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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
TUESDA Y, NOVEMBER 12, 1996
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
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MINUTES
CONVENE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor Bean called the meeting to order at 7:32 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Mayor Bean; Councilmembers Benson, McCarty, Shaw, Stover; City
Administrator Hurm; City Attorney Tim Keane; and Engineer Larry Brown.
B. Review Agenda
Present:
McCarty moved, Shaw seconded to approve the agenda for November 12, 1996.
Motion passed 5/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
City Council Regular Meeting Minutes October 28, 1996
Shaw moved, Benson seconded to approve the City Council Regular Meeting
Minutes of October 28, 1996, as amended on Pages 2, 3, 4, and 5, under the
various items, change to read, "Consideration of a Motion to Adopt;" Page 3,
Item B, change motion to read, "approving" rather than "regarding;" Page 4, Item
C, change motion to read "approving" rather than "regarding." Motion passed
5/0.
City Council Special Session Meeting Minutes October 30, 1996
Stover moved, McCarty seconded to approve the City Council Special Session
Meeting Minutes of October 30, 1996, as submitted. Motion passed 5/0.
Canvassing Board Meeting Minutes November 6, 1996
Benson moved, Stover seconded to approve the Canvassing Board Meeting
Minutes of November 6, 1996, as submitted. Motion passed 5/0.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Bean read the Consent Agenda for November 12, 1996.
McCarty moved, Stover seconded to approve the Motions on the Consent Agenda
and to adopt the Resolutions therein:
A. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 96-100, "A Resolution
Establishing a 150' Buffer Zone on Area Lakes"
B. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 96-101, "A Resolution
Approving a Conditional Use Permit for Accessory Space Over 1,200
Square Feet"
Applicant:
Location:
Allan Larson
4320 Dellwood Lane
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A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 96-102, "A Resolution
Approving a Final Plat - McCary Addition"
Applicant:
Location:
Thomas and Mary McCary
6010 Ridge Road
D. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 96-103, "A Resolution
Correcting Levy #13502 and Authorizing Abatement of Assessment
for PID 32-117-23-22-0022"
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Laura Turgeon, 24670 Amlee Road, appeared as a resident and former Snowmobile Task Force
member. She expressed concern regarding a letter which is proposed to be sent out addressing
changes in the snowmobiling rules and ordinance and wanted an opportunity to provide input prior
to distribution of the letter. Ms. Turgeon suggested the new points be highlighted and bulleted.
She noted the Task Force's recommendation for zero tolerance is not mentioned or defined. Ms.
Turgeon also stated the police officers need to be made aware of the enforcement parameters.
Ms. Turgeon questioned the timing and relevance of the article noting the question of
snowmobiling on the LRT has not yet been decided. She further questioned the City's authority to
post signs on the portion of the trail belonging to Tonka Bay. In addition, Tonka Bay has not yet
filed for a permit. Ms. Turgeon also asked why the City did not take advantage of the extension
provision available through Hennepin Parks which would have extended the time period to request
a permit to November 7, 1996.
Ms. Turgeon did not feel the issues have been adequately represented to the Council and
Councilmembers have not been given accurate accounts of both sides of the issue. She asked the
Council to take a step back and re-evaluate the process being followed in this matter.
Mayor Bean noted the newsletter had not been sent due to a cover letter he was preparing to be
included. He explained four or five major bullets are outlined noting the change in which youth
under 14 are required to be accompanied by a guardian who has been certified, changes in speed
limits and time, as well as when, where, and who can use the snowmobile. Mayor Bean stated the
letter is intended to be sent to snowmobilers with a subsequent distribution to the snowmobiling
groups in the area.
Mayor Bean noted the Council has reviewed the Task Force recommendations and that
considerable discussion had involved the issue of zero tolerance. He explained the Council has not
yet come to agreement on all of the recommendations of the Task Force. The open issues
remaining include the usage of the LRT, the access at Crescent Beach and Timber Lane as well as
defining zero tolerance and what the measurement of that will be. Mayor Bean also explained the
Council has adopted changes to the ordinance relative to snowmobiles and this will be clearly
communicated to the police department.
