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06-12-17 CC WS MinutesCITY OF SHOREWOOD CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION MONDAY, JUNE 12, 2017 MINUTES 1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5:30 P.M. Mayor Zerby called the meeting to order at 5:35 P.M. A. Roll Call Present: Mayor Zerby; Councilmembers Johnson, Labadie, Siakel, and Sundberg; City Administrator Lerud; Director of Public Works Brown; and Engineer Hornby Absent: None B. Review Agenda Labadie moved, Sundberg seconded, approving the agenda as presented. Motion passed 510. Discussion moved to Item 3 on the agenda. 2. Erick Evenson, Executive Director Lake Minnetonka Association This was discussed after Item 2 on the agenda. Mayor Zerby introduced Eric Evenson, Executive Director of the Lake Minnetonka Association (LMA). Mr. Evenson explained the treatment of Curlyleaf Pondweed (CLP) in parts of Lake Minnetonka has just been completed. No treatment was done to the water bordering Shorewood. In 2016 Gideon Bay was treated. Milfoil has returned in the southwest corner of Gideon Bay by Manitou Channel. That area will need to be treated again in 2017. He spoke with the people at Lake Management PLM who do the herbicide treatment and they thought the treatment worked fairly well in previous years. The cleanup of Big Island will be done after Fourth of July. Consideration is being given to doing a lake cleanup of the old Bayside site. The hope is to do a second cleanup later in the season. Mr. Evenson noted that prior to his current position with the LMA he had been the Administrator for the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District (MCWD) for 16 years. Mr. Evenson explained that in the past most of the Lake Minnetonka treatments were paid for in part by property owners. Some Lake cities also made contributions toward the treatments. Some cities have been much more forthcoming than others. Early on the cities of Mound and Minnetrista helped with funding. Once the milfoil treatment of Phelps Bay was done they no longer contributed to funding the treatment of Phelps Bay. Shorewood has always contributed its fair share or more. In 2015 owners of properties that fronted Phelps Bay had committed to pay a certain amount of money toward the treatment of Phelps Bay. The treatment was done. But, some of property owners did not honor their commitments because they did not think the treatment was as effective as they thought it should CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 2 of 10 have been. The LMA came up a little more than $6,000 short. The following year the applicator did some treatment pro bono. Yet, the property owners did not pay what they had committed to pay. Mr. Evenson, on behalf of the LMA, asked Shorewood to help pay some of that shortfall. He explained that he heard that the applicator had spoken with the Bay Captain for Phelps Bay and learned that wake boarders like doing that in Phelps Bay because the Bay was somewhat free of milfoil in the middle of the Bay. The property owners decided they preferred milfoil to wake boarders. Therefore, they did not want to have the Bay treated. He noted that the Bay Captains who have tried to raise the funds for treatment are burned out. He stated he thought the only way to get the funding needed for the treatments is to establish lake improvement districts. Evenson reiterated the hope is to treat Gideon Bay again in 2017. The cost to treat the entire Bay for both CLP and milfoil is about $52,000. Of that $6,000 to $7,000 is for CLP. That will not be done in 2017. The cost to treat the entire Bay for milfoil would be around $46,000. Tonka Bay has contributed about $5,000 in the past. Excelsior has contributed $2,500 in the past. The property owners have committed $5,000 to $10,000 in the past. He asked Shorewood to contribute $5,000 this year. He clarified the entire Bay will not be treated this year because funding would not make that possible. The Bay would be spot treated. Councilmember Labadie asked if the spot treatment would be effective. Mr. Evenson cited the example of Grays Bay. The entire Bay had been treated and it has been spot treated for the last couple of years. The Bay is about 80 - 90 percent free of milfoil. Mr. Evenson commented he thought all of Lake Minnetonka could be cleared of milfoil if there was an abundance of funding. It would take several million dollars to treat the entire Lake. Councilmember Labadie asked if milfoil harvesting is still done in Lake Minnetonka. Mr. Evenson stated harvesting is not an effective way to eradicate milfoil. Herbicide treatments are the best way to do that. The herbicides are safe for humans and animals. Over the last few years the applicator has refined the application rates for applying the herbicide to kill milfoil and not kill native plants. In some areas previously treated to kill milfoil the native plants are coming back with some of them rebounding too quickly. Councilmember Labadie stated there is an abundance of CLP in some areas of the Lake. It is at the top of the water. Mr. Evenson explained the CLP life cycle is very short. CLP should be killed early in the season so it