09-13-16 Park Comm Agenda
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13, 2016 7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
A. Roll Call
Mangold(Aug 29)____
Vassar(Oct 24) ____
Kobs_____
Rock(Nov 28)_____
Barr(Sept 26)_____
B. Review Agenda
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of August 23, 2016 – (Att.-#2A)
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. REVIEW UPDATES OF CIP -
(Att.-#4)
5. CATHCART TRAIL REVISION -
(Att.-#5)
6. FREEMAN PARK -
(Att.-#6)
A. South Parking Lot Pavement
B. Grading/Lighting for Future Rink
7. NEW BUSINESS
8. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
(Staff reports and updates are not meant for discussion. Discussion items will be listed
as part of new or old business.)
A. City Council
B. Staff
9. ADJOURN
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB RD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, AUGUST 23, 2016 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Mangold convened the meeting at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
;
Present: Chair Mangold, Commissioners Rock, Vassar, and BarrCity Council
Liaison Woodruff; Finance Director Bruce DeJong and City Planner
Nielsen
Absent: Kobs
B. Review Agenda
Mangold moved to approve the agenda as written. Rock seconded the motion. Motion carried
4-0.
C. Introduction of New Park Board Member Molly Barr
Mangold welcomed Molly Barr, the new Park Board member.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of May 10, 2016
B. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of May 23, 2016
C. Park Commission Park Tour Notes of June 28, 2016
D. Park Commission Park Tour Notes of July 26, 2016
Rock moved to approve the minutes of the May 10 and May 23, 2016 meeting as written.
Vassar seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
Rock moved to approve the park tour notes of the June 28, 2016 meeting as written. Vassar
seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
Rock moved to approve the park tour notes of the July 26, 2016 meeting as written. Barr
seconded the motion. Motion carried 4-0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REVIEW CIP
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Bruce DeJong, Finance Director
, reviewed budget vs. actual for all park items. He stated there were no
issues with the operating budget for park programs. He discussed plans to shut down the skate park which
will remove this item from the CIP, and Badger Park Phase I changes to the field and parking. He stated
the intent is to remove the parking lot out of the Phase I improvements.
DeJong discussed proposed contributions for the Badger Park play field which included funding from
grants, donations, and park dedication fees. Park dedication fees would be around $780,000 which will not
all be paid in 2016.
DeJong discussed the 2017 park improvement fund. The second phase of Badger Park will be moved to
2019.
Vassar asked for clarification of the date. DeJong stated that was Council direction to do that. He stated
the second installment of park dedication fees will not be enough to fund the second phase.
Mangold explained the City Council wants to improve Badger Park as funds become available. Nielsen
stated the parking lot is part of the first phase. The Park Commission needs to take a look at what is
needed and whether an additional phase might be warranted.
Mangold stated parking is one of our major issues. We’re improving the fields and haven’t changed the
parking dynamics as a result. He didn’t think it would be realistic to wait until 2019 to address the issue.
He also believed the CIP should be reviewed in a timely manner. DeJong agreed parking lot improvements
need to be done sooner rather than later.
Mangold also believed playground equipment is in dire need of replacement. Vassar asked what the
options and timeline are for replacing playground equipment. Nielsen stated we need to have a good sense
of where the equipment will be located. He suggested as we get into details of park planning, we should
consider whether two kinds of equipment are needed or they could be combined. DeJong stated money
earmarked for playground equipment for Silverwood in 2018 could be made available for Badger.
Mangold discussed the role of the Park Commissioners.
DeJong stated there is another major change from last year’s approval. We’ve been told the tennis courts
at Badger can no longer be repaired and need to be rebuilt. He discussed the cost of replacement.
Vassar asked what needs to happen at the Freeman parking lot. Nielsen stated there is a request from
residents to pave the south parking lot, but the number in the CIP might be for the north location. DeJong
stated there is a rough estimate from WSB of $85,000 for the south parking lot.
Mangold suggested reviewing all the line items for the other parks. DeJong suggested an item be added for
the parking lot improvements for Badger in 2017.
