08-04-15 Planning Comm Mtg Agenda
SOUTHSHORE COMMUNITY CENTER
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5735 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, 4 AUGUST 2015 7:00 P.M.
A G E N D A
CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL / (LIAISON) SCHEDULE
BEAN (Jul) ______
JOHNSON (Aug) ______
DAVIS (May) ______
GENG (Apr) ______
MADDY (Jun) ______
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
7 July 2015
1. 7:00 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING – C.U.P. FOR FILL IN EXCESS OF 100 CU. YDS.
Applicant: Bob Morlock
Location: 24975 and 24995 Glen Road
2. 7:10 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING – FORMAL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
AMENDMENT AND CONCEPT STAGE APPROVAL FOR A PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT OF THE MINNETONKA COUNTRY CLUB PROPERTY
Applicant: Mattamy Homes
Location: 24575 Smithtown Road
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
4. OLD BUSINESS / NEW BUSINESS
5. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
6. REPORTS
Liaison to Council
SLUC
Other
7. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, JULY 7, 2015 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Geng called the meeting to order at 7:02 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chair Geng; Commissioners Bean, Davis, Johnson and Maddy; Planning Director
Nielsen; and Council Liaison Woodruff
Absent: None
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Maddy moved, Davis seconded, approving the agenda for July 7, 2015, as presented. Motion passed
5/0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
June 2, 2015
Bean moved, Johnson seconded, approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of June 2,
2015, as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
1. PUBLIC HEARING – ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT – SIGNS IN THE R-C,
RESIDENTIAL-COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT
Applicant: Todd Frostad
Chair Geng opened the Public Hearing at 7:03 P.M., noting the procedures used in a Public Hearing. He
explained the Planning Commission is comprised of residents of the City of Shorewood who are serving
as volunteers on the Commission. The Commissioners are appointed by the City Council. The
Commission’s role is to help the City Council in determining zoning and planning issues. One of the
Commission’s responsibilities is to hold public hearings and to help develop the factual record for an
application and to make a non-binding recommendation to the City Council. The recommendation is
advisory only. He noted that if the Planning Commission makes a recommendation this evening this item
will go before the City Council on July 27. He stated this evening the Planning Commission is going to
consider an amendment to sign regulations.
Director Nielsen explained Todd Frostad owns the South Lake Office Building located at 23505 County
Road 19. The property is zoned R-C, Residential/Commercial. Mr. Frostad has requested an amendment
to the sign regulations for properties located in R-C Districts so they are treated similarly to other
commercial zoning districts (specifically the C-1, General Commercial District) that provide for signage
in scale with the size of the property and the building located thereon. Mr. Frostad is not asking for the
same amount of signage as is allowed in the C-1 District. He would like to have the same concept as
allowed in the C-1 District. In the C-1 District properties are allowed to have signage totaling in area 10
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percent of the building silhouette as viewed from the street. That can be divided among three signs one of
which can be a pylon sign.
Currently, the R-C District allows such properties to have two signs, one of which can be a freestanding
sign, no larger than 20 square feet. The other sign must be a wall sign. Total signage must not exceed 36
square feet in total. These requirements apply to any property in the R-C District, regardless of the size of
the property or the size of the structure on the property.
Mr. Frostad’s building is the largest building in all of the R-C Districts. Yet, he is not allowed to have any
more signage than the smallest buildings in the Districts. His building is located near a minor arterial
roadway.
The applicant has proposed a standard similar in concept to the one in the C-1 District for the R-C District
– 5 percent of the building silhouette, with a maximum of 40 square feet for the freestanding sign (one
half of what is allowed in the C-1 District). He also proposed the current height limitation for freestanding
signs of five feet high be increased to eight feet. Lastly, the applicant proposed that the location
requirement for an illuminated freestanding sign be reduced from 200 feet to 100 feet from a residential
district boundary. If the distance is less than 100 feet, the sign would have to be screened from view of
residential properties. There is very adequate screening along the west side of the applicant’s property.
The provision that prohibits a sign from being lit between the hours of 9:00 P.M. and 7:00 A.M. remains
as is.
Nielsen displayed a graphic of a sign that is 40 square feet provided by the applicant. That sign would not
be visible from the residential units on the west.
Nielsen noted that staff thinks the proposal has merit and recommends approval of the amendment.
Todd Frostad, representing the South Lake Office Building, LLC, thanked the Planning Commission for
considering his request. He noted that he worked with Director Nielsen to ensure what he has proposed is
reasonable and appropriate because it would affect all of the R-C Districts in the City. He explained that
the requirements for natural screening were preserved in the amendment to ensure the boundary was
protected. The amendment does not ask for the same rights as the C-1 District. He then explained his
current freestanding sign is located a long distance from the driveway entrance onto the property and he
would like to move the sign closer to the entrance. That is why he proposed the reduction to 100 from the
residential district boundary.
Commissioner Bean asked Mr. Frostad why he needs bigger signs. Mr. Frostad explained 20 square feet
is quite limited and it is difficult to legibly recognize the wording on the sign when traveling at speeds of
45 miles per hour (mph) and noted the posted speed is not 45 mph. The sign area is broken up between
four tenants in his building.
Seeing no one present to comment on the case, Chair Geng opened and closed the Public Testimony
portion of the Public Hearing at 7:16 P.M.
Commissioner Bean asked if there are regulations about the construction and nature of signs. Director
Nielsen noted the base or columns holding up a monument sign are not counted against the signage. In
response to another question, Nielsen explained there are no construction material requirements. Bean
asked if there are any illumination restrictions for signage. Nielsen stated what Mr. Frostad proposes will
be backlit versus having flood lights light it. The extent of the lighting is limited to 0.4-foot candles at the
property line.
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Bean stated that he has some concern that the sign would be more luminous to residents in the area
because it can be 100 feet closer to the property line. Director Nielsen stated he does not think the 0.4-
foot candles would be too onerous. Street lights are much brighter than 0.4-foot candles.
Commissioner Maddy stated the graphic of the proposed signage rendering included in the meeting
packet indicates there would be a removable temporary promotions panel at the bottom of the sign.
Director Nielsen clarified if that panel will be used it has to be include in the forty square feet maximum.
Nielsen explained the City encourages that feature to reduce the number of requests for temporary
signage.
Commissioner Davis commented that moving the signage closer to the driveway will help a lot. She
questioned if the sign will be visible from both sides. Mr. Frostad responded yes. She asked if the only
other businesses that could be impacted are the ones noted on the R-C, Residential/Commercial map.
Director Nielsen responded yes.
In response to a question, Director Nielsen explained that the Monson Building is the former Kuemple
Chimes building. Custom grandfather clocks were built there. It was there before most of the single-
family residential housing was built around it. That R-C district location has the most residential housing
around it. There was concern raised about a lighted sign being a problem on that site if there were to be
one there. Nielsen explained it would be difficult for a lighted sign to meet the screening requirement
there. Someone found a view of the site on an app. It appeared that the sign is about the size of a real
estate sign and that it is not lighted.
There was a brief discussion about the other R-C Districts and there was no concern about the proposed
ordinance amendment allowing a problematic sign.
In response to a question, Director Nielsen explained the Gideon Woods and Manitou Woods Twinhomes
do not have enough units to have a sign.
Commissioner Davis commented that the Health Sense Campus has a history of wanting more signage.
Chair Geng noted that he thought the proposed amendment makes a great deal of sense. He thought the
request and solution are reasonable. It protects residential properties from exposure to light.
Commissioner Bean noted that originally he was opposed to more signage and more lights. He has
changed his position and now thinks the proposed amendment makes common sense because the sign
could be closer to the driveway on the Frostad site.
Commissioner Maddy noted that logic prevails on this request; it makes sense to him.
Bean moved, Maddy seconded, recommending approval of a zoning text amendment regarding
signs in the R-C, Residential/Commercial Zoning District. Motion passed 5/0.
Chair Geng closed the Public Hearing at 7:32 P.M.
2. PUBLIC HEARING – ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT – SIDE YARD SETBACK FOR
MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT IN THE SHORELAND OVERLAY ZONING DISTRICT
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Chair Geng opened the Public Hearing at 7:32 P.M. He stated this evening the Planning Commission is
going to consider a Zoning Code text amendment related to a side yard setback for mechanical equipment
on lakeshore properties in the Shoreland Overlay Zoning District.
Director Nielsen noted the Planning Department has initiated this.
Director Nielsen explained that residents in general prefer to put their air conditioning condensing units
on the side of their house. Many times the house is built right up to the side yard setback and there is not
room for that. That is not an allowable encroachment at this time. More recently, one of the things the
applicant has had to provide for a building permit is where the location of the HVAC equipment will be.
There is one circumstance when that is not fair. Lakeshore lots in Shoreland Districts are required to have
greater side yard setbacks than non-lakeshore lots. The Code requires that those lots must have a total side
yard setback of 30 feet, with no one side less than 10 feet. The 10-foot requirement is not a problem; that
is what non-lakeshore lots are required to have. The problem arises when the property is set up with side
yards constituting some other combination of 30 feet (e.g., 15 and 15). Since the equipment must comply
with side setbacks, that property must keep its equipment 15 feet from the property line.
The proposed housekeeping text amendment would allow mechanical equipment on lakeshore lots to be
an “allowable encroachment” in required side yards, except for those abutting a street, and no closer than
10 feet from the side lot line. The amendment would also prohibit mechanical equipment from being
located within drainage and utility easements.
Following is how a proposed amendment would read:
Section 1201.03 Subd. 3.c. (4) would be amended to read:
(4) Laundry drying and recreational equipment, arbors, trellises, air conditioning or heating
equipment in rear yards to a point no closer than five feet from any lot line.
Section 1201.03 Subd. 3.c. would be amended to include:
(10) Air conditioning and heating equipment shall not be located within drainage and utility
easements. Air conditioning and heating equipment on residential lakeshore lots may
encroach into required side yards, but no closer than 10 feet from the side lot line, nor
within a drainage and utility easement.”
Nielsen noted that staff recommends approval of the amendment.
Seeing no one present to comment on the case, Chair Geng opened and closed the Public Testimony
portion of the Public Hearing at 7:35 P.M.
Commissioner Bean asked about backup generators and small pumps for irrigations systems. He
questioned if the language should be more generic and not specific to air conditioning and heating.
Director Nielsen stated the same logic would apply – generators are allowed 10 feet from the lot line on
non-lakeshore lots so why shouldn’t that same thing apply for lakeshore lots.
Commissioner Johnson stated if generators were added he questioned if that would open the door for
people to locate a generator a considerable distance from the house.
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Commissioner Bean stated that maybe the language could be modified to stipulate that any mechanical
equipment in the encroachment would have to be connected into the mechanics in the house.
Council Liaison Woodruff noted there is separate language in the Code that regulates the amount of noise
that can be generated across the property line independent of the source of the noise.
