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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Haugen called the meeting to order at 7:30 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Mayor Haugen, Councilmembers Gagne, Stover, Brancel,
Watten, Administrator Whittaker and Finance Director Rolek.
REVIEW AGENDA
Gagne requested that the Council add a discussion on Iron Removal as
item * 13.
Gagne moved, Brancel seconded, to approve the agenda as amended.
Motion carried - 3/0. (Watten and Stover absent).
Watten arrived at 7:35 P.M. and Stover arrived at 7:35 P.M.
CONFLICT OF INTEREST - WATER METER SYSTEM, BOB POLSTON
Mr. Polston presented a history of the water meter bidding. The City
originally wanted the meters read on the inside. Munitech was hired
to do this. It is not easy to enter houses to read the meters and
there were complaints about the differences in the readings. He
talked to the staff and he said it is cost prohibitive to try to enter
these houses. He told the City there are systems available that can
be read from the outside. There are two manufacturers Sensus and
Neptune. Pains were taken not to slant the specs. American Water
Works standards were used.
Haugen said Polston was given specific instructions by the Council to
draw up the specs.
Polston said some of the meters in the City can be converted. The
staff made sure the interests of the City were served.
Gagne asked if he wrote the specs. so that Water Products could not
bid. Polston said no.
Whittaker said they were given specifications and asked to bid.
Whittaker stated that no conflict of interest existed if Polston was
not making the decision. The bids were sealed. The specs. could have
been more specific but the bidders can propose alternatives.
Water Products did not bid. Attorney Froberg told Whittaker there was
no conflict.
Finance Director Rolek met with all of the bidders and discussed the
total program. Whittaker felt the staff's motives were impugned by
these charges. Now the meters in Amesbury will have to be replaced
using the old meter system.
Polston said the specs. are a generic technical spec. and any major
manufacturer would comply.
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JOHN SELVOG - WATER PRODUCTS COMPANY
Mr. Selvog said Water Products Company had two major objections.
1. The company felt the spec. was too generic. His product was not
the same product as Neptune.
2. The company cannot beat the price of the Neptune system as they
have a different and better product.
Mr. Selvog would like to give an on-site presentation of their
product. The letter that was written did not say their was a conflict
of interest; it did say that the City needed to ask more questions
about the meter systems. He wanted to know if the City was being
given all the information so they can make an informed decision.
Gagne asked if the current meters need to be replaced. Whittaker and
Rolek said many do. However, they won't all be replaced now. It would
be done as needed.
DANIEL B. MARTIN - WATER PRODUCTS COMPANY
Mr. Martin wrote the letter to the City. He didn't think Mr. Polston
acted improperly. He wanted the City to receive more information.
. ,Whittaker said they could invite Carl Zeimer from Excelsior to listen
to the presentations, extend the time for obtaining quotes, and
evaluate them in light of new information any bidder might supply.
KIM FOSTER - WATER PRODUCTS
Mr. Foster said he worked for 12 years with Rockwell International and
knows the Sensor system. He felt the specifications were not detailed
enough and the City should get the system they need.
He said there are reasons Rockwell uses ASCII readings. He would be
glad to write another spec. He said AWWA uses minimum qualifications.
Mr. Foster said Water Products was not given an opportunity to present
their ideas.
Councilmember Watten said a performance based spec. allows other to
come in and present alternatives.
Polston said the other bidders had no problem using the specs.
Councilmember Stover asked if the systems were identical. Did Water
Products tell you they had a better product.
Watten explained the procedure for bidding on specs.
Haugen asked why Water Products didn't suggest a new system to the
City. Whittaker explained that both companies have given
comprehensive demonstrations to Rolek and had not suggested a
different spec.
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Watten moved, Gagne seconded, to extend the bidding process until Oct.
8th for the water meter system.
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Motion carried - 5/0.
Whittaker felt they should bring in someone from Excelsior or
Minnetonka to help evaluate the system.
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Watten wanted to know about conversion of the current system and the
life expectancy.
WATER SHUT-OFFS - CITY CODE.
Whittaker said the policy is stated in the City Code * 903.09/903.11.
Stover wanted to know why the policy wasn't followed.
Rolek said he didn't know about the policy.
Haugen said the staff members should review the Ordinances in their
departments.
Watten said that perhaps they should review an Ordinance per month at
the Council meetings.
Brancel and Gagne said the large commercial water user has still not
paid their bill. Gagne felt they should be shut off.
Gagne moved, Brancel seconded, to give the Commercial properties in
the City that have delinquent water bills due notice and shut off the
water if the bills are not paid.
Motion carried - 5/0.
