05-13-13 CC Reg Mtg MinCITY OF SHOREWOOD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, MAY 13, 2013
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
Mayor Zerby called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present. Mayor Zerby; Councilmembers Hotvet, Siakel and Woodruff, Attorney Keane; City
Administrator Joynes; Clerk Panehyshyn; Finance Director DeJong; Planning Director
Nielsen; Director of Public Works Brown; and City Engineer Homby
Absent: Councilmember Sandberg
B. Review Agenda
Hotvet moved, Woodruff seconded, approving the agenda as presented. Motion passed 4/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes, April 22, 2013
Woodruff moved, Siakel seconded, Approving the City Council Regular Meeting Minutes of April
22, 2013, as presented. Motion passed 4/0.
3. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Zerby reviewed the items on the Consent Agenda.
Woodruff moved, Siakel seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent Agenda and
Adopting the Resolutions Therein.
A. Approval of the Verified Claims List
B. Minor Subdivision — Extension of Time
Applicant: George Danser
Location: Christmas Lake Road
C. Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 13 -027, "A Resolution Approving Intoxicating
Liquor License On -Sale Intoxicating Liquor and Special Sunday Sales, for the
Minnetonka Country Club'; RESOLUTION NO. 13 -028, "A Resolution Approving
Intoxicating Liquor License On -Sale Intoxicating Liquor and Special Sunday Sales,
for American Legion Post #259 "; RESOLUTION NO. 13 -029, "A Resolution
Approving a 3.2 Percent `Off -Sale' Malt Liquor License, for Shorewood 2001 LLC,
dba Cub Foods"; RESOLUTION NO. 13 -030, "A Resolution Approving an Off -Sale
Intoxicating Liquor License, for Park Square Subway, Inc., dba Shorewood
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Liquor'; and, RESOLUTION NO. 13 -031, "A Resolution Approving an Off -Sale
Intoxicating Liquor License, for TL Shorewood Inc. dba Team Liquor Wine &
Spirits.'
Motion passed 4/0.
4. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no matters from the floor presented this evening.
5. PUBLIC HEARING
None.
6. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
None.
7. PARKS
Mayor Zerby stated there has not been a Park Commission meeting since the last Council meeting.
Couneilmember Siakel stated the next meeting is tomorrow, May 14.
Director Brown noted that Commission is going to tour some of the City's parks prior to the Regular Park
Commission meeting on May 14.
S. PLANNING
A. Report on the May 7, 2013, Planning Commission Meeting
Director Nielsen reported on matters considered and actions taken at the May 7, 2013, Planning
Commission meeting (as detailed in the minutes of that meeting).
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A. Roadway Preliminary Design Alternatives for Valleywood Lane / Valleywood Circle
Improvement Project, City Project 13-01
City Engineer Homby noted that the meeting packet contains a copy of a memorandum from him
regarding five design alternatives for the Valleywood Lane / Valleywood Circle Improvement Project.
They include: 1) an urban section roadway; 2) a rural section roadway; 3) a combination of urban and
rural roadway; 4) special width for Valleywood Lane west of Valleywood Circle; and, 5) a special width
Valleywood Circle.
He displayed a photograph of Valleywood Lane looking west from Eureka Circle which showed there are
trees very close to the roadway. The trees are located in the right -of -way (ROW). He explained there is
not a ditch there now so the water runs off the lawns on to the edge of the roadway and either sits there or
flows over the roadway. During the public hearing for the improvements there was discussion about
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creating a ditch. If a ditch is put in the trees that close to the roadway will have to be removed. He
displayed a photo of Valleywood Lane looking east from Valleywood Circle.
Be displayed a photo of Meadowview Road looking south from Valleywood Lane. He explained the
section displayed is an urban section with curb and gutter. Around the radii and the catch basin there is a
barrier (B -type) curb which is 6 inches high. There is a surmountable (S -type) curb along the roadway
going south; that type of curb can be driven over. He noted that roadway is a little narrower than the
standard City roadway.
He described three diagrams for Valleywood Lane. The first diagram illustrated the existing condition
where the water from the lawns drains onto the roadway. On the left side there are areas that drop off to a
natural lowland with or without trees. The second diagram illustrated an urban section with curb on both
sides independent of whether the boulevard goes up or down. Curb on the right side would help to protect
trees. The third diagram illustrated a rural section. Even a minimal ditch on the right side of the roadway
would impact trees. As the ditch goes down the grade it will get deeper to allow the water to flow from
one end of the roadway to the other to a low point. When the ditch has to go outside of the City's ROW
the City will need to get drainage and utility easements from property owners. It will also need to get
construction easements to construct the ditches. He noted the ROW is 50 feet wide and explained it is
difficult to get ditches into a 50 foot ROW.