Director Nielsen explained that during the Planning Commission’s next meeting there will be discussion
about ordinance amendments related to alternative energy. He thought maybe the generator concern could
be discussed with those.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated Section 1201.03 Subd. 3.c.(10) states “…equipment on residential
lakeshore lots …”. He questioned if the Zoning Districts should be specified instead. Director Nielsen
stated the reference could be to Shoreland District riparian lots. Woodruff stated if there is a definition for
residential lakeshore lots in the Zoning Code then he is okay with the proposed wording. Woodruff then
stated the language “… nor within a drainage and utility easement …” is redundant because it is stated in
the first sentence of paragraph 10. Nielsen stated he will talk to the City Attorney about that.
Commissioner Johnson stated that when he worked for a home builder in the northeast part of the country
backup generators were located as far away from the house as possible for noise reasons for luxury homes
($6 million in price). The distance from the house was as far as 50 – 100 feet from the home.
Johnson then stated it makes sense to discuss generators with other energy sources as Director Nielsen
suggested.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated air conditioning condensers are permanent noise sources. Generators are
infrequently used and are therefore temporary sources of noise.
Commissioner Johnson stated if someone decides to build a home that solely uses alternative energy a
generator would be the alternative backup. Council Liaison Woodruff stated he thought if a person relied
on alternative energy for their home it is unlikely they would have a generator for backup because
generators are very inefficient and costly to run.
Commissioner Maddy asked if everyone agrees residential lakeshore lot is a legitimate definition.
Director Nielsen stated he will check on that and noted that the requirements for Shoreland District
riparian lots are different than for other Shoreland lots. Nielsen then stated he will check with the City
Attorney as to whether or not the language “… nor within a drainage and utility easement …” in Section
1201.03 Subd. 3.c.(10) is redundant.
Chair Geng stated he wondered if this item should be continued if the Commission is going to discuss
proposed amendments to alternative energy during its next meeting. He questioned recommending an
amendment to Section 1201.03 Subd. 3.c.(10) now and then recommending another amendment to it next
month.
Maddy moved, Johnson seconded, recommending approval of a zoning text amendment regarding
side yard setback for mechanical equipment on lakeshore lots in the Shoreland Overlay Zoning
District subject to verifying there is a definition for residential lakeshore lot in the Zoning Code and
to checking with the City Attorney to find out if the language “…
nor within a drainage and utility
…” in Section 1201.03 Subd. 3.c.(10) is redundant. Motion passed 5/0.
easement
Chair Geng closed the Public Hearing at 7:58 P.M.
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W O R K S E S S I O N
3. DISCUSSION – SMITHTOWN CROSSING REDEVELOPMENT AND BADGER PARK
MASTER PLAN RELATIVE TO THE MINNETONKA COUNTRY CLUB PROPERTY
REDEVELOPMENT
Director Nielsen explained that the Planning Commissioners were the core of the Minnetonka Country
Club (MCC) Planning Advisory Committee (PAC). The PAC was formed to study various impacts of the
proposed redevelopment of the MCC property. Part of the study related to the area surrounding the
property. He thought it prudent to revisit the Smithtown Crossing Redevelopment Study (SCRS)
completed in 2012 and adopted into the City’s Comprehensive (Comp) Plan and the Concept Plan for
Badger Park. He questioned why the SCRS was not shown to the PAC. He thought the PAC’s findings
and recommendations were very consistent with the SCRS Report. If the property is redeveloped
according to the PAC’s recommendation he does not think it would require an additional amendment to
the Comp Plan.
He highlighted elements in the SCRS Report. They are as follows.
The SCRS Area included the northwest quadrant of the Smithtown Road and County Road 19
intersection (the westerly boundary of that area has not been defined yet), the commercial area on
the south side of County Road 19 at the intersection, and the property immediately south of the
Shorewood Public Works property. The main focus of the SCRS was the northwest quadrant.
He identified the various properties in the northwest quadrant and how they were currently being
used. The American Legion is the main landowner in that area.
The SCRS Report indicates there is a desire to have a unified/coordinated development of the
northwest quadrant. The commercial environment currently in existence does not reflect the
quality of Shorewood.
The Report lists a number of issues identified by the Planning Commission. Vehicular and
pedestrian internal circulation was one of them. The PAC’s Findings and Recommendations
Report (FRR) indicated some cleanup of direct access points could be done in the northwest
quadrant.
The Planning Commission specifically chose not to specify specific types of new structures. The
SCRS Report was more conceptual.
The SCRS Report strongly recommends there be senior housing of some type. The Commission
also wanted to have some type of commercial in that area. It is likely housing will take up more
of the quadrant than commercial. The hope is the two uses would have some common parking
area.
There was a strong recommendation to accommodate pedestrian and bicycle circulation within
the Area. And, for there to be common areas for people to enjoy.
There was a heavy emphasis on landscaping – both the site and the streetscapes.
The SCRS Report recommends residential type architecture. It includes a few photographs of
multi-use buildings the Commission liked.
He noted the City has had at least three developers express interest in that area. One developer talked
about doing a co-op project. He commented that the Mayor had thought that the SCRS Area could be a
gateway to the community.
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He explained the PAC was asked to discuss what would/should happen with Badger Park. For example,
should some of the facilities there be relocated to the MCC property? The consensus of the PAC was that
the Park should be kept intact. There was some discussion about building senior housing on the site of the
Park. Unfortunately, the soils under the Park are very bad. Concept 1.5 for the Park would increase
parking for the Park and the Southshore Center. Assuming Mattamy Homes, the developer for the MCC
property, moves forward the Park Concept 1.5 is ready to go. Earlier in the day during a Council work
session there was some discussion about moving the sports field in Badger Park to Freeman Park. The
Park Commission has indicated some type of play area/open space should remain in Badger Park. He
noted the Park Commission recommended Concept 1.5 and Council had approved it until the MCC
redevelopment project came along.
Nielsen stated from his vantage point the PAC study confirms the SCRS and Badger Park Concept 1.5.
Commissioner Johnson asked if Mattamy has a copy of the SCRS Report. Director Nielsen responded he
was unsure.
Commissioner Davis stated she thought the SCRS Report should have been shared with all of the PAC
members. Director Nielsen stated he was frustrated that it was not.
Director Nielsen stated he thought the proposal for the redevelopment of the MCC property will, and to
some extent has, stirred interest in the Smithtown Crossing area. He commented that the market for senior
housing is very strong.
Nielsen went on to state that during its work session earlier in the day Council did a nice job with
Mattamy’s pre-application; it did what it was supposed to do. He explained Council went through the
PAC’s recommendations one by one. They prioritized some items and added new ones.
In response to a question from Commissioner Johnson, Director Nielsen explained that when the Planning
Commission started the SCRS they agreed that the SCRS Area is to some extent the entry into the City
when coming from the north. The hope is the SCRS Area would end up a mini city center with its own
identity; similar to the area referred to as Navarre. It would also compliment the City Campus. Nielsen
reiterated the Commission thought that there should be some commercial component in the Area even if it
is a small neighborhood component.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated from his personal perspective if a person lived along Manor Road it is
likely they would not consider the need for a mini city center high on their priority list. Because he lives
out on Enchanted Island it is not high on his priority list. But, having an area that is identified as bait is
not the impression the City should want to leave with anyone. He does think that whatever is done to the
Area should be attractive and of benefit to the Area. He then stated for the last 7 – 10 years the market
demand has not incented developers to want to do anything there. It would have been a mistake for the
City to acquire a number of properties in the Area. He went on to state one of the major reasons the City
has not started to make significant improvements to Badger Park is the City has not had the money.
Concept 1.5 improvements will cost more than $1 million. There is only about one half of that in the Park
Improvements Fund.
Commissioner Bean asked if there has ever been discussion about relocating City Hall to the property just
south of the Public works site. Director Nielsen responded the SCRS indicated that property would likely
end up being something other than single-family; the City would be open to changing the zoning. Nielsen
noted a renovation of City Hall was completed in 2009 for a cost of more than $1 million. He explained
that when the Public Safety facility in Shorewood was built there was a brief discussion about
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incorporating City Hall into that. That idea was scraped quickly because there were other South Lake
cities involved with the construction of the facility. Council Liaison Woodruff stated during his tenure on
Council there has never been discussion about relocating City Hall north of County Road 19; there had
been discussion about moving it south slightly. But, if there was a compelling reason to free up the
current site he was sure Council would discuss it. He then stated the bonded debt for the City Hall
renovation will not be paid off for 10 or more years.
Bean stated the size of the field in Badger Park (300 feet by 160 feet) is not a full-sized football field.
Nielsen stated it is a little bit short. Bean clarified it was 60 feet short. He asked if there is any intent to
play soccer there. Nielsen stated when necessary soccer leagues give up time to football and lacrosse
leagues at Badger Park.
Director Nielsen stated from his perspective the original Badger Park improvements plan did a better job
of connecting the Southshore Center to Badger Park and City Hall than Concept 1.5 does. But, the Park
Commission preferred Concept 1.5 and he could not get the Commissioners to change their mind.
Commissioner Davis asked when park dedication fees are paid. Director Nielsen responded with the final
plat. Nielsen stated that will be another issue because the City Code requires a park dedication fee of
$6,500 per lot or at the City’s discretion 8 percent of the raw value of the land. The 8 percent would end
up being much more than the fee and he is not sure why the City would not go with the raw value of the
land route. He is not sure if the City would give some credit for the 60 percent open space on the
redeveloped MCC property. He does not recommend doing that because if that open space were not there
Mattamy would have increased the yard on the lots. Mattamy may get some credit for trails.
Commissioner Maddy asked if representatives from Tonka Bay were involved in the SCRS. Director
Nielsen stated they were made aware of it but they were not invited to participate. Maddy stated if the
City does try and promote a gateway area half of the gateway would be missing because it is located in
Tonka Bay. He questioned if Shorewood could merge with Tonka Bay. Nielsen stated it would be a
gateway to the west. Commissioner Bean stated Shorewood could annex with Excelsior and then it would
have a downtown. Someone stated that would solve all sorts of issues. Bean suggesting putting the area
back to the way it was. Maddy stated it would simplify things.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no matters from the floor presented this evening.
5. OLD BUSINESS / NEW BUSINESS
Chair Geng noted that he attended Council’s work session earlier in the day about the Minnetonka
Country Club (MCC) redevelopment project. He explained Mattamy Homes submitted its application for
a Comprehensive (Comp) Plan amendment and its concept plan for the MCC redevelopment project on
July 6. The 60-day time period for the City to act on it started July 6. There was discussion during the
work session about extending the 60 days by another 60 days. Because of the size of the project there may
be a need for the Planning Commission to meet more than once a month. The Commission discussed the
possible need to do that earlier in the year.
