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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 10, 2003
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor Love called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
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Roll Call
Present:
Mayor Love; Councilmembers Garfunkel, Lizee (arrived at 7:02 P.M.), Turgeon, and
Zerby; Administrator Dawson; Attorney Keane (arrived at 7:08 P.M.); Engineer Brown;
and Planning Director Nielsen
Absent:
Finance Director Burton
B.
Review Agenda
Mayor Love reviewed the Agenda. Administrator Dawson requested Item 8B, An Update on the NPDES
Phase II Project, be added to this evening's Agenda.
Turgeon moved, Zerby seconded, Approving the Agenda as amended. Motion passed 4/0.
Councilmember Lizee arrived at 7:02 P.M.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. City Council Work Session Minutes, February 24, 2003
Garfunkel moved, Turgeon seconded, Approving the City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes
of February 24, 2003, as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
B. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes, February 24, 2003
Zerby moved, Garfunkel seconded, Approving the City Council Regular Meeting Minutes of
February 24, 2003, as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
Zerby moved, Turgeon seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent Agenda and
Adopting the Resolutions Therein:
A. Approval of the Verified Claims List
B. Authorizing Expenditure of Funds for Sealcoat Rock
C. Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 03-017. "A Resolution Denying a Setback Variance
for David LaRose, 5965 Chaska Road."
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Motion passed 5/0.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Mayor Love explained matters from the floor was a time for residents to be heard on items not placed on
this evening's Agenda, and noted the direction from Council on such matters would be to have Staff
provide further consideration of the issue and report back to Council on the matter of concern at a later
date. He also requested audience participants wishing to address Council limit their comments to
approximately five minutes apiece and avoid duplication of comment.
Paul Gagner, 25650 Smithtown Road, stated he lived west of the LRT trail and had conducted a
neighborhood survey based on the article written in the February 5,2003, Sun Sailor newspaper regarding
the proposed trail project for Smithtown Road. He stated the survey had been conducted in door-to-door
fashion, and he was present this evening to share the results of that survey, and state five points of
concern with the project for further Council review. He then read the survey results and commentary into
the record for the meeting. Highlights of the survey shared included statistics that 83% of residential
property owners in the path of the trail were opposed to it, and 78% of a city-wide scientific random
sample were opposed to utilizing coercion on behalf of the trails. He requested the methodology involved
in any City research for the project be available for review. He also expressed concern for the process
followed in the proposal of the trail, the rationale for its placement on the north side of the road, as well as
concern for the trail crossing residential driveways, streets, and other potential crossing areas where
motorized vehicles and pedestrians may meet.
Attorney Keane arrived at 7:08 P.M.
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Nancy Williams, 26270 Smithtown Road, stated she had moved to her property in Shorewood specifically
because it did not have a sidewalk as she had experienced personal liability problems in the City of
Minneapolis with sidewalks. She stated she found it difficult to believe there would be no liability
assumed by the property owners for a trail crossing their property. She also stated she was not in favor of
people receiving special treatment for the trail to cross properties in this project. In conversations with
other residents in the pathway of the trail, she had learned the City was working with property owners to
make the trail compatible with what existed on properties on an individual basis, and she thought this
should be the case for all property owners. She stated she was not in favor of the trail.
Lauralee Chellen, 26710 Smithtown Road, stated the City of Shorewood provided a unique living
experience for its residents through its beauty and charm. Smithtown Road reflected those characteristics
and helped to defme the neighborhood that could not be found in other neighboring suburbs, and she had
moved to Shorewood for that reason. She stated trails were available in other parts of the City; that to add
a trail on Smithtown Road would be redundant, and they would change the neighborhood character by
adding increased vehicular traffic, speed, and additional pedestrian traffic. She also stated she thought the
addition of a trail would increase the risks for injury and accidents along the roadway. Additionally, she
noted problems existed with mailbox vandalism, and this trail would only encourage more of that
vandalism. She stated the community was unique, and she requested Council preserve that uniqueness by
not moving forward with the trail project.
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Pat Olsen, 25775 Smithtown Road, stated she lived on the south side of roadway, and had had problems
with additional water on her property since previous work on the roadway had taken place. She stated she
was concerned for additional water entering her yard as part of this project as well. She went on to state
her property also backed up to the Southwest LRT trail, and she related her experience with dogs being
off-leash on that trail. She stated she was opposed to the trail's placement as she thought it would become
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problematic for residents along the north side of Smithtown Road. Additionally, she did not understand
the rationale for the trail, as it seemed to start and end without connections to other major features.
Eric Chell en, 26710 Smithtown Road, stated he had received phone calls to his home from representatives
of the City working on the trail project indicating the trail project and his dissatisfaction with the
messages they conveyed. He also stated a second phone call had been received requesting he come to
City Hall to examine plans for the trail project. He stated he felt threatened by these phone calls, and he
questioned the need for them. He requested the Council listen to the residents opposed to the project in
this case.
