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01-07-2020 Planning Commission Meeting CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD TUESDAY JANUARY 7, 2020 7:00 P.M. A G E N D A CALL TO ORDER ROLL CALL / (LIAISON) SCHEDULE MADDY (FEB.) ______ GORHAM (tbd) ______ EGGENBERGER (tbd) ______ GAULT (JAN.) ______ RIEDEL (tbd) ______ 1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES December 03, 2019 3. PUBLIC HEARINGS A) MATTHEW SAYER - PRELIMINARY PLAT AND LOT WIDTH AND AREA VARIANCES Applicant: Sathre-Bergquist, Inc. Location: 20325 Excelsior Boulevard (Open public hearing and continue to February 4, 2020) 4. OTHER BUSINESS A) ZONING ORDINANCES AMENDMENT Miscellaneous text amendments 5. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR 6. REPORTS Council Meeting Report Update on New Construction Permits and Rental Licensing Draft next meeting agenda Sensible Land Use Coalition January Program 7. ADJOURNMENT CITY OF SHOREWOODCOUNCIL CHAMBERS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2019 7:00 P.M. MINUTES CALL TO ORDER Chair Maddy called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. ROLL CALL Present: Chair Maddy; Commissioners Gorham and Gault; Planning Director Darling; and, Council Liaison Siakel Absent: Commissioners Riedel and Eggenberger 1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Gorham moved, Gault seconded, approving the agenda for December 3, 2019, as presented. Motion passed 3/0. 2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES October 22, 2019 Gorham moved, Gault seconded, approving the Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of October 22, 2019, as presented. Motion passed 3/0. 3. PUBLIC HEARINGS - NONE Chair Maddy explained the Planning Commission is comprised of residents of the City of Shorewood who are serving as volunteers on the Commission. The Commissioners are appointed to help the City Council in determining zoning and develop the factual record for an application and to make a non-binding recommendation to the City Council. The recommendation is advisory only. A. PUBLIC HEARING WALNUT HILL COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT; REZONE TO R-1C; PRELIMINARY AND FINAL PLATS Applicant: Debra Hunt Location: 24340 Yellowstone Trail Planning Director Darling gave an overview of the application regarding 24340 Yellowstone Trail. She explained that the application is to subdivide the property into two lots to allow for the construction of one additional single family home. She stated that the applicant has also applied to change the Comprehensive Plan land use plan from minimum density residential to low density residential. She explained that staff is not recommending approval of the Comprehensive Plan land use amendment for just the applicant property and had encouraged the applicant to speak with the neighboring properties to join this application. She stated that because staff does not recommend this change, they also cannot support the rezoning request because it would allow for development that would be inconsistent with the land use plan. She stated that this also CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 3, 2019 Page 2 of 6 means that staff cannot support the subdivision request because it needs to be consistent with both the zoning district and Comprehensive Plan. She stated that the City has received two letters regarding this application, one expressing concern and the other indicating support. Commissioner Gorham stated that staff had indicated that they would encourage the property owner to apply for the Comprehensive Plan amendment as a larger group and asked how many property owners would be necessary for the City to consider changing a larger area of land use. Planning Director Darling stated that they have asked residents to work with their surrounding neighborhood, a specific number is not required. Commissioner Gorham asked whether it would be asking for the whole street in this instance. Planning Director Darling stated that it would be a few of the surrounding parcels, and at a minimum, the property to the west and a few properties surrounding it. She stated that the property owner can speak to the question of who they contacted in the neighborhood. She noted that the properties to the south are all zoned R-1C and the properties on the north and east are zoned R-1A. She stated that there is one other parcel across the street to the west that has also been guided for the minimum density for the land use. Sarah Bennett, attorney for Debra Hunt, the applicant, appeared and explained that Ms. Hunt currently lives in California and is the trustee for her father, Marvin Boote. She explained that Mr. Boote has owned this property since 1960 and is now 93 and has moved to California to be with his daughter. She stated that she disagrees that allowing this change would change the character of the neighborhood because much of the area is already zoned R-1C and would only require a map amendment in the Comprehensive Plan. She noted that a tree preservation plan was submitted as part of this application so they will not interfere in the natural landscape in the area. Commissioner Gorham asked about her distinction between a text amendment and a map amendment on the Comprehensive