He noted staff recommends using a hybrid of urban and rural segments; alternatives 3, 4 and 5. He
explained there would be curb and gutter on: the south side of Valleywood Lane from Eureka Road to
Valleywood Circle; on the north side it would be from the intersection of Meadowview Lane up to where
Valleywood Lane goes north; and, along Valleywood Circle and the island in that roadway. For
Valleywood Circle it would be a B612 curb around the island and a surmountable curb at the edge of the
roadway. The width of Valleywood Lane would be 24.5 feet (21 feet of bituminous pavement surface
with curb on one side and aggregate shoulder on the opposite side) from Eureka Road to Valleywood
Circle. The width of Valleywood Lane west of Valleywood Circle would be improved to a 20- foot -wide
bituminous surface with curb on the north side. The width of Valleywood Circle would be 23 feet face to
face of curb (20 feet of bituminous surfacing with 1.5 foot wide concrete gutters on each side) except for
the area around the center island which would be reduced to a width of 20 feet. It may be beneficial to
sign the roadway around the island to one way and no parking.
Peggy Kauthold, 25675 Valleywood Lane, asked City Engineer Homby to clarify what was proposed for
ditches along Valleywood Lane east of Meadowview Lane. Homby explained no ditches are proposed for
that section of roadway. Ms. Kaufhold stated what is being proposed for the section of road her property
abuts meets her needs.
Pete Davis, 5495 Valleywood Circle, stated City Engineer Hornby's memo states "The costs to construct
the urban roadway will be slightly higher than the rural roadway ... ". To him slightly is a nebulous
number. Homby stated his memo explained that is because that roadway section would also require a
storm sewer with catch basins to convey stormwater. Mr. Davis asked if there are numbers. Homby
responded there are not and explained his comment about slightly higher is based on his experience. Mr.
Davis then asked what easements need to be purchased and for what approximate cost. Honlby explained
that to construct a ditch for the rural section alternative for Valleywood Lane would require the City to
purchase a drainage easement to construct the ditch in. Mr. Davis asked what the average cost is to
purchase an easement, and noted they would be willing to give the City an easement. Mr. Davis stated if
the City wants to move forward without having cost estimates that's the City's choice.
Mayor Zerby explained the City has to finalize the design before it can make better estimates.
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Mr. Davis explained the roadway naturally slopes toward the wetlands.
City Engineer Homby explained in the fall of 2012 there was a neighborhood meeting during which there
was a design proposed to have the stormwater flow across the roadway. That was how the feasibility
report was originally written. When stormwater flows across the roadway during February and March two
things happen. There is a continual maintenance issue because of icing. There is also the issue of a
freeze /thaw cycle created on the roadway. Neither of those is desirable. The feasibility report was
modified for that reason.
Mayor Zerby noted that a considerable amount of engineering work has gone into this project to date.
Staff has worked hard to address environmental needs and residents' concerns. He stated he thought the
hybrid of urban/rural proposed is good.
Couneilmember Siakel asked what the cost would be to do a mill and overlay of the two roadways. She
stated there is a lot of community support for other expensive projects such as sidewalks and trails. She
explained the Valleywood Lane / Valleywood Circle neighborhood has about a dozen homes and this
project is not on the top of their list for the City to do. She asked if the City would save funds by just
doing a mill and overlay now and schedule the entire project for 10 years down the road. Some of the
dollars for this project could be freed up to do other projects now. She stated it seems as if the residents in
the small neighborhood are upset because they don't want the improvements to the roadway or the
waterrnain extension. She commended staff for the job it has done. She stated the City and staff have done
a really good job of reaching out to the residents.
Director Brown stated staff can look at the mill and overlay option. He then stated in the 20 -Year
Pavement Improvement Plan (PMT) it is challenging to spread out expenditures. He noted this has been
the third or fourth project that a council has put on the backburner. He stated continuing to do that may
well put the City in the predicament of having to do multiple major roadway improvements in a short
time period. He cautioned Council that in the overall scheme financing roadway improvements may
become problematic if Council continues to prolong major improvements.
Couneilmember Woodruff stated although it is generous for Mr. Davis to say he would donate an
easement to help manage stormwater runoff a future owner of that property may not like that even though
there is an easement. He then stated a few years ago when Meadowview Road was being considered for
improvements there was discussion about whether to reconstruct the road or reclaim the road. From his
perspective the reason it was reconstructed was because of the significant drainage issues that could best
be addressed when the road was replaced. He then stated the proposal for the Valleywood Lane /
Valleywood Circle project seems to be a reasonable compromise. It addresses drainage issues and restores
the roadways to something that will last for a considerable amount of time. He expressed concern that a
mill and overlay would not last very long and the money spent would be wasted. He explained the 2013
budget for the project calls for reconstruction. He stated what is being proposed should be far less costly
than what the budget allows for.