does not generate seeds for the following season. CLP does not live long; it dies relatively quickly. Labadie then stated over the last week she has noticed a significant decline in CLP. Mr. Evenson stated that is dying naturally. Mr. Evenson reiterated his request for Shorewood to contribute $5,000 toward the treatment of Gideon Bay and to contribute some funding to reduce the shortfall for previous treatment of Phelps Bay. He stated going forward property owners will have to pay up front. Councilmember Labadie asked who pays for the harvesting. Mr. Evenson noted the Lake Minnetonka Conservation District (LMCD). Mayor Zerby stated he thought the harvesting was done for navigational purposes where the most boat traffic is. Councilmember Siakel stated she has been skeptical of the CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 3 of 10 harvesting. Mr. Evenson explained that milfoil establishes itself with a piece of the plant and therefore, harvesting promotes the spread of milfoil. Mr. Evenson noted when he first heard about herbicide treatments while he was with the MCWD he was opposed to them. He explained that over the years he has gained a better understanding of how they work. The Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (MN DNR) has changed its view of the treatments; it now believes treatment is the best way to deal with milfoil. Councilmember Siakel stated she thought there is more than one way to help eradicate weeds in the Lake. Mayor Zerby noted that a lake improvement district was created for treating St. Albans Bay. Mr. Evenson noted that if 51 percent of all of the property owners who live around a bay agree a district can be created and a tax can be levied to pay for treatment. Mr. Evenson stated that once milfoil is controlled on one side of a bay property owners don't want to contribute toward treatment any more. Mayor Zerby stated he would like Council to have a discussion about funding. He does not think it is fair for just some property owners to pay for treatment. Councilmember Siakel asked about the DNB's involvement. Mr. Evenson stated the DNR is pulling back on funding. Siakel stated she thought it was a DNR issue. Lake Minnetonka is a very large recreational lake. She noted that the property owners did not create the problem of milfoil or other invasive species. She stated she does not think it is fair for the property owners to pay the entire burden. She noted she supports the City contributing toward the treatment. Mr. Evenson stated he would like the State to contribute toward the treatment. He noted at the Lake Minnetonka public launches alone there were more than 66,000 boat launches. He stated it is very likely that non - Lakeshore owners brought in zebra mussels and milfoil. He then stated there seems to be a perspective that people who own property that fronts Lake Minnetonka can afford to pay for treatment. Mayor Zerby asked Mr. Evenson when he needs to know how much, if any, Shorewood would contribute toward funding for Gideon Bay. Mr. Evenson responded early July. Zerby stated that topic will be placed on a future agenda for Council. Councilmember Labadie asked if the LMA solicits funding from businesses. Mr. Evenson responded yes and noted some contribute. Labadie asked if the LMA solicits from businesses like Minnesota Inboard which is not near the Lake. Mr. Evenson stated the LMA has not done that and noted one engineering company has been contributing. Mayor Zerby stated Lake Tahoe has special stickers for boats that go into that Lake. Can that be considered for Lake Minnetonka? Mr. Evenson stated the MCWD did that once but the DNR stopped it. Mr. Evenson stated regional inspections would be more cost effective than what is being done around Lake Minnetonka. He then stated the DNR is cutting back on its funding for inspections. He has heard second hand that the LMCD is going to cut back on its efforts. He explained the aquatic invasive species (AIS) starry stonewort, a matting plant that makes lake navigation difficult, has been found in five lakes in Minnesota. Three of those lakes are used routinely; two are remote lakes. He thought all five lakes should be quarantined. Once it gets on a boat in the lake it CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 4 of 10 stays on until the boat is pulled out of the water for 31 days or pulled off manually. Dr. Sorenson with the University of Minnesota agrees with the quarantine approach. He thought boat inspections should be done at entry points into the State because he thought AIS is brought into Minnesota from other states and going out from Minnesota to other states. Councilmember Sundberg thanked Mr. Evenson for sharing his thoughts. Mr. Evenson again asked if Shorewood would be willing to help reduce the funding deficit for Phelps Bay. He reiterated that in the past Mound and Minnetrista have mostly refused to contribute to funding treatment and the residents are done funding it. The LMA members are paying the cost. Council thanked Mr. Evenson for coming. Discussion moved to Item 4 on the agenda. 