05-03-11 CC-Park-Planning WSCITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
WORK SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PARK COMMISSION & PLANNING COMMISSION 6:00 P.M.
TUESDAY, MAY 3, 2011.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL, PARK COMMISSION AND PLANNING
COMMISSION WORK SESSION
Mayor Lizde called the meeting to order at 6:03 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present: Mayor Lizde; Councilmembers Hotvet, Siakel, Woodruff and Zerby; Attorney
Keane (6:10 P.M. arrival); City Administrator Heck (6:10 P.M. arrival); Planning
Director Nielsen
Park Commission Chair Quinlan; Park Commissioners Robb, Edmondson,
Swaggert, Kjolhaug and Hartmann
Planning Commissioners Charbonnet, Davis, Garelick, Hasek, and Hutchins
Absent: Park Commissioner Trent, Planning Commissioner Chair Geng and Planning
Commissioner Arnst
B. Review Agenda
Zerby moved, Siakel seconded, approving the agenda as presented. Motion passed 16/0.
2. Strategic Planning (This item was discussed after Item 43 on the agenda).
Mayor Liz& indicated that Administrator Heck would review the strategic planning effort that is
underway.
Administrator Heck stated that Staff and Council met in two one -half day meetings with a
facilitator, and talked about both internal and external forces that impact the services the city
provides. The discussion included core values, key attributes, and broad goal categories. Council
and Staff identified seven broad goal areas. These include:
1) Fostering greater community involvement — how to get our residents involved, and how we
communicate with them.
2) Responding to service needs for changing demographics — what can we do to accommodate
the needs of the community in the future that will include a larger number of retirees.
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3) Providing safe and diverse transportation — this considers items such as creating a walkable
community, and the best practices for roads. This also ties back to demographics. The city has a
newly formed Trail committee which is discussing trails in the city.
4) Providing and expanding recreational activities — the Park Commission has established many
park programs and activities focused at younger population; the city would like to look at
incorporating more adult park and recreational activities.
5) Environmental issues — Lake Minnetonka was identified as one of our major resources.
Improving and maintaining good lake quality, as well as other natural resources in the city, such
as how to handle emerald ash borer and other tree diseases; zebra mussels in Lake Minnetonka
and other lakes, and maintaining quality drinking water.
6) Identify economic development opportunities — the Smithtown Crossing and County Road 19
corridor fits into this area. Resources to promote development and economic redevelopment need
to be identified.
7) Collaboration with other cities — opportunities to collaborate with other cities on city services
are to be identified. For example, there could be opportunities for the Planning Commission to
work with neighboring cities on programs, such as the County Road 19 redevelopment. There are
other collaboration opportunities in providing city services and infrastructure services. Our
services may change with a changing population.
Heck indicated that Council and Staff will meet on Wednesday, May 11 to continue this
discussion and wanted to share this information with the Park and Planning Commissions.
Councilmember Siakel asked the Park or Planning Commissions their thoughts on this topic
Commissioner Robb indicated he was pleased to see that many of the Park Commission's goals
were identified. The Park Commission has a meeting planned with the City of Tonka Bay, and
they also hope to meet with the City of Excelsior. He noted the collaboration between the three
cities on the Arctic Fever event. The strategic planning broad goals identified seem to be in line
with many of the Park Commission goals.
Commission Hartmann asked if feedback would be sought from Shorewood residents on what
they would like to see.
Siakel stated the group talked about conducting a survey, and we need to determine what survey
questions to ask.
Discussed ensued on the many methods for conducting a survey. Lizee reviewed some of those
identified, which included a mailing, through the city newsletter, a notice on the utility billing, an
on -line computer survey with a service such as Zoomerang, and a telephone all -call system.
Commissioner Edmondson agreed with the need for community involvement. He stated he is
familiar with responses from the park surveys and they are bleek. He noted the need to create a
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survey method that will achieve a good response factor.
