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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
MONDA Y, AUGUST 10, 1998
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor Dahlberg called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. He announced the Council will adjourn to
an Executive Session at the conclusion of the regular meeting and to a work session meeting at the
conclusion of the Executive Session.
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Roll Call
Present:
Mayor Dahlberg; Councilmembers Stover, O'Neill, Garfunkel and Champa;
Administrator Hurm; City Attorney John Dean; Planning Director Brad Nielsen;
Engineer Larry Brown; Finance Director AI Rolek
Review Agenda
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Mayor Dahlberg read the Agenda for August 10, 1998. The agenda was approved as submitted.
2 . APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A . City Council Regular Meeting Minutes - July 27, 1998
Garfunkel moved, Stover seconded approving the City Council Regular Meeting
Minutes for July 27, 1998, as amended on Page 6, Item No.7, Paragraph 2,
Sentence 2, change "200" to "20." Page 7, Paragraph 5, Sentence 2, change to
read, "even though it may not be totally effective . . ." Motion passed 5/0.
B. City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes - July 27, 1998
The City Council Work Session Minutes for July 27, 1998, were approved as
submitted.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
Stover moved, Garfunkel seconded approving the items on the Consent Agenda and Adopting the
Resolutions therein:
A. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 98-075, "A Resolution
Making Election Judge Appointments for Primary and General
Elections"
B. A Motion Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 98-076, "A Resolution
Accepting Bids and A warding Contract for 1998 Bituminous Overlay
Project 98-03"
Motion passed 5/0.
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MA TTERS FROM THE FLOOR - None
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5.
PARKS - Report by Representative
A Motion Accepting the Proposed Tournament Policy
Councilmember Stover inquired whether the indemnity and hold harmless clause is included in this
policy. Attorney Dean explained whether there is an indemnity provision or not, in the case of a
lawsuit, there is a fair likelihood the City would be served. Because the organizations are required
to have insurance, the insurance would provide defense and protect the City.
Administrator Hurm pointed out this policy does not cover the normal season end tournaments, but
is for special tournaments.
Dahlberg moved, O'Neill seconded accepting the Tournament Policy. Motion passed 5/0.
6. PLANNING - Report by Representative
Planning Commissioner Collins reported on the matters considered and actions taken at the August
4,1998 meeting of the Planning Commission (as detailed in the minutes of that meeting).
7. CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION REGARDING REQUEST FOR STOP
SIGN AT INTERSECTION OF MAPLE LEAF CIRCLE AND SHOREWOOD
OAKS DRIVE
Councilmember Garfunkel noted the stop sign was removed and placed at another location. He
inquired whether the second location is actually a preferable location. He pointed out there have
been many changes to the neighborhood since the sign was moved.
Councilmember Stover commented the neighborhood should be reviewed as it exists today, almost
fully developed, to determine the appropriate placement of stop signs. She noted there are
probably stop signs in the area which should not be moved.
Engineer Brown reviewed the traffic study which was performed on Shorewood Oaks Drive and
reported the 85th percentile, which is used by the State to establish speed limits, was 24 miles per
hour. The average number of vehicles per day were 290 and the total vehicles over a four day
period were 1,158. There were 11 vehicles traveling in excess of the speed limit in this area.
Heather Garibaldi, 6080 Burlwood Court, noted a number of the surrounding neighborhoods have
speed limits of 20 and 25 miles per hour and inquired why the speed limit in the Shorewood Oaks
Drive area is 30 miles per hour.
Brown explained the Commissioner of Transportation is responsible for setting local speed limits
and, if so inclined, the Council could request a speed limit less than 30 miles per hour. To do this
a resolution would need to be submitted requesting the Commissioner of Transportation conduct a
speed study. He commented the Commissioner has the option of either accepting the data
compiled by the City or conducting a new study.
Attorney Dean explained once a request is received from the City, the Commissioner of
Transportation will complete its own traffic study and set a speed limit based on the outcome of
that study.
Councilmember Garfunkel noted it is possible the Commissioner would use the data collected by
the City through the recent traffic study.
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Mayor Dahlberg commented the issue is actually the five or six cars which are violating the speed
limit in this area.
