11-19-13 Park Commission Agenda PacketCITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2013 7:30 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Quinlan (August)
Edmondson (October)
Kjolhaug (June)
Hartmann (May)
Mangold (September)
Dietz (April & November)
Savaell (July)
B. Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of October 15, 2013 — (Att. - 42A)
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. NEW BUSINESS
5. BADGER PARK PLAN OPTIONS — (Att. - 45)
6. ARCTIC FEVER SNOW SCULPTURES — (Att. - 46)
7. FREEMAN PARK PICNIC SHELTER RE -ROOF — (Att. - 47)
8. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS /UPDATES
(S'taff reports and updates are not meant for discussion. Discussion items will be listed
as part of new or old business.)
A. Citv Council
B. Staff
9. ADJOURN
Liaison for Citv Council Meeting on No>ember 25 Dietz
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2013
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Quinlan convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
Chair Quinlan; Commissioners
Mangold, Dietz, and Savaell; (
Review Agenda
Quinlan suggested the dog park item (Item 5) be moved to
would like to discuss lighting in the parks under New Busii
as amended. Sawtell seconded the motion. Motion carried
2.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting
Mangold moved to al
seconded the motion.
3. MATTERS
There Nvere none.
5. SKATE PA:
Nick SNvaggert was pi
more Nvth just a, little
expanded in the future
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olhaug, Hartmann,
[sen, City Engineer Hornbv
the agenda. Mangold stated he
n moved to approve the agenda
as written. Hartmann
the skate park and proposed dog park site. He believed it Nvould be used
front and a few minor improvements. He believed the garden site can be
Edmondson asked if the compost bin is on the site. Swaggert noted it is outside the fence area next to the garden.
Edmondson asked if the dog park Nvould end up as barren as the other one he has seen. Swaggert stated the grass
Nvould deteriorate and N ood chips Nvould be needed.
SN -, aggert stated this is an unused park, and this is an opportunity for more use. Quinlan asked if the skate park is
even a use now. He stated the garden area has been successful. He believed there needs to be more discussion
about what should be at this park. He believed a dog park is a good idea.
Nielsen stated he didn't have time to pull together costs. Fencing Nvas discussed. Nielsen noted a conditional use
amendment Nvould be required for the new use which calls for a public hearing.
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Quinlan asked if there are any concerns with the use. Nielsen stated there wiill be a maintenance factor, whether it
is wvood chips or whatever material is used.
Mangold stated this is the perfect park for this. Sw-aggert stated owners are good at picking up dog wvaste.
Commissioners discussed usage fees. It wvas noted most dog parks have free admission.
Hartmann believed a six -foot fence wvould be needed. Sw-aggert stated there are probably dog park standards.
Quinlan suggested this and the skate park be on an agenda in the next couple
4. DISCUSS BADGER PARK PRELIMINARY DESIGN
Jason and Samantha from WSB were present to discuss the
step wvould be to refine the plan and incorporate recreational
Samantha reviewed the draft program elements of the park. Dietz o
be in the discussion. Nielsen stated it is part of the consideration,
the discussion. Nielsen stated as a result of increased parking, then
if this wv as a private development, w e would be required to enlar
system would also be created that is above and beyond what will be
can share with WSB.
Mangold stated free skating could also be a cons
skating because of salt from the parking lot causing
Mangold wv as concerned
consideration.
Commissioners discussed the
orientation is north/south, Kic
Jason reviewed the timeline
Nielsen discussed the possibility
issues. He stated the plan for Sc
Hartmann asked l
information will be
He stated the next
sked if the TON-,-n Square,clement should also
Dietz asked where the marsh expansion is in
pond will also have to be enlarged. He stated
,e the pond. Hornby stated a water quality
required. He stated he has a couple ideas he
pond will not work, well as free
into the olav�4round area. Jason stated that will be taken into
anon and whether it should be changed. Jason stated the preferred
for more information in writing on this issue.
the park elements and review the concept plan options.
g4he development of the park should it become necessary due to budget
Center is still uncertain.
be saved if the north/south orientation remains. Nielsen stated that
Jason stated the plan options will be developed in time for the November 12 meeting. The plan will include a
focal point for the pond and a town square feel.
Kjolhaug stated there will be real limitations on what can be done with the storm water pond. Jason suggested
seating areas to begin with. Hornby stated the first ten feet will be plants to filter the storm water.
6. CIP DISCUSSION
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Nielsen discussed the timing for approval of the CIP. He asked for comments on changes as submitted.
Quinlan reviewed additions made at the last meeting. Mangold asked about the Badger Park rustic trail.
Nielsen stated the trail is done. What is not done is the overpass which needs input from the Watershed and
is included in Badger Park improvements for 2014.
