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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 10, 1997
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor Dahlberg called the meeting to order at 7:33 p.m.
A.
Roll Call
Present:
Mayor Dahlberg; Councilmembers McCarty, O'Neill and Garfunkel; Administrator
Hurm; City Attorney John Dean; Planning Director Brad Nielsen; Engineer Larry
Brown.
Absent:
Councilmember Stover.
B.
Review Agenda
It was noted Agenda Item No.6 has been postponed.
The agenda was accepted as presented for March 10, 1997.
2 . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A.
City Council Work Session Minutes - February 19, 1997
The City Council Work Session Minutes for February 19, 1997, were approved as submitted.
B. City Council Work Session Minutes - February 20, 1997
The City Council Work Session Minutes for February 20, 1997, were approved as submitted.
C. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes - February 24, 1997
The City Council Regular Meeting Minutes for February 24, 1997, were approved as amended on
Page 3, Paragraph 4, Sentence 1, change "opposed" to "recommended;" Page 5, Item 11,
Paragraph 1, change "checks" to "the list of checks."
D. City Council Executive Session Minutes - February 24, 1997
The City Council Executive Session Minutes for February 24, 1997, were approved as submitted.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Dahlberg read the Consent Agenda for March 10, 1997.
Garfunkel moved, McCarty seconded to approve the Motions on the Consent
Agenda and to adopt the Resolutions therein:
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A.
A Motion to Adopt a Job Description for a Communications
Technician and Authorizing the Hiring of Connie Bastyr as Part-time
Person for this Position
B . A Motion to Approve an Extension for the Filing of the Final Plat of
Smithtown Woods
Applicant:
Location:
Clint Carlson
25895/25865 Smithtown Road
C. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 97-15, "A Resolution
Approving a Conditional Use Permit for an Accessory Space Over
1,200 Square Feet"
Applicant:
Location:
Mitch Jones
24245 Wood Drive
D. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 97-16, "A Resolution
Making an Appointment of Bob Rascop as Shorewood's
Representative to the Lake Minnetonka Conservation District"
Motion passed 4/0.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Ed Bergslien, 24785 Smithtown Road, inquired as to the anticipated opening of the Senior Center.
Administrator Hurm explained the concrete and asphalt work remains to be completed. He felt it
would be late Mayor the fIrst of June when the facility would be completed.
Engineer Brown commented in fairness to the contractor, that will be dependent on weather
conditions. Provided there is good weather, the contractor is subject to substantial penalties if the
dates are not met.
5 . PARKS - Report by Representative
A. Report on February 25, 1997, Park Commission Meeting.
In the absence of Commissioner Sandy Trettel, Councilmember McCarty reported on the matters
considered and actions taken at the February 25, 1997, meeting ofthe Park Commission (as
detailed in the minutes of that meeting).
B . A Motion Authorizing the Park Commission to Accept Proposals for
Concessions in Freeman Park
Mayor Dahlberg was pleased with the requirement of a business plan which will include a market
study.
McCarty moved, Garfunkel seconded authorizing the Park Commission to accept
proposals for Concessions in Freeman Park. Motion passed 4/0.
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6. PLANNING - Report by Representative
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In the absence of Chair Pisula, Planning Director Nielsen reported on the matters considered and
actions taken at the March 4, 1997, meeting of the Planning Commission (as detailed in the
minutes of that meeting).
A Motion to Adopt a Resolution Approving the Final Plan for Water's Edge
P.U.D.
Applicant:
Location:
William Blegens
20295 Manor Road
This agenda item was postponed.
7. PRESENTATION BY SOUTH TONKA SNOWMOBILE CLUB - DANA
GEORGE AND ERIC JACOBSON, REGARDING MULTI-USE OF THE
LRT TRAIL
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Eric Jacobson, President of the South Tonka Snowmobile Club, appeared to address the Council.