POLICY ON NOTIFICATION - CITY MAINTENANCE, RADISSON/COVINGTON ROADS.
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Whittaker said the City could have a lot of problems if they had to
notify residents every time they did maintenance work.
Haugen said there is a person who is very allergic to tar on Radisson
Road and she should be notified. Whittaker said there may be extreme
cases; but general notification would be expensive and time consuming.
The Council agreed with Whittaker.
SUMMARY OF BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS - AL ROLEK.
Stover moved, Watten seconded to remove $3000 from the budget for new
lighting.
Motion failed - 2/3 (Gagne, Brancel and Haugen nay) .
Watten moved, Gagne seconded, to approve the following changes to the
budget:
PROPOSED REVISED
ITEM BUDGET BUDGET DIFFERENCE
Council Salaries 9,600 12,600 3,000
Council PERA 480 630 150
Council Medicare 90 113 23
Council Volunteer Dnr. 2,000 2,500 500
League of Mn. Cities Due 2,975 3,375 400
Excelsior Fire Contract 77,740 83,127 5,387
Animal Control 12,000 15,000 3,000
Removal of Fuel Tanks -0- 10,000 10,000
Parks - Snowblower -0- 1,000 1,000
. Parks - Supplies 10,000 15,000 5,000
TOTALS 114,885 143,345 28,460
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1991 Proposed LevY
New LevY Required 1991
1991 Levy Limit
Excess Levy added to Capital Improvements
1,749,117
1,777,577
(1,840,663)
63,086
Motion carried - 5/0
Haugen said she would like to look into a joint powers agreement with
Excelsior for the Fire Dept.
Whittaker felt this might happen soon. Shorewood pays 1/3 of their
budget. The Fire Dept. now provides a budget and monthly reports for
the City, which they didn't 2 years ago. He will inquire about a
joint powers agreement or long-term contract.
APPROPRIATION ON BOND DEFEASANCE AND CAPITAL PROJECTS FUNDS
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Stover said she would like to have a referendum on Park Bonds to
obtain the consensus of the City. She personally thinks it will pass.
She would like a referendum before a lot of capital improvements are
put in, except for Silverwood Park.
Haugen said a lot more people are interested in their tax statements.
Stover said she would like to see the cost of gas tank removal taken
from sewer bond defeasance funds.
Haugen asked if there is a time limit on appropriation of these funds.
Rolek said they should consider the tone of the legislature. The City
should at least identify the use of these funds. Although there is no
time limit today, the Legislature might cut our levy limit if we have
unappropriated reserves.
Gagne felt the Defeasance Funds should be used for Capital
Improvements.
Stover said that part of moving the public works is the removal of the
tanks and is a capital project.
Gagne moved, Brancel seconded, to appropriate $150,000 plus 10%
related cost for the purchase of the public works site; appropriate
$65,000 to meet the debt service obligations for the remaining sewer
bonds; appropriate $51,000 to pay for the irrigation of the Freeman
Park ballfield.
Motion carried - 5/0.
Watten asked if Capital Improvements were for building and buying or
for maintenance, building and buying.
Stover felt the clean-up of the land near the fuel tanks is part of
the cost of moving them.
Haugen said Mr. Bishop had a new proposal. He wanted someone from
Public Works to replace the guard rail post between Shorewood Lane and
his property first, however.
The Public Works Dept. had installed them years ago but they were
knocked down.
. . Gagne said he was now convinced that money should be set aside for the
tank removal. He also said that Silverwood Park needed to be built.
The dedication fees from Waterford and other Southeast Area
subdivisions had been spent to purchase the land for Silverwood Park.
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Stover wants an accounting of the revenues obtained for Parks and what
has been spent in the Southeast Area already.
Whittaker said that $148,000 was not the only cost for Silverwood
Park.
Stover asked if they should set aside money for a future water system.
Haugen said they cannot budget for plans that are not approved.
Stover moved. Gagne seconded. to approve the addition of $10.000 to
the appropriation for the Public Works Site and $200.000 for tank
removal cleanup ( and identify this as pollution clean-up) from the
bond defeasance fund.
Motion carried - 5/0.
REVIEW 1990 PAY PLAN
Whittaker felt that individual performances should be evaluated in an
executive session but ranges should be set by the Council at this
Workshop.
Haugen asked if this pay plan gives the Council authority to set
individual salaries. Can the Council set the pay rate or will
Whittaker be setting the salaries?
Whittaker said he would have the authority only if they gave it to
him.
Brancel asked why the pay plan was a three year plan.
Whittaker said three years is the norm for cities. An employee learns
the job in three years.
Stover felt that the salaries should be tied to good performance not
to the length of time on the job.
Whittaker felt that employees want some kind of guideline for
salaries.