Commissioners and staff discussed lumping all the Badger Park improvements together.
Edmondson suggested going through 2013 to make sure ever, -thing has been completed and if not, move it.
Commissioners discussed the water source for Manor Park's garden area: Nielsen stated the plan is to
complete the Nvork this year by contracting it out. Kjolhaug asked if it is possible to use irrigation from
existing ponds. Nielsen stated it is certainly worth looking at. Kjolhaug stated it would certainly be less
expensive. Nielsen stated it would be a simpler solution to run'the'lme from the existing shelter.
Nielsen stated the signage for Gideon Glen will be completed this year, and the parking lot will be
completed in 2014. Quinlan stated they should be split into two separate items in that case. It was noted
the motion had been made to not exceed $15,000 for both items together. Commissioners discussed this.
Kjolhaug suggested $12,000 be earmarked for the sign. Kjolhaug suggested it be moved to 2014. He
stated that is a lot of money for a sign for a nature area.
Nielsen noted the sign estimate was about $870
in the amount of $8700 and the remainder in 20
Commissioners discussed
Edmondson was concerne
spring. Quinlan suggeste+
an estimate on the trim.
Kjolhaug
spring. 'I
Commissioners discussed the Fri
Nielsen stated we need to resolv
and aainti
Glen items will be split for 2013 for the sign
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work beginning so late in the season. He suggested it be tabled until
sup to the staff to use their discretion. Edmondson suggested getting
inting this timed year. Nielsen stated the quote Nvon't hold until
Edmondson stated he would be willing to keep an eye on the project.
;key rink, type of boards, cost for the project, and lighting.
will be done. A firm cost cannot be determined until that is
done. Commissioners discussed the amount which should be earmarked for the hockey rink. Nielsen stated
it will probably be bumped if the figure is too high.
Commissioners discussed,the rationale of putting a hockey rink. in Freeman Park. Quinlan suggested
putting $200,000 for a hockey rink. in Freeman Park in 2016. Commissioners discussed sharing the rink.
with Tonl.a Bay. Kjolhaug stated he would like to see a real number. Savaell stated a more accurate
number is needed. Mangold stated he would like it to remain at $40,000. Hartmann stated at least
$100,000 is appropriate; Edmondson concurred. Commissioners concurred.
Mangold moved to recommend changes to CIP: Gideons Glen split out signage in 2013 ($9,000) and
parking lot in 2014 ($6,000) as discussed and Freeman Park, increase hockey rink to $100,000 in 2015 and
to recommend a strong look at sharing the rink at Manitou Park with Tonka Bay in 2014. Hartmann
seconded the motion. Motion carried.
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7. EDDY STATION CONCESSION AGREEMENT FOR 2014
Commissioners reviewed the concession agreement for 2014 which is the same as this year. Kjolhaug stated he
Nyould like to see this offered to a sports team every year. Nielsen stated it has been done and no one Nyould
volunteer to Nyork. Hartmann stated it is something Nyorth looking into. Nielsen stated the person who does this
nosy is there for all the events.
Kjolhaug suggested a letter be sent to the youth programs before the concession agreement is executed for 2015.
Commissioners discussed whether a youth program Nyould be interested and if a4etter should be sent out. Nielsen
suggested a survey of the youth groups asking if they are happy Nth the service,or if they are interested in taking
it over.
Kjolhaug moved to recommend approval of the concession agreement for 2014 and to request a letter be
drafted to send to the youth groups in February or March offering the opportunity in 2015. Mangold
seconded the motion. Motion carried.
8. NOVEMBER PARK MEETING DATE
The November park meeting Neill be on Tuesday, November 12 at 7
9. NEW BUSINESS
Agenda items for the Park Summit meeting Nyere discussed
A. Park Lighting
Mangold stated he Nyould lik& to see «hat is being done about the lighting schedules in the parks. He
questioned whether they are running in the'parks v hen no one is around. He stated he would like to knovy
vyhat the schedules" are and whether the timers have arty flexibility. Nielsen believed the timers can be
adjusted.
whether
efficiency
Quinlan asked for additional
the information. He noted he
Edmondson urged the P
Council representatives:
January 27 — Kjolhaug
February 24 — Savaell
March 24 — Dietz
energy efficient. Nielsen stated staff does look at energy
ition for revievy at the next meeting. Nielsen stated he Neill try to get
not be at the meeting on November 12.
ission to attend the Appreciation Dinner on December 2.
12. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS /UPDATES
A. City Council
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Nielsen updated the Commission on recent City Council activities — how to spend money from house sale,
surpluses in sev, er /Neater funds, storm Neater fees, rate study.