Jim Gemmill, 26245 Oak Leaf Trail, commented when the sign was moved, it diverted traffic
equally to both sides of the neighborhood. He expressed his belief if the stop sign is relocated to
Maple Leaf Circle, all of the traffic will be diverted to Oak Leaf Trail. Mr. Gemmill felt if the
entrance to Highway 7 were closed, traffic would be greatly reduced.
Councilmember O'Neill commented if this entrance were to be closed, it would have a significant
impact on Strawberry Lane.
Mayor Dahlberg questioned whether the issue is the amount of traffic or the speed of traffic.
Shelley Fletcher, 26130 Oak Leaf Trail, stated it is not so much the amount of traffic as it is the
speed of the traffic. She felt the stop sign on Burlwood to be a good location. Ms. Fletcher did
comment on an excessive amount of cut through traffic in this area.
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Lisa Levine, 26325 Oak Leaf Trail, felt cars coming around the corner of Oak Leaf Trail to be a
significant issue which will be made worse by removing the stop sign from Oak Leaf Trail and
Shorewood Oaks. She noted the traffic in the area has increased greatly in the past several years.
Ms. Levine felt the amount and the speed of the traffic to be significant issues.
Councilmember Garfunkel asked if there would be a way to determine the amount of cut through
traffic in the area. Brown explained a study can be conducted in which license numbers are
recorded from each end of the development to determine what number of cars are utilizing this area
for cut through purposes.
Councilmember Garfunkel noted there are perceptions and reality and he stated it is important to
determine what the reality is. He pointed out 85 percent of the traffic in this area was traveling at
24 miles per hour or less.
Councilmember Champa pointed out the majority of traffic passes through this area between 5:00
and 6:00 p.m., presumably on their way home from work.
Ms. Garibaldi pointed out this is not a good time for a traffic study since school is not in session
and many residents are away on vacation.
Mayor Dahlberg noted the traffic situation may be a product of the growth of this area. He felt at
this point it would be important to determine the amount of cut ~hrough traffic.
Gela Kantro, 26205 Oak Leaf Trail, inquired how the cut through traffic could be reduced. Mayor
Dahlberg stated this could be an effort coordinated with the work being completed by MNDOT
relative to the Highway 7 access points.
Andrew Fletcher, 26130 Oak Leaf Trail, stated he would be open to exploring ways in which to
reduce the speed of traffic on Oak Leaf Trail. He noted without sidewalks in the area, the children
walk and rollerblade in the streets. He felt the speed of 24 miles per hour is too fast for young
children who are in the area.
Councilmember Stover asked whether the residents are desiring sidewalks. The Fletchers stated
they are very much in favor of sidewalks.
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Ms. Levine inquired what it would take to get sidewalks. She stated over the past four years, she
has discussed this with the neighbors and felt it would be useful to have one sidewalk which
would circle through the area.
Mayor Dahlberg asked the residents to carefully consider mixing bicycles and rollerbladers with
walkers on a narrow sidewalk. If utilizing a wide sidewalk, he suggested checking with the
neighbors to determine their willingness to have a sidewalk which would involve the front of their
property.
Ms. Kantro noted there are portable speed bumps and asked whether these would be an option.
Mayor Dahlberg noted speed bumps are a difficult option given the legalities involved.
Mayor Dahlberg inquired whether there would be support on the Council to determine the amount
of cut through traffic in this area.
Councilmember ONeill noted the traffic cannot be diverted to a service road and it will be
necessary to complete a detailed study to determine the amount of cut through traffic in this area.
Councilmember Stover pointed out some of this traffic will be local cut through traffic.
Brown felt an origin destination study would be the best way to determine the amount of cut
through traffic in this development. He pointed out the beginning of Strawberry Lane construction
would impact this study and he suggested waiting until Strawberry Lane is completed and school is
in session to obtain an accurate study.
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Councilmember Champa noted the residents in attendance are in favor of the stop sign remaining in
its present location.
Councilmember O'Neill suggested directing staff to make a request of the Commissioner of
Transportation to reduce the speed limit on Shorewood Oaks Drive to 25 miles per hour.
Councilmember Stover felt this request should wait until the speed study on Oak Leaf Trail has
been completed and then make application for reduced speed limits on both streets at one time.
