081512 Park Mtg. Agenda Packet
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 15, 2012 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Quinlan(April)____
Edmondson(June)____
Swaggert(October)____
Kjolhaug(May)____
Hartmann(September)____
Gordon(August)____
Mangold(July)____
B. Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of July 10, 2012 - (Att.-#2A)
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. BUDGET REPORT FOR SUMMER EVENTS IN 2012
– (Att.#4)(Finance Director)
5. PARK VANDALISM – DISCUSS SOLUTIONS/PLANS
–(Att.-5)(Planning Director)
6. DRAFT COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
– (Att.-#6)(Planning Director)
7. REVIEW COSTS AND FEASIBILITY OF MOVING HOCKEY RINK/LIGHTS
FROM BADGER PARK TO FREEMAN PARK
-(Att.#7)(Public Works Director)
8. REVIEW COSTS OF FENCING FOR COMMUNITY GARDENS
-(Att.#8)(Planning
Director)
9. REVIEW COST ESTIMATES FOR FENCING AT LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS
AT FREEMAN PARK
-(Att.-#9)(Public Works Director)
10. APPROVE PURCHASE OF PICNIC TABLES
-(Att.#10)(Memo)
11. REVIEW QUOTE FOR MANOR PARK TENNIS COURT
–(Att.#11)(Planning
Director)
12. NEW BUSINESS
13. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
(Staff reports and updates are not meant for discussion Discussion items will be listed
as part of new or old business.)
A. City Council
B. Staff
1. City Wide Tree Inventory – Park Plan
C. Work Program Update
14. ADJOURN
Liaison for City Council Meeting on August 27 - Gordon
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, JULY 10, 2012 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Quinlan convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Quinlan; Commissioners Edmondson, Hartmann, Gordon and
;
MangoldCity Council Liaison Hotvet; City Planner Nielsen; Finance
Director Bruce DeJong
Absent: Commissioners Swaggert and Kjolhaug
B. Review Agenda
Hartmann moved to approve the agenda as written. Gordon seconded the motion. Motion carried.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of June 12, 2012
Commissioner Edmondson moved to approve the minutes of the June 12, 2012 meeting as written.
Mangold seconded the motion. Motion carried.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. FINANCIAL/BUDGET REPORT
Bruce DeJong, Finance Director was present to address financial and budget items for the benefit of the Park
Commission. DeJong reviewed the operations portion of the budget as of the end of June. He discussed expenses
and transfers to the Park Outlay Fund. He stated it didn’t look like the total park operations budget would be
spent this year. He noted a lower amount would be budgeted for Twila’s salary in the next budget year. He
stated a recommendation to the City Council is needed for the overall recreation budget amount. He discussed the
purchase of picnic tables. Quinlan stated if the City Council will transfer the same amount from the General
Fund to the Parks Capital Improvements Fund as in previous years. DeJong noted there will be additional
amounts added which are from park dedication fees. Quinlan asked for clarification of the worksheet which
showed debits and credits. DeJong stated it is the total amount the City Council has allocated for recreation. He
noted the transfers are a method the City Council has used to see what is allocated overall. He further explained
that expenditures are tracked in the capital outlay fund.
Edmondson thanked staff for the clear and concise reports. Quinlan stated the balance sheet provided in
June shows a balance of about $180,000. DeJong stated the fund balance and the capital outlay fund are
different than the park fund. He stated it is the Commission’s choice to recommend what priority projects
will have and what will be funded.
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Nielsen stated staff met and discussed the recreational budget. He noted something needs to be adopted by
August 15. He stated something that needs to be discussed is rink attendants, and he asked DeJong what
happens when it is under budget. DeJong noted it will be part of the general fund budget at the end of the
year and will be unspent for 2012. He stated for 2013 it is hoped there will be a need for budgeting for
attendants. He noted it is an annual appropriation that does not carry over to the next year if unspent.
Gordon asked if there are separate budgets for parks and for recreation. DeJong agreed they are separate
budgets. He noted there was discussion in staff’s meeting about some items that will not be needed such as
staff duties that were taken over. Gordon noted the approved budget for recreation was $116,000 in 2012.
DeJong clarified the budget amount.
Nielsen discussed budget items for 2013. He stated park scheduling will be done by staff, Arctic Fever will
remain at $1500, there will be rink attendant expenses, and lifeguard expenses will increase. Nielsen stated
the Commission will need to recommend park programming. He reviewed the events held in 2012.
Quinlan believed the programs budget should be increased for the next year’s budget. Nielsen agreed a
little more money should be budgeted assuming the Commission agreed to continue with the same events.
DeJong stated the budget report for summer events in 2012 would be clarified in more detail for the next
meeting.
Nielsen stated there was interest in the Commission having jurisdiction over Gideon Glen which would
result in a budget increase. He stated additional information would be forthcoming. Gordon stated if it
becomes a park, there should be a sign there. Nielsen stated that has been discussed, but it would also note
it is a cooperative effort. Quinlan stated it needs to be determined if the Comp Plan needs to be changed for
this to become a park and what the process might be. Nielsen stated the amendment would be the first item
which would need a public hearing. It would then need to be incorporated into the CIP and become a part
of the budget. Edmondson stated there would be so many more opportunities for field trips and school
research once this becomes a park. Hartmann stated the MCWD also has educational opportunities.
