05-10-16 Park Comm Agenda
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2016 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Mangold(Aug 29)____
Vassar(July 25) ____
Kobs(June 27)_____
Rock(May 23)_____
B. Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of April 26, 2016 – (Att.-#2A)
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. REVIEW GRADING PLAN FOR BADGER FIELD
(Att. #4)
5. DISCUSS HOCKEY RINKS AT THE PARKS
(Att. #5)
6. REVEIW JUNE AND JULY PARK TOUR AGENDAS
(Att.-#6)
7. DETERMINE VICE-CHAIR
8. NEW BUSINESS
9. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
(Staff reports and updates are not meant for discussion. Discussion items will be listed
as part of new or old business.)
A. City Council
B. Staff
1. Service Project Request (Att-#9B1)
10. ADJOURN
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, APRIL 26, 2016 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Mangold convened the meeting at 7:05 p.m.
A. Roll Call
;
Present: Chair Mangold, Commissioners Vassar, Kobs and RockCity Council
Liaison Deb Siakel; City Planner Nielsen
Absent: Stelmachers
B. Review Agenda
Kobs moved to approve the agenda as written. Rock seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of March 22, 2016
Rock moved to approve the minutes of the March 22, 2016 meeting as Kobs requested Item 4
be updated to include bids were solicited from Astro Turf, FieldTurf and Sprint Turf, and
FieldTurf came back with the most accurate bid. Rock seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-
0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. UPDATE ON BADGER PARK
Nielsen stated following Council approval of the FieldTurf bid, legislation was introduced that would put a
moratorium on fields with crumb rubber fill. Staff asked the vendor about it, and he stated that same
legislation was considered the previous year with nothing happening. We won’t know until May 13 if the
legislation will continue. Staff is recommending going forward with the intent to change direction should
the legislation be approved. Council was comfortable moving forward until there is scientific proof that the
material is a problem.
Nielsen stated the grading plan for the field is underway. The bid received had a practice field. They are
asking now for a 45’ x 90’ field which would be larger than the previously approved 30’ x 90’ field.
Mangold believed it would fit but would be right up against hockey.
Nielsen stated staff would be in contact with the engineer about modifying the grading plan should the Park
Commission give the go ahead on the revised practice field size.
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Vassar asked why the practice field needs to be widened. Steve Well stated as long as they are constructing
the field, the decision was made to do it right. Vassar was concerned about cutting into the play area.
Mangold stated there isn’t a structure play area design yet. It doesn’t mean we will end up with less play
area than what we have now. Nielsen didn’t think going another 15 feet would be drastically different. As
we move forward, maybe the decision could be made to have one rather than two play areas.
Rock stated as long as we don’t go over the 45’, he didn’t have a problem. Nielsen stated the concept plan
would need to be revised. Parking would be added as the second phase.
Mangold didn’t think 45 feet was a problem in the concept plan, we would have short term issues if the
hockey rink remains. Nielsen stated the rink can be removed any time. The shelter could also be removed
but could continue to be used for summer events until it is removed.
Mangold discussed the need to get from the nature trail to the bottom corner of the lacrosse field. He felt it
should be done now. Nielsen agreed stating he had talked to the engineer about it. For whatever reason, it
became complicated. He would talk to the engineer again. Mangold discussed trail options and asked for
further information. Nielsen stated the existing trail needs to be rejuvenated with Ag lime.
Mangold asked if there was anything in motion on the lights and adjustments needed there. Nielsen stated
the hope would be to have the lights remain with possible redirection. Mangold stated we need to get going
on talking to an electrician on options.
Rock asked if there would be any concern about moving forward with the field should the legislation be
adopted. Nielsen stated the design would remain the same no matter what material is used. Vassar asked if
it would make more sense to change the product now than later. Nielsen stated it would be the cost of
removing the old crumb rubber. The simple fact is the scientific data shows there are no bad effects.
Nielsen asked for direction on widening the practice field.
Mangold believed the Park Commission would not be opposed to moving forward with the crumb rubber.
As far as moving forward with the widened field, he was unsure of what should be done. Nielsen stated the
grading plan should be completed and brought back to the May 8 meeting.
5. SKATE PARK FUTURE
Nielsen stated we have discussed a number of items dealing with the skate park. The question
remained which was how much does it get used. If we are going to keep it as a skate park, it needs
money. There had been discussion about turning it into a dog park. There is a nice community garden
area there which could be expanded. One of the things that occurred to him was to use the existing
pavement for a pickle ball court which is becoming more popular. He suggested a small survey be
done of what could be at the park.