Plan. Ms. Bennett explained that she did not see anything when she was reading the Comprehensive Plan that would require a text amendment. She stated that this amendment would not try to thwart any of the policy objectives in the Plan. She stated that she understands Planning Director ask whether this application really interferes or takes away from the goals of the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Gorham asked why Ms. Bennett thinks this situation is unique and would not set a precedent. Ms. Bennett stated that she believes the City needs to take a look at the properties in the surrounding areas as well. She stated that they contacted some of the neighbors regarding the Comprehensive Plan amendment. She explained that one submitted comments in opposition and one has submitted comments in support. She stated that, to her knowledge, the rest of the neighbors are not opposed to the amendment, but do not see any practical benefit for themselves at this time. Commissioner Gault stated that it appears as though the only reason the current property owners want to make this change is for financial gain. He stated that he does not like the idea of spot zoning. CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 3, 2019 Page 3 of 6 Ms. Bennett stated that there is someone interested in purchasing the property. She stated that if this is rezoned, they would hope that some of the surrounding properties would also rezone in the future, but if they do not, she does not believe that it will be inconsistent with the entire surrounding area. She stated that she does not see this change sticking out like a sore thumb. Chair Maddy opened the Public Hearing at 7:32 P.M. noting the procedures used in a Public Hearing. Ed Hasken, 24315 Yellowstone Trail, stated that he has lived here for 28 years. He stated that he spoke with most of the surrounding neighbors on behalf of Mr. Boote. He stated that seven of the properties stated that they did not care if this was done, but did not want to participate in the process. He noted that the lots around them are not able to be subdivided because they are either too narrow or too small. He reiterated that the neighbors do not oppose the subdivision. He stated that if this lot were subdivided it would help the City pay the infrastructure costs for the water in the area. He stated that if approved, there would be financial gains for the City as well as the property owner. He stated that he does not think the potential financial gains is reason for the City to deny this request. letter explaining their position. Mr. Hasken stated that he knows that one neighbor did not oppose the plans, but had problems with the BooteHe stated that he was unsure they the others did not submit a letter. There being no additional comment, Chair Maddy closed the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:40 P.M. Chair Maddy explained that the City needs to apply the standards and policies uniformly and consistently. Commissioner Gault stated that he does not support doing the spot zoning that is proposed. Gorham moved, Gault seconded, recommending the Council deny the request by Debra Hunt, 24340 Yellowstone Trail, for a Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Rezone to R-1C and Preliminary and Final Plats. Motion passed 3/0. Planning Director Darling noted that this item will come before the Council on January 13, 2020. B. PUBLIC HEARING MATTHEW SAYER PRELIMINARY PLAT AND LOT WIDTH AND AREA VARIANCES Applicant: Sathre-Bergquist, Inc. Location: 20325 Excelsior Boulevard Planning Director Darling stated that the applicant proposes to subdivide the parcel and build two, two-family dwellings with each half of the townhome being on its own lot. She noted that the applicant has indicated that they are not quite ready to move forward and have requested additional time to complete their paperwork. Staff recommends that the Planning Commission open the public hearing and continue it to a future date. Chair Maddy opened the Public Testimony portion of the Public Hearing at 7:49 p.m. CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 3, 2019 Page 4 of 6 Gorham moved, Gault seconded to continue the Public Hearing for the Preliminary Plat and Variances requested by Sathre-Bergquist, Inc., for property located at 20325 Excelsior Boulevard, until January 7, 2020. Motion passed 3/0. 4. OTHER BUSINESS MINOR SUBDIVISION AND LOT AREA VARIANCES Applicant: Lake West Development, LLC Location: 24845 Smithtown Road Planning Director Darling stated that the applicant is proposing to remove the existing buildings and subdivide the property into two lots that would access Club Lane. She stated that because of the right-of-way dedications and easements, the lots are slightly smaller than allowed which is why staff is recommending approval of the variances proposed subject to the conditions as listed in the report. Commissioner Gorham asked if the neighborhood had been contacted regarding these plans. Planning Director Darling stated that all property owners within 500 feet were notified. Commissioner Gault asked if a variance would be required without the roadway easements they are providing to the City. Planning Director Darling stated that without the easements, they would have an adequate amount