Heck noted that the City Council has also considered using a more scientific tool, which involves
working with a survey firm that produces this type of survey. We also need to determine if it is
best to conduct a large, all - encompassing survey, or break it into smaller category surveys, such
as parks, planning, and other service areas as identified.
Woodruff noted that the Lake Minnetonka Communications Commission recently made a
presentation to the Council, and one of the findings was that there are a large percentage of
people who do not use the internet, so we do need to be careful about what method we choose for
conducting the survey.
3. Sustainability (This item was discussed before Item #f2 on the agenda)
Planning Director Nielsen stated that the Planning Commission began to discuss the topic of
sustainability last year. They determined to discuss this topic with the City Council, and the City
Council invited the Park Commission to participate. Sustainability looks at every aspect of life,
the resources needed, and if those resources will be available in the long term future. Nielsen
noted it can be an overwhelming subject. He indicated that he provided many resources on the
topic of sustainability to the Council and Commissions, and encouraged everyone to look at
these materials. He attended a Clean Energy Resource Team (CERT) convergence Last year, and
one of the resource items from the CERT meeting that was provided to the Council and
Commissions was the GreenStep City Program. This program has a list of 28 best practices for
achieving sustainability goals. It covers a wide range of activities. It is not expected that all of
the practices will be achieved, but the goal is it achieve as many as possible. He noted that the
Planning Commission is working on a resolution for the City Council to consider which will
enroll the city in the GreenStep City Program.
Nielsen indicated that the Planning Commission discussed using the Comprehensive Plan as a
guide with the GreenStep Cities Program. The Comprehensive Plan includes four elements:
environmental, land use, transportation and community facilities, along with policies and plans
to guide the future development of the city. Each element of the Comprehensive Plan could be
evaluated with the GreenStep City program by Looking at the resources being used today and
those needed in the future.
Councilmember Woodruff asked what is involved in being a member of the GreenStep Program
and if there is any cost involved.
Nielsen indicated it is a free program. The city needs to adopt a resolution joining the program.
The city would provide a list of the practices already completed, and if a certain number of
practices have been met, the city would be recognized. Cities can easily join and grow into the
program. The program provides advice for achieving the practices. He indicated that some of the
practices will cost money. He stated an example of one thing the city can do is conduct an energy
audit and make changes that are identified from the audit. He indicated that cities that participate
in the program have eventually saved money.
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In response to a question from Councilmember Hotvet, Nielsen indicated that there should be
grant money available for some of the items.
L,izee stated she appreciates the work the Planning Commission has done and their initiative to
prepare a resolution. She would like to break down the parts of the 28 best practices. Nielsen
stated that out of the 28 items, the city has already completed 5 -6 items.
Zerby asked Nielsen if he is the GreenStep Coordinator.
Nielsen stated it seems to be a planning department effort, and he is willing to do it. He said it
could also be done by a group, but it's probably better to have an individual be the coordinator. It
was noted that it would be good to have a GreenStep Coordinator job description.
Robb asked if there were any other benefits to the GreenStep Cities program, other than
recognition.
Nielsen indicated there are financial benefits. The projects need to make financial sense. He also
indicated it's the right thing to do.
Commissioner Hotvet asked if residents in community could participate.
Nielsen indicated with the initial effort, the city would lead by example and identify programs
that residents could participate in.
Commissioner Davis noted that one item the city and residents are cooperating in is local food
growth, noting we have our community gardens.
4. Smithtown Crossing Redevelopment Study
Nielsen noted that the Planning Commission been working on a redevelopment study for County
Road 19 and Smithtown Road. This has been identified as a prime area for redevelopment.
Nielsen outlined the boundary of the area, which includes the north edge of Gideon Glen, which
is a conservation open space. Gideon Glen would not be developed, as the Watershed District is
working on restoring this area, which includes a pond, wetland, and a reforestation area. The
focus of the study is the northwest quadrant of intersection. Internal circulation is a
consideration. Access is an issue as there is limited access off of County Road 19; access would
primarily be from Smithtown Road. Nielsen reviewed a couple of concept plans for the
northwest quadrant drafted by Commissioner Hasek. On the phased plan, the project would
occur in phases. This would require each area to address an independent parking and ponding
area; on the cohesive plan, parking and ponding is shared for the entire area, and there would be
a consistent building design. A similar plan could be developed for the south and east areas of the
study.