3. Perry Forester and Clair Bleser, Riley- Purgatory -Bluff Creek Watershed District This was discussed after Item 1 on the agenda. Mayor Zerby introduced Dr. Clair Bleser, District Administrator for the Riley- Purgatory -Bluff Watershed District (RPBCWD) and Perry Forester, President of the RPBCWD Board of Managers. Dr. Bleser stated the southeast corner of the RPBCWD is Silver Lake and it is located in Shorewood. She explained the water quality is still poor because of the amount of phosphorous in the Lake. The RPBCWD continues to monitor the quality. The wild rice population in the Lake is not abundant enough to qualify for looking at state standards for wild rice. The RPBCWD hosted the Silver Lake Association's first annual meeting this year. The RPBCWD's 10 -Year Water Management Plan includes future projects for Silver Lake. Mayor Zerby stated the Silver Lake fact sheet for 2016 shows that the clarity in the Lake decreased. Dr. Bleser noted it has been on a downward trend; but, it is not yet to one meter or below on average for water clarity. Zerby inquired on the Lake's current classification. Dr. Bleser explained there had been discussion about whether or not the Lake should be classified a shallow lake or a wetland. It could be either. When classification was discussed with Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) representatives, the agency that decides which classification applies to a water body, the MPCA decided to leave the classification as a shallow lake and revisit the classification in 10 years. She stated the MPCA is currently working on developing wetland standards. She noted the Lake is listed as impaired; it needs some improvement in order to meet shallow lake standards. In response to a comment from Mayor Zerby, Director Brown explained the outlet from Silver Lake is checked weekly at a minimum. If beavers are active the outlet is checked twice a day. Zerby asked if there is a different type of outlet that would be less inviting to beavers. Brown noted the existing structure is very good. The structure allows for emergency overflow as well as easy access for cleaning. Dr. Bleser provided an update on the RPBCWD's 10 -Year Water Management Plan. The RPBCWD has solicited input from the public via a survey. The Survey Monkey stated there needed to be more than 385 respondents; 409 responded. It hosted issue identification meetings with the Citizens Advisory Committee (CAC), the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC), and the Board of Managers. The TAC is made up of CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 5 of 10 representatives from member cities. The RPBCWD is currently in the process of reviewing district boundaries, identifying rule changes and writing the first draft of its Plan. The RPBCWD is going to host an informational meeting to explain its planning process and what the Plan is. The RPBCWD developed a prioritization tool to help with its planning process. The tool takes into account all of the water bodies across all three watersheds (the Bluff Creek Watershed, the Riley Creek Watershed and the Purgatory Creek Watershed). Staff worked with the CAC, the TAC and the Board to develop the tool. There is a prioritized wish list of projects but not enough funding to do them all. Dr. Bleser noted the goal is to release the Plan in late fall or early winter. Councilmember Sundberg stated she thought the process took into account the entire RPBCWD. She was pleased to see that. She asked if there is buy in for that approach. Dr. Bleser stated a concerted effort was made to balance the focus on ground water, wetlands, and lakes and creeks. Ground water and wetland are weaker elements. There are no studies that focus on all of the wetlands in the District. That will be started in the near future. Staff is starting to study ground water in sensitive areas. Dr. Bleser distributed a 2016 Yearly Update brochure summarizing what had been done. She highlighted the brochure. It included a map showing: where projects (13) were done; where cost share grants (14) were awarded; where water quality was monitored (39 sites); and, where workshops /events (13) and outreach were conducted. There was $300,000 in grants received. The RPBCWD worked with 19 partners with one of them being Shorewood. The RPBCWD was a financial partner for the floodplain study. It reviewed how many structures in the District would be at potential risk for water damage for various rainfall events. The meeting packet contained 6 maps reflecting that information. It was based on models. Dr. Bleser offered to entertain questions from Council. Councilmember Labadie asked if the cost share grants that were awarded were primarily for rain gardens and native plants along the edge of water. Dr. Bleser explained it was for shoreline restoration and rain gardens. Some cost share funds were for a reuse system for the City of Eden Prairie to use to capture rain water that comes off of a fire station roof and use it to wash firetrucks and irrigate landscaping around the station. Any elements that can help improve water quality could qualify for a cost share grant. Mr. Forester stated there is a major reuse water project with the Chanhassen High School that people that will be rebid because the bids came in