Mangold stated a survey was done for that park, the dog park being the main issue, but there were
other questions. He recommended staying away from surveys unless there is something we specifically
want to know about.
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Mangold stated the skate park structure needs to be completely replaced. He stated we need to decide
whether it should continue as a skate park. He didn’t believe there has been enough use to keep it in
operation. Siakel stated there is value in the secondary market for the structures.
Kobs asked what the timeline is for removal and if they are dangerous. Nielsen stated the edges are
curling and could be dangerous. Siakel suggested a notice be put in the newsletter stating it will be
closed if that is the decision.
Mangold stated we have been discussing closing it down for a year now. It needs to change and be
developed into something different.
Mangold moved, Kobs seconded to recommend staff find out how to get rid of the structures
and close it down. Motion carried 4-0.
Mangold stated Public Works should create more garden spaces. Commissioners discussed garden
spaces, expansion, and location of new spaces.
6. CATHCART TRAIL
Commissioners reviewed the TKDA trail concept. Nielsen reviewed the trail location. Nielsen stated the
plan would be to connect the trail back to the LRT. Mangold believed a final plan should be brought to
Chanhassen with numbers.
Vassar believed the park design is underwhelming. She asked what else could be done to get Chanhassen
to want to help. Nielsen stated the park benefits Chanhassen residents more than it does Shorewood
residents. He did think the trail system would be appealing. He stated he would create information
showing the trail system. Following additional discussion, Nielsen stated more of an aerial presentation
would be created showing how it ties into the entire trail system and developments in Chanhassen.
7. NEW BUSINESS
None
8. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Siakel updated the Park Commission on recent City Council actions.
B. Staff
Nielsen suggested the Commission discuss times for the park tours. He did note they were done later in the year,
and the parks were in better condition. He stated Public Works prefers it be later.
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9. ADJOURN
Kobs moved, Rock seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of April 26, 2016 at 8:15 p.m.
Motion carried 4-0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder
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CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout – Park & Rec Coordinator/Admin. Asst.
Date: May 6, 2016
Re: Review Grading Plan For Badger Field
The grading plan will be available at Tuesday nights meeting.
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CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park Commission
FROM:
Brad Nielsen
DATE:
6 May 2016
RE: Hockey Rink Replacement
FILE NO.
Parks (Hockey)
For the past three or so years the Park Commission has discussed various options for replacing the hockey
rink that will be removed from Badger Park. Several alternatives for doing something at Freeman Park have
been considered, the most recent of which was to install a smaller scale portable rink system across the north
end of the parking lot near Eddy Station. Before staff obtains up-to-date quotes for this concept, we would
like to make sure that the Park Commission is still in agreement on this approach, especially since we have
three members who were not involved in the earlier discussions.
Attached is a memorandum from 2014 that attempts to answer questions regarding a portable rink system.
Cc: Debbie Siakel
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
2016 PARK TOURS
The Shorewood Park Commission has set aside two days for
touring the parks. The first tour is scheduled for:
June 14, 2016
Meet at Freeman Park Eddy Station at 6:00 p.m.
Tours Start at 6:15 p.m.
Tour
Freeman Park
Cathcart Park
Gideon Glen
Badger Park
Majority of the City Council May be Present.
No Action Will be Taken.
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
2016 PARK TOURS
The Shorewood Park Commission has set aside two days for
touring the parks. The second tour is scheduled for:
July 12
at 6:00 p.m.
Tours start at Manor Park at 6:15
Tour
Manor Park
South Shore Community Park (Skate Park)
Silverwood Park
Christmas Lake Access
Majority of the City Council May be Present.
No Action Will be Taken.
Twila Grout
From:Kale'a Kjolhaug [kal.kjol@gmail.com]
Sent:Tuesday, April 19, 2016 11:29 AM
To:Twila Grout
Subject:Project
Follow Up Flag:Follow up
Flag Status:Flagged
Hi Twila,
My name is Kale'a Kjolhaug and I live in Shorewood. I'm a senior at Minnetonka high school right now, and am
in a unique academic program that requires some kind of service project. I'm especially interested in birds and
the outdoors, and have noticed that some of the parks around the area have few bird houses. I was wondering if
I could put up some houses myself in parks such as Freeman or Badger to provide a safe nesting area for birds
and also some natural entertainment for park-goers. I really think adding houses would add to the parks'
already-existing beauty and possibly provide an opportunity for individuals who would like to monitor the nest
boxes to do so (I bluebird monitor through Three Rivers Parks).
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this! Have a great day.
Kale'a Kjolhaug
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