He explained the club has worked with the City in previous years with respect to signage on the
trail. He noted when the trail was taken out of grant-in-aide, those signs were removed and
replaced with City signs. Mr. Jacobson explained snowmobilers are aware of the grant-in-aide
requirements relative to speed and trail access. In addition, he explained the club groomed and
maintained the trails through Southwest Trails of which the Tonka Snowmobile Club is a member.
He noted the groomed trails were available for use by everyone.
Mr. Jacobson explained the Snow Patrol is a presence on the LRT, maintaining control, passing on
information and keeping people aware of the residential area. He further explained the trail is
utilized as a means to arrive at a destination.
With respect to land owner complaints, Mr. Jacobson commented the club has worked with
Shorewood through the Snow Patrol, the Greenwood area and Tonka Bay relative to snowmobile
trespass. Signs and hay bales were placed as a remedy to this problem.
Mr. Jacobson noted the key issue relative to the trail concerns safety. He was in favor of a split
trail which would separate pedestrians and snowmobilers. He feels the Shorewood portion of the
trail is the safest 2.5 miles of trail in the State given the speed limits on the trail and the level of
enforcement. Mr. Jacobson noted there is an excellent safety record on the trail at this point.
Mr. Jacobson felt better signage is necessary on the trail. He noted the speed limit on the trail
system in Victoria to be 50 mph and when entering the Shorewood portion of the trail, the speed
limit drops to 20 mph which is poorly marked. He felt this creates a speed trap situation. Mr.
Jacobson felt additional signs relative to speed limits and curfew limitations are necessary due to
nonresidents who utilize the trail and are unfamiliar with local codes. He stated he is also in favor
of an enforced curfew.
Mr. Jacobson suggested the Task Force members hold an annual review of the activity on the trail.
He explained the large majority of snowmobile related accidents are with automobiles and he felt it
would be safer to keep snowmobiles on the trail which is controlled with slow speeds and limits
interference with roads and other wheeled vehicles.
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Mr. Jacobson thanked the Council for the continued multi-use of the trail and expressed his wish
that this type of use continue.
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With respect to enforcement, he felt curfew and speed limit to be the major issues. The club would
be in favor of more obvious signage as well as a split trail system. Mr. Jacobson remarked there
are programs available with which to build a split trail. He felt two trails could be accommodated
with very few problems.
Councilmember O'Neill asked if this would affect the buffer area which is presently existing. Mr.
Jacobson felt this would be dependent on the separation between the two trails. Intersection areas
would typically funnel down to provide snowmobiles with the same grade as the road. In
addition, pedestrians will need the visibility.
Dana George, 25295 Smithtown Road, addressed the Council and explained he was a member of
the Snowmobile Task Force. He noted recommendations had been made to the Council and
among them was the recommendation to allow snowmobiling to remain in Shorewood. He noted
another recommendation was for a split trail.
Mr. George noted a 33 percent return on the survey which had been conducted. The west side of
the city was in favor of continued multi-use. The east side of the city stated they do not utilize the
trail in the wintertime. Mr. George stated he uses the trail for many different uses and felt all facets
of recreation should remain in Shorewood. He felt it was evident from the survey the residents of
Shorewood want to retain a multi-use trail.
Mr. George also stated the trail is used by snowmobilers as a route to leave the city for other
destinations. He felt consideration should be given to the creation of a side trail system.
Mr. George remarked there are a number of statistics from the police department. He noted 99
household complaints were received. Forty-three of the complaints were from four households.
The actual 911 report shows 74 percent of the calls were from those households.
Mayor Dahlberg inquired when the Snowmobile Task Force was in session. Former Snowmobile
Task Force Co-chair Kolstad explained the Task Force was in existence from September 1995 to
June 1996 with a report submitted to the Council in July 1996.
Councilmember O'Neill inquired whether investigation had been made into possible funding which
would be available for a side trail and if any designs have been considered. Ms. Kolstad explained
there had been no actual study as to what the cost might be in creating a side trail. Mr. Jacobson
again pointed out there are resources and federal funds available to assist with this type of project.