Commissioner Johnson noted that since he started on the Commission the Planning Advisory Committee
(PAC) met twice a month regarding primarily the redevelopment of the MCC property. For the
Commission to meet more frequently would not be much of a change.
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Council Liaison Woodruff asked Director Nielsen if he shared the MCC redevelopment review process
timeline with the Planning Commission. Nielsen responded he had not. Woodruff explained that unless
the City finds deficiencies in the application it has 60 days to act on it. The City can extend the time
period an additional 60 days for some cause. To do that it must notify the applicant in writing before the
initial 60 days is up. During that time period the Planning Commission has to hold a public hearing on the
concept plan and make a recommendation to Council and Council has to either approve or deny the
application. Following that is the Development Stage and that same process will be followed for the
development plan. The last stage in the Planned Unit Development (PUD) process is the Final Plan Stage
when a final plat is considered by Council. If the City does not take action during any Stage the State
Statute required timeframe the application for that Stage is automatically approved. He stated there will
be a need for more than one Commission meeting a month.
Director Nielsen noted there will be a public hearing on August 4 for the Comp Plan amendment and
concept plan. If for some reason the Commission chose to continue the public hearing it would be
continued to August 18.
Nielsen displayed the MCC redevelopment review process timeline on the screen. It showed the shortest
and longest time periods for approving the three PUD Stages. There are unknowns about how long it will
take the developer to submit its plans for the next Stage once they receive approval for the previous
Stage’s plan. He noted that he does not recommend extending the PUD Stages review and approval time
period by an additional 60 days up front. He thought it would be better to announce during/after the
Planning Commission’s first public hearing on the project that the meeting schedule is such that the
review and consideration process has to be extended out.
Commissioner Bean asked if Council had any discussion about holding neighborhood meetings.
Director Nielsen stated Council has decided to bring John Shardlow, with Stantec Consultant Services,
Inc., back to at a minimum be at an informational meeting. He clarified it is not a meeting to take public
comment. The City can receive written public comment. It would be a meeting to inform the public about
what has been done to date including the findings and recommendations from the PAC. He noted there
has not been a decision about when in the review process it should held.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated that during a meeting about the Summit Woods development project
many residents asked questions that could not be answered because the concept plan does not provide that
detailed information. That detail information was provided as part of the development plan. During
Council’s work session earlier in the day he suggested the public meeting be held sometime during the
Development Stage when there is enough information to answer the questions.
There was discussion between Director Nielsen and Council Liaison Woodruff about what each thought
they heard during the work session.
Council Liaison Woodruff noted he did not think it would be prudent for Council to also hold a public
hearing on the concept plan and the development plan. He thought it would undermine the importance of
the Planning Commission’s public hearing. Chair Geng stated the issues and concerns raised during the
Commission’s public hearing would just be repeated during a Council public hearing.
Commissioner Bean stated residents want an opportunity to vent. He then stated there are things that the
City ordinances allow even though residents may not like them.
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Chair Geng stated he thought it would be better to have an open house before the Commission holds its
public hearing on the concept plan. He then stated that during the public hearing there would be an
opportunity to explain why maintaining a golf course there was never an option.
Commissioner Bean asked if there is a scenario where Mattamy could develop the MCC property without
having to have public hearings. Director Nielsen responded no. But, there could be a scenario where
Mattamy would not have to ask for an amendment to the Comp Plan. Bean asked how many lots there
could be under the current zoning for the property. Nielsen stated 40,000 square-foot lots could be platted
across the entire site (about 100 lots). Council Liaison Woodruff stated some of the site is unbuildable so
there could be 80 – 90 lots. Bean stated the price point on those developed lots (mansions) would be
significantly more.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated for the Summit Woods development the developer could have built
something that complied with the Zoning Code. It would not have been something the City wanted. A
number of residents in that area wanted there to be no redevelopment of the area.
Commissioner Bean suggested residents be told about a scenario where Mattamy could redevelop the
property without asking for zoning changes. And, that the PUD process gives the City an ability to get
some things that are beneficial to the City.
Director Nielsen stated the PUD process and the Comp Plan both in some way give equal weight to
density as well as specific lot sizes. He then stated clustering the homes is better for the City. It allows for
better drainage off of the site, for example. He went on to state there is no way the City could operate the
MCC golf course or a smaller version of it.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated during the work session someone pointed out that the City was not
given an opportunity to bid on the MCC property. The owners of the property selected a group of
developers to bid on the property and they selected Mattamy. The sale price was $15 million. To bond for
that would have required a 30 percent increase in the tax levy.
Chair Geng stated it is his understanding that Mattamy was not the high bidder. Commissioner Johnson
concurred.
Commissioner Davis stated she thought the public meeting needs to be held first and the comments about
what the developer has the right to do must be told to the public.
Director Nielsen stated one of the things that impresses him about the concept plan is there will still be
views of open space. There will not be many views of houses from around the outside of the property.
Chair Geng stated he does not think there is a way to schedule an open house before the August 4 public
hearing.
Council Liaison Woodruff stated that he thought Council decided to have an informational meeting
instead of Council also holding a public hearing. He commented that maybe it would be appropriate to
have two informational meetings. Multiple neighborhood meetings worked well for trails.
Commissioner Bean suggested putting up a redevelopment sign on the corner and it could note when
there is a neighborhood/informational meeting. Chair Geng stated he thought that would make the second
public hearing for the development plan go much better.
CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
July 7, 2015
Page 11 of 11
6. DRAFT NEXT MEETING AGENDA
Director Nielsen stated there is a public hearing for the Minnetonka Country Club redevelopment project
slated for the August 4, 2015, Planning Commission meeting. There is also a conditional use permit for
fill and grading slated for that meeting which will be considered before the MCC public hearing.
7. REPORTS
• Liaison to Council
Council Liaison Woodruff reported on Council’s June 22, 2015, meetings (as detailed in the minutes of
that meeting).
• SLUC
Commissioner Davis stated she attended the last Sensible Land Use Coalition (SLUC) session. It was
about groundwater and she thought it was a very good session. She recommended people go to the SLUC
website and watch the presentation.
Commissioner Maddy stated he also thought it was very good.
• Other
Commissioner Davis talked about an effort undertaken where a potpourri of seed types was planted in the
boulevard area. She noted the area looks beautiful. She stated the mix of seed types can be customized.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Davis moved, Maddy seconded, adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of July 7, 2015, at
9:14 P.M. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Christine Freeman, Recorder
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road • Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 •952- 960 -7900
Fax: 952- 474 -0128 • www.ci.shorewood.mn.us • cityha11 @ci.shorewood.mn.us
DATE: July 30, 2015
TO: Brad Nielsen, Planning Director
FROM: Paul Hornby, City Engineer
RE: Morlock Property C.U.P. — 24975 and 24995 Glen Road Grading Plan Review
I have completed my review of the proposed grading plan submitted by Bob Morlock, for Lots 7 and 8
Manitou Glen. Plans were prepared by Otto Associates, dated July 7, 2015, and I have the following
comments:
■ The grading plan describes the import of approximately 1,770 cubic yards of fill for the two lots.
Approximately 1,160 cubic yards of material is proposed for Lot 7 (the westerly lot).
The City has received drainage complaints west of Lot 7, after demolition of an existing house. The
existing drainage directs runoff behind and in front of the house immediately west of Lot 7. Part of
the issue may have been resolved after the basement /foundation was filled (it was holding water for
a period of time), and there is an existing grading pattern that directs water to the easterly basement
window of the house immediately west of Lot 7.
■ The grading plan needs a slight modified to Lot 7 to direct water toward Glen Road as part of the
site filling for the C.U.P. When a building permit is submitted for Lot 7, we will review the
proposed grading plan again, since the drainage may be modified to accommodate the type of
structure proposed on the lot.
At this time, I do not see a need to retain storm water on the site since standing water on the site
may have contributed to adjacent property water issues.
Please contact me if you have any questions or need any additional information regarding this Grading Plan
Review.
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24955 Glen Road, right next to the properties and have no issues at all with this request. It would be nice if Bob
could move forward and develop these properties. Thank You.
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2015 (see Attachment I). The recommendations of the PAC will be referenced in various aspects
of this report.
The developer has now submitted applications for a formal Comprehensive Plan amendment and a
Concept Plan for a Planned Unit Development (P.U.D.). As part of his applications, the
developer has provided the following exhibits:
D-3 Site Conditions – Soils, Wetlands and Drainage
D-4 Site Conditions – Tree Massings
D-5 Aerial View
D-6 Proposed Concept Plan
D-7 Overall Site Plan
E Examples – Building Setbacks
F Applicant’s Traffic Consultant Report
The Minnetonka Country Club golf course, including clubhouse and maintenance facilities, driving
range and tennis facilities, currently occupy the site (see Exhibt C). As can be seen on Exhibit D-
3, the topography of the property is rolling, with elevations as high as 999 near the existing
clubhouse, dropping to as low as 956 in the southerly low flat areas.
Land use and zoning surrounding the site are as follows:
North: single-family homes, zoned R-1A and R-1C (across Smithtown Road); plus
commercial development, zoned C-1, General Commercial (Smithtown
Crossing Redevelopment Area)
East: commercial development, zoned C-1; public (City Hall/Badger Park) and
single-family homes, zoned R-1C and R-1A
South: single-family homes, zoned R-1C and R-1A
West: single-family homes, zoned R-1A
As mentioned in the applicant’s narrative, 100 of the proposed homes would be built on lots with
minimum sizes of 90’ x 180’ and a minimum area of 16,200 square feet. The remaining 40 homes
would be on smaller lots – 55’ x 135’ with a minimum of 7500 square feet of area.
ISSUES AND ANALYSIS
As mentioned earlier in this report, a considerable amount of work was done, and
recommendations were made by the Planning Advisory Committee. The Committee’s findings
and conclusions, along with the Shorewood Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Code provide the
basis for evaluating the Mattamy proposal and will be referenced throughout this report.
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A. Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
1. Proposed Land Use/Density.
The applicant’s proposal necessitates a change in the Proposed Land Use Plan in
Shorewood’s Comprehensive Plan from “Semi-Public” to “Low Density
“Residential (1-2 units per acre)”. Shorewood’s Zoning Code prescribes that
density be expressed in “units per 40,000 square feet”. The calculation is based on
net density. That is, the net area of the property, exclusive of city-designated
wetlands, and public right-of-way, divided by 40,000, divided by 140 units.
Following is the calculation:
Net area: 118.64 ac. – 13.6* ac. = 105.4*ac.
Square feet: 105.4 x 43,560 sq. ft. = 4,575,542 sq. ft.
“Shorewood acre” 4,575,542 ÷ 40.000 = 114.39 (Shwd. ac.)
Net density: 140 units ÷ 114.39 = 1.22 units/40,000 sq. ft.