Hotvet suggested adding a sign along County Road 19 showing how to get there. Quinlan stated there also
needs to be parking considerations as there is no parking now. Nielsen stated something is definitely
needed. Mangold stated it definitely needs to be considered if it is going to be part of the park system.
Commissioners discussed the budget for buckthorn removal on Attachment 4. DeJong stated the Council
decided not to do the entire program, and there are some grant opportunities. Hotvet noted there are three
phases, and this is the second phase. The third phase was large but wasn’t where there is a lot of activity.
She stated there isn’t a plan for when phase three will be completed.
Edmondson noted the money earmarked for tennis court resurfacing at Manor Park will not be done. He
hoped that the other Commissioners can comment on the budget at the next meeting or by email if they
cannot attend.
5. REVIEW COSTS AND FEASIBILITY OF MOVING HOCKEY RINK/LIGHTS FROM BADGER
PARK TO FREEMAN PARK
Quinlan stated staff was asked to provide costs to move the hockey rink and lights from Badger Park to Freeman
Park. He stated the information is not provided this evening. Nielsen stated the information can be provided at
the August meeting. He noted as the information was being gathered, there was talk about a rink that can be put
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up and taken down. He stated staff is recommending this not be done. He stated the lighting information has
been completed and will be provided with the other information requested.
6. REVIEW LONG RANGE PARK PLAN - CIP
Commissioners reviewed the long range park plan – CIP. Quinlan opened up discussions. Gordon began
by discussing the tennis court at Manor Park and if this would be an opportunity to talk about a sport
court. Quinlan noted that is the next agenda item and can be discussed next.
Edmondson stated at the skate park, there is talk of a picnic shelter at that location. Quinlan suggested
adding an outside border or fence around the community garden area. He stated it is difficult to talk about
Badger Park now without the information from Item 5.
Nielsen stated the border or fence is a good idea at the garden. Edmondson stated there is a lot of support
for a fence. Hartmann noted the Excelsior garden has a black fence around it, while Chanhassen has a
treated fence. The fence would be a good scout project as well. Quinlan stated all the gardens he has seen
have fences around them. Nielsen stated he would provide pictures of the various fences and bring costs
back as well. Mangold was concerned about fencing in that it is limiting the number of plots. Nielsen
stated it can be made so that the fence end can be moved. Hotvet explained the fence went up in Excelsior
because of the deer in the area.
Mangold did not think a park shelter should be at the skate park. The Commissioners concurred. Hotvet
suggested a seasonal shelter. Edmondson stated there are shade trees and available water. Quinlan stated
the allocation of new skate equipment should be discussed at some point. He noted the park is being used
less. Mangold stated it also needs to be considered if other skate parks are being instead and why. Gordon
stated it was also noted Chanhassen is being used less.
Hotvet suggested consideration be given to lighting in general in more of the parks. Gordon suggested
adding kickball leagues to the recreation budget. Edmondson suggested adding pickle ball. Nielsen stated
Frisbee golf is also becoming popular. Quinlan noted Freeman Park is the only option for a Frisbee golf
course.
Quinlan summarized additions: fence around garden and remove picnic shelter from the skate park.
Nielsen stated staff has noted the fencing at Freeman Park needs to be replaced, and cost estimates will be
brought back to the Commission. He stated the Little League organization brought it up this past spring,
and more detail will be brought back.
Gordon stated it would be nice to have a good backboard at Cathcart Park. The existing backboard is very
outdated. It was agreed to add this to the list.
7. MANOR PARK TENNIS COURT
Quinlan reviewed the cost estimate for a sport court at Manor Park in the amount of $32,147. He asked for input
from the Commission. Nielsen reviewed quote from Versa court for $25,000. Gordon stated she preferred the
Versa court which is less expensive with similar warranties. Nielsen stated he would prefer information on
maintenance costs. He noted there are grants available from the USTA to help with the cost. Mangold stated if
you are putting in a new court, the push is to get more play from younger players. Nielsen stated Hennepin
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County has a sport grant available which can be considered. Quinlan asked if there is any timing for the cost
estimate. Nielsen noted there isn’t any money budgeted for it this year. If we put it in first thing next spring, it
can be budgeted for next year.
Nielsen noted this court moves more than any other in the City and will be a good test for a new court.
Commissioners discussed the condition of the existing court.
Motion by Gordon to recommend moving forward with the versa court of sport court for Manor Park.
Hartmann seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Quinlan stated we need to understand ongoing maintenance (restriping, 7-10 year estimate), and provide a quote
to orient the courts for younger players. Edmondson stated he would recommend the City’s logo be added in the
middle if it is cost effective. Mangold stated the cost of surface prep for each estimate. Nielsen stated the versa
court estimate did include surface prep. Gordon noted the maintenance in Eden Prairie is very easy for their versa
court.