Mr. George stated the South Tonka Snowmobile Club would be more than willing to investigate
this possibility. He felt the sport to be safer than it has been in the past given the number of miles
of trails in Minnesota versus the number of miles traveled by snowmobilers. He asked the Council
to consider this matter without emotion, but rather consider the preference of the community. He
suggested once statistics for the season are fmalized that this matter be addressed in an open and
objective fashion.
Mayor Dahlberg noted his understanding from reviewing the Snowmobile Task Force report that
noise and property damage were not regarded as substantial problems, however, everyone agreed
safety was the major concern. Ms. Kolstad stated based on the evaluation of the data available to
the Task Force, it was not felt noise was a major concern. With respect to property damage
complaints for 12 months prior, only one was caused by a snowmobiler and was not a true
property damage issue.
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Woody Love, 5460 Teal Circle, clarified that on many points along the trail, there is a 50-foot
easement. He clarified the Minneapolis Park Board originated the tandem trail idea. He explained
the basis upon which that type of trail system was created. Mr. Love noted there are no motorized
portions of the tandem trail system in Minneapolis. With this trail system, there is an increased
hard surface resulting in erosion problems, soil compaction and water quality degradation. He
commented with the expanded trails there is an environmental price being paid.
Kathy Peterson, 23660 Gillette Curve, stated safety is the important issue to be considered and
offered to help in any way possible to make the multi-use of the trail successful.
Warren Peterson, 23660 Gillette Curve, commented he moved to a rural area to be able to enjoy the
many recreational activities available. He noted he was a member of the Task Force and would like
the Task Force to continue. He requested any review which is done by the co-chairs also include
the other task force members to allow for their input. He feels most snowmobilers are riding in a
slow and safe manner and wants everyone to work to keep the community the way it is.
Diane George, 25295 Smithtown Road, felt closing the trail would be a significant step back with
respect to safety. She encouraged snowmobile safety classes within the community to create a
safety awareness.
Dan Puzak, 23830 Smithtown Road, noted he started with city government because of
snowmobiling. He felt it was important to patrol and bear the burden of people who share the
sport but are violating rules. Work was done with the Park Commission, City Council and the
Police Department to accomplish this. Mr. Puzak provided a flyer which is currently being
distributed by the Snow Patrol to riders on the trail.
Mr. Puzak felt splitting the trail to be the best recommendation. He noted the signs on the trail are
not large enough or clear enough. He noted the speed limit numbers are imbedded in a sign
containing a paragraph relative to speed.
Mr. Puzak commented when the snowmobilers gave up their exclusive right to use the trail in the
wintertime, they lost the grant-in-aide funds which were available. He stated the trail is groomed at
the expense of the snowmobilers and provides the opportunity for residents to enjoy other activities
on the trail.
Mr. Puzak expressed his distrust of some members of the city government. He related his
understanding a decision has been made declaring Timber Lane is not an access site. Mr. Puzak
felt this site to be an appropriate access.
Councilmember O'Neill stated the grade and the road were problems with the Timber Lane access.
Mr. Puzak stated the grade had been addressed with the moving of snow from Freeman Park to the
Timber Lane access and he did not feel this to be an issue. Councilmember O'Neill stated the
Planning Commission had been charged with addressing fire lanes as possible access points to the
lake and he noted that Timber Lane is not a fire lane.
Mr. Puzak felt the issue was being reviewed prematurely and it was his understanding it would be
reviewed at the end of the snowmobiling season. Mr. Puzak expressed his belief the trails are
safe. He stated there were 32 deaths in 1972 and approximately one-fifth as many trails and fewer
snowmobiles. In this year, there were 28 deaths with many more snowmobiles riding
substantially more miles. Of these deaths 14 were on the roadway, 11 were on the lakes and 8
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Mayor Dahlberg inquired how many of the deaths were alcohol related and Mr. Puzak noted almost
all of them were alcohol related. He offered to provide information on each of the deaths to the
Council.
Councilmember O'Neill pointed out the Council had decided to address this issue in spring.