Councilmember McCarty stated she would have liked to have known there was an opportunity to
take advantage of an extension provision through Hennepin Parks. In addition, she noted
residents have inquired as to the progress being made in light of the work which has been
completed by the Task Force.
Councilmember Stover noted she had not seen the newsletter. She agreed with Ms. Turgeon
relative to making a decision with respect to the grooming of Tonka Bay's portion of the trail.
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Allan Krutsch, 25725 Smithtown Road, urged the Council to ban snowmobile use on the trail. He
pointed out the trail is constructed through a residential area and felt this trail would be
inappropriate for any type of motorized use regardless of the time of season. He expressed
concerns of safety, noise, trespass and private property rights and felt that motorized use of the
trail would be incompatible with the area.
Mr. Krutch also commented on the proposed change of name for Eureka Way. He spoke in favor
of this change stating he owns the majority of the road which exists between his properties.
Tom Kelsey, 25605 Smithtown Road, noted there is a persistent minority of snowmobile ridership
which is reckless and disrespectful. He felt the speed and mobility of the machines would make
enforcement extremely difficult. He noted many snowmobiles routinely travel twice the speed
limit. In addition, Mr. Kelsey pointed out there is no 150-foot safety margin as there would be
relative to lake shore property. He stated if the Council approves mixed use on the trail, this would
not be a safe or responsible decision.
Mayor Bean clarified where the 150-foot zone extends and which rules apply within that 150-foot
zone. He further commented that Shorewood does not control the usage of snowmobiles on the
lake outside of the 150-foot buffer zone.
Clay Atkinson, 5735 Brentridge Drive, stated he had come to the meeting believing snowmobiles
could be left on the LRT, but had now changed his mind. He expressed concern with
snowmobiling in the wetland areas. Mr. Atkinson noted specific concerns relative to Church
Road.
Mayor Bean noted a time would be set for further discussion on the use of snowmobiles on the
LRT.
Connie Dove-Clover, 5457 Mallard Lane, noted her home is located 15 feet from the LRT
corridor. She stated her concurrence with Mr. Atkinson and Mr. Kelsey. Ms. Clover commented
she no longer allows her children to walk on the trail due to safety concerns. She requested her
children be allowed to address the Council relative to trail use with snowmobiles.
Ann Clover, 5457 Mallard Lane, stated she uses the trail daily and related an incident in which she
and a friend were forced to jump into a ditch because the oncoming snowmobiler made no attempt
to avoid them. She stated a fence had been built on their property to keep snowmobiles out of their
yard, however this remains a problem.
Jonathan Clover, 5457 Mallard Lane, related problems with snowmobiles on the trail noting they
travel at excessive speeds and have noisy mufflers, many over the decibel levels. He also related
instances when he has had to jump into the ditch area to avoid snowmobiles which operated
without regard for pedestrians. Mr. Clover noted this to be a very scary experience.
Ingrid Schaff, 25605 Smithtown Road, noted she had served on the Snowmobile Task Force for
almost a year and at that time had been informed there would be a vote in September relative to
snowmobile usage in Shorewood. Ms. Schaff also understood a decision had been made to
contact people residing along the LRT for input. She stated to date this has not been done. In
addition, Ms. Schaff commented that after having had three Task Forces over the years relative to
this issue, the ordinances still have not been communicated to the police department. Ms. Schaff
requested a date be set to allow residents along the trail to voice their concerns and suggested the
Councilmembers walk along the trail. Ms. Schaff expressed concern for a safe environment for
everyone.
Mayor Bean expressed appreciation for the comments of the residents and stated a date would be
set to review snowmobiling in the City.
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5. PLANNING
Commissioner Turgeon reviewed the matters considered and the actions taken by the Planning
Commission at their meeting on November 6, 1996 (as detailed in the minutes of that meeting).
6. CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION REGARDING A NAME CHANGE
FROM EUREKA WAY TO REUTIMAN LANE
Mayor Bean noted letters had been received from Lori and Michael Braun and Steven Jaeger in
opposition to this request noting the personal expense involved with address changes and property
legal description changes.
Robert Reutiman addressed the Council stating he has lived in the area since 1915. He provided
the Council with the history involved in the establishment of Eureka Way and stated he would like
to see the street renamed.