B. Staff
Nielsen stated the SmithtoN -,n Trail is moving along slowly. He stated there Nvere drainage issues which slowed the
project. The Nvork Neill not be completed this fall as hoped.
11. ADJOURN
Hartmann moved, Sawtell seconded, to adjourn the Park
at 9:45 p.m. Motion carried.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder
of October 15, 2013
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Park Commission
From: Twila Grout — Recreation Coordinator /Administrative Assistant
Reviewed By: Jean Panchyshyn — City Clerk
Date: November 13, 2013
Re: Agenda Item 5 — Badger Park Concept Plan Options
WSB Landscape Architect Jason Amberg and Engineer Paul Hornby will be attending Tuesday night's park
meeting to present and answer questions on the Badger Park concept plans.
Once the Park Commission has determined which concept plan is desired, WSB will being on the cost
projection for that plan.
Attached are the two concept plans and standards for athletic field orientation.
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FIELD SPORTS
91 440 X 45 720 mm
(25 yds) at each end for ingoal
Men
(300 X 150 ft)
gport
Use area required
Playing area.
Orientation
Drainage
Comments
Bocce
5.7 to 7.7 m X 24.6303 m
3 962.4 to 5 791.2 mm X
North south preferred
Drain in any
250 to 300 mm wooden
(19 to 25 ft 6 in X
23 400 -27 600 mm
but not critical
direction at 1 %m
boards used at end
Football
82 -101 ft)
(13 to 19 ft 6 iin X78-92 ft)
111.6 m (172 X 372 ft)
and side as backstops
Bowling (lawn)
39 X 39 m (130 X 130 ft)
5 791.2 to 6 400.8 mm X
(19 to 21 ft X
Dead leve8—
Alleys grouped in
Horseshoes
6 X 21 m (20 X 70 ft)
36 576 mm
120 ft) alleys
use underdrainage
banks of six
cricket
Size varies, but area
No official size
Women
Boundaries set by referee;
generally oval with no
for field, but pitch is
(150 ft), length 109 728-
part of boundary closer
20 116.8 X 3 048 mm
Men
60 X 105 m (200 X
Prefer 54 864 X 100 584
than 70 m (75 yds) to pitch
(66 X 10 ft)
66 X 111 m (220 X
be played on football field
Croquet
3.5 X 22.5 m (45 X 75 ft)
12 192 X 21 336 mm
Orient so that
Drain as in A'" at
91 440 X 48 768 mm
safety area
(40 X 70 ft) (smaller size
bleachers do not
a maximum slope of 2
91 440 X 60 960 mm
is appropriate for
face sun
-3 000 mm
Quoits
Allow 1 500 -3 000 mm
nonregulation play)
(5.10 ft) at side and back
-3 000 mm
Fieldball
Identical to soccer field
Identical to soccer field
Identical to soccer field
Identical to soccer field
Identical to soccer field
Field hockey
Women
54.86 X 91.44 m
91 440 X 45 720 mm
(25 yds) at each end for ingoal
Men
(300 X 150 ft)
Mien
North- south, except Same as football
91 440 X 54 864 mm
free of obstructions -120 yds) 68.58 X 10913 m
south of 38th parallel
(300 X 180 ft)
Flag or touch
40 X 95 m (44 X 104 yds)
12 192 X 30 480 mm
football
approach 20 degrees
(40 X 100 yds)
west of north
[includes two 9 m
(10 yd) end zones)
Football
Minimum 51.6 X
48 768 X 109 728 mm
111.6 m (172 X 372 ft)
(160 X 360 ft)
(including two 9 m
(10 yd) end zones)
Horseshoes
6 X 21 m (20 X 70 ft)
3 048 X 15 240 mm
(10X50 ft)
Lacrosse
Women
Boundaries set by referee;
minimum width 45 720 mm
(150 ft), length 109 728-
124 968 mm (360 -410 ft)
Men
60 X 105 m (200 X
Prefer 54 864 X 100 584
350 ft) with fence;
mm (180 X 330 ft), but can
66 X 111 m (220 X
be played on football field
370 ft) 'without fence
Polo
Play area includes
91 440 X 48 768 mm
safety area
(300 X 160 yds) if boarded,
91 440 X 60 960 mm
(300 X 200 yds) if not
-3 000 mm
Quoits
Allow 1 500 -3 000 mm
16 459.2.21 945.6 mm X
(5.10 ft) at side and back
-3 000 mm
boundaries
(54 -72 ft X -10 ft)
Rogue
120 X 210 m (40 X 70 ft)
9 144 X 18 288 mm
(30 X 60 ft)
Rugby
100.6 X 54.9 m
(League-
(110 X 60 yds)
professional
plus 5.5 -11 m
(6 -12 yds) at
each end for ingoal
(union - amateur)
Speedball
Same as football Same as football
Same as football
Same as football
Same as football
Same as football
Long axis, northwest Drain as In A, B or C"
to southeast, or are permitted but
north -south for not preferred; provide
longer season adequate underdrainage
Long axis, north -south Drain as in "A "; two end
pegs must have identical elevation
Same as football Same as football
Same as football Same as football
Same as horseshoes Same as horseshoes
Same as croquet Dead level; use
underground drainage
Same as football Same as football
Surface is packed earth
100.6 X 54.9 m Same as football Same as football
(110 X 60 yds) plus 22.8 m
54.86 X 91.44 m
(25 yds) at each end for ingoal
Men
48.77 X 109.73 m
9 m (10 yds) on all sides 50 -70 m X 90.110 m X 100
North- south, except Same as football
There are no official
free of obstructions -120 yds) 68.58 X 10913 m
south of 38th parallel
standards for soccer
(75 X 120 yds) for
where long axis may
size varies even among
championship
approach 20 degrees
Olympic sites
west of north
Women
54.86 X 91.44 m
(60 X 100 yds)
Men
48.77 X 109.73 m
(53 1/3 X 120 yds)
'When not specified, no standard exists; 9 m (14 yds) is recomme"ded on all sides.