*Does not include city-designated wetlands
There is a relatively small area of city-designated wetlands (as opposed to Wetland
Conservation Act wetlands) in the northwest corner of the site. Since the area of
city-designated wetlands has not been deducted from the gross area, the resulting
net density will be somewhat higher than 1.22 u/40,000. Nevertheless, this
density is very close to the bottom of the 1-2 units/40,000 square-foot range.
It is worth noting that the applicant’s pre-application plans proposed 121 units, all
single-family residential, primarily one line of home product. Based on input from
the PAC, the developer replaced 21 of the lots with 40 smaller “age-targeted”
units in the northwest and northeast corners of the site. These are intended for
empty nesters and seniors who wish to scale down their housing in smaller,
maintenance-free homes. The proposed units are single-level, plus a basement,
built on 7500 square-foot lots.
In addition, the applicant is exploring the possibility of bringing in a separate
builder for the cul-de-sac units in the middle of the site. While the project remains
entirely single-family residential, it addresses three different demographic markets.
Part of the work of the PAC included an examination of the areas surrounding the
subject property, particularly the area to the north and east of the site. The group
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considered whether these areas, including Badger Park, might be appropriate for
some sort of more diverse uses, such as commercial, or higher density residential.
With respect to Badger Park, the group concluded that the park should remain
intact and that existing recreational facilities should not be relocated to the MCC
site. This does not preclude, however, some sort of senior housing in the
southeast quadrant of the Smithtown Road/County Road 19 intersection. Such a
use could relate well and make use of the park and the Shorewood Community
Center. Similarly, the northwest quadrant could accommodate a senior housing
development. It is interesting that the PAC came to the same basic conclusions as
the Smithtown Crossing Redevelopment Study, which has already been adopted by
reference into the Shorewood Comprehensive Plan. Some of the more detailed
recommendations of the PAC which proposed entry treatment for the area and
streetscaping are consistent with the County Road 19 Corridor Study, which has
also been adopted into the Comprehensive Plan.
2. Traffic.
One of the key issues identified early on in the pre-application process is traffic.
While the PAC concluded that the difference in traffic generated by the proposed
project and an active, viable country club was relatively minimal, it acknowledged
that area traffic is an existing, ongoing issue, particularly along the Country
Club/Yellowstone/Lake Linden collector route. The City Council has agreed that
this is an existing issue irrespective of the proposed development. In response, the
Council has directed staff to establish a separate resident committee to do a
detailed study of alternatives for Country Club/Yellowstone/Lake Linden. This
study would run in parallel with the Country Club redevelopment process.
Findings of the study may also be used in a more comprehensive city-wide traffic
policy.
3. Metropolitan Council Review.
Just as Shorewood’s Comprehensive Plan was subject to review by the
Metropolitan Council and surrounding communities, the amendment is also subject
to review. Upon completion of the public hearing at the Planning Commission
level, staff will forward the proposed amendment to the Met Council for
determination as to the “metropolitan significance”, if any, of the project. More on
that process will be presented at the public hearing.
B.Planned Unit Development.
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1. Rezoning.
The current Comprehensive Plan and the conclusions of the PAC support the use
of Planned Unit Development (P.U.D.) as the appropriate zoning tool for the
redevelopment of this significant part of future Shorewood. Rather than a
traditional zoning approach, the establishment of a P.U.D. district on the MCC
property provides for greater flexibility and control of the redevelopment. The
Planning Commission and City Council are urged to review Section 1201.25 Subd.
1. of the Zoning Code for a detailed explanation of the purpose of P.U.D.
With respect to flexibility, this provides for the main premise of the proposal,
which is to cluster home sites on the better, more buildable ground while
preserving natural features of the site, such as wetlands, trees and areas with less
suitable soils. The development agreement that results from the P.U.D. establishes
the standards for the site and actually becomes the zoning code for the subject
property. By using P.U.D. the city can accommodate the varying housing options
proposed by the applicant.
The logistics and mechanics for managing common and private open space are
contained in the P.U.D. provisions. In addition, unlike conventional zoning, if a
project fails or defaults, zoning of the site reverts back to the current R-1A zoning.
With traditional zoning, once the property is rezoned, it is very difficult to change
it back.
2. Concept Plan.
The P.U.D. process includes three distinct steps and applications: 1) concept stage;
2) development stage; and 3) final plan stage. The applicant has requested
approval of his concept plan as shown in Exhibits D-6 and D-7. The basic
elements of community development set forth in the Shorewood Comprehensive
Plan and in the work of the PAC - natural resources, land use, transportation,
community facilities and housing - should be considered in evaluating the concept
plan.
a. Natural Resources. An important aspect of the proposed concept plan is
setting aside the low areas with soils less desirable for building sites as
open space. Preservation of those areas also provides for better protection
of trees on the site. What needs to be decided is whether the open space is
to be privately owned and maintained, or whether it should be public.
While all developments are required under Shorewood’s development
regulations to protect wetlands, there is actually some potential on this site
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for the restoration of a very old wetland area that existed before the
property was ever used as a golf course. The PAC recommended that a
larger, well designed wetland is preferable, if feasible, to having several
small “pocket” wetlands. This raises a question as to who designs the
wetland, builds it, and maintains it. This issue will be addressed within the
development stage of the P.U.D. process.
b. Land Use. The answer to the basic land use question is quite simple – the
project is entirely single-family residential which is quite consistent with the
surrounding areas. Somewhat more complicated is how to craft
development standards for the proposed lots that provide for relatively
large homes on smaller lots than typically found in Shorewood.
This question was posed to the applicant in the PAC review, specifically,
how would the homes fit, and what about future accessory uses such as
decks, patios and swimming pools? The response came in the form of
illustrative sketches for the various models of homes they intend to build
(see Exhibit E for examples). Staff is convinced that the homes and
accessory uses will fit, particularly since the lots have been deepened
somewhat since the first proposal. This also eliminated the question of
what to do with some of the “orphaned open spaces” on the original plan.
Shorewood imposes hardcover (impervious surface) restrictions for all
property in the city. Properties in the Shoreland District are limited to 25
percent, while all others are limited to 33 percent. Given the size of the
proposed homes and anticipated accessory uses, and the smaller lot sizes, a
different standard may be needed for the project. With the amount of open
space proposed for the site, this should not be a problem.
c. Transportation/Traffic. While overall area traffic will be addressed under a
separate study, there are two issues within the project that deserve
attention: 1) streets; and 2) trails. The most significant issue relative to
streets is the need for an additional access to Smithtown Road. A second
access would resolve the excessive cul-de-sac length on the west side of
the site plan. It is also consistent with trying to encourage project traffic to
use Smithtown/County Road 19 rather than Country
Club/Yellowstone/Lake Linden. The apparent solution is an extension of
the cul-de-sac street in the northwest corner of the site. Although it
necessitates some wetland alteration, there is ample room within the
project to mitigate the wetland loss.
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At the informal open house held on 28 July, some residents expressed
concern about the southerly entrance to the project coming out on
Yellowstone Trail. An un-named Planning Commissioner suggested that
having one of the cul-de-sacs on the east side of the project punched
through to Country Club Road may encourage some more of the project
traffic toward the County Road 19 intersection. This is worth exploring
with city engineers, but it is suggested it be reviewed as part of the
upcoming Country Club/Yellowstone/Lake Linden study.
It has been noted that inadequate street right-of-way exists along certain
sections of existing streets, i.e. Smithtown Road and Country Club Road.
As the project moves to development stage review, the preliminary plat
should address these deficiencies.
Per recommendations by the PAC, the applicant shows a trail along the
east side of the project, just outside the west side of the Country Club
Road R.O.W. (see Exhibit D-7). This is consistent with the Shorewood
Trail Plan and the preference of the PAC. The applicant also shows a
perimeter/internal trail system. Although the ownership and maintenance
of the internal trail system have yet to be determined, the preference of the
PAC and staff are for this to be public.
d. Community Facilities. This element covers parks and public utilities.
(1) Parks. The PAC did not recommend moving any of the Badger Park
facilities to the proposed project area. As such, the issue simply
becomes what amount of park dedication will be required. The
Shorewood Subdivision Code prescribes park dedication fees of
$6500 per lot. As an alternative, the City can require up to eight
percent of the land in the project or cash in the amount of eight
percent of the raw value of the land. While this is the City’s
determination to make, the City Attorney advises that the statutes
provide for some credit to be given for things such as open space or
trails. This will be negotiated with the developer as the project
progresses.
(2) City Water. The project will be served by the municipal water
system. At present, Shorewood imposes a $10,000 connection fee
per lot, from which the developer may deduct his cost of water main
construction, service stubs, etc.
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(3) Sanitary and Storm Sewer. These items will be addressed under
separate cover by the City Engineer. That said, it is important to
remember that storm water management was the second most
significant issue raised in the pre-application review.
RECOMMENDATION
In general, the proposed Comprehensive Plan amendment and Concept Stage plan appear to be
consistent with the recommendations of the Planning Advisory Committee. As you are aware, we
held an informal open house meeting last Tuesday, inviting over 700 area residents to come and
familiarize themselves with the project and the process to date. The meeting was well attended
and many of the attendees filled out comment sheets, which we have boiled down in Attachment
II. There will undoubtedly be considerable interest in the redevelopment project at the public
hearing scheduled for next Tuesday. As such, the Commission may wish to not make a decision
the night of the hearing. Staff mentioned in the pre-application review meeting that additional
meetings may be required to comply with 60-day rule requirements.
If the Commission wishes to continue the discussion it should be scheduled for review at a
meeting on Tuesday, 18 August.
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Tim Keane
Bruce DeJong
Paul Hornby
Larry Brown
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FILE C Mattamy Homes
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7201 Washington Avenue South, Suite 201, Edina, MIS! 55439
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www.mattamyhomes.com
Comprehensive Plan Amendment and Concept PUD Plan (General) Narrative
Minnetonka Country Club
Shorewood, MN
Request
Mattamy Minneapolis, LLC (Applicant) has entered into a Purchase Agreement with Minnetonka
Country Club Association, Inc. (Owner) for the purchase of the Minnetonka Country Club in
Shorewood, Minnesota. The proposed purchase contemplates development of the site for single
family residential purposes in accordance with the recently accepted Planning Advisory Committee
recommendations. Mattamy is requesting a change in the Comprehensive Plan from Semi - Public to
Low Density Residential and approval of the Concept PUD General Plan.
u; Reason For Request
It is Mattamy's desire to develop the former golf course for residential uses utilizing a cluster design
leaving approximately 43% of the site in public open space. The public open space will developed
with passive open areas and trails. The trails will connect to the proposed sidewalk on Smithtown
Road, and will create a trail corridor along the west,side of the trees that line Country Club Road. On
a previous rendition of this plan, there were considerable private open space areas surrounding the
neighborhood, creating distance between the new homes and the existing neighborhood. Because
of the difficulty in maintaining all these "orphan" areas, they have been incorporated into the
proposed lots. Nothing has been brought any closer to the existing neighborhood; the previously
proposed open space has simply been incorporated into the proposed lots
Proposed Concept Plan
Concept Objective
The main objective of the plan is to preserve significant open space areas, dedicated to the public
for its use as passive open space while clustering 140 proposed home sites on the higher areas of
the site. The home sites will consist of 100 traditional homes on 16,200 square foot lots
(90'X180') and 40 "age targeted" home sites on 7,150 square foot lots (55'X130'). The age
targeted homes are proposed to be maintenance free, single level homes with basements,
clustered in the Northeast and Northwest corners of the site. Incorporated into the open space
will be trails, water treatment /quality basins, wetland restoration and habitat for a variety of
Exhibit B
MATTAMY PROJECT NARRATIVE
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wildlife species. Ultimately, a PUD process will likely be undertaken for final development
approvals.