too high. Dr. Bleser stated that would be a capital improvement project. The District will work in partnership with the City of Chanhassen on that project. It will funded by Chanhassen and a grant from the Metropolitan (Met) Council. Councilmember Labadie stated she thought a number of the cost share grants were for private residential projects. Dr. Bleser confirmed that. Dr. Bleser highlighted a few of the projects identified on the map in the 2016 Yearly Update brochure. She noted the RPBCWD is hosting its hands -on shoreline restoration workshop at Mitchell Lake this year. It will be done in partnership with the Mitchell Lake Homeowners Association. Dr. Bleser stated Michelle Jordan runs the RBPDWD's cost share program. She has been very active the last few months with site visits. The District teams up with the Carver County Soil Water Conservation District to provide technical assistance. She noted that for 2017 the District modified its cost share program at the city level to go up to a $50,000 grant with a 50/50 split in the total cost. CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 6 of 10 Councilmember Sundberg asked if residents around Silver Lake have been provided with the information provided to Council. Dr. Bleser stated some of the Silver Lake Homeowners Association (SLHOA) members have been able to look at the maps. The maps can be found on the District's website. Sundberg asked for an update on the RPBCWD's Board of Managers. Dr. Bleser explained each year one or two Board seats are up for appointment or reappointment. In 2017 there will be two managers that are up for reappointment; only one is seeking reappointment (President Forster). Four members are appointed by the Hennepin County Board of Commissioners and the other by Carver County. Hennepin County asks if current Board members want to reapply. When Hennepin County sends out notices of opening it notes how many, if any, current members are going to reapply. Cities within the District can forward recommendations for applicants to the County Board if they want to. To date only Eden Prairie has submitted recommendations; it sent a total of five applicants' names, all from Eden Prairie, to the County Board. Mr. Forester explained that all five applicants have never served on the District Board before. Eden Prairie actively recruited the applicants. One of the applicants is or was a member of the Eden Prairie Planning Commission, another is developer, another is a member of the RBPCWD's CAC and the others are just members of the public. Dr. Bleser stated one is a former member of the CAC. Councilmember Sundberg stated it is her understanding that Eden Prairie wants two members of the RPBDWD's Board to be from Eden Prairie because it is about 50 percent of the Watershed footprint. Dr. Bleser stated the resolution Eden Prairie submitted to Hennepin County Board indicated it was 56 percent of the District but it is only 48 percent. She has heard that a couple of the County Commissioners want two people to be from Eden Prairie. Sundberg explained that when she served on the RPBCWD Board it was dominated by the lake people. She thought communities like Shorewood did not receive much attention. Also, that is environmentally not prudent. She disclosed that when she was leaving her position on the Board because she was relocating out of the District she made a concerted effort to help get Mr. Forester reappointed as President. Mr. Forester explained that he had served on the RPBCWD Board from 1992 to 2005. He was voted in as President in 1999 because the previous Board President had had enough. He resigned from the Board in 2005 because his employer offered him his job of a lifetime which required him to move to London, England, for 1.5 years. In 2009 he received some phone calls encouraging him to re -apply for a position on the Board. After some investigation he did re- apply. When he again assumed a position on the Board efforts were underway to develop the 10 -Year Water Management Plan, The Plan was basically a lake management plan; no one wanted to worry about creeks or waters flowing into the lakes. Councilmember Sundberg noted that lake management did not include Silver Lake. Mr. Forester explained the Plan included Lake Susan, Lotus Lake, Mitchell Lake, Red Rock Lake and Lake Riley. That is all the then Board wanted to focus on. After being appointed to the Board again Councilmember Sundberg helped orchestrate him being elected to President again. It was apparent some serious changes had to be made in the administration of the Watershed District. In 2012 the then lawyer /administrator was removed, a new attorney was found and Dr. Bleser was hired. The Watershed District has really come along since 2012. He noted that he felt vindicated last fall when the RPBCWD was named the Watershed. District of the Year by the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (MN CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 7 of 10 DNR); there are 43 watershed districts in Minnesota. Some people later asked how much the RPBCW had to pay to get the award. Mr. Forester noted his name is not on the list of five names submitted by Eden