Dorthy Croskey, 26265 Oak Leaf Trail, pointed out the existing stop sign is also a bus stop for the
school children.
Councilmember Stover felt in comparing the traffic on Shorewood Oaks Drive and Oak Leaf Trail,
the circumstances should be as similar as possible to obtain the most accurate results. She
suggested the existing signs remain in place until all information gathering has been completed.
Councilmember Champa suggested in trying to lower the speed limit, signs could be posted
indicating 25 miles per hour even though this speed limit would not be enforceable. He felt this
would slow down the traffic in the area.
Councilmember Stover noted her belief the Commissioner of Transportation will conduct a
separate study prior to establishing a speed limit for these areas. She pointed out if the State
establishes a speed limit less than 30 miles per hour, this would be a defensible limit.
Ms. Levine questioned who would pay for the cost of a sidewalk. Hurm stated this would be an
assessment situation. Attorney Dean commented people on both sides of the area would probably
be assessed. The area away from the cul-de-sac and on the main street probably would not be
. assessed unless it were determined they would receive a special benefit from the sidewalk.
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Ms. Levine inquired relative to the possible costs involved. Mayor Dahlberg stated if a consensus
. can be developed relative to a rough plan, staff could then estimate the costs involved.
It was the consensus of the Council to complete an origin destination study once the construction
on Strawberry Lane has been completed and school is in session. Staff will return with a
resolution relative to the speed limits on Shorewood Oaks Drive and Oak Leaf Trail for the
Council's consideration.
Mayor Dahlberg commented when investigating the sidewalk issue in the neighborhood it will be
important to ask the individual households whether they are agreeable to sidewalks in their own
front yard.
Ms. Fletcher inquired whether the sidewalk issue would require a 100 percent petition.
Councilmember O'Neill stated he would like as much of a majority as possible. Consideration
would then have to be given relative to how much the sidewalk would be imposing on an
individual's property rights, however, he would not be inclined to let two or three people hold up
the project.
Stover moved, Champa seconded to not move any stop signs in the Shore wood
Oaks Development until the studies have been completed and until notice has been
given to the list of people who have been receiving notice relative to this issue.
Councilmember O'Neill commented relative to the origin destination study that there is no viable
solution to the cut through situation without moving the traffic to another roadway.
Vote on motion: Motion passed 4/0. (Mayor Dahlberg abstained.)
. Mayor Dahlberg commented he did not like the way it was done the first time.
8. ACTION REGARDING STRUCTURE AT 5615 EUREKA ROAD
A . Consideration of an Order Finding Hazardous Conditions
Nielsen reported the Hermans are willing to consent to a condemnation which will expedite the
process and eliminate the need to amend the Code. The Hermans have offered to allow the Fire
Department to utilize this structure for a test burn.
Dahlberg moved, Stover seconded approving the Order finding Hazardous
Conditions at 5615 Eureka Road. Motion passed 5/0.
B . Consideration of an Order to Secure a Hazardous Building
Dahlberg moved, Champa seconded approving the Order to Secure a Hazardous
Building. Motion passed 5/0.
9. CONSIDERA TION OF A MOTION REGARDING THE 1999 SOUTH LAKE
MINNETONKA PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT BUDGET
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Chief Rick Young was in attendance along with Brian Litsey. Chief Young reported this budget
has been reviewed with the various city administrative staffs and the recommendations of the
Coordinating Committee have been incorporated into the budget.
Chief Young noted the City of Greenwood has approved the budget and he will be meeting with
Tonka Bay and Excelsior to obtain their approval as well.
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Administrator Hurm explained he is hopeful the City will obtain an extension on a Federal Grant
which would reduce the City's cost by $25,000.
Councilmember Stover noted the budget did not include a wage increase. Chief Young explained
while no increase was included, there will be funds available.
Stover moved, O'Neill seconded approving the 1999 South Lake Minnetonka
Public Safety Department Budget. Motion passed 5/0.
10. CONSIDERATION OF A MOTION APPROVING A CONTRACT FOR
TELECOMMUNICA TIONS CONSULTANT
O'Neill moved, Garfunkel seconded approving a contract for a
Telecommunications Consultant subject to the right to rescind the approval
following the meeting with the individual. Motion passed 5/0.