Target Market
The Lake Minnetonka area market is a highly elastic market, assisted by being served by the top
high school in the state. The west side of the metro is home to several Fortune 500 companies.
The landscape elements of the sub - region are very attractive. Mattamy is projecting 3 "target"
markets. At present, Mattamy is expecting to build on 86 of the traditional single family lots. The
"product line" for these will be as seen in our North Oaks project (Charley Lake Preserve) and our
Victoria project (Ambergate). These homes will generally range from $650,000 - $900,000.
Additionally, Mattamy is proposing to construct 40 "age targeted" homes. These are single level,
maintenance free lifestyle homes with a target market consisted of empty nesters that may
winter places other than Minnesota. These homes all have full basements.
We are exploring partnering with a custom home builder on the 14 lots on the center cul -de -sac.
,"he builder would address that part of the market that prefers a completely custom home. These
homes will likely be $1,000,000 +. ^�
Utilizing these 3 target markets will cover a broader range of buyers, increase the rate of
absorption and provide for housing diversity within the neighborhood.
Environmental Considerations s
It is Mattamy's desire, as shown by the Concept Plan, to save as many trees and existing natural
areas as possible around the periphery of the site. No wetland impacts or tree removal are
currently proposed in the central open space. During the PAC process, there was considerable
discussion regarding wetland restoration. The central open space is well suited for this and
ample space exists. Additionally, significant areas exist within the open area to plant vegetation
friendly to a variety of insect and animal wildlife. Water quality standards will be dictated by the
Minnehaha Watershed District. There is currently a deteriorated drain the system that runs from
the SW corner of the site to Lake Minnewashta. This system will be improved as part of the
Mattamy proposal.
Mattamy is currently preforming a tree survey of all trees within 200' of the proposed centerline
in order to further evaluate the proposed lot layout and grading plan.
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Traffic Considerations
Traffic was a topic of considerable discussion during the PAC process. At the conclusion of this
process, it was generally agreed that the traffic concerns (Country Club Road corridor, Eureka/ SH
7, Smithtown Rd /CR 19, CR 41 /SH 7) were existing issues and that the development of the site
with the number of homes proposed would not make the conditions considerably worse. It was
also concluded that the golf course site didn't present any opportunities to correct the problems.
Mattamy retained a separate traffic consultant who reviewed Stantec's work and has issued a
Tech Memo stating that they confirm the approach and agree with the results. It is expected that
the proposed development may present opportunities to provide pedestrian safety along
Country Club Road and Smithtown Road. This is discussed with "Pedestrian Circulation" below.
Access is proposed from Smithtown Road on the north and Yellowstone Trail to the south. During
the PAC process it was noted that the west 1/3 of the property was served with only one access;
it was recommended that providing another access should be considered along with the
redevelopment of the 12 properties between Smithtown Road and the Minnetonka Country Club.
While Mattamy believes this to be, in concept, a reasonable idea, we believe the redevelopment
of the north property into a higher density use presents problems due to the configuration of the
land and the difficulty involved to assemble 12 properties without public subsidy. The acquisition
price alone of the 12 properties comes very close to the retail value of the lots if the property
could be developed at 3 units an acre. After exploring the redevelopment potential of the area,
Mattamy has concluded that a more likely redevelopment scenario is that the properties will,
over time, be acquired as "tear- downs" with upper -end homes subsequently built on then. It
would be anyone's guess as to where to "point" a stub street at the area suggested as being
redeveloped.
If wetland impacts were contemplated, an access could be built to Smithtown Road in the
northwest corner of the site to line up with Fairway Drive to the north of Smithtown. Mattamy
believes that a preferable option would be to install an emergency vehicle access (through the
20' wide non - wetland strip that currently serves as a back access to the MCC property) that will
double as a trailhead to the trail system that will wind through the central open space, eventually
connecting to Country Club Road and Badger Park.
Pedestrian Circulation
Throughout the PAC review, comments were made regarding the desire to build trails along the
periphery and interior of the site. Mattamy proposes to address this with the following:
1. Participation in the sidewalk improvement project along Smithtown Road
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2. Construction of a trailhead on Smithtown Road south of Fairway Drive. This trail
would wind through the neighborhood with the primary focus on the central open
space, connecting to the proposed trail along the west side of Country Club Road.
3. An off -road trail west of the tree line along Country Club Road. This trail would
connect to other trails and sidewalks within the neighborhood and central open space.
4. Sidewalks will be incorporated into the street design as agreed upon by the City and
Mattamy.
Site Data
The Site Data is as follows:
Gross Site Area: 118.64 acres
Existing Wetlands (to remain) 5.57 acres
ROW (extern
ble Area:
2.45 acres
111.9 acres
ROW (internal) 11.15
Total Open Space: -50.0 acres
(includes Wetlands, Ponding, Wetland Restoration /Raingardens, Tree Preservation, Wetland Buffers, Screening Buffers, & misc. open spaces)
Total Lot Area: 55.04 acres
Proposed Single Fam. Lots: 140 home sites
90' wide x 180' deep typ. 100 lots
55' wide x 135' deep typ. 40 lots
Proposed Single Family Standards:
Traditional
Proposed Lot Size:
16,200 sf (min)
Front Setback:
40' min.
Side Setback:
10'/10' (20' total)
Side Corner Setbacks:
40' min.
Rear Setbacks:
50' min
Age Targeted
Proposed Lot Size: 7,425 sf (min)
Front Setback: 25'
Side Setback: 7.7'/7.5' (15' total)
Side Corner Setbacks: 25'
Rear: 30'
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Going Forward
Mattamy continues to perform site investigations on the property. We have currently staked the proposed
centerline of the streets with estimated cuts and fills to determine locations that will require the least
amount of site disruption. Additionally, we have located all significant trees within 200' either side of the
proposed centerline to further refine grading assumptions and determine road and lot layout. We will
continue to refine the layout in an effort to preserve as much of the site and it's natural characteristics as
possible.
While the best plans are often laid to waste, it would be our desire to put ourselves in a position where we
could perform demolition of the clubhouse and buildings in August and removal of the contaminated soils
over the winter to lessen the impact on the surrounding community. We are aware that a lot of things need
to go right for this to happen, but we remain optimistic.
Professional Consultants
Land Planner
Westwood Professional Services
7699 Anagram Drive
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
Engineering and Survey
Carlson and McCain
248 Apollo Drive, Suite 100
Lino Lakes, MN 55014
Environmental
Kjolhaug Environmental Services Company
26105 Wild Rose Lane
Shorewood, MN 55331
Soils
Haugo GeoTechnical
2825 Cedar Ave South
Minneapolis, MN 55407
Legal
Winthrop and Weinstine
Capella Tower, Suite 3500
225 S 6th Street
Minneapolis, MN 55402
Transportation Planning
Spack Consulting
PO Box 16269
St. Louis Park, MN 55416
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pTRAFFIC STUDY COMPANY
Technical Memorandum
To: Rick Packer, Mattamy Homes
From: Bryant Ficek, P.E., P.T.O.E.
Date: July 7, 2015
Re: Traffic Impact Review— Proposed Minnetonka Country Club Redevelopment in Shorewood
Mattamy Homes has proposed to redevelop the Minnetonka Country Club (MCC) site into a housing
development. Located in the area bounded by Smithtown Road, Eureka Road, Country Club Road, and
Yellowstone Trail, the now closed golf course could accommodate 121 single family homes. The
potential traffic impacts of this redevelopment have been studied by the City. The purpose of this
memorandum is to review the City's work to ensure standard practices were followed and determine if
additional study is needed or warranted. The information presented in the Transportation Workshop on
April 28, 2015 was used for this review.
Study Methodology
As presented, the traffic review of the proposed MCC redevelopment followed a standard methodology
in examining the existing transportation system, examining the existing land use versus the proposed
land use, identify traffic issues, and determining potential improvement options. Information was
obtained from the City, the Minnesota ,Department of Transportation (MnDOT), the Met Council, and
the Institute of Transportation Engineers (ITE), which are common sources routinely used for these
types of reviews. The volumes, roadway capacities, trip generation, and traffic projections were all
accurate and appropriately used.
The presented information and traffic review was properly completed using standard procedures and
common resources. No issues were found with the methodology.
Full Traffic Impact Study Requirements
Traffic Impact Studies (TIS) provide an assessment of existing and future traffic operations to identify the
impacts of a proposed development. The proposed MCC redevelopment used daily volumes to examine
the surrounding roadways. A TIS can also identify capacity deficiencies at key intersections and
potential mitigation to avoid safety or operational problems due to expected traffic from a proposed
development. However, this level of detail in a TIS is not always necessary. MnDOT has the following
guidelines that trigger the need for a fuller detailed TIS:
• Development proposals that are estimated to generate more than 250 peak -hour vehicle trips
or 2,500 new daily trips
• Development proposals that will be evaluated sufficiently by applying other elements of
guidance from the MnDOT Access Management Manual, such as access spacing
If these guidelines are not satisfied, than an intersection review in a more detailed TIS is generally not
needed. The proposed MCC redevelopment to 121 single family is expected to generate up to 1,252
trips on an average weekday and up to 125 trips during an average peak hour. Both fall below the
threshold that suggests a more detailed study is necessary.
Therefore, the review based upon daily volumes is acceptable for the proposed project. Furthermore,
with the golf course now closed, new traffic counts would be artificially lower and not reflective of the
existing land use if still open.
Exhibit F
APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC
CONSULTANT REPORT
Spack Consulting 2 of 2 Traffic Impact Review
for Mattamy Homes Proposed MCC Redevelopment
Study Results
Based upon the information presented, the traffic review of the proposed MCC redevelopment
concluded that:
• The existing area is a unique area by the Lake, making it more desirable for residents but also
complicating the transportation system.
• There are existing transportation issues on the surrounding roadways that were present with
the former golf course and unrelated to the proposed MCC redevelopment.
