021412 Park Mtg Agenda Packet
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 2012 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1.CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A.Roll Call
Quinlan____
Robb____
Edmondson____
Swaggert____
Kjolhaug____
Hartmann____
Gordon____
B.Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of January 10, 2012 (Att.-#2A)
3.MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4.PRESENTATION BY EAGLE SCOUT NICK HOSTETTER
5.
DETERMINE LIAISON FOR CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS FOR MARCH,
APRIL AND MAY
– (Att.-#5)
6. DISCUSS BADGER PARK PRIORITY SETTING
– (Att.-#6)
7. DISCUSS AND RECOMMEND RINK POLICY
– (Att.-#7)
8. REVIEW AND RECOMMEND PURCHASE OF PICNIC TABLES –
(Att.-#8)
9. NEW BUSINESS
10. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
(Staff reports and updates are not meant for discussion. Discussion items will be
listed as part of new or old business.)
A. City Council
B.Staff
C.Grant Report
11. ADJOURN
Liaison for City Council Meeting on February 27- Swaggert
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JANUARY 10, 2012 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Quinlan convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Quinlan; Commissioners, Swaggert, Kjolhaug, Hartmann, Robb and
Gordon; Administrator Heck; Public Works Director Brown; City Council liaison Woodruff;
Absent: Commissioner Edmondson
B. Review Agenda
Robb moved, Kjolhaug seconded, approving the Agenda as presented. Motion passed 6/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of December 13, 2011
Gordon moved, Robb seconded, approving the Minutes of December 13, 2011, as submitted.
Motion passed 6/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Shorewood resident, Mary Dvorak inquired about the proposed policy for the rinks. She stated that some
cities do have rinks and doesn’t want the city to stop flooding the rinks. She was wondering why the city
does not flood at night. Brown explained that the city does not have a night crew and would have to pay
overtime to flood at night. The only guideline the city follows is for cold weather from other
communities. Robb asked if Public Works was flooding the rinks currently. Brown stated that they just
started to generate ice two days ago. Quinlan stated that this item is on the agenda and would be further
discussed.
4. ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS
A. Election of Officers
Heck indicated that council would like to open the two seats on the Park Commission to the public and
the two Park Commissioners with expiring terms.
Edmondson asked that election of officers take place after appointments. Election of officers will take
place at the March meeting.
B. Approve Meeting Calendar
Heck outlined the planning calendar to show what will be forthcoming for future meetings for everyone.
He also stated that the City Council would like to hold the joint Park Commission meeting on February
28.
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5. DISCUSS AND RECOMMEND ICE RINK POLICY
Quinlan is hoping that this is mute point as cold weather is supposed to be approaching. Quinlan asked if
there is a current policy in place. Heck stated that there is no official policy in place for warm/cold
weather and when to stop flooding. There has not been a situation like this for many years where the
weather is warmer than normal. Other alternatives to consider are does it make sense to utilize overtime
to flood the rinks. Rinks usually close around February 14 for the season. A guideline/policy would help
residents and staff in making decisions as to when to close due to weather and flooding of the rinks.
Heck said that staff would go over a policy and bring back to the commission for review at their February
meeting.
Robb asked if we do get colder weather would we be able to still make ice. Brown stated that if we get
cold weather we can make good ice at Cathcart and Badger hockey rinks.
Swaggert moved, Gordon seconded, to keep attempting to make ice where possible and to direct
staff to prepare and develop a draft policy and bring back to the commission at the February 14
meeting. Motion passed.
Kjolhaug asked about Manor Park and how that is flooded. Brown explained that they use the tanker
truck and use a brush to clear. Hartmann asked if there was a way to notify the public about which rinks
are operating. Brown said that staff could put an update on the city website.
Woodruff suggested giving staff direction as to when to stop making ice. Swaggert wanted to leave this
to staffs discretion as part of the motion for this year and look further at a policy in February.