City Engineer Homby explained that what is being proposed would be a lower cost alternative than
reconstruction because some of the width is being reduced and not all of the curb and storm sewer will be
put it. The base would be replaced with the proposed alternative. He noted the feasibility report cost
estimate is conservative. He stated that after the public hearing for this project there was more discussion
about a rural segment than in the feasibility report. With this project site an attempt is made to take
advantage of the low areas and allow stormwater to flow the way it has in the past. The curb that would
be constructed would help preserve trees in the corridor and help control the drainage.
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Councilmember Woodruff stated at the same time Meadowview Road was done Nelsine Drive was
reclaimed. Nelsine Drive was suitable for that and it has very little traffic on it. He noted the proposal is a
reasonable solution for the Valleywood project. He stated he does not want the City to do a mill and
overlay that will only last 7 — 8 years.
Councilmember Siakel asked how long a mill and overlay would last.
Director Brown stated the deciding factor as to whether or not to reclaim a roadway is underlying soils. If
they are heaving during frost conditions then it would not do any good to reclaim a roadway. He
explained for a normal mill and overlay it's common to start to see cracks in the asphalt every 20 feet
after about 10 years and sever potholes start occurring after 12 years. If Valleywood Lane and
Valleywood Circle were milled and overlaid he thought that would occur within a 7 -year time frame.
Brown explained that Valleywood Lane is adjacent to low land and the underlying soils bear that out. By
doing a mill and overlay for the roadways the City would lose about 25 percent of its investment over the
life of that pavement.
Councilmember Woodruff asked if what is being proposed will have a life of 30 years. Director Brown
explained engineers typically like to use an expected life of 20 years. He noted most of the City's
roadways were constructed in the early 1970s when the sewer system was installed.
Councilmember Hotvet stated she thought that what is being proposed is a good compromise.
Sue Davis 5495 Valleywood Circle, noted that she had a nice meeting with City Engineer Homby the
previous week to talk about this. She stated there is one issue that will not be solved until another
roadway in the area is done. Residents want some assurance that trees on the island in Valleywood Circle
are not damaged. The trees are big and they are located out toward the edge. Their feeder roots are going
to be damaged. She then stated that Hornby stated there will be two feet of sand put in the circle to help
with drainage. That would be very beneficial. She commented that there is a pothole in front of her
property that has had water in for 30 years even if there is a drought. She stated the residents want as low
impact as possible and minimal disturbance as possible. She noted the proposal is probably as close as it
can be. She stated residents are okay with making the road around the island one way. She requested that
when the plans are done residents be able to see the construction limits.
Richard Miller, 5445 Valleywood Circle, stated that the basically the residents along Valleywood Circle
make sure the island is maintained. He noted that he mows the grass on the island. He commented that the
island is viewed as the residents' yard. It does not belong to any one person. He conveyed that he has
always hoped that a curb would be constructed around the island to prohibit a child from doing donuts on
the island and wrecking the landscaping. He asked if constructing a curb is feasible.
City Engineer Hornby stated from a design perspective it can be considered and there could be an area
where the curb is dropped so a riding mower can get on to the island.
Mr. Miller stated he would be okay with putting a plank down to mow. He noted that if constructing a
curb would result in the loss of trees on the island he would not be in favor of doing that. He stated he did
not know how far into the residential properties the new road would have to go to maintain proper width
of the roadway. He asked if constructing the curbs would require doing more than a mill and overlay.
Director Brown stated the hardest part of this type of roadway project is the removal of the subsoil and
replacing it with materials that will not heave (mostly sand). lie then stated there will probably be a week
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when the subsoil is being mined out when the area will look like a war zone. Construction is dirty. He
then stated staff clearly understands how special the center island is to the residents along Valleywood
Circle. He noted a barrier curb around the island is being proposed.
Councilmember Woodruff stated the memo from City Engineer Hornby states the width of the roadway
around the will be reduced to 20 feet. He asked what the current width is. Hornby explained that in the
feasibility report it states the current width of Valleywood Circle ranges from 14 feet to 24 feet. He noted
that to meet fire code there must be a 20- foot -wide hard surface. Woodruff stated the proposed design
reflects a surmountable curb on the outside of the roadway. He asked if that is 24 inches wide. Hornby
stated a little wider than that. Homby explained he is counting 20 feet to be from the face of the barrier
curb around the island to the flow line of the surmountable curb. It will be 20 feet face to face of curb.
There will be another 8 inches for the back the barrier curb. On the residential property side there will be
another approximate 16 inches. That amount to approximately 22 feet back to back of curb.
Director Brown stated the PMP has Valleywood Circle listed as a 23 foot width, noting that is average.
Woodruff moved, Hotvet seconded, directing staff to proceed with the final design for the
Valleywood Lane / Valleywood Circle roadway improvements (alternatives 3, 4 and 5) per the
recommendation identified in the memorandum from City Engineer Hornby dated May 13, 2013.
Motion passed 4/0.