Prairie for consideration by the Hennepin County Board for reappointment to the RPBCWD Board. He lives in Eden Prairie. Mr. Forester explained there are 50,000 square miles, roughly 80,000 residents, roughly 30,000 to 33,000 households in the RPBCWD. The District and the Board should be considering what it can do to benefit the entire Watershed District. From his perspective Eden Prairie wants as much money as possible to be spent on things in Eden Prairie. Unfortunately Eden Prairie does not seem to acknowledge that anything that is done in the Watershed District within the confines of the Riley Creek Watershed and the Purgatory Creek Watershed benefits Eden Prairie because Eden Prairie is the downstream recipient of it. In the late 1990s the Watershed District did a chain of lakes project in cooperation with Eden Prairie. The District paid three fourths of the cost. The project joined a number of lakes through Eden Prairie and carried the water down to Staring Lake. The Purgatory Creek Recreation Project cost was around $4 million; the District paid about three fourths of that. He noted that his property fronts Lake Riley and he has lived there since 1979. He stated he would like to serve one more term on the RPBCWD Board. He would like to help complete the 10 -year Water Management Plan. There is a huge learning curve in getting to understand what a watershed district can do. Bringing two more new people on to the Board would likely bring that effort to a halt. He noted he is also speaking to the Minnetonka and Bloomington City Councils as well. He stated he wants to represent Eden Prairie but he also wants to represent the entire District. When the watershed law was written in 1955 the author of the law, an attorney, wrote it to be apolitical. It is defined by the watershed boundaries. He thought what Eden Prairie is trying to do is an encroachment on what watershed districts should be. Members of watershed district boards should not be political. Mr. Forester stated he has lived through three 10 -year Water Management Plans; two Plans were not very good. He noted Dr. Bleser is going to present the techniques the RPBCWD used to develop its current Plan at a national water conference in November. He stated it has been a challenge to consider the needs of creeks and lakes at the same time. Mayor Zerby expressed his appreciation for the holistic approach people have taken and for Mr. Forester's years of service. He stated he would personally like to have Mr. Forester continue in his role. He asked when the application deadline is for people to apply for a position on the RPBCWD Board. Dr. Bleser stated the application deadline is July 12. If Shorewood wants to recommend someone she suggested that be done before that date. Applicants typically have to interview with the Hennepin County Board. Mr. Forester noted his term technically applies on July 31. However, it does not expire until there is a replacement for him. Mr. Forester stated on July 31, 2017, the RPBCWD is sponsoring a tour of the entire District. He encouraged members of Council to take the tour so they can see what is going on in the entire watershed. Dr. Bleser stated it is a preview of the 10 -Year Water Management Plan. Councilmember Sundberg told Mr. Forester that he will have her personal commitment. She intends on conveying that to Hennepin County Board of Commissioners Chair Jan Callison. CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 8 of 10 Mayor Zerby stated there are only two Council meetings before Council would have to recommend applicants to the County Board or to endorse someone. Councilmember Sundberg stated there are a lot of politics in play. Mr. Forester stated Eden Prairie has made it difficult for him, personally, to find out what was going on so he could tell them that he wanted to be reappointed. Dr. Bleser noted that he learned from the Hennepin County Commissioners that Eden Prairie has already met with them prior to knowing whether or not any of the RPBCWD Board of Managers wanted to seek reappointment. Mr. Forester thanked Council for their time and attention. Dr. Bleser thanked the Council as well. Dr. Bleser noted the RPBCWD sponsors a Master Water Stewards Program for people who want to volunteer. Individuals in that program go through a series of educational sessions and do volunteer work to keep up with their certification. The two Master Water Stewards from Shorewood have worked with a church on a program. Students in a fifth grade class helped do the plantings. Two of the Master Water Stewards worked with a home owner on a shoreline restoration project. It was done in a very savvy way. Mr. Forester noted the Chair of the RPBCWD CAC is a Master Water Steward. Councilmember Labadie asked if someone needs a certain educational background to become a Master Water Steward. Dr. Bleser stated the Water Master Stewards program is for anyone who has interest in protecting water resources. A person goes through an application process. The Watershed processes the application. It provides $2300 to go through the training and the applicant pays $200. This year three high school students expressed interest in the program. One from Eden Prairie High School really wanted to do it. She is building a rain garden at the High School. Labadie encouraged Dr. Bleser to reach out to some of the high schools. The Minnetonka Schools have a Presidential Service Award and a student's hours spent working with the RPBCWD could count towards achieving that Award. Dr. Bleser stated a number of Minnetonka High School students volunteer with the Watershed District. Discussion returned to Item 2 on the agenda. 