Quinlan asked if there is a criterion for closing rinks. Brown explained that temperatures play a part in
determining conditions of the ice (how soft it is, standing water); it comes down to a judgment call.
6. DISCUSS PRIORITY SETTING FOR BADGER PARK
Heck outlined the priority process to the commissioners.
After reviewing, the top four items that the Park Commission would like to keep or see are:
Tennis Courts
Restrooms
Football Field
Picnic Shelter
The items that the commission would really want are:
Community Green Space
Parking Lot Improvements
Non-paved Trail
Lighted Tennis Courts
Improvement to the Entrance
Basketball Court
Free skating, lighted hockey rink, warming house, pond or water feature, lighted basketball
court, art or sculptures, paved trail and community gardens were rated as not as important.
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Heck explained that the next step that the commission needs to take is to go through the items where there
is consensus. Once there is a consensus, then work on putting those items into the CIP in some form.
It was determined there needs to be a design element and where would these items be placed in the park.
But the first step is to gain consensus on how the commission sees the park.
Robb mentioned there is a variance in opinion on some of the items so there needs to be a discussion.
Quinlan mentioned that costs should be considered. Does the Park Commission look at possible
redesigning the park and determine what should be considered at the park and should consider the cost.
Gordon asked if the report from the EPA was available and should be considered. Brown explained that
16 years ago there was monitoring of the parking lot, dairy queen site and gas station. East of the gas
station there is a concrete pad, that pad was to cap the contaminates. MPC and EPA stated that the site
was passable and discontinued the monitoring.
Discussion ensued on the top four priority items.
Picnic Shelters: There is an interest in a picnic shelter. Heck asked the commission to define a picnic
shelter. Commissioner Swaggert stated he envisioned something like the structure at Manor Park – a
building with a canopy. Commission Robb stated his idea is more like the canopy structure located at
Silverwood. Commissioner Quinlan concurred with Robb, noting that a warming house type building is
lower on the ranking.
It was stated that a Hockey rink is low on the list as is a free skating area, if there isn’t skating, is there a
need for a building. Heck stated that this is the purpose of the process – to come to consensus and
understanding on what everyone’s view is.
The Commission consensus is that in discussing the picnic shelter, it is one similar to the structure at
Silverwood Park.
Football field – Heck asked the Commission if they ranked the football field higher because there is a
need for a football field in Shorewood or is it because it is already at the park? Commissioner Gordon
stated because it was there and she considers it open green space. Commission Kjolhaug stated the field is
generally used for boy’s football ages 8-12 for two months out of the year that is why he provided a lower
priority. Heck and Brown stated the La Cross club uses the field and ultimate Frisbee pick-up games are
played there. Hartman asked if there was a capacity for this type of field at Freeman or if it could be used
for soccer. Brown explained that soccer, football, ultimate Frisbee, and lacrosse use Badger field.
Hartmann asked if there had been any requests to use the football fields. Brown explained that the sports
organizations try to operate their spaces separately. So when the fields are scheduled for the sports
organizations resting of the fields is considered. Hartmann asked if the football field is used during the
day. Occasionally there is usage but it is the evening that the field is used the most.
Heck asked if it was reasonable to refer to the Football fields as “Multi-use, green space.” The
Commissioners agreed with that terminology.
Restrooms: Heck stated this is on interesting item. Restrooms are rated high by the group, however, a
warming house is low on the needs list. Heck asked what the Commissions idea of restrooms is.
Hartmann asked if there is a lot of maintenance to the restrooms. Brown explained that restrooms are
maintained every day. Hartmann thought if there is not going to be skating, then there would not be a
need for a warming house. Robb also mentioned that there is the community center. He wondered if the
restrooms at the center could be used. Brown stated there may be conflicts when there are events at the
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center. Woodruff stated that the center is not always open in the evening and have different hours of
operation.
Swaggert indicated that his vision is a restroom structure with a canopy attached, that the restrooms be
tied in with the picnic shelter in some way.