Director Brown stated when the plans are nearing finalization a downloadable copy will be placed on the
City's website.
Mayor Zerby stated the next step for Council will be to authorize advertisement for bids. He then stated
the plan is to complete construction in 2013.
Councilmember Woodruff stated people will have an opportunity to comment on the final design.
Mayor Zerby noted the City will involve the residents in every part of the process they want to be
involved in.
B. Consider City Project Bid Award for Excelsior Boulevard Storm Sewer, Lift Station
11 Foreemain and Excelsior Boulevard Trail Extension (Additional Work) as Part
of the Metropolitan Council Environmental Services (MCES) Excelsior Area
Interceptor Improvements Cooperative Agreement
City Engineer Hornby noted that the meeting packet contains a copy of a memorandum from him
regarding three projects that are being considered as part of a cooperative effort with Metropolitan
Council Environmental Services (MCES). He explained the memo describes the three projects. [1) Lift
Station I 1 Foreemain Replacement — forcemain replacement in Covington Road will disconnect the City
forcemain from MCES' forcemain and provide a new connection to gravity sewer approximately 1,000
feet east. 2) Excelsior Boulevard Storm Sewer Improvements — improvements will be made to the storm
sewer at a roadway low point between Manor Road and Barrington Way. 3) Excelsior Boulevard Trail
Extension — Extend the trail from Manor Road to Barrington Way.]
The memo shows the estimated amount, the Capital Improvement Program (CIP) and the bid amount for
each project. For the Lift Station 11 Forcernain project the respective amounts are $140,254, $194,800
and $123,717. For the Storm Sewer project the respective amounts are $10,074, $40,000 and $7,481. For
the Trail Extension project the respective amounts are $162,506, $30,000 and $166,872. The reason the
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Trail Extension project is so much higher than the CIP amount is a retaining wall has to be constructed to
support the embankment of Trunk Highway 7.
Homby noted staff recommends the Lift Station 11 Forcemain project and the Storm Sewer
Improvements project go forward. The bids for those two projects are favorable. He explained the Trail
Extension project is feasible to construct from an engineering perspective. He stated Council needs to
decide the financial viability of doing the Trail Extension project.
Hornby stated the meeting packet contains copies of supporting information. There is a revised Exhibit B-
2 for the Cooperative Agreement with Metropolitan Council which reflects the costs estimates for
individual components of each of the three projects. There are engineering drawings. There is a picture of
an example of what the retaining wall would look like. There is a copy of a memorandum from
Administrator Joynes and from Director Nielsen regarding the Trail Extension project.
Hornby asked Council to make a motion specifying which of the three projects it wants to move forward
with.
Couneilmember Woodruff stated he was pleased that the bid amounts for the Lift: Station project and the
Storm Sewer project are less than the estimate and CIP amounts. He noted that he thought the value of the
Trail Extension project is low while the cost is exceptionally high. From his vantage point there are other
trail segments that are far more important (e.g., the Galpin Lake Road trail segment). He noted that
residents have come before Council to talk about the Galpin Lake Road segment. He stated he would
prefer to spend the funds on that.
Councihnember Siakel stated having the trail extension would be nice. But, because of the cost maybe it
should be pushed out a number of years. She then stated the City has other priorities for trail segments.
She noted she is okay with not including the Trail Extension project at this time. She stated the retaining
wall could be put in at any time.
Mayor Zerby explained the combined CIP amount for the Lift Station project and the Storm Sewer project
is $234,800 and the combined bid amount for the two projects is $131,198. That leaves a balance of
$103,620. When that balance is combined with the $30,000 in the CIP for the Trail Extension project it
comes to $133,620. That is not that far off from the $166,872 cost to build the trail segment. There is an
approximate $33,000 gap. He noted the staff report indicates a MCES cleanout structure would have to be
relocated and a part of a high pressure gasmain would have to be relocated as part of the Trail Extension
project. He asked if some of the balance in the CIP for the two projects could be used to do some
components of the Trail Extension project (e.g., the relocations of the cleanout structure and gasmain)
now because it would be easier than at a later date. He noted that he disagrees with comments made in a
previous meeting that the trail would go nowhere. He stated it would connect the City of Excelsior to a
greater part of Shorewood. The connector crosses Highway 7 and down Old Market Road and then almost
to Minnetonka. The trail would allow residents who live in that part of Shorewood to walk or bike to that
part of Excelsior safely. He commented it is a high visibility area.
Comrcilmember Siakel noted she appreciates Mayor Zerby's perspective. She asked if there is another
segment of trail in the Trail Implementation Plan (e.g., Galpin Lake Road) that is higher on the priority
list. A segment that would be used more.
Mayor Zerby clarified he is not questioning the priority. But, an opportunity has presented itself. He
stated based on his experience mobilization (getting equipment to the site) is a large part of the cost of
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any construction project. That mobilization could be leveraged by doing some or part of the Trail
Extension project now.