Lorn Herman, 5645 Eureka Road, stated she lives on the trail and noted noise is a significant
problem. In observing the trail, she has witnessed snowmobiles traveling excessive speeds as well
as snowmobile acrobatics at high speeds. She did not feel a residential area to be the time or the
place for snowmobiling. Ms. Herman inquired whether horses would be allowed on a multi-use
trail. She commented on the amount of money the City has spent on this issue and felt the money
could have been better used in developing a tandem trail system.
Jim Latterner, 25235 Smithtown Road, feels a minority of people are attempting to control the
situation. Mr. Latterner stated safety is not an issue relative to the actual machine, but rather the
person operating the machine. He stated he would like the Preservation Team to listen to the
people and do as the people ask.
8. CONSIDERA TION OF A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION
APPROVING THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT SCHEDULE
Mayor Dahlberg clarified there will be discussion within the next month to determine whether the
trucks necessary for snow removal should be purchased or whether a leasing program would be
more cost effective.
Mayor Dahlberg inquired as to the dollar amount being considered in this matter. Engineer Brown
. stated without considering trade-ins, the cost would be approximately $70,000 for one truck.
McCarty moved, O'Neill seconded adopting RESOLUTION NO. 97-17, "A
Resolution Approving a Revised Equipment Schedule." Motion passed 4/0.
9. CONSIDERA TION OF A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION MAKING
AMENDMENTS TO THE 1997 BUDGET AND AUTHORIZING THE
PURCHASE OF PRODUCTION EQUIPMENT
O'Neill moved, Garfunkel seconded adopting RESOLUTION NO. 97-18, "A
Resolution Making Amendments to the 1997 Budget and Authorizing the Purchase
of Production Equipment." Motion passed 4/0.
10. ADMINISTRATOR & STAFF REPORTS
Administrator Hurm stated the third version of the Communication Plan will be presented to the
Council for their review. He noted the Council ':Vill need to consider at the beginning of the month
what type of open forums they would like to hold in the following month to allow for notice in the
monthly newsletter. Attorney Dean stated the setting of a special meeting would require the action
of two councilmembers.
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Staff Report on Development Monitoring
Planning Director Nielsen stated a weekly inspection was completed of Watten Ponds and gave an
update of the progress on this project. The developer is considering demolishing the existing
Watten house. Nielsen did not feel there was anything in the Development Agreement which
would prevent this from being accomplished. He noted the terms of the development agreement
would apply to this project as well.
Councilmember O'Neill stated he would like to see further information relative to the footprint
which is being considered as well as tree preservation. Mayor Dahlberg noted his agreement.
City Engineer Brown reported on the Shady Island bridge and noted the Watershed District has
tabled the plan for the bridge, noting they have identified 144 square yards of wetland impact. It
was stated the project will have the opportunity to proceed once the City identifies an area where
wetland mitigation can occur.
Mayor Dahlberg noted the bridge is being replaced with an almost exact duplication of the existing
bridge. He questioned how this would impact the wetlands. Brown explained as part of the
requirements of guard rail, there are slopes which need to be softened. As the slopes are softened,
some of the fringe areas which are considered wetland are impacted.
Mayor Dahlberg stated he would like to know what is required of the design from a legalistic view
by the State. He requested Attorney Dean research this matter. Councilmember McCarty
cautioned the Council to be careful in altering anything that has gone into the project given the fact
the bridge is substandard and OSM did not approve it. Brown pointed out this issue comes down
to technicalities with respect to good engineering judgment with regard to a vehicle leaving the
roadway and this is not an issue for the State. Many times engineers will prefer to be conservative
and in doing so, defer to State standards.
Brown noted the Watershed District is encouraging the City to move forward with the Stormwater
Management Plan and focus on areas such as Glen Road which would be a trade-off for the impact
at the Shady Island bridge. A meeting has been set for March 19th with several board members to
discuss key areas in which they would like to cooperate with Shorewood and see developed as
wetland mitigation, stormwater management, and NURP ponds. In addition, the Watershed
District has listed every city in priority and at this point, Shorewood is listed as the first priority.
Brown noted there are various agencies who will have input into the plan for the Shady Island
bridge and stated he has delayed meeting with the residents of Shady Island until such time as the
review process is completed. Mayor Dahlberg stated he would like to have an opportunity to view
the site and obtain resident input.
Administrator Hurm stated the Council is scheduled to meet with Senator Oliver and
Representatives Sykora and Workman relative to transportation issues. This meeting is scheduled
to be held on Friday, March 14, 1997 at 7:00 a.m.
11. MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilmember Garfunkel announced the birth of his son on February 27, 1997. Congratulations!
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Councilmember O'Neill remarked there is no ordinance regarding adult book stores and felt it
would be appropriate to direct staff to investigate this matter. Attorney Dean noted several
communities have developed successful ordinances relative to adult use and he felt Shorewood
could benefit from the ordinances and the studies which have been completed by these
communities. He also explained existing vendors would be subject to any regulations which are
established.
Councilmember O'Neill suggested meeting once per month with the surrounding mayors in
addition to one councilmember from each community. Mayor Dahlberg stated he would investigate
this possibility. Councilmember O'Neill stated he would like to see some sort of structure to this.
Councilmember O'Neill suggested directing the Park Commission to consider a community activity
or city-wide event. He stated he would like to see something put together for the summer of 1998.
Councilmember O'Neill suggested the Commission investigate and review what other cities are
doing in this regard. Councilmember McCarty noted the Park Commission has been assigned a
number of issues to work on and suggested the Park Foundation could possibly take on this
project. She further noted the ties the Park Foundation has to community education as well as the
various clubs in the community. Mayor Dahlberg was in favor of this idea. Councilmember
O'Neill felt it could be at the discretion of the Park Commission to obtain the involvement of the
Park Foundation.
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Mayor Dahlberg recessed the meeting at 9:33 p.m. and reconvened at 9:37 p.m.
Bill Colopoulos, Chair of the Park Commission, addressed the Council and stated the Park
Festival was discussed at the last meeting. He noted the Park Festival was held in the spring of
1995. The festival was organized by the Park Foundation at the request of the Park Commission.
There was a moderate turn out which he felt was due in part to the weather which was somewhat
cold. Chair Colopoulos suggested holding the festival later in the summer to assure warmer
weather. He suggested if Freeman Park were to be chosen for the festival, the food could be
provided by the concession area which is being established.
Chair Colopoulos noted the Park Commission has been unable to locate a volunteer to coordinate
this effort. He felt if the concession were on line, a festival of some sort could be held. Mayor
Dahlberg suggested the Park Commission determine the feasibility of a festival.
Councilmember O'Neill requested the Park Commission further investigate the side trail issue and
investigate the possibility of available programs or funding which would be available for the
construction of a side trail.
Councilmember O'Neill reported he has received a resident inquiry relative to a communication
tower which had been proposed. Nielsen noted there have been a number of inquiries relative to
the expansion of the personal communication services industry. Most of the inquiries have been
interested in utilizing the water tower, however, there was inquiry relative to the public works site
for a communication tower. The Planning Commission has recommended that the carriers be
accommodated with the two existing water towers as opposed to building free standing
communication towers.
Mayor Dahlberg reported he met with Planning Commission Chair Pisula relative to neighborhood
traditions and how this can be promoted in Shorewood.
Mayor Dahlberg also met with representatives of the Christmas Lake Neighborhood Association to
discuss their concerns relative to water quality, access and milfoil concerns.
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Attorney Dean reported the Council will be put on notice that two contractors, Ryan Construction
and Perkins, are making claims against the City for matters arising out of contracts with the City.
The bases of the claims have been analyzed. The purpose of the Executive Session is to discuss
this analysis and make recommendations on how the City should proceed on those matters.
Attorney Dean noted there are no pending cases which will be discussed.
12. ADJOURNMENT
McCarty moved, O'Neill seconded to adjourn to Executive Session at 9:54 p.m.
subject to the approval of claims. Motion passed 4/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Cheryl Wallat, Recording Secretary
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