• The expected traffic from the proposed housing is higher than the former golf course.
• The surrounding roadways have available capacity, in terms of daily volumes, to accommodate
the increase in traffic associated with the proposed MCC redevelopment.
• The previous improvements to the County Road 19 /Smithtown Road /Country Club Road
intersection reduced cut - through traffic.
• Improvement options are limited by the topography, available right -of -way, and cost -to- benefit
of a project.
These points are all reasonable given the information presented and consistent with conclusions we
would have drawn.
Conclusions and Recommendations
The principle findings of this technical memorandum are:
• The traffic review of the proposed MCC redevelopment followed standard methodology.
• A more detailed study, such as a peak hour intersection review, is not necessary given the
relatively small trip generation of the proposed housing.
• The results of no significant impact on the surrounding roadways is accurate and similar to what
we would have concluded given the information presented.
• Options to improve existing traffic issues are limited by the characteristics of the area.
Although options are limited, more study should be completed to fully flesh out potential improvements
and evaluate their potential effectiveness and trade -offs. For instance, speed humps would result in
lower speeds and may further reduce traffic, but would result in more noise and present a daily obstacle
for residents. Speed humps are not acceptable on Municipal State -Aid Streets either. Potential
improvements should also recognize /encourage other modes of transportation.
FILE COPY
Minnetonka Country Club
Redevelopment Planning Advisory
Committee
Summary of Findings &
Recommendations
As Presented to the City Council
June 8, 2015
Attachment I
INTRODUCTION
The owners of the Minnetonka Country Club (MCC) decided to close the golf course and
related facilities and extended a private offer to sell to a selected group of private developers
The offer presented by Mattamy Homes was accepted and Mattamy currently controls the
property.
The Subject Property is currently guided Public - Semi Public on the Comprehensive Plan and it is
zoned R 1 A Low Density Residential, Any residential reuse of this property will require an
amendment to the Comprehensive Plan and may require a rezoning to a different underlying
zoning district and /or a Planned Unit Development.
The City did not seek the closure of the golf course. This was a private decision by a private land
owner, The land was not offered for sale to City, all or in part. Therefore, the control that the City
has over the future use of the property is limited to its authority to control the Comprehensive
Plan, zoning and subdivision approval.
The Planning Advisory Committee (PAC)- an intentional farm of community
engagement
A change in land use of the scale of the MCC property affects every property owner in the City
to a lesser or greater extent. It is also a change with multiple implications. There are many factors
that need to be understood and thought through to make well- reasoned decisions.
It is important to engage the community on matters of this significance and multiple forums and
approaches need to be deployed to share information and capture input. One of the inherent
challenges is that it is difficult for residents to take the time to become fully informed about all of
the relevant issues, or to listen to the viewpoints of other stakeholders.
The Planning Advisory Committee concept is not intended to replace any of the standard public
notice, public hearings, community informational meetings, websites, or other community
engagement opportunities, It is an additional opportunity for a selected group of community
residents to become fully informed about the project and then share their opinions with the City
Council and Developer,
The City Council identified and invited participants from throughout the City. They included
residents who own property very close to the MCC Property and others who live in other parts of
the community. Many of the members have served in the community in the past in either an
advisory or elected role.
PAC members attended a total of nine workshops and a meeting with the City Council on June
8, 2015. A graphic illustration of the process they participated in is attached as an appendix to
this report. The process began with the members identifying all of the issues that they believed
were important to address and all of the questions that they wanted answered, They also
participated in a form of SWOT analysis (strengths, weaknesses, opportunities & threats) and
shared their visions for a successful future for the MCC property.
The next several workshops were educational in nature. They covered the nature and limits of
the City's authority, the rights of the land owner, land economics, comprehensive planning,
zoning, subdivision regulations, natural resources, traffic, area -wide redevelopment, parks, open
space, trails and more. All of those presentations and all of the input from individual PAC
members is available to support the Council and developer moving forward.
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The following summary is Intended to support the PowerPoint presentation given to the City
Council on June 8, 2015,
Council Direction
In addition to authorizing the overall process the City Council specifically asked the PAC
members to:
• Explore housing alternatives
• Evaluate ways to leverage the value created through redevelopment
• Evaluate potential street realignments
• Consider park dedication and reuse options
Findings Related to Traffic:
• Flagged as a key issue from the very beginning; by far the most referenced issue on all of
the PAC member's lists
• Biggest challenge is the fact that the "cut through" (Country Club /Yellowstone /Linden) is
a designated collector (MSA route)
• It is NOT IMPROVED TO COLLECTOR STANDARDS
• The net increase in traffic between a fully functioning golf course and the proposed
development is not significant
• Traffic conditions in the neighborhood vicinity are locally significant. Additional study is
recommended to identify the best approach to Improving the existing roadway system
• The majority of the members did not favor closing Country Club Drive. The City EMS, Fire
and Police all opposed this option as well
Developer's Responsibility
• Subdivision provides opportunity to address right of way issues on Country Club Drive
• Tax revenues (abatement) can support the funding of a trail on Smithtown
• Provide trail paralleling Country Club on MCC property
Proposed Zoning
• The Mattamy proposal (either with or without age - targeted housing types) would fit
within the R -1 C District standards
• Planned Unit Development (PUD) zoning may not be essential, but could still prove
mutually beneficial
Issues:
The following were the issues that were cited most frequently by PAC members, although all of
their individual responses are important
• TRAFFIC
• Drainage
• Density- housing types, costs
• Trails
• Public access to open space
• Chance to do something Cool - mini town center
• & More
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Vision
The redevelopment of the Minnetonka Country Club property resulted in a highly valued new
Shorewood neighborhood. New housing choices infused the community with new residents,
economic value and new opportunities, Modern building technology and excellent
development practices combined to achieve energy efficiency, the conservation and
enhancement of natural systems and other sustainable objectives.
Traffic generated from the development was accurately predicted and successfully managed
through a combination of design improvements and mitigation strategies.
SMALL GROUP DISCUSSION TOPICS:
There were a number of key issues that were identified as very important, Some of these issues
were directly relevant to the direction provided by the City Council at their January 17 retreat.
Each of the issues are identified along with the specific discussion questions, followed by the
consensus responses of the PAC.
1. Badger Park Redevelopment
a. Should the City pursue the redevelopment of Badger Park?
b. Should the City pursue redevelopment of the Lucky's site?
c. What is the optimum future use of the northwest corner of Smithtown /Hwy 19 /CC Road?
PAC Responses:
• Nearly unanimous support for aggressively pursuing the redevelopment of properties
surrounding the intersection, but moving the ball fields is probably not necessary
• Some remain open to relocating ball fields on to the MCC Property. This would preclude
the large wetland restoration
2. Open Space Options
a. Should the ball fields on Badger Park be relocated to the Matfamy site?
b. Passive open space and trails open to the public?
c. Small scattered wetlands and ponds versus larger restored wetland?
PAC Responses:
• The majority favored the restoration of wetlands, passive open space and trails versus
relocated ball fields
• The trails and open space should be open to the public
• The footprint of the restored wetland should be as close to the historic size as possible,
while preserving significant trees and meaningful open space and trails
3. Potential future redevelopment along Smithtown
a. Should the City explore redevelopment of this area?
b, Should the City acquire properties as they come up for sale and bank them until there is
a critical mass of City -owned properties and willing sellers to allow a development to
proceed?
PAC Responses:
• Majority open to future redevelopment of this area when property owners are ready to
sell and recognized the benefits of planning for the future development of this area in
conjunction with the Mattamy project
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• PAC members recognized that Mattamy may need to acquire one or more properties to
provide another access point along Smithtown and avoid excessive cul -de -sac lengths
• The group did not take a position on whether or not the City should use its EDA levy to
assemble funds to acquire properties as they come up for sale to facilitate future
redevelopment.
4. Sidewalk and trail development along Country Club Road
a. How important is this trail segment?
b. Should the trail be immediately adjacent to the roadway, or separate but parallel?
c. Could the north -south trail connection be made as part of the public trails within the
development?
d. What are the trade- offs /high priorities related to this trail?
PAC Responses:
• Trail is extremely important
• Majority favored "improvement" to Country Club Rd (Yellowstone Trail & Linden)
• Descriptions of "improvements" almost all referred to a trail paralleling the road
• The trail could be on the MCC Property if it was a reasonably direct connection between
Smithtown and Yellowstone
5. Sidewalk along Smithtown
a. Is this trail segment a high priority?
b. Are there other trail connectors important to analyze?
PAC Responses:
• Virtually unanimous support
• City proceeding with implementation
• The City is pursuing Tax Abatement as funding source
• Street crossings present opportunities for streetscape improvements and traffic calming
6. Should the redevelopment of the MCC Property and surrounding
properties result in the addition of a diversity of housing types?
PAC Responses:
• The majority favored the inclusion of some diversity in the housing types
• Minority just SF ( "multiple price points ")
• Some support for workforce housing - affordability, recognizing that the economics of
the project made it impossible for the Developer to offer housing at these costs without
public subsidy
Summary
• The PAC members met a total of 9 times between February and June
• All of the information that was reviewed, the presentations they received and all of their
questions, comments, suggestions and concerns and the tapes of the meetings are all
available for review
• There was strong consensus regarding all of the Issues summarized above
• The best actions to take regarding the Country Club /Yellowstone /Linden collector
challenges remain to be determined and warrant further study
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Minnetonka Country Club Redevelopment Public Meeting
Comment Card Responses -- 07.28.15
After reviewing the comments from the Minnetonka Country Club Redevelopment meeting, the
comments have been divided into three categories: Traffic, Neighborhood and Housing, and
Environment and Green Space.
Traffic Concerns
My comments for the City Council and Planning Commission
The issue (or issues) that are most
as they make decisions regarding this project:
important to me are:
Please consider omitting development entrance from Yellowstone
Traffic- especially on Yellowstone Trail at
and turn east cul de sac backing up to Country Club Road into an
the 7/41 Cub Foods intersection!
entrance instead. Take a sliver of the eastern edge of the
development and use it to widen Country Club into a road able to
handle more traffic. Yellowstone is narrow, windy and tree lined
and already unsafe for pedestrians. Any additional traffic,
particularly west of Country Club Drive would be dangerous.
Current planning seems to be attempting to discourage traffic on
Country Club. What if the south exit on the development exited
east onto Country Club... but more land was taken from the golf
course to widen and improve Country Club Rd? Make it a boulevard
with separated traffic lanes.
Country Club Lane has no signage -
We have lived on Smithtown Road since 1983 and have witnessed
dramatic increase of vehicular traffic. It's become difficult at nearly
any time of the day to access Smithtown. With this development
and the opening of Kowalski store, we anticipate worsening
conditions.