Councilmember Woodruff asked if the relocation of the cleanout structure and high pressure gasmain
have to be done because of the MCES project or do they have to be done because of the Trail Extension
project. City Engineer Homby responded yes and no.
City Engineer Hornby noted the C1P amounts included indirect costs. lie explained construction
inspectors will be out at the City's projects. The bid amounts include construction as bid plus a 15 percent
contingency. He then explained the high pressure gasmain wanders in and out of the City's right -of -way
(ROW) between the City's ROW and the Minnesota Department of Transportation's (MnDOT) ROW. To
put the retaining wall in will require relocating it in a couple of areas. If that is not done and if something
went wrong with the gasmain then the retaining wall and trail will have to be taken out, the gasmain
would have to be repaired, and the trail and retaining wall would be replaced. The City has control of the
relocation within the City's ROW. The City would have to work with MnDOT for any relocation within
its ROW. Part of the retaining wall would be located within MnDOT's ROW. He then explained MCES
has a cleanout structure for its existing forcemain. He noted that from his perspective that is a private
facility and MCES would be responsible for relocating it for a City improvement project. He anticipates
he will get pushback on that.
Councilmember Woodruff stated he understood Mayor Z.erby to suggest relocating the cleanout structure
and gasmain now in anticipation of a future Train Extension project because it would be less expensive to
do that as part of the MCES project rather than later.
City Engineer Homby stated there are cost advantages to doing that now as part of a much larger project.
Costs usually go up for a much smaller project. He then stated MCES will have several types of
contractors that will be involved throughout the length of the project.
Councilmember Woodruff stated it's his understanding that if the City decides to move forward with the
Trail Extension project including the retaining wall now the cost to relocate the cleanout structure and
gasmain would be borne by the owners of those structures. The City would not have any cost. Therefore,
there would not be anything to apply the balance of funds in the CIP to unless the City wants to pay the
owners to move the structures now even though there would not be an immediate need for that. He
commented he does not know why the City would want to do that.
Councilmember Hotvet asked if the gasmain has to be moved if the trail is not constructed. City Engineer
Hornby stated it does not. Hornby then stated if the trail is constructed it would have to be moved because
it would conflict with the retaining wall. Hotvet then asked what Excelsior and the City of Greenwood are
doing with regard to trails in conjunction with the MCES project. Hornby noted they do have trails along
Excelsior Boulevard in the MCES project area. Homby explained there is a trail about 4 feet wide in
Greenwood that dead ends at Manor Road. It is a heavily distressed bituminous surface. The plans do
show a trail in the MCES project plans. Hotvet asked what Excelsior is planning to do for its segment of
trail. Homby explained there is a sidewalk along Excelsior Boulevard in Excelsior. He noted that he does
not know who is paying for that.
Hotvet noted that she thought the City would make a huge mistake by not doing the Trail Extension
project in conjunction with the MCES project. The cost to retrofit a trail and retaining wall later will be
more. She expressed her support for moving forward with the Trail Extension project now in conjunction
with the MCES project.
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Councilmember Siakel stated the Trail Extension project could be done later. The current bid cost does
not take into consideration all of the infrastructure costs that would be incurred later. She clarified she has
been coming from the perspective of the priorities of trails. If there were money she questioned if it would
be better to spend it on the Galpin Lake Road segment. She agreed with relocating the cleanout structure
and gasmain now. She noted that she can go either way.
Councilmember Hotvet stated during Council's April 22 meeting she asked to find out what Excelsior and
Greenwood are doing about trails in conjunction with the MCES project. She expressed her desire that
there be more collaboration and creative approaches to the Trail Extension project. City Engineer Homby
asked if she was asking if MCES will pay for the Trail Extension project. Hotvet responded maybe
MCES could participate in the funding. Hotvet asked how Excelsior is funding its segment of trail.
City Engineer Homby explained there is an existing trail in Greenwood. It's his understanding that will be
replaced. It will not be as wide as what is being proposed for the trail segment in Shorewood. There
would be a transition to the Shorewood width after the trail crosses Manor Road. Because there is an
existing trail in Greenwood there will be some cost participation from MCES. He then explained
Excelsior has some sidewalk along Excelsior Boulevard and there will be some cost participation from
MCES because the existing infrastructure will be disturbed. He noted if the infrastructure is not being
disturbed and if it has not been in existence prior to the project MCES is not going to participate in the
cost. Councilmember Hotvet asked if anyone has asked MCES to help pay for the cost. Homby responded
yes.