Tom Kelsey, 25605 Smithtown Road, spoke in favor of naming Eureka Way after the Reutiman
family. He felt this would be a suitable tribute to the family who has been an important part of the
community. Mr. Kelsey addressed the issue of Smithtown Meadows which is currently being
built around his property and would involve renaming of Smithtown Way to Reutiman Lane. He
proposed that particular road not be named Reutiman Lane noting he has a significant investment
from a business standpoint with respect to his business identity which is tied to the address on
Smithtown Road. He pointed out Smithtown Way would not be a significant departure, however,
Reutiman Lane would be.
Mayor Bean noted the petition being considered is for a change in name for the current Eureka Way
to Reutiman Lane.
Ingrid Schaff, 25605 Smithtown Road, noted there are actually two roads, Eureka Way, a one
block piece and then the trail crossing. At that point, the road continues on. She noted the Brauns
have a Eureka Way address. Ms. Schaff suggested the one block piece be named Reutiman Lane
which would allow Eureka Way to remain.
Councilmember McCarty asked if street names could be changed relative to postal regulations and
what type of expense this change would entail. Councilmember Benson stated he could not recall
the Council becoming involved in the naming of streets in the past.
Councilmember Stover suggested Eureka Way may be a private road. She noted there is a
contradiction in the belief of the homeowners as to who owns the land with which easement is
given to the other property owners. Councilmember Stover stated Eureka Way may be an
easement between two neighbors.
Mayor Bean felt the Reutiman family should receive some recognition, however it should be done
in a way in which the residents can be supportive of it and suggested looking for another
alternative to recognize the Reutiman family. Mayor Bean suggested possibly one of the parks
could be renamed after the Reutiman family. The Council was in agreement with this.
Councilmember Stover was in favor of recognition associated with a park type area because it
would be a broader recognition than naming a street. It was noted two possibilities would be
Silverwood Park or Manor Park. Mayor Bean suggested taking the matter under advisement to
find a more suitable recognition for the Reutiman family. In addition, Mayor Bean suggested
referring this matter to the Park Commission for their consideration.
Councilmember Stover requested if the Park Commission cannot find a solution, that this matter be
directed to staff for their assistance. Mayor Bean also pointed out one of the beaches could also be
a possibility.
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7.
DISCUSSION OF POLICY REGARDING COMBINATION OF LOTS AND
ASSESSMENTS
Administrator Hurm recommended since the subject property is no longer a lot, the assessment be
abated and that if it were subdivided in the future and sold resulting in a newly created lot, that the
charge be levied.
Mayor Bean noted the Council had not wanted to create incentives to subdivide lots. He felt the
installments should be abated and rebated. Mayor Bean inquired if there should be a time frame
established relative to recombinations of property.
Councilmember Stover felt the trunk charge, which the property owner requested be levied against
property is an expense of that property. Hurm pointed out this is no longer a buildable lot.
Mayor Bean felt if a property owner recombined property within one year of notice, possibly the
first installment and future installments could be abated. Councilmember McCarty pointed out two
separate issues are being considered, the request of the Hermans and the issue itself.
Hurm noted this situation is not likely to occur very often and could be handled on a case by case
basis. Mayor Bean felt there would need to be a reasonable time frame from the time of the
approved assessment to the recombination of the property for consideration to be given to a rebate.
Councilmember Shaw raised an issue with property being sold on a Contract for Deed. Mayor
Bean felt a Statement of Intent could be contained within the context of the Contract for Deed. If
that piece would be sold off, there could be a charge at that point. He felt this could be dealt with
within the facts and circumstances as each issue would come before the Council.
Lori Herman, 5645 Eureka Road, explained the property was purchased with the intent to keep it
so that it could not be developed. She noted there had been confusion between the water trunk
charge and the water assessment charge.
Mayor Bean suggested to the extent a property owner is considering a recombination, there could
be a direction to staff that any future requests with respect to the trunk charge should be presented
by petition to the Council. A reasonableness test could then be applied by the Council.
Councilmember Stover asked if there would be any way through the administrative process to
determine if a property owner plans to recombine a property or if a new lot is actually being
created. Engineer Brown felt inquiry could be made at the time a property is listed for sale.