Diana Eckerberg, 27260 Smithtown Road, stated she was in favor of the trail, as she had two small
children that would potentially need to walk to the elementary school. She stated she would prefer the
south side of the roadway be utilized for the trail, as there seemed to be fewer driveways and crossings on
that side. She further stated she was concerned for the crossing areas where pedestrians and motorized
vehicles could meet, and she thought the trail did provide connections, as it would bring kids safely home
from school. She also stated her husband was concerned for the roadway width, combined with the
grassy areas, and then the location of the trail, as it seemed to encroach on neighboring properties located
close to the roadway. She went on to state she concurred with the people concerned for loss of privacy
where trees had been planted and would now need to be removed as part of the project. Ms. Eckerberg
also stated if the roadway were widened, she believed it would be less safe for children to cross
Smithtown Road.
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Sig Weisser, 27680 Smithtown Road, stated he had been a Shorewood resident for thirty years, and had
had problems with water near his home since the last roadway project. He also questioned which Council
members had approved this project, and whether they lived along Smithtown Road to deal with the
impacts from this project.
Paul Gagner, questioned the proposed trail width.
Mayor Love stated thanked residents for comments heard this evening. He went on to state two main
issues appeared to be of concern. The first included a question of how the process for the project had
taken place, and secondly, he believed a review of what the impact from the trail would be on local
residents would be helpful.
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Engineer Brown stated the process followed regarding this roadway project had happened in an identical
fashion to other roadway projects. Of the affected property owners for the roadway, fourteen owners
would need to grant easements for the project to take place from the Hennepin COlmty LRT trail to
Victoria municipal border. Staff had sought addresses and phone numbers from the phone book and
utility records, and attempted to contact residents affected by the project to set up appointments to come
to City Hall to view the proposed plans designed by the City's design consultant, WSB & Associates. He
went on to explain WSB had initially provided incorrect roadway designs, further contributing to the
confusion surrounding the project. Staffhad directed WSB to redesign the project appropriately to reflect
the construction of the trail taking place on the north side of the road with eleven-foot traffic lanes, two
feet of shoulder on the north side of the traffic lanes, and at least five feet of turf, with a five-foot
walkway on the north side of the turf. This area was planned to accommodate mailboxes, and signage.
Engineer Brown also stated it was difficult to structure the walkway around trees, and the City was
attempting to negotiate with residents to determine resolutions for areas that concerned property owners
most in the how the project affected their property. He went on to explain meetings were scheduled to
further define the construction limits in the field so that residents would be able to more accurately
understand where the project would be constructed. Thus far, resident input had indicated further
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markings were needed by the surveyor to clearly convey the construction limits. Engineer Brown also
noted contact had been made with most property owners affected by the project; however, approximately
five residents remained unavailable to set up appointments for review of the proposed plans. He stated
the bulk of the meetings had already taken place with residents, and he would be most willing to talk
about what could happen in the field regarding the placement of the survey stakes.
Councilmember Garfunkel requested clarification for residents regarding the nonconformities found in
the width of the current roadway, and how that would impact the project. Engineer Brown explained
Smithtown Road currently varied in width from 20 feet to 36 feet. The impact of this variation meant that
in the areas where the roadway was 20 feet wide, it would be widened; and where the roadway was 36
feet wide, it would be narrowed, so that the end result produced a uniform roadway width of two driving
lanes measuring 11 feet in width, with a 4-foot shoulder on the south side of the traffic lanes, and a 2-foot
shoulder on the north side of the traffic lanes. An average width for this project was considered to be
approximately 24-26 feet.
Mayor Love requested Staff report back on this matter, and noted Council had held previously held Public
Hearings on this matter. He stated he would like to have contact made with all affected property owners
so that proper diagrams could be shared. He stated a report on tlns matter would be placed on the next
Regular City Council Agenda, and he thanked residents for their comments this evening.
5. PARKS
A. Report on Park Commission Meeting Held February 25, 2003
Engineer Brown reported on matters considered and actions taken at the February 25, 2003, Park
Commission Meeting (as detailed in the minutes of that meeting). Commissioner Meyer was also present
for questions. He noted the Park Commission Meeting was held after the Sports Information Meeting
with representatives of the sports organizations, City Staff, and members of Community Rec. Resources
(CRR), a firm providing Park Coordinator services to the City. Engineer Brown noted the meeting
seemed to go well regarding potential changes in scheduling of the City ball fields for the Sports
Organizations, and he complimented CRR on its efforts to prepare materials and present information at
the meeting. He also noted scheduling software had been purchased by the City and ownership of that
software would be maintained by the City as well.
Commissioner Turgeon stated she had attended the Sports Infomlation meeting, noting the meeting was
well attended, and information presented seemed to be well received by representatives of the sports
organizations.
6. PLANNING
A. Church Road Property
Director Nielsen stated last summer the City had received a request from John Pastuck to purchase the
excess City property at the end of Church Road. The land was originally purchased to construct a cul-de-
sac at the end of the previously dead-end street. At that time, the City assumed the cost of the two street
assessments, totaling $27,787.54, that would otherwise have been borne by the residents of Church Road.
The rationale for this decision was that the assessments would eventually be recovered through resale to a
future developer wishing to utilize the property to the east. Also, at tllat time, Council directed Staff to
obtain an opinion of value for the property and to advise the nearby residents of a possible sale of the
. property. The opinion of value had been received, and Mr. Pastuck had also spoken to nearby property
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owners regarding their possible interest in the property. A letter had been received noting the lack of
interest in bidding on the property at this time from three property owners in the adjacent properties.
Staff recommended the property be sold to the adjoining landowner for $27,787.54, plus the cost of the
appraisal.
Director Nielsen also noted questions had arisen regarding the potential for keeping the property for
conservation open space purposes. As previously stated, he recommended, the money spent for retention
of this property as open space could be utilized elsewhere in a more productive fashion.
Lizee moved, Turgeon seconded, Accepting the Planning Director's recommendation that the City-
owned land at the end of Church Road be sold to the adjoining landowner for $27,787.54, plus the
cost of the appraisal. Motion passed 5/0.
7. GENERAL
Mayor Love requested this item be changed to New Business for future Agenda items. Council agreed.
Councilmember Zerby requested clarification on the inclusion of annual sealcoat funding in the Capital
Improvement Plan, and suggested the City's identification signage located at mlmicipal borders be
updated. Director Nielsen stated revised signage was being considered part of the proposed streetscape
plans for the City entrances.
8. ENGINEERING/PUBLIC WORKS
A. Authorizing Advertisement for Bids for Freeman Park Parking Lot
Engineer Brown reported that in June of 2002, the City of Shorewood entered into a cooperative
agreement with the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) to close the Freeman Park access
closure to State Trunk Highway 7. In consideration of this closure, MnDOT was providing the City with
approximately $75,600 as compensation. Plans were approved and bids opened in July, 2002, and due to
the inflated pricing, bids were rejected with the plan to rebid the project in the spring season of 2003.
Engineer Brown went on to report that with ongoing fears of fuel shortages and oil pricing, it was
probable that the pricing during this bidding process would resemble the pricing from last year. At the
last bidding, the low bid was in the amount of approximately $257,000.
Councilmember Turgeon noted that when the original discussions on this project began, it was anticipated
that the compensation from MNDOT would cover the majority of the cost of the project. She questioned
whether any items in the cooperative agreement stated the parking lot had to be paved as part of this
closure project, as she was having difficulty spending approximately $200,000 for paving a parking lot.
She questioned whether the south parking lot affected by the closure could benefit from parking
designation markers, such as posts, chains, and signs, as had taken place at the north parking lot in
Freeman Park.
Engineer Brown stated the cooperative agreement was for the access closure only, so other options
remained available for handling the parking situation in that lot.
Councilmember Garfunkel stated he agreed with Councilmember Turgeon, but also questioned how the
nearby residents would be impacted by the change from asphalt to aggregate in the parking area, as he
could foresee dust posing a problem to residents in the area.
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Mayor Love stated he also supported Councilmember Turgeon's sentiments regarding the expense ofthe
asphalt parking area. He noted complaints had been received about that parking area, and thought a lot
with designated parking areas would prove more orderly. He stated he was also concerned with the
potential dust problem in that area.
Engineer Brown stated measures could be taken to help control the dust, and when utilized in the past,
residents had been happy with results. He stated another impact to consider was that of drainage from the
parking area. In response to Mayor Love's question, Engineer Brown went on to explain the grading of
the lot had been tipped to the east, and that effort had helped the drainage. From a technical standpoint,
he stated he was not completely certain the drainage in that area was the fault of the grade of the parking
area, however, the grading could be performed to the same elevations as a paved parking area to alleviate
any remaining concerns.
Engineer Brown recommended this item be tabled to work out further details regarding this closure and
subsequent parking issues.
Turgeon moved, Zerby seconded, tabling this item until Engineer Brown reported back on the
matter. Motion passed 5/0.
B. Update on NPDES Phase II Project
Engineer Brown reported an extension had been requested for City as part of its implementation of the
second phase of National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System Project. Engineer Brown
complimented WSB and Associates for simplifying the process utilized in this project, and noted the
League of Minnesota Cities had been working with Minnesota Pollution Control Agency with regard to
questions unanswered about this project.
9. REPORTS
A. Administrator & Staff
1. County Road 19 Intersection
Engineer Brown stated a meeting had taken place between the City and WSB & Associates, the City's
design consultant on the project, to discuss submission of a revised work program for the project. He
stated he had not heard a report from the County as to the status of negotiations regarding properties in
Tonka Bay affected by the project.
Councilmembers Garfunkel and Turgeon noted, while the direction from the City would not change,
updated progress reports had been promised by the County representatives with regard to the impacted
Work Plan for the project.
2. Public Safety Facilities
Director Nielsen stated the bid opening for the project has gone smoothly last week, and based on bids
received, estimates appeared to be in line with projections from Kraus-Anderson, the firm managing the
project.
3. Smithtown Road
Engineer Brown stated there was nothing further to report on this matter at this time.
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4. Metropolitan Council Comments Regarding Comprehensive Plan
Director Nielsen shared comments received from representatives of Metropolitan Council regarding the
City's Comprehensive Plan.
B. Mayor & City Council
Councilmember Turgeon requested the Council hold a work session meeting to discuss potential
budgetary impacts from the anticipated loss of funding from the State. Council agreed, noting this
discussion should be placed on a Regular City Council Meeting Agenda.
10. ADJOURN
Zerby moved, Lizee seconded, adjourning the Regular City Council Meeting of March 10, 2003, at
8:33 P.M. Motion passed 5/0. -.\
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RESPECTFULL Y SUBMITTED,
Sally Keefe,
Recording Secretary
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Neighborhood Comments
City Council Meeting
March 10, 2003
We want to read these comments into the official minutes of this meeting.
Survey Results:
83% in the path of the trail are opposed to it. JOIo are undecided. Only 10% favor it. When you include their neighbors across the road
69% are still opposed. 75% of the survey is opposed to any coercion of their neighbors for trails, with 8% undecided and only 17%
endorsing coercion. 78% of a city wide scientific random sample are opposed to coercion on behalf of trails.
This research is available for your examination. Just can Paul Gagner at 470-9592. We would like to examine the methodology
involved in any city research.
(1) As you can see from our door-to-door results, the vast majority of those in the physical path of the trail oppose it, along with a
clear majority of the neighbors nearby. A clear majority also reject coercion on behalf of the trail. If all neighbors count, then they
should count when they overwhelmingly reject coercion as the method by which a trail is built.
(2) When the Smithtown Trail was first proposed during the Bean administration, it was slated for the south side. That was the
original engineering decision. When the Smithtown Committee opposed that trail it was switched to the north side where most of the
resistance was coming from -- as it is now. We need to make it clear that we will not tolerate the violation of anyone's civil rights due
to animus. The basis of the decision for putting the trail on the north instead of the south side is important, and must be demonstrably
objective, not because we would ever force the trail on our neighbors to the south, but to insure that the basis of any decision the city
makes is clear alld 11011-arbitrary. ObviQusly, a trail 011 the north side forces chi/drell going to school to cross Smithtown Road to the.
north willy nil/y. There may be no clear advantage to one side or the other in this regard. The goal is to make sure that the
engineering rationale is clear and public. We expect detailed documentation from the city in this regard. Then we can sit down with
the DOT, our civil engineering consultant, our lawyers and our state representatives to examine whether the trail project is well-
conceived by nature. One question we are pursuing is what the state would expect from such a decision and the process as a whole.
(3) Just to state the obvious: The city of Shorewood should not be fudging on MSA requirements for an MSA funded trail. We'll
confirm this with the DOT. The city should not be cutting deals for one property owner and not another. There should be no
discrimination in the city's approach to this trail. We should aU be treated the same. If we believe the city is violating anyone's civil
rights, through relative favor, privelege, or disfavor, we will pursue that aggressively. If the only way the city can get the residents to
accept the trail is by violating DOT standards, or manipulating the residents in discriminatory ways, it is a clear sign that the trail is
simply not viable. The neighbors recognize that we're all equal in this together, even if the city does not recognize that.
(4) The city has presented no risk analysis, which proves that the trail, or even just the widening of the road, win not become an
attractive nuisance and cause the first pedestrian-car tragedy on the Shorewood side of Smith town. Presently there is no objective
statistical evidence of a major hazard. And everyone can agree that subjective estimates of safety are simply arbitrary and
authoritarian. Any road, given ~nough time will be the scene of an accident due to driver and pedestrian error. But a trail slated to
cross multiple driveways and siele streets is at least an obvious, objective, attractive nuisance. We intend to make sure that
documentation of Shore wood's lack of analysis in this regard is on record and made public. The State ofMN may not require the city
to produce this documentation, but the first one to be injured by the new configuration, will want to know whether or not this analysis
was done.
(5) As far as we know this council committed itself early on to not forcing trails on people who don't want them. We don't want it.
And the vast majority of Shorewoodians are opposed to coercing us. As far as we're concerned the case is closed.
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