Councilmember Siakel asked Director DeJong to explain the impact of doing the Trail Extension project
on the City's budget. How would the City pay for it and make up the difference? DeJong explained the
math being talked about amounts to transferring the unspent funds from the Stormwater Improvement
Fund to the Trail Fund and transferring the unspent funds from the Sanitary Sewer Fund to the Trail Fund
in order to fund part of the Trail Extension project. There is still part of the cost that is not going to be
funded. That will bring a deficit in the Trail Fund on faster. DeJong noted the current plan is to spend all
of the money in the Community hifrastructure Fund basically in the next two years. Absent transfers out
of other funds there will be no funding source for future trail segments.
Councilmember Woodruff stated the Trail Implementation Plan is a multi -year plan that extends out much
farther than two years. Yet, the Trail Fund is going to run out of money in two years. Therefore, there is a
large segment of the Plan that is not funded. The City will have to find a way to put funds into the Trail
Fund to fund other segments. Spending funds from the Trail Fund on the Trail Extension project will only
make that situation worse.
Councilmember Siakel stated in the Trail Implementation Plan there are a number of trail segments that
could be pushed out for quite some time because they are less value than the trail segment from Manor
Road to Barrington Way. She then stated if the cost to construct that trail will increase if it is delayed then
maybe there is value in seizing the opportunity and constructing it now. She asked if this segment is as
important as other proposed trail segments. If it is, it comes back to whether or not there is funding for
this.
Director DeJong stated the trail planning process needs to be taken into consideration. The Trail Planning
Committee (the Committee) identified the trail segments that were the highest priority. There were a lot
of people involved in that process. If the trail segment from Manor Road to Barrington Way did not make
into the highest priority category then he questioned the appropriateness of constructing it at this time.
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Councilmember Siakel noted she was a member of the Committee. She stated she thought there was
thought put into the prioritization. But, it was not scientific or detailed. The Committee tried to apply
common sense to the prioritization. There was not discussion about the possibility of changing priorities
if an opportunity with Hennepin County or another entity presented itself. For situations that present itself
like this, it is up to Council to decide if there should be a change in priorities.
Councilmember Hotvet noted she was also a member of the Committee. She stated no one on the
Committee was aware of the MCES' foreemain project.
Councilmember Woodruff stated the Committee developed the Trail Implementation Plan and the
Council signed off on the Plan. Priorities and a schedule were identified. At that time it was thought there
were sufficient funds to fund the projects in the Plan but there are not. The hail segment from Manor
Road to Barrington Way did not make it into the Plan. Because this opportunity presented itself Council
chose to consider that trail segment. He noted if it was going to cost the $30,000 budgeted in the CIP he
would probably support constructing it although it would be low value. But, to spend $166,000 plus the
inspection fees he does not think it is the right thing to do for the City or the residents. He stated there are
segments such as the Galpin Lake Road trail segment, the rest of Smithtown Road segment, and the
segment near the public safety facility that need to be funded.
Mayor Zerby stated from his vantage point the trail segment from Manor Road to Barrington Way is more
important than the Committee understood. It will connect residents in the southeast area of Shorewood to
Excelsior. That's a pretty big connection. The connection would also connect to the City's Skate Park.
Councilmember Woodruff stated it would not connect to the Skate Park. Zerby stated it gets people across
the road. Woodruff stated it does not; it stops at Barrington Way. Woodruff asked how far the Skate Park
is from Barrington Way. Zerby noted Barrington Way is not a heavily used road. Zerby stated it would
help people get from Excelsior to the Skate Park.
Councilmember Hotvet stated she is not of the opinion that doing the Trail Extension project will take
away from doing other trails. She then stated the balance in the CIP from the other two projects is an
important factor.
Councilmember Woodruff stated the City is running out of money in the Storm Sewer Fund.
Councilmember Hotvet stated Council was provided options of how to build the various funds up.
Woodruff stated one option is to not spend money foolishly. Hotvet noted from her perspective spending
money on that trail segment is not a foolish expenditure.
Administrator Joynes stated clearly the decision about the value of a trail segment rests with elected
officials. He noted staff has no opinion about that. He stated it is prudent Council understands that
shaping the financial picture will involve making some difficult decisions in the future about how to make
the funds whole. He clarified the cost for this trail segment does not become an issue if Council finds
other revenues to support what it wants to do. He explained that decision means that Council will have to
do some things that that will be unpopular with residents. If Council is willing to make those decisions, to
make those transfers that is within Council's purview. It is clear that spending that amount of money on
this trail segment will make those decisions more difficult. Little decisions Council makes now will have
an impact later on. He clarified he is not telling Council it cannot decide to move forward with the Trail
Extension project. But, it is his responsibility and the Staff s responsibility to inform Council that it will
have an impact. The volume of that impact has been noted.
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Councilmember Hower noted the results of the resident survey indicated that one of the most important
requests of residents was to make the community walkable. She stated the City is given an opportunity to
create a trail segment that will cost less than it will in 10 years.