The traffic on Country Club and Yellowstone is already terrible. -
The cut through from CR 19 to Cub Foods be
Adding these homes and all their cars will be devastating.
closed or upgraded with a trail
Will there be signage that our road Country Club Road is a private
road or will be opening it to "thru traffic" as we are used to families
with children bicycling young and old, and children constantly
playing on what is now a quiet, "dead end rd ". Will you be adding
on to our road- Club Lane and open to traffic to this home owners
and the new development.
We were told that there would be no more than 110 -120 homes
and now there are 1401 This is way too much traffic for our roads -
our schools are full already. The proposed North to South traffic
west of Country Club is a terrible idea. Location of traffic through
lanes is a very bad placement
I live across the street from #140 proposed. The main Southern
The entrance /exit on the south onto
entrance /exit into this development is directly across from my
Yellowstone
house. This is a very quiet portion of Yellowstone currently, which is
why we moved here 6 years ago. The idea of routing traffic in /out
of this development onto this portion of Yellowstone is a horrible
idea. I have been in the custom home design /build business for 22
years. I will either move or get every single neighbor to protest on
this! Please have Mattamy contact me if they are interested in
Attachment II
buying my home for their entrance /exit green space or something
like that. I will wait to hear from them and stay in touch with the
city until they do.
I think Yellowstone Trail has a lot more traffic on it since Cub
Traffic on Yellowstone Trail
moved in, even those traffic studies have been made. I wait for 10
cars to go by before I can get out of my driveway. When the light
changes on 41, 1 have to wait for 10 cars to go by before I get out.
Same goes for traffic on Highway 19.
The neighborhood adjacent to this location had concerns when Cub
Traffic on Yellowstone, water draw down,
was proposed- at the meeting I felt we were pacified rather than
forced into C 2 G and city water down the
respected as a neighborhood. Is this going to happen again and the
road
city will bow to the developer, rather than uphold the wishes of the
current residents
No planned pedestrian /bike trail on Yellowstone?
Traffic on Yellowstone with planned access
road across from Club valley.
High speed on Yellowstone Trail from Country Club Road west has
Traffic, landscaping (trees), water usage,
markedly increased already this summer and needs to be
affordable housing is non - existent
monitored and decreased prior to this project beginning so that
behaviors can be in place.
The cul de sacs that stop at country Club make no sense- traffic will
be "forced" down on to Yellowstone which is wrong. We are
getting caught up in the developer's ideas for quiet cul de sacs in
their new neighborhood and forcing their traffic on to our existing
neighborhoods roads- this is very unfair.
I do not want any more traffic on Country Club or Yellowstone or
Lake Linden. You need to close down Country Club and push all
traffic to County Rd 19. Improving it will just encourage faster
traffic. There are houses with dogs and kids on Lake Linden and it is
windy and no one ever obeys the speed limit. I like narrow lanes
and slow traffic with lots of trees along them. This is why I live here.
I am also concerned about the water. We have a well and are
concerned that 140 more homes will draw down our water supply. I
think the lots are too small and the houses too big and not very
architecturally appealing- all the same.
Use Club Lane for Smithtown access
1. 1 do not think that the city council has the best interests of the
Traffic and density
neighboring properties in mind
2. Traffic will increase. Even a small increase in traffic flow will
exponentially affect intersections at 7/41 and 19 /Smithtown
Thanks for your hard work. Please continue to keep in mind the
Traffic on Yellowstone Trail and Country
inadequacy of nearby roads. They are not appropriate for increased
Club. It's unsafe and used already by cut -
traffic.
through drivers. It is inconceivable that
Keep lots of greenspace to maintain the feeling of Shorewood.
many more cars will use this route. Trails
and sidewalks are necessary, but the traffic
itself needs to be re- routed.
I am angry- I oppose this plan because it will be over population
Too much home density- preserving open
and causing more traffic congestion and issues. Shorewood public
green spaces, changing population in the
works has difficulty serving the established neighborhoods now!
schools, closing open enrollment.
Larry Brown ignores phone calls and doesn't take action on time.
Too many people in the city. Too many bikers and auto and joggers
on the road now. Just imagine how many more will be out there.
It's not safe and crime is increasing in the area.
It really seems crowded and the increased traffic bothers me. Hope
Safety concerns with exits coming off
they don't start working until 7:30 AM. We older people do not
Smithtown Road. The club traffic hardly ever
sleep well at night.
stopped before, plus the road is always busy
in the morning and evening. Need a stop
sign and to save the street trees.
** Traffic flow to Hwy 7
* *TRAFFIC
Street damage from construction vehicles- who pays for this ??
Drainage issues
Please consider me for the group working on the traffic study
Long term direction and impact of the city- we need to solve
Traffic! I
The worsening traffic situation. You can't direct more traffic along
Smithtown Road to Excelsior. Need another option to Route 7 ,
My concern is traffic on Yellowstone and Cub stoplight. I have been
Traffic
forced off the road several times by drivers while pushing a double
stroller and just walking. Need a way to limit traffic.
Neighborhood and Housing Concerns
My comments for the City Council and Planning Commission as
The issue (or issues) that are
they make decisions regarding this project:
most important to me are:
-The more exits out of the neighborhood the better
Please don't make a "cookie cutter"
- Consider a park centrally located in the neighborhood for children
neighborhood. Have diversity
among home styles and exterior
finishes
Ensure the plan adds long term value to the community. Maintain a unique
Right now, finalizing plan and
proposition that continues to set Shorewood apart from other cookie cutter
understanding impacts to property,
communities.
bike trail, excavation, tree loss etc.
These are the ugliest looking homes I have ever seen. No one will buy them
The entire development does not
at that price!
"fit in" to our community!
1. A careful examination of how the disturbance of 70+ years of chemicals
1. Water quality
used in turf maintenance will affect the well water of homes adjacent to
2. Affordable housing
the golf course
3. Just Wages
2. The claim that a "variety" of housing types are part of the project seems
misleading- as seems to be always the case. Affordable housing received at
best cursory consideration. Apparently an increase in the number of houses
has already occurred. Couldn't there easily be half a dozen $250,000-
$300,000 homes scattered among 135 $900,000 homes?
3. Has any investigation been done of Mattamy's sub - contracting practices?
Do they generally hire union workers? The city has already granted them a
great deal; would it be too much to ask that they guarantee to pay just
wages?
I appreciate the open house forum
Existing adjacent properties will not
see increase in property taxes
I'm really concerned about the lack of diversity in the model homes
Mattamy doesn't cut and run and is
Mattamy is building. They are a nat!Qnal builder of moderately constructed
held to a high standard that adds to
homes.
the quality of Shorewood.
Architectural integrity is important.
This development proposal looks horrible. Wedging 140 houses into the
Proposes houses next to existing
Country Club is a shame! We border the course and our house is going to
houses
be looking into the back windows of 3 or 4 houses!! 1 AM VERY UPSET WITH
THIS PROPOSAL
Environmental and Green Space Concerns
My comments for the City Council and Planning Commission as they
The issue (or issues) that
make decisions regarding this project:
are most important to me
are:
If we are going to develop then we need to also think about recreation areas
within that area. Not having some sort of play area for families included in the
area does not make sense.
There was talk of parks, green space, trails, sidewalks etc. I don't see any of this.
Added traffic and density is
We boycott this development and are planning to move.
too much for our
neighborhood!
We are set back from the road on Seamans Drive near the back of the property. I
Natural tree and plant buffer
hope to have a good buffer between the back yard and the construction
between my lot and the cul
de sac
Glad to see more mixed housing- still a need for "workforce" housing in
Maximum environmental
Shorewood. Would like the project to be attractive from CC Road (trees, trail,
protection including wetlands
planting). We do not want to look at 2 -3 story walls of mansions. Traffic still needs
and pollinator friendly
sorting out
plantings
What about cleaning up all the bushes and weeds in from of the Golf course land.
So it looks better, and get rid of weeds on the land down by the country club little
red gate, down by our next door neighbor's house and put new grass in the
development of the land. Also, put a slow -down sign on Smithtown Road because
people drive too fast.
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 Country Club Road • Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 • 952- 960 -7900
Fax: 952- 474 -0128 • www.ci.shorewood.nm.us • cityha11@ci.shorewood.nui.us
ci.shorewood.nm.us
DATE: July 28, 2015
TO: Brad Nielsen, Planning Director
FROM: Paul Hornby, City Engineer
RE: Minnetonka Country Club Concept Plan Review
I have completed my review of the proposed concept plans submitted by Mattamy Partnership, with
revisions date July 21, 2015. Plans were prepared by Carlson McCain and I have the following general
development comments:
■ The concept plan open space is proposed public areas with trails, storm water facilities, and
vegetation as an amenity. There has also been discussion as part of the PAC to create or restore
wetland in the southern portion of the site.
Trails — The combination of trails and sidewalks are recommended with the following
modifications:
Off- street trails are at least 8 feet in width
Sidewalks are concrete and 6 feet in width
• Sidewalks are extended on all of the main roadways on one side
• Sidewalk should extend from the Smithtown Road access road on the west to east street to
Country Club Road
Sidewalk or trail should extend to the south end of the Country Club Road trail via the SE
cul -de- sac /plat line
Off- street trails will need to be designed /constructed to reduce animal and tree root damage
Drainage/Water Quality requirements — The proposed development will need to meet the
requirements of the City Local Surface Water Management Plan (LSWMP) and the Minnehaha
Creek Watershed District (MCWD) requirements. The applicant will need to provide more detailed
information about the existing drainage outlet that exits the site toward Yellowstone Trail. The City
has very limited information on this drainage system and it is believed to be a private drainage pipe
from the site, eventually discharging to Lake Minnewashta. This system appears to be a draintile
system and the allowable discharge rate and volume will need to be estimated to meet proposed
discharge with the development. The developer will also need to show that there is a legal access to
the use of this drainage system for the MCC property.
Memo to Brad Nielsen July 28, 2015
Re: Concept Plan Review Minnetonka Country Club Site Page 2 of 2
Utilities — Public utilities will need to be extended throughout the plat and stubs provided in key
location for future extension and connections.
• Watermain — The Smithtown Road watermain is 16- inches in diameter and will be the
primary connection of the development water distribution system. The watermain will need
to be sized to serve the development needs and looped to the Smithtown Road watermain.
Stubs to Country Club Road, Yellowstone Trail and Club Lane will be required at various
locations for future extension.
• Sanitary sewer — The sanitary sewer connection is to be into the existing MCES sewer
located in the SE portion of the site. The connection will need to be permitted through the
City and the MCES. The development layout will need to accommodate the existing MCES
sewer alignment in this area, or the sewer will need relocation with the development.
• The streets will need to be designed with a storm sewer system and storm water facilities to
meet water quality, runoff and rate control requirements. The storm water facilities will be
outside of the public right of way.