of land and would not need a variance. Curt Fretham, Lake West Development, appeared before the Commission. Chair Maddy opened public comment at 8:00 p.m. and there being no public comment, closed that portion of the meeting. Gault moved, Gorham seconded, to recommend the Council approve the Minor Subdivision and Lot Area Variances request by Lake West Development, LLC, with conditions as listed in the staff report for property located at 24845 Smithtown Road. Motion passed 3/0. Planning Director Darling noted that this will be on the Council agenda on December 9, 2019. Chair Maddy recessed the meeting at 8:01 p.m. and reconvened at 8:05 p.m. C. MINOR SUBDIVISION/COMBINATION (LOT LINE REARRANGEMENT) Applicant: Keenan & Sveiven, Inc. Location: 22425 Murray Street Planning Director Darling explained that this application is for a lot line adjustment between two properties that are owned by the same property owner. She noted that the requested change is to accommodate changes to the pool and accessory buildings and allow for additional impervious surface coverage. She stated that staff recommends approval subject to drainage and utility easement dedication. Chair Maddy asked whether the parcels are within the Shoreland District. CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 3, 2019 Page 5 of 6 Planning Director Darling noted that the northerly portion of the lots would be part of the Shoreland District. Gault moved, Gorham seconded by to recommend approval of the request by Keenan & Sveiven, Inc. for a lot line rearrangement for the property at 22425 Murray Street, subject to the dedication of the drainage and utility easement. Motion passed 3/0. Planning Director Darling noted that this will be on the Council agenda for December 9, 2019. 5. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR Chair Maddy noted that the Commission had received a letter reminding them of resident concerns regarding lighting near the Shorewood Landing facility. Planning Director Darling stated that the direction she received from the Commission was to look at lighting standards for commercial properties but was not given any direction for changes in code for holiday lighting. She stated that she will be looking at the commercial regulations and may have that ready for discussion at the January or February meetings. Councilmember Siakel asked if the City could make a simple phone call and ask that the lights be turned off by 11:00 p.m. or something to help accommodate the nearby residents. Planning Director Darling explained that she has been doing that for the last few years. 6. REPORTS Liaison to Council Council Liaison Siakel November 25, 2019, meeting and the Truth in Taxation meeting on December 2, 2019 (as detailed in the minutes for those meetings). Commissioner Gault asked if anything had happened surrounding the discussion of a new traffic study for access to Highway 7 with the intent of determining the possibility of lights at Eureka. Planning Director Darling explained that discussion was within the context of a review of a development application. She stated that if the application moves forward, the City can ask for the traffic study, but if there is a lower density proposal for this parcel, it may not be necessary. She noted that the elected officials were going to have a higher-level discussion with the appointed officials at MnDot on the needs in the area. Council Liaison Siakel gave a brief update on the request from Tonka Bay for the City to vacate their easement for their proposed apartment building near the Public Works facility. Draft Next Meeting Agenda Planning Director Darling stated the and lot width variances for Sathre-Bergquist for the property at 20325 Excelsior Boulevard is slated for the January 7, 2019, Planning Commission meeting. She stated that she also plans to work on some draft code amendments for discussion at this meeting. Council Liaison Schedule: CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 3, 2019 Page 6 of 6 Commissioner Gault January Chair Maddy February 7. ADJOURNMENT Gault moved, Gorham seconded, adjourning the Planning Commission Meeting of December 3, 2019, at 8:28 P.M. Motion passed 3/0. CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us MEMORANDUM TO: Planning Commission, Mayor and City Council FROM: Marie Darling, Planning Director MEETING DATE: January 7, 2020 RE: Preliminary plat and variances for a subdivision of property APPLICANT: Sathre-Bergquist, Inc. LOCATION: 20325 Excelsior Blvd REVIEW DEADLINE: To be determined ZONING: R-2A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN: Low to Medium Density Residential (3-6 units per acre) FILE NO.: 19.25 REQUEST The applicant proposes to subdivide the subject properties into four lots for two new single-family homes. At this time the applicant requests additional time to complete their application. Notice of the application was published in the official newspaper at least 10 days prior to the meeting. A mailed notice and a revised mailed notice was sent to all property owners within 750 feet of the property. Staff requests this item be continued to the February 4, 2020 meeting to allow the applicant time to complete their application. ATTACHMENTS Location map S:\Planning\Planning Files\Applications\2019 