Nielsen indicated that last year, on May 4, the Planning Commission met with the City Council
to discuss the Smithtown Crossing Redevelopment project. The report contains a vision
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statement for the property, which is a description of what we have in mind for the property,
recognizing that it may take many years to achieve, especially in the current economy. The
Commission then met with landowners of the area to talk about the Smithtown Crossing
Redevelopment Study, and about half of the people came to meeting. There was agreement that
a unified, cohesive approach benefitted them best. Nielsen stated that a panel of developers met
with the Commission and the developers made recommendations on what it would take to get the
kind of development the city is looking for. They didn't think retail was the appropriate market
for this area, but that service - commercial would be better. There was some skepticism about
multiple - family housing; it was thought that perhaps senior housing would be more optimistic.
The Planning Commission toured properties around the metro area to get a sense of various
developments. One of the sites was Glen Lake in Minnetonka; this property included a five -story
facility. This example gives a sense of how a taller building would fit into the area. The city's
current ordinance has a building height restriction of three stories. Summerwood of Chanhassen
was not as well liked as it had little landscaping or building character. Both of these sites
contained commercial on the lower level with residential above. One site on the tour which was
well -liked by the Commission was the Town Square site in Golden Valley; it had nice public
spaces with outdoor table and chair seating, good bicycle - connections and pedestrian walkways,
and landscaping. The Commons project in Golden Valley was also visited; this site also had nice
public space and landscaping.
Nielsen discussed a concept plan for the County Road 19 corridor project, which was adopted in
2003. This plan addresses streetscaping, pedestrian circulation and access. The Trail Committee
met last night and talked about this area and access to the east to Excelsior and to the north on
County Road 19 and linking to the LRT trail. With the Smithtown Crossing project, the hope is to
extend pedestrian and bicycle circulation westward.
Nielsen noted that one of the recommendations the Planning Commission has made is making
sure the city's development regulations don't stand in the way of good development. The
Commission has started working on a mixed use ordinance, discussing building height and
possible higher density for the residential housing part of the project. A developer asked if the
city would consider Tax Increment Financing as means of redevelopment. The Commission
strongly recommends the city give serious thought to acquiring properties as they become
available. They noted there is one property in the area that is for sale at this time.
The next step for the Planning Commission is to bring this effort to the City Council for
acceptance, and to then go to surrounding neighborhoods to see what they think. The plan will be
adjusted with feedback from residents.
Hotvet expressed we have a golden opportunity and we are strategically located. She indicated
this is an exciting project and it would be nice to tie it in with our parks and natural resource.
With the changing demographics, it will be important to listen to what the people in Shorewood
want.
Siakel stated we may want to ask residents for input through the survey. She also noted that the
city has funds from the sale of the city owned liquor stores and perhaps those funds could be
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used for property acquisition, or we could determine if those funds could be used on a project
like this to support the community.
Zerby indicated he agrees with obtaining input from the residents. He would like to see more
alternatives which would include expansion of the green space. He acknowledged the American
Legion wants to improve and expand its building to offer more services. Zerby feels this would
be aimed toward an older demographic. He feels that creating more park /open space in this area
is a better option than a big shopping center.
In response to a question from Robb, Nielsen stated that Gideon Glen is a conservation open
space. An interpretive trail exists in Gideon Glen; however, accessibility is an issue as there is no
parking available for it. Nielsen noted that an outdoor seating area or housing could be situation
to overlook Gideon Glen, taking advantage of the views of this open space.
Lizde noted there is agreement that a cohesive approach to this project would be better than a
phased plan. She asked if drawings of other options could be provided. She also noted that the
City Council needs to consider purchasing properties as they become available.