Freeman Park
1. Plaza – no change needed
2. Playground equipment – the south side is in worse shape than the north side, and the CIP says the north
side. Nielsen agreed and asked if it could be moved out. The Commission agreed it is the south lot that
needs replacement. Mangold suggested a chart which would indicate when items are pushed. DeJong
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stated a lot has been done in the last couple years to rationalize the CIP. Anything that has been pushed
was because of financing issues. He stated he wouldn’t worry about it at this year. Mangold stated the
playground should be replaced after Badger in 2020.
3. Parking lot – Commissioners discussed when the parking lot work should be done. Woodruff stated a
group came to the City Council requesting the south lot be surfaced. He stated he would like the Park
Commission to take a position on this issue. He indicated the residents want the lot surfaced immediately.
Woodruff stated staff should come back to the City Council to discuss how it could be done. Mangold
stated it should have a vote here before it goes to the City Council. Nielsen stated a place should remain in
the CIP for the parking lot.
4. Lighting – Nielsen stated this refers to ball field lights. There is still an issue with the lighting at the
skating rink. He was unaware why the ball field lights were an issue as most games are played during
daylight hours. Woodruff stated this is the Park Commission’s CIP. If they do not understand what is in
there, they should be explained by staff or removed. Nielsen suggested there is money for lights, and they
could be moved to 2017. Mangold suggested they be labeled properly. Mangold suggested a realistic
number be added when available and to eliminate the ballfield lighting now.
Mangold moved, seconded by Vassar to make changes as discussed. Motion carried 4-0.
Cathcart Park
1. Resurfacing – on a set schedule and should remain on the CIP as stated.
2. Hockey boards – cost will be significantly more than indicated. Mangold asked for thoughts on the cost
of a full-sized. Nielsen stated he could provide that information. Commissioners discussed the cost of
hockey boards. Nielsen stated he didn’t see any problem with pushing this out to 2020 for $150,000 and
make a note to get a real number for this.
3. Tot lot in 2018 – Mangold stated this is in rough shape. Vassar stated the dollar amount needs to be
raised to $100,000
4. Parking lot in 2018. Mangold believed it should be removed as many other amenities would need to be
relocated for it to happen. The item was removed from the CIP.
Mangold moved, Rock seconded by to move hockey boards to 2020, leave playground in 2018 and raise to
$100,000, and eliminate the parking lot. Motion carried 4-0.
Silverwood Park
1. Playground equipment – in good shape. Mangold stated the swing and playground equipment should be
combined as one item. He suggested the amount be raised to 2023 for $100,000.
Mangold believed there should be a discussion of all playground equipment and determine what should be
installed at each park.
Mangold moved, Rock seconded to move playground equipment and swing into one line item and raise to
$100,000, moving it out to 2023.
Skate Park
1. Park shelter – remove from the CIP
2. Pickleball court option – Mangold stated with the skate park leaving this park, residents suggested a
pickleball court be added. He asked if we want pickleball and how soon. Vassar asked how soon one
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could be constructed. Nielsen stated he wouldn’t count on it for this year, but next year would be an
option. Mangold suggested it be added in 2017 for $50,000. Rock suggested a picnic shelter be added.
Mangold moved, Vassar seconded to remove the park shelter from the park in 2020 and add the
pickleball court in 2017 for $50,000. Motion carried 4-0.
Badger Park
Mangold discussed park options. DeJong stated our out-of-pocket expenses are roughly $200,000.
DeJong explained the athletic field construction costs and items removed and remaining in the construction
costs. Nielsen discussed problems associated with the lighting and need for rewiring all four poles.
DeJong stated $313,900 was remaining and rounded up to $390,000 to include contingencies.
Mangold stated the tennis court reconstruction is shown on 2018 for resealing only. He believed it needs to
be prioritized sooner than 2019. DeJong noted the parking lot is included in the financial management
plan. Mangold believed something should be done in Badger every year. DeJong discussed issues arising
with the future of the Southshore Center. Woodward stated there would be resolution to the ownership
issue by the end of this year. He suggested the Commission assume the City will still be operating the
Center and plan accordingly.