The consensus of the commission is to consider the restrooms in conjunction with the picnic shelter.
Un-lighted Tennis Courts: Heck stated this is the last item landing in the ‘1’ rating. He asked that
Commission Swaggert provide his view for his rating. Swaggert indicated that tennis is an individual
sport, not a community type activity. He sees the cost of maintaining the courts as high, a lot of unused
tennis courts in the area, and value in community. Quinlan sees the courts used a lot and when he uses
them, he has to wait. Robb stated he can see Commissioner Swagger’s point of view, but he also stated
that tennis is a sport a wide age group of people can play compared to soccer or football. It needs to be
determined if this is the right court to support and which courts get used most out of our park system.
Heck indicated the city supports tennis courts in three parks, and asked if this is the right number of
courts. Are these parks the best location for courts or is there a better alternative. Heck stated these are all
issues the commission needs to work out during this process.
Heck stated the next phase is to determine how the tennis courts tie in with all the amenities and to decide
if the city has a need for three tennis courts. The commission will need to look at the whole park system
and consider all park amenities and what is unique of Badger Park. It will be determined what you would
like the park to look like.
There was discussion on the TKDA plan. Woodruff mentioned that he was liaison during this process and
that there was a lot of discussion as to the amenities needed in the parks. The community gardens were a
new concept at that time and were added to most of the park plans. There wasn't this type of analysis
done for each park. This was a visioning exercise that leads to this step that commission is working on.
At this point Heck will document some of the information and the commission should look over the park
questions on the community survey. See what the resident’s perception is of parks. This will tie in at the
next meeting and review the top four and discuss the next four items.
Heck will send out the list along with a summary of what was discussed.
It was asked if additional meetings will be needed for this project and how the commission is going to
move forward at the next meeting.
The next meeting the Park Commission will start with looking at a vision for Badger Park, and review the
citizen’s survey.
Heck will include the citizen survey in the next park packet. The Park Commission is invited to attend
the City Council work session on Februaru 13 as the consultant will be presenting the survey results.
Heck asked if this process was helpful. Consensus was that it is. The commission thanked Heck for
putting this together.
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7. NEW BUSINESS
Quinlan mentioned that there is another Eagle Scout looking for a project. Quinlan asked that the
commission think about possible projects for the summer for this Eagle Scout. The Eagle Scout will be
attending the next Park Commission meeting.
8. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Woodruff provided an update on the City Council meeting of January 9, 2012.
B. Staff
1. Joint City Council Meeting Date
Heck reported that the joint meeting with the City Council will be February 28 at 6:00 p.m.
2. Winter Activity Report
Heck reported that Three Rivers will attempt to do snow shoeing in February; otherwise all winter
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activities have been cancelled
He also updated the Park Commission on the activities that will be taking place at Arctic Fever.
3. Summer Activity Update
A written report was provided.
4. Strategic Planning
Other items that staff is working on is:
Looking at a grant for buckthorn removal at Freeman Park.
Tree City USA program looking at a $25,000 grant to reforest certain areas of the
city. Recommendation is to make the Park Commission the city tree board.
9. ADJOURN
Swaggert moved, Kjolhaug seconded, adjourning the meeting at 9:10 p.m. Motion passed 6/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Brian Heck
Recorder
Twila Grout
Administrative Assistant
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-474-3236
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout – Administrative Assistant
Date: February 1, 2012
Re: Determine Liaison for City Council Meetings for March, April and May
Listed below are the dates of the City Council meetings for March, April and May.
City Council Meetings:
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March 12 - Will be reporting on Park Commission meeting of February 28.
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March 26 – Will be reporting on the Park Commission meeting of March 13.
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April 23 - Will be reporting on Park Commission meeting of April 10.
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May 14 - Will be reporting on Park Commission meeting of May 8.
Once the commission has determined who will be the liaison to the above meetings, a schedule will be made
and distributed to the Park Commission.