Brancel felt that the plan should have a beginning and ending salary
but not a middle range or they will expect to move within the range.
Haugen felt that performance is important.
Whittaker said they should identify where the range starts and ends
with a review after probation and each year after that, with raises
based on performance.
Stover asked what would happen when the top of the scale is reached.
It does not reward good people.
Stover said the Administrator does not have the authority to set
salaries but he needs guidelines. This plan is too rigid. An
employee might sue if he is not moved up.
Haugen said there have been complaints of high salaries at the City
level. Stover said they need to meet the market.
Whittaker said they needed to consider pay for comparable worth.
Whittaker said that Step 1 of the plan was for experienc.ed people not
trainees. The City should hire trained people or it will pay to train
them.
Brancel felt that Step 1 of the starting pay was not low enough.
Whittaker said if the Council handles salaries based on finances
alone. it will have a problem. Stover said the Council has no
knowledge of each Staff member's performance.
Gagne would like the flexibility to start the employee at less.
Council members wanted to include the phrase: "After probation (6
months), the Administrator may suggest a salary adjustment."
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Whittaker said a lot of work went into the salary ranges; they are in
line with the Stanton guidelines and, also, a private sector salary
survey and, these figures are already one year behind.
Gagne felt that with a declining economy, they could hire people for
less.
Whittaker said statistic indicated that there is a 4.1% increase in
wages and a 5.8% increase in inflation despite shifts in the economy.
Watten moved, Stover seconded, to approve the pay plan with the
following changes:
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Keep the beginning and ending salary ranges but eliminate
the middle steps.
Note * 1 should say: The pay range is based on averages for
similar positions in cities with similar populations, number
of employees, location and job descriptions.
Note * 2 should say: Normally, an employee would be hired at
80% of the TOP.
Note * 3 should say: After probation (6 months) the
Administrator may suggest a salary adjustment.
Note * 4 should say: After 1 year, an employee could go to
90% of the TOP.
Note * 5 should say: After 3 years, an employee could go to
95% of the TOP.
Note * 6 should say: After 5 years, an employee could go to
100% of the TOP.
The last paragraph should say: Employees may move more
slowly through the range if not meeting expectations, and
move more quickly if their performance warrants it.
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Motion carried - 4/1 (Brancel)
FRANKLIN DAY PLANNER SYSTEM - REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION
Whittaker attended the seminar and was impressed with the plan. He
felt that the department heads would benefit from attending the
seminar.
It will cost $185 each for three people to attend.
Gagne moved, Brancel seconded to send the Department Heads to the
Franklin Planning Seminar at a cost not to exceed $185 each.
Motion carried - 5/0
NOTICE ON SPECIAL TAXING DISTRICTS - DRAINAGE PROJECTS
Whittaker felt the City should send notices with a summary of the
progress on the Shady Hills and Glen Road projects to the residents
concerned.
The Council agreed.
PODIUM CHAIRS
There was no discussion.
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.. IRON REMOVAL
Gagne said that, from the Public Hearing, he gathered that most people
already had individual softening systems. He felt Shorewood already
had a water system of 600+ people. The City has 300 people who want
to increase the water use charge to pay for iron removal. A lot more
people will be connecting to this system.
Stover felt that until the water systems are connected the condition
of the water is part of the initial well set up and these users on the
system should pay. Amesbury may also request iron removal at some
future time.
Gagne does not want to set up a them and us situation.
Watten said they will have to hold a public hearing for a water rate
increase. This will probably bring to a head the City water problem.
Stover asked how we could use extra TIF. She asked Rolek what steps
have to be taken now.
Rolek said water treatment was identified in the original proposal.
The City won't know until the bids are in how much excess money will
be available. The plan could be amended to include water before
construction starts. He also said the water rate is high now.
Gagne did not want the subject put on the next City Council Agenda, if
there is no consensus.
SOUTH SHORE SENIOR CENTER
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Haugen read a letter from Larry Blackstad concerning alternative
locations and financing methods for a new Senior Center.
Watten moved, Gagne seconded, authorizing the Mayor to look into the
alternatives for financing the Senior Center.
Motion carried 5/0.
Watten said he always hears comments from residents regarding high
taxes. He wondered if the City should encourage some commercial
development to ease the tax burden.
Whittaker felt the City should promote the commercial areas they
already have and enhance them to increase tax values and revenues.
Haugen said that was a good idea.
Watten said the Planning Commission should do this.
Haugen said there is a Regional Transit Board seminar on Oct. 11-12.
ADJOURNMENT
Watten moved, Gagne seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 11:30 P.M.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
~ Katie Snyder
Recording Secretary
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