Cases\Matthew Sayer Subd\PC memo - Continuance..docx CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 Country Club Road Shorewood, Minnesota 55331 952-960-7900 www.ci.shorewood.mn.us cityhall@ci.shorewood.mn.us MEMORANDUM TO: Planning Commission FROM: Marie Darling, Planning Director MEETING DATE: January 7, 2020 RE: Update of Zoning Text Amendments for Discussion Purposes Attached are amendments to the zoning, subdivision and nuisance regulations.The amendments are split into two groups Housekeeping (H) or Substantive (S). Housekeeping regulations are self-explanatory; they provide clarification or correct references, grammar, spelling, spacing, etc., and are not presented separately below. The substantive amendments reflect a change in process or practice and are explained below individually. Lighting regulations Earlier this year, the Planning Commission received a request from a resident living across Chaska Road from Shorewood Landings for relief from the holiday lighting impacts. The Planning Commission and City Council both discussed making some changes to the lighting regulations, although the City Council indicated that there should be fewer changes for lighting for single-family properties. Zoning ordinances are not retroactive; the new regulations would be applied for properties moving forward. Nuisance ordinances may be applied to existing properties. The proposed lighting regulations were drafted primarily to reduce glare and off-site impacts for non- residential lighting and for residential properties with apartments larger than six units. The lighting section would be split into two groups: Regulations to prevent glare (1201.03 Subd. 2. i.) : Modernizes the language and includes language addressing both direct lighting and indirect (spill) lighting. Staff included language addressing spotlights and floodlights in this section and such requirements would be subject to all uses city-wide. However, the Commission could direct that the regulations on uplighting could be incorporated into section 1201.03 Subd. 2. v. and apply only to non-residential and apartment larger than six units. Regulations to control brightness (1201.03 Subd 2. v.): The regulations were drafted to limit mounting height, brightness, color, shielding, etc. and developers would be responsible for providing information on the site lighting with their other development review details. Properties would be allowed a maximum number of lumens based on the total area of impervious surface, with some additional lumens allowed for gas stations and drive-thru service windows. Page 2 The changes to the lighting regulations also include an amendment to the nuisance regulations to add holiday lights when lit between 11 p.m. and 7 a.m. Allowing two homes on a property Because conditional use permits are typically used for permanent additions, staff recommends reviewing this type of request using an interim use permit as they usually have a defined end date. Staff also recommends increasing the amount of time the property owner can keep a second home on the property as construction duration is increasing with the size and complexity of new homes. The code could allow a specific amount of time, like nine months or use a specific point in construction to determine when it would be appropriate to remove the existing house, like when the water supply is hooked up to the new house.. Allow portico additions to encroach into the front setback in all districts During the review of a variance application in 2018 for a variance to allow a front portico, one of the Councilmembers suggested that a portico may be an appropriate allowance for all homes, not just those constructed prior to 1986. The proposed regulations would open up the encroachment to all homes. Egress pit encroachments During the review of a similar PUD amendment for the Minnetonka Country Club, the City Council considered whether it would be appropriate to allow egress pits the ability to encroach into yards for homes outside the Minnetonka Country Club. Because homes in older subdivision may not have had an extensive drainage review, staff propose to allow the egress pits in required front, side abutting a public street or rear yards, but preserving the 10-foot side-yard setbacks for homeowners to have some ability to correct drainage problems between homes without a permanent structure in the way. Digital order signs This amendment is to allow all drive-thru businesses the ability to add a digital order confirmation board as a separate sign rather than having to combine it with their menu board. This amendment was discussed originally during the review of the Starbucks variance request for the separate order station. Zoning permits The list of uses and projects in the code that require a The permits are supposed to be used for checking setbacks and impervious surface coverage where no other dimensional/hardcover regulations and staff has never processed a permit for either: irrigation systems and dog fences. Additionally, another listed use is for tents and canopies for periods longer than 2 weeks, but the zoning except as permitted for outdoor sales through a conditional use patios, sidewalks and similar. Consequently staff has added those uses to this section. PUD process