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
MEMORANDUM
TO: Park Commission
FROM: Brian Heck, City Administrator
CC: Mayor and Council
DATE: January 11, 2012
SUBJECT: Badger Park Planning / Park System Planning
The Commission is off to a good start in working through the planning and prioritization for
Badger Park. The exercise conducted at the 10 January meeting generated some great
questions and identified how decisions made for this park will impact other parks in the system.
The commission will need to consider the impacts and linkages with regard to the entire system
as this process evolves.
What follows is a brief summary of some of the key discussion points from last night, outline for
the next couple of meetings, and the results of the priority ranking exercise.
The top four items the commission identified were:
Picnic Shelter
Football Field – Lighted
Restrooms
Tennis Court – Unlighted
The commission started by defining the picnic shelter. The first thought was a structure similar
to the facility at Manor Park – a small building with a canopy. After some discussion, the
commission came to consensus that in this case, the structure this refers to is a standalone
canopy type structure similar to what is at Silverwood Park. The commission did recognize that
the final outcome might be a structure similar to what is at Manor or Freeman Park.
Regarding the football field, some commissioners rated this amenity high because it already
existed and some indicated that this area could also serve the purpose of open green space.
One concern raised dealt with the designation as a “football” field. The feeling was that a
football field is only used a couple months a year and only by a small group of kids. The
consensus of the commission is to refer to this area as a multiuse green space.
Restrooms received the same rating as the football field. The commission consensus for this
item is to incorporate it with the picnic shelter in some manner.
Tennis Courts rounded out the top four items and generated most of the discussion. The
commission talked about the general cost to construct and maintain a tennis court in terms of
the number of people who can use the courts. The commission also recognized that tennis is a
lifetime sport and appeals to a wide age group. The commission consensus is that tennis courts
are a desired amenity, the real question comes down to how many and where.
The discussion on tennis courts brought up the issue of a complete and integrated park system
long range strategic plan.
Next Steps
1. The park commission will need to develop
a. A vision statement for Badger Park – How do you see Badger Park? What is unique
about the Park?
b. A vision statement for the park system as a whole. How do you see the entire park
system? What is the purpose for the park system?
2. Continue to identify the key amenities Badger Park should host.
3. Begin to lay out the plan for Badger Park – what goes where and the proposed timeline.
4. Staff will develop estimated costs.
5. Expand the planning process to include the entire park system and create a
comprehensive long range strategic plan for the parks.
Following the Joint Meeting with the Council, the park commission will meet and to develop the
Badger Park vision statement. If time allows, the commission may begin to consider a park
system wide vision statement. Please review the resident survey and be prepared to discuss
with the commission what you believe Badger Park should be – who should it cater to, what is
its purpose, etc.
The table on the next page shows the ranking of each commissioner and the average rating.
The rankings go from most needed to least needed.
City of Shorewood
BADGER PARK PRIORITZATION
Rank each amenity on a 1-5 scale with 1 being must have and 5 not needed. Feel free to
add more amenities as you see fit.