Mayor Zerby reiterated the combined CIP amount for the Lift Station project and the Storm Sewer project
is $234,800 and the combined bid amount for the two projects is $131,198. That leaves a balance of
$103,620. When that balance is combined with the $30,000 in the CIP for the Trail Extension project it
comes to $133,620. That is not that far off from the $166,872 cost, not including inspection fees but
including a 15 percent contingency, to build the Trail Extension. He asked if Director DeJong would
concur that the estimate difference in funding is $40,000 — $50,000. He stated that although the difference
does impact the budget it is not a $1 million dollar impact.
Director DeJong explained there are different dedicated funding sources for the three projects. The gap in
the Trail CIP is going to be close to a $137,000 plus construction inspection fees. In order to use the
surplus funds in the Stormwater Management Fund and the Storm Sewer Fund there has to be a cash
transfer to the Trail Fund.
Councilmember Woodruff reiterated that in two years the Storm Sewer Fund will be broke
Councilmember Siakel stated it's her recollection that the last couple of audits have suggested the City
take action on its rates. Council has not done that. From her vantage point regardless of what happens
with the Trail Extension project Council does need to raise utility rates.
Councilmember Woodruff stated transferring funds from the Storm Sewer Fund to the Trail Fund to do
the project makes things worse in the Storm Sewer Fund.
Director DeJong stated at the end of the financial projections each of the funds is in a deficit state. Over
the course of the next eight years there really is not any money to move if the City is going to do the
projects identified in the CIP.
Councilmember Woodruff agreed that the resident survey indicated residents are very interested in a
walkable community. He stated there are lots of places the City could construct trails and sidewalks that
are not in the Trail Implementation Plan. He asked why the trail segment from Manor Road to Barrington
Way is so important as opposed to other opportunities included in the Plan and not included in the Plan
that there is no funding for. He reiterated constructing that segment now makes no sense to him.
Woodruff moved, Hotvet seconded, approving the construction of the Excelsior Boulevard Storm
Sewer Project improvements and the Lift Station 11 Forcemain Project improvements with the
Metropolitan Council Environmental Services cooperative project as presented in the Staff report
dated May 13, 2013. Motion passed 4/0.
Councilmember Siakel reiterated she can go either way about the Trail Extension project. She noted that
she does consider the priorities in the Trail Implementation Plan as set in stone. She also noted that she
does have some concern about the financial impact on the project. She stated she understands it is Council
responsibility to be fiscally responsible. Yet, sometimes decisions like moving forward with the Trail
Extension Project have to be made.
Siakel moved, Havel seconded, approving the construction of the Excelsior Boulevard Trail
Extension with the Metropolitan Council Environmental Services cooperative project as presented
in the Staff report dated May 13, 2013. Motion passed 3/1 with Woodruff dissenting.
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10. GENERAL/NEW BUSINESS
11. OLD BUSINESS
12. STAFF AND COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Administrator and Staff
Southshore Community Center Update
Administrator Joynes reminded Council that there is a Council work session scheduled for May 20 at 5:00
P.M. in the Council Chamber to discuss the Southshore Community Center (SSCC). To start the meeting
there will be a 15 minute presentation by the Southshore Senior Partners (SSSP). Then Council will have
a discussion about the long -term goals and vision for the SSCC. Council will be provided with
information about bookings, revenue projections, the estimate of what it would cost to have a full -time
position to manage that, and other pertinent information. He noted that Council has already been provided
with a document from SSSP about what it sees as a vision for the SSCC. He stated it's anticipated the
work session will last two hours.
2. City Owned House Update
Attorney Keane stated the City has informed the property manager for the City -owned house that the City
intends to put that property on the market. The property manager informed the tenants of that. The tenants
asked to be released a month early and the City agreed to that. It is to the City's benefit to put the house
on the market sooner versus later. He noted that he, Administrator Joynes and Building Official Pazandak
did a walk- through of the house and found the house to be in pretty good condition. The City will ask
three realtors to submit a marketing proposal to the City within the next 10 days.
Couneilmember Siakel asked if the proceeds from the sale of the property will be put into the General
Fund. Director DeJong stated the proceeds will go into whatever fund Council wants them to go into.
Siakel asked if that includes the Trail Fund. DeJong stated it would be perfectly appropriate to put the
proceeds in the Trail Fund.
Director DeJong explained that the original money to purchase the property was borrowed by the General
Fund from the Water Fund. It was repaid over five years at a rate of $60,000 per year plus interest. The
loan was paid off in 2011.
3. IT Services Update
Director DeJong stated the conversion of IT Services to HeatSeeker Technology Partners, Inc. went very
well. HeatSeeker was very thorough. The first week after the conversion there were a few minor glitches.
The Monday following the conversion there were two representatives from HeatSeeker on site. They
worked through minor issues without generating any trouble tickets. Since then a few trouble tickets have
been submitted and they were processed promptly. At the end of the first week there were five
outstanding trouble tickets and several of them have been cleared up.
