodruff stated the Council is waiting for a Park
Commission recommendation.
B. Grading/Lighting for Future Rink
Nielsen stated there was discussion about a reduced-size hockey rink in the area of the north
parking lot. He stated the parking lot would need to be leveled off, and the cost would be
between $7500 and $9500 for an outside contractor. The estimate to move the lighting from
Badger to Freeman would be close to $50,000. The Building Official is looking at the cost of a
partition wall between the warming house and the concession area. He stated the hope is to have
Public Works do the work.
Mangold stated we will be without hockey at Badger Park this year. He asked if there is some
way to have ice at Freeman with or without lighting. Nielsen believed the grading and wall could
be done before this year’s season if it was acceptable to do it without lights. Vassar asked if
temporary lighting could be rented. Nielsen stated staff could look into that.
Mangold asked if the question is whether we should sit on this for a year. Vassar stated she
would like to get it moving for this year. Rock agreed, stating we should try it this year and see if
a larger size would be warranted.
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Commissioners discussed the grading and lighting timetable. Mangold stated it would be a great
idea to have it available by Arctic Fever. Vassar stated she had suggested the sculptures be
moved there and possibly lighting up the trees.
Mangold stated the cost of the grading would certainly be an amount that would be reasonable.
He asked how quickly the electrical could be added. Nielsen stated a different contract would
erect the light poles. He stated he could get a bid on the wiring or have it subcontracted.
Woodruff suggested staff determine whether Public Works can grade the parking lot and, if not,
get a quote for the work.
Staff will confirm with Public Works if they can do the work, get a quote as a backup, and review
the quote at the next meeting. Staff will also start the process on the light installation.
Rock suggested the area be measured to determine where the lighting should be installed. Nielsen
noted the lighting that would be installed would be for a much larger rink than this proposed area.
Vassar asked if one light would be enough. Nielsen stated we have two.
7.
NEW BUSINESS
None
8. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Woodruff updated the Commission on recent City Council actions. He also reported there was
direction to negotiate a contract for a new administrator.
B. Staff
Nielsen stated on September 26, there will be a ribbon cutting for the play field at Badger at 6 p.m.
9. ADJOURN
Vassar moved, Kobs seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of September 13, 2016 at
8:29 p.m. Motion carried 5-0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder