062606 CC Park Comm Min
CITY OF SHOREWOOD
JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, JUNE 26, 2006
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5:45 PM
MINUTES
1. CONVENE JOINT COUNCIL AND PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Mayor Love called the meeting to order at 5:45 P.M.
A.
Roll Call
Present:
Mayor Love; Councilmembers Callies (arrived at 5:53 P.M.), Turgeon, and Wellens;
Administrator Dawson; and Director of Public Works Brown
Park Commission Chair Davis; Park Commissioners Moonen (arrived at 5:50 P.M.),
Norman, Westerlund, and Young
Absent:
Councilmember Lizee, Commissioner Hensley
B.
Review Agenda
Without objection from Council, Mayor Love proceeded with the Agenda for the meeting.
2. REVIEW SCOPE OF PARK COMMISSION ACTIVITIES
Mayor Love asked Park Commission Chair Davis to review Park Commission Activities. She in turn
deferred to Director Brown.
Director Brown stated when the Park Commission had been examining its goals and priorities the topic
of open space had been discussed, and the minutes of that meeting (still in draft form) left room for
misunderstanding about what the Park Commission thought its role should be with regard to open space.
He stated there were six different definitions of open space within the park system alone. He noted that
Council had previously dealt with open space as it related to land donations, or land that Council would
like to have the opportunity to protect or preserve. The varying definitions of open space had contributed
to the confusion.
Brown commented the Commission had recently reviewed the Land Conservation and Environment
Committee (LCEC) report, which discussed open space. He stated early on the LCEC focused its efforts
on specific parcels of land identifY opportunities and their priority.
Brown then stated the question at hand was whether the Commission should be involved with open space
as defined by the Council, in particular with the Gideon Glen property. He noted the property started as
open space, and had a walking path component to it. He also stated the Commission, at its last meeting,
agreed that open space was not the responsibility of the Park Commission. Brown then stated the LCEC
report recommended if another committee were to be established to ensure oversight of open space, both
the Council and its advisory commissions should have representatives on the committee.
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Mayor Love stated it had been the Council's decision to sunset the LCEC, noting he would have
preferred for the LCEC to continue in existence. The intent had been to be able to reconvene the LCEC
should the need arise.
Administrator Dawson explained there had been a couple of tax-forfeit properties that had become
available, but there had not been a need to reconvene the LCEC.
Councilmember Wellens questioned what the definition of open space was.
Councilmember Turgeon stated a report defined what constituted open space and what the criteria was
for open space. She also stated the LCEC had identified various properties that could eventually be
classified as open space, if the City had the financial wherewithal to purchase the properties should they
be made available. She went on to state the Council had allocated $5,000 from the General Fund to an
Open Space fund for the purpose of assisting individuals who may want to place parcels of land into a
land trust.
Chair Davis stated she thought it was prudent to have some group keep abreast of open space
opportunities and concerns.
Mayor Love stated he could envision the Park Commission being involved with promoting the use of
Gideon Glen as an interpretive area. He also stated Gideon Glen was to serve as a model for land
conservation, and to serve as a test to determine what types of storm water treatment approaches were
most effective and appropriate.
Mayor Love stated he had spoken with Planning Director Nielsen with regard to placing a covenant on
Gideon Glen once final arrangements had been made with the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District
(MCWD) regarding maintenance, and after the plantings had been completed. He would like to have the
covenant in place by year-end.
Commissioner Westerlund stated Hennepin County had collected additional natural resource inventory
information since the LCEC report had been prepared. She also stated the MCWD had a land
conservation program that had conducted a wetland inventory. She questioned if the City had considered
how it wanted to interface with Hennepin County and the MCWD with regard to those matters.
Mayor Love stated there were two questions that needed to be addressed; I) who was responsible for
considering what properties should be acquired for open space: and 2) who was responsible for the
oversight of open space. He suggested a committee (which would include representatives from the
Planning Commission, Park Commission and Council) meet yearly to discuss open space opportunities
and concerns. He then stated because a parcel of land was undeveloped, it did not automatically mean the
land should be preserved.
Councilmember Callies questioned if there was a particular problem with regard to open space that
Council and the Park Commission were attempting to address.
Director Brown explained the topic of responsibility for the Gideon Glen was the impetus for the
discussion.
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Councilmember Callies stated she had once been a member of the LCEC, and it was not intended to be a
continuing committee. She stated the LCEC's mission was valuable, but required additional Staff time
and people resources.
Director Brown stated the Commission's question was who was responsible for managing open space if
the LCEC was sunset.
Mayor Love stated to date there had not been any effort expended to look at conservation easements for
properties abutting Gideon Glen, and that was an example of an open space issue that could be addressed.
Commissioner Westerlund stated she thought it prudent for the City to have a long-term vision for the
community that included protecting existing natural resource features. She noted the area across from
Manor Park where 4 houses and been torn down and redeveloped with a 9-unit subdivision. Mayor Love
stated that was a different issue from land conservation.
Mayor Love stated the City needed to determine if it wanted to have the character of the neighborhoods
change and to have the environment change. He cautioned that the City must be sensitive to individuals
trying to stop developments because of inappropriate or unrealistic conservation concerns.
Administrator Dawson commented other City subdivision controls addressed such issues as preserving
trees and replacing trees; but property owners' rights must be maintained.
Councilmember Callies stated in addition to the LCEC having a sunset date, the LCEC's list of items to
address had diminished. She then stated if the City wanted to preserve wooded areas on private property,
the City must be prepared to buy the properties; property owners have the right to use the property as
they want.
Mayor Love stated the City may want to take a proactive role in educating the public on the tax benefits
of creating conservation easements for part of their property.
Without objection from Council members and Commissioners, Mayor Love asked Staff to prepare a
recommendation for establishing an open space oversight committee that would meet yearly which would
consist of Council, Planning Commission, and Park Commission representatives.
Chair Davis suggested, as had Mayor Love, the City should communicate the benefits of donating land as
conservation easements to property owners.
Councilmember Turgeon commented that Planning Director Nielsen had previously cautioned the LCEC
not to automatically categorize all wetland as open space. The wetland must meet specific criteria.
In response to a question from Councilmember Callies, Mayor Love stated there were examples of the
benefits to property owners for establishing conservation easements. Administrator Dawson clarified the
conveying easements did not decrease the property value; the property owner received a tax benefit for
donating the land.
Commissioner Young stated he thought the purpose of this meeting was to clarifY a misunderstanding
with regard to oversight responsibility for open space. The Park Commission's responsibility for open
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space was specific to City parks. He went on to state all the other issues with regard to open space
discussed at the meeting were the Council's responsibility.
In response to a question from Commissioner Young, Mayor Love stated Gideon Glen was not officially
classified as a City park. In response to a question from Councihnember Callies, Commissioner Young
stated the Commission would be able to oversee additional City parks.
Commissioner Moonen stated, from his vantage point, the Commission had agreed its oversight
responsibilities with regard to open space were specific to City park open space.
Director Brown stated there was an opportunity for a new City park to be created on a site currently
occupied by a well house on Apple Road, once the well house was removed. He noted a neighbor to that
property had also expressed interest in purchasing the property.
Director Brown stated the Park Commission had been receiving requests from residents to have the
lighting at the football fields and hockey rinks to be repaired. He noted the lighting was in dire need of
replacement. There had also been numerous calls from residents regarding the condition of tennis courts
at Manor Park. He stated the City was accepting bids for resurfacing of the tennis courts; although Staff
was assessing whether the tennis courts should be reconstructed or resurfaced.
Mayor Love stated he thought Director Brown was implying there was a need for a realistic capital
improvement budget for City parks and recreational areas.
Councilmember Turgeon stated the Commission must prioritize its desired rehabilitation projects.
Councilmember Callies concurred, there was a need for a prioritized list of rehabilitation projects.
Director Brown explained the Commission had been working on preparing a list of projects and
estimated costs for the long-term.
In response to a question from Commissioner Westerlund, Councilmember Turgeon explained a park
dedication fee was paid for any newly created lot.
In response to a question from Commissioner Westerlund, Administrator Dawson explained the Park
Improvement Fund did not accumulate much revenue as the City continued to mature. He went on to
explain there could be additional transfers from the General Fund; projects could continue to be funded
only with park improvement fees; or projects could be combined and funded through a referendum.
Mayor Love stated issues such as determining how to fund City park rehabilitation for maturing cities
should be brought to the League of Cities for discussion.
Councilmember Wellens stated when a city was fully developed the city parks should stabilize as well.
He stated the Park Fund monies would only be needed for repairs.
Chair Davis stated a Waterford resident called her to ask if Silverwood Park could be updated, and some
of the area's residents would be before the Commission to discuss how to go about a fund-raising effort
to support the upgrade. She stated the resident was surprised the City did not have funds for those types
of upgrades.
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Councilmember Callies stated there were residents on Christmas Lake who wanted the rest area to be
refurbished. Administrator Dawson stated the City did not own the land on the south side of Highway 7;
MnDOT owned the land. He also stated if MnDOT continued to own the land it would remain an open
area. Mayor Love questioned ifthe rest area were purchased from MnDOT, could it be made a City Park.
3. OTHER BUSINESS
None.
4. ADJOURN
Westerlund moved, Davis seconded, Adjourning the Joint City Council and Park Commission
Meeting of June 26, 2006, at 6:45 P.M. Motion passed 9/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Christine Freeman, Recorder
Woody Love, Mayor