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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
WORK SESSION MEETING
MONDAY, DECEMBER 1, 1997
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
6:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
Mayor Dahlberg called the meeting to order at 6:04 p.m.
A.
Roll Call
Present:
Mayor Dahlberg; Councilmembers O'Neill and Garfunkel; Administrator Hurm;
Planning Director Nielsen; Planning Commissioners Kolstad, Champa and Turgeon
(arrived at 6:22 p.m.)
Absent:
Councilmembers Stover and McCarty
B . Review Agenda
The agenda was approved as presented.
2. DISCUSSION ON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
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Item No.3 - Councilmember O'Neill suggested removal of the last sentence which refers to the
development of smaller lot sizes. Mayor Dahlberg suggested Item No. 3 be eliminated entirely
since it become irrelevant.
Item No.4 - Mayor Dahlberg felt the single goal be to keep the affordable housing which exists
and encourage builders to construct smaller homes on the larger lots. He did not feel it should be a
specific goal of the City to maintain a variety of housing. Any housing which complies with the
zoning map would be acceptable.
Nielsen will rewrite Item Nos. 3 and 4 to reflect the Council's goal of preserving the current
housing which exists and adherence to the existing zoning map.
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Mayor Dahlberg felt Item No. 11 should be deleted entirely given the fact there will be a
moratorium on senior housing at which time the ordinance relative to senior housing will be
rewritten. Councilmember O'Neill expressed his agreement.
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Paragraph 2 - Mayor Dahlberg suggested defining the coordination of the development of small
parcels which are developed at different times.
Paragraph 4 - It was the consensus of the Council to strike this paragraph noting that in the event
of a discrepancy, the zoning map will control.
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Paragraph 6 - The consensus of the Council was to leave the last sentence as it currently reads.
Mayor Dahlberg suggesting deleting the sentence relative to "the lack of affordable housing options
presents an area of concern." He stated he would like to revisit this issue at some point in the
future.
Mayor Dahlberg felt the entire section relative to senior housing should be deleted and the Council
revisit this issue at some point in the future and rewrite this section of the Plan. Nielsen pointed
out the purpose of the moratorium which has been proposed is to provide an opportunity for the
Council to study the issue. Mayor Dahlberg expressed concern relative to protecting a specific
class of citizens by labeling housing as being specific to seniors.
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Item No.2 - Councilmember O'Neill asked for an explanation of this provision. Nielsen stated
this provision relates to physical barriers which separate neighborhoods, reducing the impact of
those such as a trail system which may connect various neighborhoods. Mayor Dahlberg felt this
item should be restated since the current language is extremely abstract.
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Item No.9 - Mayor Dahlberg felt this could be stricken since the Council will rely on the existing
zoning map.
Item No. 13 - Councilmember O'Neill stated he is not in favor of cluster homes. The consensus
of the Council was to delete the reference to cluster homes.
Councilmember Garfunkel felt the Council should provide a vision to the Planning Commission
and then refer the Comprehensive Plan to the Planning Commission for their review and
recommendations.
Item No. 16 - Councilmember Garfunkel suggested deleting this provision. Councilmember
O'Neill was in agreement as was Mayor Dahlberg.
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The consensus was to rewrite this section, deleting the reference to cluster housing. Nielsen
suggested there also needs to be some clarification as to where PUD will be utilized and under
what provisions. Councilmember O'Neill clarified it had been the agreement of the Council to
delete "cluster" from the Comprehensive Plan as a goal of the City.
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Last Paragraph - Nielsen noted this paragraph can be deleted since there are no plans to change
density from low density to low to medium density.
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With respect to a transitional area between lower density residential uses and high density uses
such as commercial, the goal is to locate the greater density of population nearer to the activity
center and major traffic area.
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Councilmember O'Neill inquired whether the City has inventoried the existing housing stock.
Nielsen explained that is being addressed by staff. Mayor Dahlberg felt this section should be
deleted and the Council will address it at some point in the future.
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Councilmember O'Neill inquired whether Item No.2 had been done. Nielsen explained parks are
the primary focus for any of the neighborhoods. With respect to Item No.5, Councilmember
O'Neill suggested striking the reference to planned unit development.
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Item No. 16 - Mayor Dahlberg did not feel this to be a realistic goal. Councilmember O'Neill
noted the Planning Commission addressed this issue and there were no locations identified.
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Item No.2 - It was the consensus of the Council to strike this provision.
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Item No. 11 - Councilmember O'Neill felt this should be addressed on a case by case basis since
the lay of the land would affect the decision to utilize curbs and gutters. Councilmember Garfunkel
noted his agreement. Mayor Dahlberg suggested new developments should consider curb and
gutter, however, the City will not mandate it. Nielsen noted new developments are currently
required to construct curb and gutter. Nielsen felt this issue could best be addressed by Engineer
Brown. Mayor Dahlberg inquired whether the City wants to impose architectural controls on a
development.
Councilmember O'Neill suggested adding the provision that other drainage solutions will be
considered when more economical and practical. Mayor Dahlberg commented if it is an aesthetic
issue, he would not want to mandate the use of curb and gutter, nor would he want their use to be
prohibited. In the event of an ecological, environmental or stormwater management issue, there
could be circumstances under which not having curb and gutter might be mandated on a case by
case basis. This could also apply in the alternative where curb and gutter might be mandated for
_ similar reasons. Nielsen suggested rewriting the provision to provide that new development shall
have curb and gutter where necessary to accommodate drainage.
Item No. 14 - The consensus of the Council was to strike the reference to cluster and PUD.
Item No. 15 - Mayor Dahlberg felt this to be an appropriate issue for a referendum. Hurm
commented Hamline University completed a study relative to garbage collection in Shorewood.
This information can be provided at a work session for Council review. Hurm also stated if the
City were organized similar to Excelsior or Tonka Bay, the taxpayers would save approximately
$150,000 to $200,000 per year in garbage collection alone. This does not factor in the damage
which is done to the streets. Mayor Dahlberg felt the residents should be informed of their
choices.
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Item No.2 - Councilmember O'Neill addressed the issue of situations where snowplows must
work around boats and other items which are parked in the street. Nielsen felt this provision
applies to parking lot situations which should periodically be reviewed. Councilmember Garfunkel
suggested some type of ban relative to on-street parking.
Mass Transit - Item No.4 - The consensus of the Council was to strike this provision.
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Item No.3 - Councilmember O'Neill inquired relative to the provision recommending the length
of cul-de-sac streets be reduced from 2,000 feet. Nielsen explained a cul-de-sac of 2,000 feet
would be considered hazardous. It is recommended this provision be reduced to 1,000 feet.
3. ADJOURNMENT
O'Neill moved, Garfunkel seconded to adjourn the City Council Work Session
Meeting at 7 :30 p.m. Motion passed 3/0.
RESPECTFULL Y SUBMITTED,
Cheryl Wallat, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
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S C. HURM, CITY ADMINISTRATOR