4. Southshore Center This was discussed after Item 2 on the agenda. Administrator Lerud explained that during its April 10, 2017 meeting Council approved a Request For Interest (RFI) regarding the vision for and the management of the Southshore Center. The RFI was mailed directly to 12 businesses that do that type of work. It was also posted on the League of Minnesota Cities (LMC) website. The City received two responses. One response was from someone local; the other from a company in the State of Colorado. The two proposals are very different. The local person (Proposal A) had a good understanding of the facility, its history, the operation of it and its use. Her focus was on how to expand its current use and what improvements are needed to the Center. The proposal (Proposal B) from the Company was about how to guide the City through a process to clarify what the City wants to do with the Center. The Company's history has primarily been focused on recreational facilities. The CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 9 of 10 Company's proposal was a step by step process and it was open to having the City select elements of the proposal on an a -la -carte basis. Councilmember Sundberg asked if Proposal A included a budget. Councilmember Johnson responded no. Administrator Lerud stated it was about ideas. Councilmember Johnson clarified the intent of the RFI was to do what Proposal B is suggesting they get compensated for doing. He stated it is precisely what the City was asking for. He noted that in order for the City to get a better response the City needs to be out in the marketplace with a much larger brand and name. A well - established firm would have more of those. Having an article published in the Minneapolis Business Journal, for example, would generate much broader exposure of what the City wants to do. Councilmember Sundberg stated she thought getting an article published in the Business Journal would be difficult noting she has worked with people from the Journal in the past. Mayor Zerby stated this is the end of the RFI process; that is what Council agreed to pursue. He recommended scheduling another work session to discuss next steps. Councilmember Sundberg stated she would like to meet representatives from the Colorado company. That could potentially be a next step. Councilmember Siakel asked if there has been any change in public's thoughts about the Center. Should the City do a survey to find out what the community thinks or wants? Maybe the interest in the Center has declined. Mayor Zerby stated the senior population is still engaged with programs at the Center. New people are continually drawn to participate in activities. He thought the SouthShore Senior Partners are dedicated to maintaining the programs it has there. He then stated the Rotary Club he belongs to holds its weekly meeting at the Center. He thought it likely that there are other organizations that need a place to meet. He noted the City has already invested more than $1 million in the Center; the $600,000 in original investment in the construction cost of the Center plus the buyout of the other four member cities and the more than $400,000 it has put into operating the Center since the Friends dissolved). He thought it important to maximize that investment. Councilmember Siakel noted she does not have a perfect answer to what to do. She stated the City had tried having someone run and market the Center on a contract basis. She questioned the value of the RFls. Mayor Zerby stated when the contractor was hired to run the Center she was put in a difficult situation. That was at a time when the operation of the Center was transitioned to the five co -owner cities. At that time there was hostility toward Shorewood for hiring someone to run the Center. Councilmember Siakel noted she does not expect the City to make money off the Center. Mayor Zerby stated he would like for the City to lose less money operating it. Siakel concurred. Councilmember Sundberg expressed her preference for bringing in someone with an outside perspective who has experience. Someone who can help Council think beyond what is currently going on. Councilmember Johnson stated Proposal B was to help the City determine and articulate its vision for the Center. The question is does Council want the City to pay for that. Can the City do that without outside help? CITY OF SHOREWOOD WORK SESSION MEETING MINUTES June 12, 2017 Page 10 of 10 5. ADJOURN Sundberg moved, Labadie seconded, Adjourning the City Council Work Session of June 12, 2017, at 6:59 P.M. Motion passed 510. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Christine Freeman, Recorder ATTES . 96um (kk Sandie Thone, City Clerk