The current PUD requirements are process intensive. For example, the concept plan requires multiple public hearings, one at the Planning Commission and one at the City Council. Each hearing requires separate publication in the official newspaper and mailed notices to neighbors. Published legal notices are the least effective means to convey information to the public and the most expensive. Staff propose to limit the public hearings to one at concept stage and one at development stage and a mailed notice for each of those public hearings. Both public hearings would be held in front of the Planning Commission. Page 3 Minor subdivisions/combinations The City no longer has any review authority over lot combinations; the County is the reviewer for that type of application. All language referring to combinations has been removed. The changes proposed to minor subdivisions include changing to the duration of time to be consistent with state statute. Staff also propose to remove the ability of properties to complete multiple minor subdivisions on properties. Currently, a property owner can subdivide property by minor subdivision if the property was created by a minor subdivision prior to 1985, a plat or an RLS. Dividing properties by metes and bounds subdivisions creates messy legal descriptions and the issues are compounded with multiple subdivisions regardless of when the division was approved. Consequently, staff propose allowing minor subdivisions on properties that have been previously platted to minimize the overly complicated legal. Minor subdivisions do not require any mailed notice to homeowners and none is required by statute. The Commission could consider adding a requirement for a mailed notice to the neighborhood into the process. Subdivision variance process Subdivision variances are typically reviewed with a subdivision, either a plat or a minor subdivision. require a public hearing and requiring a public hearing for a variance is unnecessary. Staff do not recommend removing the mailed notice to adjacent homeowners. ATTACHMENT Table of Proposed Amendments Draft Ordinance Minutes from Planning Commission meeting and City Council meeting (lighting discussion) Table of Proposed Revisions Amendment S/H Reason for Revision Page # # Amendments to the Zoning Ordinance 1 H Clarify definition to reflect practice 1 2 H Change definition of church to religious institution, both terms used 1 throughout ordinance 3 H Change definition to reflect current practice 1 4 H Remove dimensions from definition (repeated in 1201.03 Subd. 14) 1 5 H Correct definition to reflect practice 1 6 H Clarify definition to reflect practice 1 7 H Clarify definition to reflect practice 1 8 S Add lighting related definitions to provide additional regulatio 2 9 H Change definition of church to religious institution, both terms2 throughout ordinance 10 H Change reference from church to religious institution 2 11 S Change process for the allowance of two structures on a lot from2-3 conditional to interim and to reflect current building practices 12 H Previous removed this language, but left in by codifiers 3 13 H Change process to reflect current practice 3 14 H Add language to reflect current practice 3 15 H Change tree size to be consistent with Tree Preservation and 4 Replacement policy 16 H Change regulations to reflect recent change in Right-of-Way 4 regulations or to reflect current practice 17 H Grammar correction 4 18 S Clarify glare regulations 4-5 19 H Correct district references 5-6 20 S Add additional lighting regulations 6-8 21 H/S Separate two unrelated regulations into separate paragraphs, all8-9 portico additions to the front of homes regardless of date of construction 22 H Provide clarity to regulation 9 23 H Amend pool setbacks to allow safety egress around pool 9 24 H Grammar correction 9 25 S Allow for egress pits in front and rear yards as directed after 9 in PUD for Mntka Country Club subdivison 26 H Change reference 10 27 H Grammar correction 10 28 H Preserve drainage and utility easements for those purposes 10-11 29 H Change references 11 30 H Change references 11 31 H Clarify status of canvas/vinyl. Revise 150 square foot reference to be 12 st consistent with 1 sentence 32 H Add prohibited materials in residential construction 12 33 H Add stucco to the list of allowable uses and some additional 12 flexibility in the design of commercial structures 34 H Add a maximum height for directional signs 13 35 H Correct spelling error 13 36 S Allow digital order confirmation signs in addition to menu board14 drive-thru service windows 37 H Change process to correct current practice 14 38 H Correct home occupation prohibition to avoid duplication in section 15 502 of City code. 39 H Correct reference to terms used elsewhere in the zoning regulati 15 40 H Correct district references 15 41 H Add PUDs and correct reference to current practice 15 42 H Reduce number of plans submitted 16 43 H Change process to reflect current practice 16 44 S Amend zoning permits regulations to reflect current practice 16-17 45 H Clarify reference, remove uses that are not likely to occur 17 46 H Correct references 18 47 H Clarify reference 19 48 H Correct reference 19 49 H Add religious institutions as a permitted use 21 50 H Remove extra space 