Edmondson stated he would like to see a corner marquee which would create a gathering space;
he likes the concept of viewing both Gideon Glen and the Minnetonka Country Club to maintain
the large open spaces.
Hotvet indicated she would like to see more of a low tech approach; she doesn't favor a plan that
includes commercial- service use. She envisions a plan that supports the needs of the residents
who live in the area, the Legion, a trail system to bring people into the area, and perhaps senior
or mixed housing use.
Zerby stated he could see the space used as a temporary event space for community events such
as art fair and a farmers market. He would like to see more green space, Less parking lot. He
would like to see some pencil sketches of other development options.
Hasek indicated there are a lot of visions for the property, noting the tricky part will be to
coordinate the wants of the residents in the community with what can be marketed at that
location. He noted a survey will tell us what community wants, and the developer will identify
the needs. He noted a beautiful plan can be put together, but it may be difficult to find a
developer to building it because it's wrong for the area.
Nielsen stated that the next step would be to take this to the neighbors and the public by way of
an informal open house in order to get feedback from the public.
Lizee expressed that the Council should seriously look at the ownership of the property and
discuss purchasing the property that is for sale. The Legion is a big landowner, and they are
interested in being serious players in the plan. She favors getting concept plans, talking with
neighbors, and discussing with the Park and Planning Commissions.
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In response to a comment from Zerby, Davis indicated that the American Legion, which owns
the gas station, has a demolition permit to tear down the gas station, and this work will likely be
done soon.
Siakel agreed with Lizee that the city needs to be serious about purchasing property for the
project as it become available. She favors some commercial use in the plan, but does not want to
see a five -story building.
Nielsen asked if the City Council would like to see additional concept plans prior to a public
open house. He noted that a problem with a conceptual design is that people get attached to it,
but it may not be realistic. The Commission's thought was to get feedback from the residents on
the design elements, without drawing a concept plan.
Lizee agreed it would make sense to get feedback from the residents before creating more
concept sketches. She thought the Smithtown Crossing document would be good to share with
residents and landowners in the redevelopment area.
Hasek referenced a document on redevelopment in the twin cities that was published in 2011,
which reflects what is happening in development community. It includes many points about
mixed use development and how important it is, and flexibility in city ordinances.
Lizee requested that document be shared with everyone
Commissioner Kohlhaug asked what constraints might exist on the money that the city has and
how much was available.
Lizee stated there is approximately $1.8 million, of which $800K was from the sale from liquor
stores. She indicated that some money has been taken from that fund each year to help balance
the budget. She noted that Council has talked about getting feedback from residents on how this
money should be spent or invested.
Woodruff stated the $1 million was taken from the sewer enterprise fund which had been
overfunded. It was put into a fund, created for needed projects that the Council identified. He
noted that each year, $40K of the liquor store funds had been used to fund the parks capital fund;
and the interest from the $800K supported this; however, the interest in recent times has not fully
funded the park projects, so some of the principal has been used to support the parks capital
fund.
Siakel asked if there were any plans for the rest of County Road 19, noting the Garden Patch site
is for sale.
Nielsen stated that about three years ago, there was a study completed on suggestions for that
end of the corridor, but it was not well received by adjoining landowners. Many of the Timber
Lane residents were concerned about the redevelopment plan. That plan was not adopted and it
was agreed it would be revisited at a later time; this could be done this year.
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In response to a question from Edmondson, Nielsen indicated the current owner of the Tonka
Bay shopping center has made external improvements, and those improvements have revitalized
that shopping center. It is currently full, so he is not aware of any other redevelopment plans at
this time.
Lizee thanked everyone for coming to the meeting this evening.
Hotvet moved, Zerby seconded, adjourning the Work Session of the City Council, Park
Commission and Planning Commission at 7:40 p.m. Motion passed 16/0.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean Panchyshyn, Recorder
Christine Lizee, Mayor
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