Administrator Hurm felt the rebate should be sent to the person who paid the original amount.
Shaw moved, Stover seconded to rebate the original payment on the trunk charge
for 5635 Eureka Road and abate the remaining 14 installments due to the fact this
particular parcel is being recombined to an existing lot at 5645 Eureka Road.
Motion passed 5/0.
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8. CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION
ELECTING TO CONTINUE PARTICIPATING IN THE LOCAL HOUSING
INCENTIVES ACCOUNT PROGRAM UNDER THE METROPOLITAN
LIVABLE COMMUNITIES ACT
Tom Caswell, Community Development Division of the Metropolitan Council, was in attendance.
He explained a new program has been developed which provides a staff person to serve as a staff
representative to various communities. The goal of the Metropolitan Council is to assist
communities with the Livable Communities Act in addition to any other concerns which might
arise.
Mr. Caswell noted the Livable Communities Act encourages communities to assist in providing
affordable housing. He explained the affordable housing value in Shorewood is $115,000 and
monthly rent is $638 considering a salary of $28,000. Mr. Caswell notes this is a long range
program to the year 2010.
Mayor Bean commented when this issue was considered a year ago, there were matching grant
funds available to pursue some of the objectives. He noted communities can share their resources
in the process of identifying their goals which presents the opportunity to combine objectives and
identify them from a more regional basis such as the greater Excelsior area.
Mayor Bean noted two areas which are issues for Shorewood. First the amount of monies which
flow to the Regional Transit Board are approximately $300,000 for its bus services. In addition
the sewer rates are excessive in comparison to other communities in the area.
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Councilmember Stover felt there was a conflict in requesting affordable housing yet taking dollars
out of the pocket of the persons seeking this housing because of the lack of public transportation
and higher sewer charges in the Shorewood area.
Mr. Caswell stated the Metropolitan Council will look to see what barriers exist which would
prevent affordable housing. He stated this is an issue which he will bring back to the attention of
the Metropolitan Council for their consideration.
Mayor Bean recessed the meeting at 9:29 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 9:36 p.m.
Councilmember Stover noted the resolution refers to 60 units of affordable senior housing. She
stated she was not aware there was a particular number to pursue. Mayor Bean explained this is a
ballpark number from the Comprehensive Plan. Councilmember Stover clarified these units do not
have to be in one location.
Councilmember Stover also noted a previous survey indicated seniors do not want apartments.
She acknowledged the resolution states the emphasis to be placed on step down housing, however,
she stated she does not feel Shorewood will ever pursue senior apartments.
Mayor Bean noted the first priority was to create additional opportunities for step down housing
and the second priority would be relative to assisted living. Mayor Bean felt this may be an
opportunity to work with other cities and that this objective may not be limited to the Shorewood
city limits. He suggested perhaps a building could be constructed in the south shore area with the
participation of other cities. Councilmember Shaw suggested changing the language to read,
"develop regional senior housing."
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Administrator Hurm suggested the Council may want to consider changing the resolution language
to state "develop a senior housing program for Shorewood and the South Lake Minnetonka area
which includes allowing seniors to stay" and then providing a range of housing.
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Councilmember Benson commented he would prefer to leave the reference to apartments in. He
gave examples of certain situations in which an apartment building could fit in, but he felt to
exclude apartment buildings would limit opportunities for seniors. Councilmember McCarty was
in agreement with leaving the reference to apartments in the resolution.
Councilmember Benson pointed out the most significant problem to be high land costs. He stated
the only way to bring the cost down and still be able to complete a project would possibly be to
stack the units.
Councilmember Shaw commented on a senior apartment building in Hutchinson and stated a wide
range of definitions can be used when speaking of senior housing. Councilmember Stover did not
feel senior apartments would happen, however, she felt the option could remain in the resolution.
McCarty moved, Shaw seconded adopting RESOLUTION NO. 96-104, "A
Resolution Electing to Continue Participating in the Local Housing Incentives
Account Program under the Metropolitan Livable Communities Act for Calendar
Year 1997." Motion passed 5/0.