8. ADOPT-A-GARDEN PROGRAM UPDATE
Quinlan noted there are gardens in several of the parks. We wanted to review where we are at with our gardening
volunteers. Nielsen stated one of the things in question was the memorial garden at Freeman which is maintained
by the families that planted it to begin with. Quinlan noted the other gardens are looking good at all the parks.
Nielsen stated mulching will be added to all the gardens through budgeting in the future. Quinlan asked if the
stipend of $100 for the gardens was sufficient. Nielsen stated it is working well, and one of the volunteers gave
the money back. Edmondson asked how the Shirley Rice fund can be used. Quinlan stated there is $500 left, and
he suggested it be used as stipends in the future. Nielsen stated that fund is dedicated to needs in Manor Park
only.
9. NEW BUSINESS
None
10. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
No report.
B. Staff
Update on Steve Kircher, Eagle Scout Project
Great River Greening Buckthorn Removal at Freeman Park
Resurfacing Tennis Courts at Cathcart and Silverwood Parks
Update on Tree at Manor Park
Nielsen stated Kircher has indicated he will construct all seven message boards and a book exchange. The
City Council has approved more than was recommended. Kircher was urged to fund raise. Nielsen stated
staff will work with Kircher on the message board locations. Quinlan asked that information be provided to
the Park Commission on the message board locations. Nielsen stated he would provide the locations and
asked for comments on the locations.
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Nielsen stated he was unaware if the buckthorn removal at Freeman Park has been completed.
Nielsen stated the tree at Manor Park will be trimmed to the extent possible to remove the hazard conditions.
He noted neighbors would like it to remain in the park and not be removed.
C. Work Program Update
Quinlan noted there are no major changes to the work program.
Nielsen stated he will meet with Eagle Scout Hostetter about the nature trail this week. Hartmann
suggested benches be added. Nielsen asked if a standard for benches has been discussed. Gordon stated it
is important to consider the tree replacement. Quinlan stated that would be discussed at the next meeting.
11. ADJOURN
Edmondson moved, Gordon seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of July 10, 2012, at
8:50 p.m. Motion carried.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Planning Director, Brad Nielsen
Date: August 9, 2012
Re: Park Vandalism
At one of the park tours this past spring, Public Works Director, Larry Brown had indicated that park vandalism has
been on the rise this year.
Park Chair, Quinlan asked that this topic be placed on the agenda for the Park Commissioners to discuss the extent of
deter people from vandalizing the
the vandalism that was been done, and what solutions/plans can be done to help
park.
It should be noted that the skate park has surveillance signs and Eddy Station has surveillance cameras in
place, but not in operation.
Staff will attempt to frame the issues associated with vandalism for future discussions on how to resolve, or
at least mitigate them.
Cc: Larry Brown
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CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout – Recreation Coordinator
Reviewed By: Brad Nielsen
Date: August 9, 2012
Re: Purchase of Picnic Tables
Within the 2012 CIP, the Commission allocated $14,000 to purchase additional tables. In March staff purchased 11
tables at $7,917.30 leaving $6,082.70 in the budget. There are a total of 12 tables that are still needed to be purchased
and then all tables will have been replaced within the parks.
Staff contacted Midwest Playscapes and asked for a quote to see what the cost would be to purchase the 12 tables.
The cost is $8,567.30 (attached is the quote). This would be $2,484.60 over what was allocated in the budget.
The Park Commission will need to determine if they would like to purchase the 12 tables or if they would like to
purchase a smaller amount of tables to be within the budgeted amount. If the choice is to finish out the purchase, the
recommendation to do so would be scheduled for City Council consideration at its 27 August meeting.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION:
Upon review and discussion, the Park Commission will need to determine if they would like to award
the purchase of the picnic tables, limiting the number to what has been budgeted, or recommend to
the City Council that the current budget amount be amended to include all of the tables.
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2012 Work Program
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JanuaryFebruaryMarchApril MayJune JulyAugustSeptOctNovDec
SilverwoodSilverwood
completed
Resurface 1/2 Court
recd quote - pc appr. 2/28 -
Contact Derm-Co for tennis
sent contract to Derm-Co
court resurface
3/16/12
Cathcart
Resurface Tennis Courts
completed
recd quote - pc appr. 2/28 -
Contact Derm-Co for tennis
sent contract to Derm-Co
court resurface
3/16/12
Badger
Joint City Council meeting Held on February 28
Talk with Watershed to
see if they would like to be
involved
Review Planning and cost PC in process of
breaks reviewing/discussing
City Council Approval of
plans forBadger
Apply for Grants
Manor
Resurface Tennis Courts
Neighborhood mtg. 5/1/11
recd quote - pc mtg. 2/28 -
staff mtg. w/Dermco on 3/7
looking at EP court that has a
Contact Derm-Co for tennis
sport court. On 4/10 Pk
court resurface
Agenda. Getting quote for
sport court and versa
court.(6/12) On the August Pk
Agenda
All Parks
Picnic Tables 10-15 - To
Arrive @ P.W.
PC Approved - Ordered
Message Boards for
Cathcart, Skate Park and 2
for Freeman
Eagle Scout Project.
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