Director Brown explained staff had concerns about how the previous service provider was securing the
City's backup data off site. After the conversion the City's backup data is stored off -site in two different
locations. The most critical data and applications are also available as a cloud based service. He noted that
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staff is excited about the promise HeatSeeker is providing as vision casting. It is on the cutting edge of
technology and will lead the City into some promising infrastructure changes in the future.
Mayor Zerby stated staff wisely chose the correct vendor.
4. Smithtown Road and County Road 19 Sidewalk Projects Ground Breaking —
June 10, 2013, Starting at 6:00 P.M.
Director Nielsen stated staff is suggesting Council partake in ground breaking ceremonies for the County
Road 19 trail /side walk project and for the Smithtown Road west sidewalk project prior to Council's June
10"' meeting. He explained that on May 21 there is a bid opening for the Smithtown Road sidewalk
project. During its May 28 meeting Council will be asked to award the contract for that project. Staff has
been talking about having a pre - construction meeting with the residents in the area. That may possibly
occur on June 12. He then stated the second South Lake Park Summit is scheduled for May 21.
Other
Director Brown stated Public Works has been patching potholes all winter long. It recently switched to
using hot fill. He noted Public Works is down two employees. He stated Public Works has started the
street sweeping process. There had been a problem with the sweeping equipment which kept it out of
service for a while. It is in service again. The sweeping will be done in two passes; there will be an initial
sweep of the entire City and then a more thorough sweep. It's anticipated it will take 2.5 — 3 weeks to
complete the sweeping. Once the sweeping is complete Public Works will start the hydrant flushing
process.
Mayor Zerby stated he has heard from a couple of residents that the snow plowing removed more surface
material this past season then in the past. There was comment that the blade on the truck was changed.
Director Brown explained cutting edges for the plows are the wear edges that people often see sparking
when major plow trucks are traveling on the freeway. They are very expensive. Public Works did try a
harder edge blade which under normal winter conditions would probably have fared pretty well.
Unfortunately, having to plow after the frost was out of the roadways did result in surface damage where
there were cracks. He asked Council to bear in mind that at 2:00 A.M. all the drivers see is one white
blanket and drivers have to use their good judgment as to where the edge of the roadway is. He stated a
lot of the turf damage has been cleaned up, but there is still a little more to do.
Mayor Zerby noted he has heard nothing but compliments from the residents on how the snow situations
were handled. He thanked Director Brown and Public Works personnel for their efforts.
Director Brown stated the City's spring clean -up day is scheduled for Saturday, May 18, at the Public
Works facility. It opens at 8:00 A.M. There will be a free shredding event at the City Hall parking lot
from 9:00 A.M. — Noon.
City Engineer Hornby stated there are contractors interested in the Smithtown Road west sidewalk
project. He then stated staff will contact the design services provider for the Valleywood Lane /
Valleywood Circle project and let them know what the design parameters are. Staff will also contact
Metropolitan Council Environmental Services (MCES) and inform them that the City is going to move
forward with the three projects that will be done in conjunction with the MCES' forcemain upgrade
project.
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Administrator Joynes stated aquatic invasive species (AIS) inspections at the Christmas Lake boat launch
were started on May 11. The City has put processes in place for handling the payroll for the inspections.
Mayor Zerby stated the Chri stmas Lake Homeowners Association (HOA) held its annual meeting on May
7 "'. During that meeting it awarded Leadership in Government awards to three local government units —
the City of Shorewood, the Min cludia Creek Watershed District and Carver County. The entities were
presented with an engraved crystal trophy. He thanked the HOA for the recognition and the appreciation
it expressed for the City's efforts.
B. Mayor and City Council
1. Invitation to South Lake Area Communities to Discuss Sharing Services
Mayor Z,erby stated the meeting packet contains a copy of a draft letter from him (drafted by staff) to
Excelsior Mayor Gaylord and Tonka Bay Mayor De La Vega regarding having a meeting about sharing of
services. The letter is in response to an April 25 meeting he and Administrator Joynes had with De La
Vega and Tonka Bay Administrator Kohlmann to talk about whether or not it makes sense to talk about
sharing public works services. He has also had some informal discussions with Gaylord who has
expressed interest in this as well. During the April 25 discussion they thought it best to get the City
Administrators /manager and one member of staff to talk about this. He then stated if Council agrees the
letter will be sent to the other two Mayors.
Councilmember Hotvet stated she fully supports this and she finds it to be innovative and creative. She
will be interested in hearing what the results will be.
Councilmember Woodruff stated he likes the idea. He indicated he would like staff to informally broaden
the discussion beyond public works. He then stated he is okay with sending the letter.
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Hotvet moved, Woodruff seconded, Adjourning the City Council Regular Meeting of May 13, 2013,
at 8:42 P.M. Motion passed 4/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Christine Freeman, Recorder
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