Mangold moved, Rock seconded to recommend $400,000 be added in 2017 for phase 1
improvements. Motion carried 4-0.
DeJong stated he would bring back revisions for review.
5. RECAP OF PARK TOURS
A. Update on Badger Field
B. Update on Skate Park
C. Review Cost for Grading/Lighting for Freeman Park Future Rink
D. Cathcart Trail
E. Crescent Beach
Nielsen stated we talked about a lot of this information during the CIP discussion. He stated the gutters
aren’t in at Manor Park shelter.
Vassar suggested the trunk of the tree at Manor Park be carved should the tree not remain. Nielsen was
unsure if one could carve willow.
Nielsen updated the Commission on construction progress at Badger Field. Mangold asked if there are any
other projects in Badger that need to be done. Nielsen stated there will still be some seeding work.
Mangold asked when the skate park equipment would be removed. Nielsen stated it should be removed yet
this fall.
No information was available on the cost for grading/lighting for Freeman Park future rink. Mangold
stated we need numbers to make a decision for this year. Nielsen stated they are looking at costs.
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Vassar asked what other lighting would there be since it is so secluded. Nielsen stated he would check out
lighting options.
Nielsen stated they will redo the plan for Cathcart to indicate the trail location and provide the information
to Chanhassen. It will be ready for the September meeting.
Woodruff discussed shared maintenance with Tonka Bay on Crescent Beach. He discussed the current
agreement.
6. DETERMINE NOVEMBER PARK COMMISSION MEETING DATE
Nielsen stated the November meeting is on Election Day, and the meeting needs to be rescheduled.
Commissioners agreed the meeting should be on November 22. The October meeting was also moved to
October 25.
7. DETERMINE LIAISONS FOR COUNCIL MEETINGS
Mangold – August
Barr – September
Vassar – October
Rock – November
8. NEW BUSINESS
None
9. STAFF AND LIAISON REPORTS/UPDATES
A. City Council
Woodruff reported Shorewood won the Hennepin County Step to It Challenge. He discussed plans for the
SWPPP development. The Comprehensive Plan will also be revised in the near future. The general fund levy
and budget were adopted.
B. Staff
Nielsen discussed trail construction. A ribbon cutting will be held on September 12.
10. ADJOURN
Vassar moved, Rock seconded, to adjourn the Park Commission Meeting of August 23, 2016 at 9:01
p.m. Motion carried 4-0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Clare T. Link
Recorder
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CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
To: Park Commission
From: Twila Grout – Administrative Assistant
Date: September 8, 2016
Re: Agenda Item 4 – Review Updates of CIP
Finance Director, Bruce DeJong will be providing updates of the CIP at the Tuesday night meeting.
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900
Fax: 952-474-0128 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us
MEMORANDUM
TO:
Park Commission
FROM:
Brad Nielsen
DATE:
9 September 2016
RE: Agenda Items – 13 Sept. Meeting
FILE NO.
(Parks – Admin.)
Following is information related to Items 5 and 6 on next Tuesday’s agenda:
Item 5.
Staff continues to work on a graphic representation of the perimeter trail for Cathcart Park,
based on the TKDA concept plan for the park. The City Engineer has estimated the cost of constructing
the trail between $45 and $50 per linear foot for a six-foot bituminous trail. Based on the TKDA plan,
this would amount to approximately $67,050 to $74,500. The Commission should review that plan to
determine if it can be reduced in length somehow. Finally, Public Works did a nice job constructing the
trail in Freeman Park. We should find out from the Public Works Director if that might be a possibility
for our other parks.
Item 6.
Freeman Park south parking lot pavement. The City Engineer has estimated the cost of
paving the south parking lot in Freeman Park to be approximately $85,000.
We will have a rough estimate of the cost of leveling the north end of the north parking lot in Freeman
Park for purposes of skating prior to Tuesday night’s meeting.
Cc: Bruce DeJong
Larry Brown
Twila Grout
Paul Hornby
Joe Pazandak
Dick Woodruff