Bob Susan Mark Linda Tom Steve Nick Average
Amenity
3 1.4
Picnic Shelter 1 2 1 1 1 1
2 1.6
Football field - lighted 1 1 4 1 1 1
1 1.6
Restrooms 1 3 1 1 2 2
Tennis Courts non-5 1.9
1 1 3 1 1 1
lighted
Community Green 2 2.4
1 5 1 5 1 2
space feature
Parking 3 2.5
3 3 1 2 3
Improvements
Non-paved walking 2 2.6
3 3 3 3 2 2
trail
3 2.6
Playground - tot's 3 3 1 2 3 3
5 2.7
Tennis Courts Lighted 1 2 4 2 3 2
Park enterance 2.8
1 4 4 2 3
improvement
Baskeball courts non-4 2.9
2 3 2 2 3 4
lighted
2 3.0
Free Skating- lighted 3 4 2 3 4 3
3 3.1
Playgound - older 5 3 1 2 5 3
2 3.3
Hockey rink lighted 5 1 3 3 5 4
2 3.4
Pond/water feature 2 5 5 3.5 4 2
2 3.4
Warming House 5 2 2 5 5 3
hockey rink non-2 3.6
5 3 4 2 5 4
lighted
4 3.6
Fountian Feature 1 5 4 4 4 3
Baskeball courts 4 3.9
5 3 3 3 5 4
lighted
4
Art/Sculpture 5 4 4 4 3
5 4.3
Paved walking trail 4 5 2 5 5 4
4 4.7
Gardens - community 5 4 5 5 5 5
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout – Recreation Coordinator
Brian Heck - City Administrator
Date: February 1, 2012
Re: Agenda Item 7 – Ice Rink Policy
At the January 10 Park Commission meeting the commissioners discussed the possibility of having an
outdoor skating rinks and warming house policy.
After reviewing and discussing the alternatives, the Park Commission asked staff to develop a draft policy
and bring back to the next park commission meeting for review.
Attached you will find a draft copy of the policy for your review and discussion.
Staff Recommendation:
Upon review and discussion, staff recommends that the Park Commission support Outdoor Skating
Rinks and Warming House Policy, and send the item onto City Council for their approval.
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City of Shorewood’s
Outdoor Skating Rinks and Warming House Policies
Purpose
The purpose of this policy is to ensure safe conditions for all park patrons and that City
facilities are used appropriately. To achieve this, the City of Shorewood has set in place
the following policy for the use of the City’s outdoor skating rinks and warming house
facilities.
Rink Flooding
Public works staff will begin flooding rinks when there have been seven (7) or more
consecutive days with temperatures below freezing. If warm weather does not permit
Public Works to establish the rinks until after January 16, warming houses will not be
open. Staff will continue to maintain rinks until February 15 or as weather permits. If the
weather conditions do not permit the development of rinks by January 23, the skating
rinks and warming houses will be closed for the season.
Rink/Warming House Opening and Closing
Weather permitting rinks / warming houses, will open approximately the week of
Christmas and close on approximately February 15. Should conditions permit, facilities
may remain open through the end of February.
Warming houses and rinks will close when the air temperature drops to -10 degrees or the
wind chill falls below -15. Warming houses and rinks will also close when the surface of
the ice is too soft or there is standing water on the rinks.
Rinks and warming houses will also remain closed if, on the weekend, there is an
accumulation of snow of one (1) or more inches or when public works staff is not
available to clear the rinks.
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout – Recreation Coordinator
Date: February 9 2012
Re: Picnic Tables
In 2010 the Park Commission directed staff to collect quotes for the purchase of picnic tables to replace/supplement
the current aging inventory of tables in the parks over the next several years. Within the 2012 CIP, the Commission
allocated $14,000 to purchase additional tables.
Staff contacted Midwest Playscapes, the manufacturer who provided the tables the last two years, and asked for a new
quote and also received a quote from Minnesota/Wisconsin Playground. Similar to the quantity estimated last year,
Midwest Playscapes provided the City of Shorewood with the same style picnic tables(6’ rectangular picnic tables,
features 2 3/8” OD, powder coated frame perforated steel top(not expanded metal)) as the last two years, 11 tables,
including freight and sales tax for $7,917.30. Minnesota/Wisconsin Playground provided a quote for 11 tables from
two different vendors. The first company specs are: 6’ picnic table, 2 attached 6’ Seats, rounded corners, ¾” #9
expanded metal, 2 3/8” legs. The second company specs are: 6’ picnic table, 2 attached 9 1/2"seats, 3/4 “ #9 expanded
metal. The quote is the same for these two vendors $6,705.33.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Upon review and discussion, the Park Commission will need to determine which quote they would
like to go with and recommend to the City Council to award the purchase of the picnic tables.
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