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5755 Country Club Road • Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 • 952- 960 -7900
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To: Park Commissioners
From: Twila Grout — Park Coord. /Admin. Asst.
Reviewed By: Jean Panchyshyn — City Cleric
Date: November 13, 2013
Re: Arctic Fever Snow Sculptures
Last year the Park Commission sponsored the Arctic Fever snow sculpture event that tools place at Badger Park field.
The event Nvas held on Friday evening from 5:30 -8:30.
Public Works has said that they Neill make the snow cubes again. The Snow sculptures Nvere carved during the Nveek
before the Friday event by those that signed up to do a sculpture. I have attached the registration form that Nvas used
last year.
That Friday evening people Nvere able to tour the sculptures and vote for their favorite. The Nvinners Nvere announced
that night. There Nvere prizes for the 1" 2 a and -1 place. The Park Commission received donations from Hazelwood,
Team Liquor and Biella for the prizes. Pizza, coffee and cider Nvere served at the Southshore Center.
Park Commissioner Bob Edmondson has talked Nvith Joey Nova's and they Neill provide the pizza.
Last year the Park Commissioners supplied fire pits and Public Works provided the Nvood; the Commission also
obtained the prizes and volunteers.
Sue Davis Neill be present at Tuesday night's meeting to answer any questions.
The Park Commission Neill need to decide if they Nvould like to sponsor the Arctic Fever snow sculpture event on
Friday, Januarv, 17, 2014.
krCtiC Fever Snow Sculpture
registration Forth
Public Works will fill the cube with snow in locations at Badger Park (5745 Country Club Road).
Teams can begin their sculpture the weekend of January 12th and work all week. Lights will be on in the
field at night until 10:00 p.m. so that teams can work on their sculpture. Sculptures are to be completed
by 5:30 p.m., Friday, January 18th
Attendees will vote and prizes will be awarded Friday evening, January 18th at the Southshore
Community Center, 5735 Country Club Rd.
Yes! I wou.Ld Ulze to register for a sv►ow cube.
Name of Team:
Contact Person:
Address:
City, State, ZIP Code:
Phone Number:
E -mail Address:
Please check which size snow cube you would like:
❑We would like the small 4' x 6' snow cube
❑We would like the tall 6' x 4' snow cube
I AGREE TO HOLD HARMLESS THE ARCTIC FEVER COMMITTEE, THE CITY OF
SHOREWOOD, INCL UDING STAFF AND PUBLIC WORKS, COMMISSIONS AND CITY
COUNCIL, FOR ANYLIAIBILITY, DAMAGE, INJURY, VANDALISM, LOSS OR CLAIM THAT
OCCURS IN CONNECTION WITH SNOW SCULPTURE EVENT LOCATED AT BADGER PARK
5745 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD.
Signature
Date
Please forward completed form to:
City of Shorewood, c% Twila Grout, 5755 Country Club Road, Shorewood, MN 55331
Or Fax to 952- 474 -0128, or email to tgrout(a ci.shorewoot/. mn.us
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To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout — Administrative Assistant
Date: November 14, 2013
Re: Agenda Item 7— Freeman Park Picnic Shelter Re -Roof
Planning Director, Brad Nielsen will be providing information on the Freeman Park picnic shelter re -roofs at
the Tuesday night meeting.