22 51 H Correct lighting references 22-28 52 H Add the reference to the permitted use 28 53 H Correct lighting reference 29 54 S Correct the PUD process to reflect current practice and state statute 29-31 55 S Correct the PUD process to be consistent with state statute and 31-32 current practice 56 S Correct the PUD process to be consistent with state statute and 32-33 current practice. Allow final plan approval to last one year Amendments to the Subdivision Regulations 1 H Correct the process to reflect current practice and state statut 34-36 2 H Modernize reference 36 3 S Clarify process for minor subdivisions and remove requirements f37-38 review of consolidations 4 S Correct the process for subdivision variance to reflect current 38-40 practice and state statutes Amendments to the Nuisance Regulations 1 S Add holiday lights between 11 p.m. and 7 a.m. 42 CITY OF SHOREWOOD REGULAR COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES March 25, 2019 Page 5 of 8 E. Direction on Potential Lighting Amendments Planning Director Darling explained some of the discussion that the Planning Commission held regarding lighting concerns raised by a resident that lives near Shorewood Landing. She stated that the Planning Commission has requested that the City consider additional regulations concerning light sources, uplight and glare restrictions, additional hooding/shielding requirements, a maximum amount of lumens for signs and commercial sites, and commercial lighting levels overall. She stated that the Planning Commission was split on whether to apply nuisance lighting restrictions to holiday lighting. She stated that there is also some language in the existing that she would like Council direction in order to continue working on these potential changes. Mayor Zerby stated that output is important and easy for the City to look and supports cleaning up the outdated language as well. residential. Mayor Zerby stated that he thinks commercial is where it is needed, not residential usage. CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 5, 2019 Page 7 of 10 D. Discuss Potential Amendments to Lighting Ordinance Planning Director Darling noted that at the January 15, 2019 meeting, a resident spoke during the Matters from the Floor portion of the meeting regarding concerns about lighting on the adjacent property. She noted that this property owner had submitted some ideas for potential code amendments for the City to consider with regard to lighting. She noted that she had summarized the research from other community ordinances in the staff report. She stated that she recommends at least updating the nuisance lighting portion of the ordinance, and limiting the lighting that can be used to illuminate a sign, but does not recommend making a restriction on holiday lighting because of First Amendment concerns. Commissioner Eggenberger stated that he would like to table this discussion until the May meeting to allow for time to study the information she had gathered. Planning Director Darling noted that she is not looking for a particular code amendment but would like some comments and opinions from the Commission as to whether the Lighting Ordinance needs updating. She explained that she would just like feedback on areas where the Commission would like to see her improve the code. Cindy Marr, 1615 Chaska Road, stated that what she would like to see a timing element added to the code for the extra lights that Shorewood Landing has and gave the example of them having to be turned off at 11:00 p.m. She stated that there are 28 balconies from this building looking at her yard that could all have Christmas lights. She noted that she has no problem with Christmas lighting, but is concerned about the timing and the duration. She reiterated the problem with their sign lighting blocking her vision when she is in her driveway. Commissioner Gorham stated that hooded spotlights should be included in the ordinance. Commissioner Riedel stated that he would like to see the code be made so it is simple, clear, and more objective rather than subjective. Chair Maddy stated that he would like to see light not shine off of any properties and stay on their own. Ms. Marr stated that the Shorewood Landing has put lighting along the top of their building and that is not Christmas lighting. Chair Maddy explained that the Commission is just talking about the lighting ordinance as a whole and not just looking at Shorewood Landing. Commissioner Gault stated that he feels holiday lighting could have some regulations in order to help people respect their neighbor, similar to the noise ordinance that has certain levels of decibels allowed overnight. Planning Director Darling stated that the City would have to be very careful how the language was crafted in order not to infringe on First Amendment rights. Commissioner Eggenberger stated that he would like to see language that requires hooded lighting. Commissioner Riedel stated that he was uncomfortable restricting timing of lights. CITY OF SHOREWOOD PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MARCH 5, 2019 Page 8 of 10 The Commission discussed areas of the code that they would like to see addressed in the code such as; uplight, glare, intensity, max lumens, and commercial lighting levels.