11. CONSIDERA TION OF MOTIONS REGARDING FINANCE DEPARTMENT
IMPROVEMENTS
A . A Motion Accepting Quote for Financial Software Improvements and
Authorization to Purchase
Councilmember Garfunkel commented the financial software improvements were budgeted in the
Capital Improvement Program.
Garfunkel moved, Champa seconded accepting the quote for financial software
improvements and authorizing purchase. Motion passed 5/0.
B . A Motion Accepting Quote for Hardware and Authorization to
Purchase
Councilmember O'Neill inquired with respect to the reference in the Preliminary Investment
Summary indicating the price does not include travel, lodging and meal expense. Finance Director
Rolek explained the equipment is not being purchased from this particular vender. In addition, that
particular reference pertains to the training portion of the estimate rather than the hardware and
software installation.
Garfunkel moved, O'Neill seconded accepting the quotes for hardware and
authorizing purchase. Motion passed 5/0.
C . A Motion Accepting Quote for Installation and Configuration 0 f
Hardware from On-Line Matrix
Champa moved, Stover seconded accepting quote for installation and
configuration of hardware from On-Line Matrix. Motion passed 5/0.
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12. ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF REPORTS
A.
Staff Report on Development Monitoring
Planning Director Nielsen reported there has been very little aCtiVIty on the Watten Ponds
Development site. The developer is in the process of removing downed trees in order to restore the
fencing. A complaint was received that the trees were being hauled out and placed on the vacant
area on Lots 1 and 2 and then being hauled away at a later time. It is expected the fencing situation
will be corrected this week.
Nielsen reported quotes are still being obtained relative to work on the Smithtown Meadows
Development. The City has collected on the developer's Letter of Credit and he has been instructed
that funds will be released for any work the developer completes prior to the City.
B . Report on Shoreline Messages
Hurm reported a message was received in July expressing concern for people using the trail in the
Eureka Road area and vehicles traveling on Eureka Road not always stopping and giving the
walker or biker the right of way. It was suggested something be included in the newsletter relative
to this issue.
Hurm also mentioned it may be appropriate to speak with the County Assessor's Office and he
suggested meeting with them on either August 18, 19 or 20th.
Mayor Dahlberg and Councilmember Champa stated they would prefer to meet in the morning. It
was agreed to meet with representatives of the Assessor's Office on August 18, 1998, at 8:00 a.m.
C.
Engineer's Report on Petition Received from Shady Island
Homeowners Association
Brown explained the bridge has been completed. The Shady Island Homeowners Association
would like to know when the island's roads will be resurfaced, bringing them up to the standard of
the new bridge surface and that of Enchanted Lane which leads up to the bridge.
Brown explained he will be performing a revised pavement inventory which will be shared with
the Homeowners Association. This was agreeable to Mr. Delaney, President of the Association.
13. MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL REPORTS
Councilmember Champa commented on the message which was received relative to the trail
crossing at Eureka Road and stated he has witnessed the same things, however, there have also
been instances of bicyclists coming down the trail and not stopping for the stop sign. He
suggested something be done to help this area.
Brown explained the Park Commission suggested reviewing all of the trail crossings and making
some better delineation. He explained the City has contracted with a striper to do this work once
the area has been sealcoated.
Councilmember O'Neill suggested the Council discuss the possibility of purchasing a second
snowmobile as some point. He noted this issue was raised by Chief Young and Officer Keller.
Councilmember Champa expressed his agreement and it was decided this issue will be added to a
future agenda for discussion.
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Mayor Dahlberg reported a letter was received from Arden Harrison relative to the dog ordinance
pointing out there are a number of cats in the area. This matter was referred to Administrator Hurm
and Mayor Dahlberg stated he would like to discuss whether or not policies in the ordinance apply
to cats as well as dogs.
14. ADJOURNMENT
Stover moved, Garfunkel seconded adjourning the regular meeting to Executive
Session at 9:04 p.m. subject to the approval of claims and to be followed by a
Work Session. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Cheryl Wallat, Recording Secretary
TimeSaver Off Site Secretarial, Inc.
, MAYOR
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C. HURM, CITY ADMINISTRATOR