9. CONSIDERA TION OF A MOTION APPROVING AN AGREEMENT FOR
THE GROOMING OF FREEMAN PARK AND THE LRT TRAIL
Councilmember Stover noted the agreement calls for grooming of the LRT between the city limits
of Victoria and the city limits of Excelsior which includes Tonka Bay. Hurm suggested changing
the language to read "within the city limits of Shorewood."
Mayor Bean clarified the agreement should provide for the grooming of the LRT trail within the
city limits of Shorewood as well as the grooming of the Freeman Park cross country trails.
Councilmember McCarty expressed concern with respect to keeping snowmobiles off of the trails
in Freeman Park if they are groomed and suggested the Freeman Park trail not be groomed. Hurm
noted the recommendation of the Snowmobile Task Force was to groom the trail. Snowmobile
Task Force Member Arnst was present and stated the Task Force had proposed grading the trail
using city equipment in a manner similar to a sidewalk to allow for comfortable walking. Task
Force Member Turgeon agreed the recommendation was based on using equipment from the Public
Works Department.
Hurm suggested speaking with members of the Task Force and bringing this issue back to the
Council for their consideration. Councilmember Stover noted grooming for pedestrians and
grooming for snowmobiles is in direct conflict.
Mayor Bean inquired if the trail should be groomed for cross country skiers. Councilmembers
McCarty and Stover did not feel this would be necessary. Mayor Bean suggested plowing the
trail. Councilmember Benson did not feel the City had the equipment to accomplish this. City
Engineer Brown confirmed this. Councilmember Benson commented the trail would need to be
groomed either for walkers or cross country skiers and that a combination of the two would not be
possible.
Mayor Bean stated his understanding there will be no grooming in Freeman Park, signage will be
used and the LRT will be brought to a flat surface. He suggested Hurm inquire of Southwest
Trails to ascertain whether these requirements can be met.
Councilmember Stover questioned the provision that Southwest Trails Association is the only
groomer of trails within the Shorewood city limits. She inquired if Public Works could groom a
trail flat, would this agreement preclude Public Works from doing that. Mayor Bean suggested
adding "the only groomer other than Public Works."
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Mayor Bean noted Administrator Hurm will obtain input from Southwest Trails with respect to
whether they can meet these expectations. This information will then be brought back before the
Council for consideration. Councilmember Stover requested a change be included to reflect "flat"
rather than "bumpy."
10. ADMINISTRATOR & STAFF REPORTS
City Engineer Brown reported a delay in filling the Minnewashta water tower due to completion of
the installation of pressure reducing valves. He explained 15 homes have either declined or
neglected installation of the valves. Brown explained letters have been sent and telephone calls
have been made. The City is continuing to pursue options, the next being for staff to go door to
door as well as using certified mail.
Councilmembers Stover and McCarty noted some residents who have installed the valves are
experiencing reduced pressure due to the fact the tower has not been filled. Brown explained the
delay is to ensure every step is taken to avoid damage to homes. He stated he anticipates once the
tower is on line, a letter will be sent out. If pressure problems persist, the City will go out and
adjust the valves. The City has adjusted valves where the pressure was severely reduced.
With respect to the Senior Center, the contractor has been proceeding very slowly. The contractor
will be placing rock base in the parking area and may perhaps use temporary pavement at the
canopy area for safe passage from vehicles to the entrance of the building. Also work will be
completed to make the area more presentable.
Mayor Bean asked about the cost of the blacktop and Brown stated this should be the expense of
the contractor for his failure to perform. Hurm noted there is a benefit in that there will be more
rock base, however, there will be gravel rather than asphalt until approximately May.
11. MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Mayor Bean discussed potential meeting dates with the Council. (Councilmember McCarty left the
meeting at 10:34 p.m.) It was agreed to hold a Work Study Session on Monday, November 18,
1996, at 7:30 p.m. In addition, the regular City Council meeting will be held on Monday,
November 25, 1996, at 7:30 p.m. A public hearing with respect to snowmobile use was
scheduled for Tuesday, November 26, 1996, at 7:30 p.m. Possibly an alternate location will be
selected.
12. ADJOURNMENT
Shaw moved, Benson seconded to adjourn the meeting at 10:44 p.m. subject to
the approval of claims.
RESPECTFULL Y SUBMITTED,
Cheryl Wallat, Recording Secretary
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