Secondary roadway connection to Smithtown Road — A secondary access roadway is needed in
the NW or western portion of the site due to the length of the proposed cul -de -sac. The applicant
indicates allowing this secondary access road to be part of future development when the property
between the proposed concept plan and Smithtown Road develops. The applicant also proposes
constructing a trailhead between Smithtown Road and the westerly cul -de -sac for use as an
emergency access. An access road to reduce cul -de -sac length is needed as part of this project. The
secondary access road is to meet City spacing requirements and is preferred to connect to
Smithtown Road at either Fairway Drive or Star Lane.
■ Wetland restoration /creation — The City is interested in creating and /or restoring wetlands in the
southern portion of the proposed development open space. The wetland improvements could serve
as a means to account for the development wetland impacts and provide wetland bank credits
available to BWSR. The City Engineer will work with the city consultant on the feasibility of
creating a wetland bank as well as laying out the procedural requirements.
Traffic — During the PAC meetings, traffic was a discussion topic that did receive investigation. In
general, it was determined that the traffic the development will generate will not contribute
significantly to the traffic volume on Country Club Road, as compared to a well functioning golf
course with similar facilities. Additional traffic study should be performed by the developer with
the development application to estimate traffic loading to Smithtown Road, Country Club Road,
Yellowstone Trail, and Lake Linden Drive.
Additional engineering review and comment will need to be addressed as the proposed project progresses to
preliminary plat, construction plans, and final plat stages.
Please contact me if you have any questions or need any additional information regarding this Concept Plan
Review.
August 4, 2015
Comments Read and Submitted at Shorewood Planning Commission Public Hearing
BY: Ken Huskins
My name is Ken Huskins. My wife, Ruth Lane, and I are Shorewood residents and
taxpayers, residing at 24075 Mary Lake Trail. Thank you for the opportunity to address
the Planning Commission about your consideration of the Minnetonka Country Club
(MCC) re- development application by Mattamy Homes.
I accept that Mattamy Homes, as owners of the former MCC property, has a right and
expectation to build homes on this parcel. Yet, as many other Shorewood residents do, I
have grave concerns about this redevelopment project and the course of action taken
by the City Council and Staff to date. You only have to read the residents comments
from the recent Open House, to know that many residents are worried about the impact
on our neighborhoods. Some, but not all, of my concerns are the following:
1. Shorewood City Staff are liberally using the Planning Advisory Committee (PAC)
report as foundational to the positions they are taking after review of the
Mattamy application. This is flawed for the following reasons:
a. Stantec facilitated the work of the PAC. Stantec, and Stantec alone, fed
facts and figures to the PAC, which have not been critically challenged or
corroborated by any non - Stantec experts.
b. On several occasions, John Shardlow of Stantec reminded the PAC that
their role was as a 'focus group only'. Not a recommendation or decision
body. Anyone who has everg participated in a focus group already knows
that you are simply asked to react to what you are told or shown.
c. The PAC report was orchestrated and prepared by Stantec and was nearly
devoid of any positions other than ones supportive of the Mattamy
Homes project. Case in point: a claim that traffic increase on the adjacent
roads would be 'insignificant' as a result of this huge housing
development. Anyone living in the area knows that this cannot be true, as
traffic using the 'cut -thru' corridor has increased steadily since Cub Foods
located at Rt. 7 and 41. Common sense tells you that 140 more homes in
the area will create more than 'insignificant' increased traffic. I am
familiar with Shorewood's Mission Statement. I interpret 'quality public
services', 'healthy environment', and 'visionary leadership' to include safe
and adequate road infrastructure and aggressive enforcement of speed
limits both for the near and long term.
d. That City Staff has placed so much trust in the PAC report shows just how
little critical evaluation they have done. Just consider the following, taken
directly from a public memo authored by City Planner Director Nielsen,
dated January 1, 2015: "...the City Council proposes to enlist the services
of an independent planning consultant to oversee the public information
process and to offer a 'menu of options' for the subject property and its
surrounding areas. One of the challenges posed to the consultant
candidates is to try to coordinate their efforts with those of the
developer." So, what was Stantec's specific role with regard to the PAC?
Was it to be truly independent or was it to coordinate, represent, and
even advocate for Mattamy Homes' position? Why has the Staff not
sought out a fuller 'menu of options'?
2. While retained by the Shorewood City Council, Stantec has been, and continues
to be paid indirectly by Mattamy Homes. Fees paid by the City of Shorewood are
being reimbursed to the City by Mattamy Homes. In following the money, it is
reasonable to question that Stantec could be considered an agent of Mattamy
Homes, thereby establishing the possibility of a conflict of interest. The
Shorewood Mayor, City Council, Staff, and the Planning Commission, as bodies
that represent Shorewood residents, must do everything in their power to make
recommendations and decisions with residents' best interests in sight. Working
from accurate, objective information and analyses unfiltered or biased by
outside agents such as Stantec is your responsibility and your accountability.
Shorewood residents should expect and accept nothing less.
I have shared these, and many other concerns, orally and in writing, directly with the
Mayor and City Council members over the past 2+ months. Only Mayor Zerby and
Council Member Labadie have responded and not once have I received a response as to
why my concerns are unfounded or invalid. More recently, I have communicated many
of my concerns to reporters at the Star Tribune who previously have reported on the
impending redevelopment project. I have been assured of their on -going interest in
reporting on the redevelopment project and its impact on Shorewood.
Finally, I have made it known to Mayor Zerby that I have high interest to serve on a new
Advisory Committee that will take a much deeper look at the local traffic issues and
possible solutions. Members of the Planning Commission, I urge you to leave open the
very real probability that the findings from this new traffic advisory committee will be
markedly different from those reflected in the Stantec -led PAC report.
I request that these remarks, hardcopy of which I will now provide to the Planning
Commission, be submitted verbatim into the record. Thank you.
Ken Huskins
24075 Mary Lake Trail
Shorewood, MN 55331
E -mail: krh 2 @grraail.corp
Mobile: 612 - 310 -3994
City of Shorewood, Planning Commission Public Hearing, August 4, 2015
Remarks by Henry Miles, 2405 Mary Lake Trail, Shorewood, MN 55331
Thank you Chairman Geng and Planning Commission members for your service to our community and
the opportunity to address you tonight. My name is Henry Miles. My wife and I have been residents of
Shorewood for 17 years. We live at 24035 Mary Lake Trail.
I am speaking this evening because of my concerns that the City of Shorewood in considering the
Minnetonka Country Club development has not adequately addressed serious traffic issues of which it is
aware. Going back to the beginning of this process, these long- standing issues have been
communicated to the Mayor and City Council, and the City's agents including Stantec, by residents
verbally and through emails, and on -line via MinnetonkaMindmixerCC.com.
As a context for my remarks, I refer specifically to the issue of traffic along what is referred to as the
"cut- through" including Country Club Road, Yellowstone Trail, and Lake Linden Drive as bounded by the
Smithtown / County Road 19 and the Highways 7 / 41 intersections.
The cut - through and its southern terminus have also been described by staff, including the City's
Planning Director, in various documents and memoranda in possession of the City Council, as quote
"substandard ", quote "severely congested ", and quote "not improved to collector standards ". In fact,
even our Interim Chief of Police — a 30 -year veteran of the Edina Police Department including 10 year as
their Chief of Police — has questioned how effective his department can be with traffic law enforcement
given volume and road design issues along the cut - through. In other words, those who oversee and
police these roads agree that the cut - through is seriously deficient.
It is important for us to recognize that Mattamy Homes, their consultant Spack, and the City's consultant
Stantec who is reimbursed by Mattamy do not share our concerns about traffic volume and congestion
created by the planned development. Why would they; they are outsiders, they don't live here, and
they don't suffer the frustration and danger of these roads on a daily basis as we do. And, honestly,
when have you ever heard a developer say that their project would have a negative impact.
This does not mean that they are bad people; they are in business to profit. But when they and their
consultants claim that the development will not add materially to traffic along the cut - through — when
they suggest, in effect, that the Lake Linden Drive / Highways 7 / 41 intersection will become, 'only just a
little bit more severely congested' — we all must reflect on the conflicts of interest that arise when any
developer postures to get their project approved.
We all should also carefully consider when we read their reports and listen to them speak that when the
development is completed and last home is sold, Mattamy and its consultants will be long gone on to
their next project and they will be unaccountable for the after - effects that we as citizens of Shorewood
will be left to endure.
I also want to be as clear as I can be on another point, and that is that is it not fair to blame Mattamy for
traffic system flaws that preexisted their application. However, this does not mean that the City of
Shorewood can or should avoid these issues now given the extra traffic load that the development will
add to the road system especially on those parts of the cut - through that are contiguous to Mattamy's
property.
With this as background, I request that the City of Shorewood require that Mattamy Homes fulfill three
requirements as a condition of approval of their plan:
• First, Mattamy should be required to shorten the length of their cul -de -sacs projecting toward
Country Club Road.
Second, Mattamy should be required to eliminate a few homes along that side of the
development with the objective of ensuring that the City of Shorewood has a deeper right -of-
way in order to convert Country Club Road into a divided and wavy parkway to calm the traffic
that travels along it. The idea for a parkway is Mayor Zerby's with which I am in complete
agreement.
• Finally, Mattamy should be required to ensure that the parkway has both bike and pedestrian
paths next to and generally parallel to Country Club Road that are accessible near the corners of
that street near Smithtown Road and Yellowstone Trail.
These are reasonable requirements for two reasons. First, the density of the project was 'originally
advertised' to be 121 homes is now been expanded to be 140 homes so Mattamy has some lots to 'give
back'. Secondly, based on historical sale statistics, the $800,000 to $1,000,000 homes that Mattamy has
said it will build will take many years to absorb meaning that to give back some lots today should not
present a hardship on them.
The opportunity to implement a reasonable design for the development proposed by Mattamy will
present itself only once: now. Residents of the City of Shorewood should not expect that there will be
opportunities for the City to force Mattamy to address traffic safety and congestion issues in the future.
It is the City of Shorewood's responsibility to ensure that the issues are addressed up front before
approval is given to Mattamy to proceed.
In conclusion, the City of Shorewood has a responsibility to address traffic issues that have repeatedly
been brought to its attention by residents and staff and that should have been addressed in the past.
Furthermore, the City also has an obligation to provide for the future safety and sustainable growth of
our community by conditioning approval of development proposals on the adoption of reasonable
measures to address predictable and communicated traffic concerns. I therefore ask the Planning
Commission as appointed by the City Council as the elected representatives of the residents of
Shorewood to seize this important opportunity and recommend the redesign as Country Club Road as I
have outlined.
As for Mattamy, I hope they will demonstrate their good faith toward our community by offering to
adjust their plans and make the accommodations I propose without asking for consideration from the
City of Shorewood.
I ask that these remarks, hardcopy of which I just provided to the Planning Commission and staff, be
submitted verbatim into the record. Thank you again.