10-26-20 CC Reg Mtg MinutesCITY OF SHOREWOOD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2020
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
Mayor Zerby called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
Due to the Centers for Disease Control's recommendation limiting the number of people present
at a meeting, and pursuant to MN Statute 13D.02, the Shorewood City Council meeting was held
via electronic means.
A. Roll Call
Present. Mayor Zerby; Councilmembers Johnson, Labadie, Siakel, and Sundberg; City
Attorney Keane; City Administrator Lerud; City Clerk Thone; Finance Director
Rigdon; Planning Director Darling; Director of Public Works Brown; and, City
Engineer Budde
Absent: None
B. Review Agenda
Siakel moved, Labadie seconded, approving the agenda as presented.
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Zerby reviewed the items on the Consent Agenda.
Siakel moved, Labadie seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent
Agenda and Adopting the Resolutions Therein.
A. City Council Work Session Minutes from October 13, 2020
B. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes from October 13, 2020
C. Approval of the Verified Claims List
D. Authorize Purchase of Large Document Scanner/Printer/Copier
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Richard Eng, 25170 Glen Road, stated that he did not see on the EDA agenda a portion for public
comment and asked to address that during the Council meeting. He stated that this appears to
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be another example of City staff providing poor, lacking, misinformation to elected officials. He
stated that he would like to quote City Administrator Lerud from a May 2019 meeting.
Mayor Zerby asked Mr. Eng to limit his comments to questions for the Council.
Mr. Eng stated that City staff recommended purchasing 5965 Grant Street and the Council took
the word of City staff and now the City owns a half -million -dollar hole in the ground that does not
function properly. He stated that he feels, once again, City staff sold the Council a lemon. He
stated that he feels the Council has a sworn duty to ask questions of fact and he did not see that
anyone on the Council shown any initiative and be a competent elected official in this situation.
He stated that if the Council is going to rely one hundred percent on staff's recommendations,
then he feels the Council needs to clean house and bring in knowledgeable staff that will do their
due diligence.
Mayor Zerby stated that the City has changed engineering firms because they felt that was the
responsible thing to do. He noted that Council receives information independently throughout the
week by communicating with staff on a one to one basis and not just during Council meetings.
Mr. Eng stated that is his whole point, that the Council took the advice from the engineering firm
and it was bad advice. He stated that he would also like to discuss the August 24, 2020 Council
meeting regarding Resolution No. 20-089. He quoted from the minutes statements made by City
Engineer Budde and noted that the resolution passed five to zero. He stated that then at the open
house in October that the option presented and approve at the Council meeting was not available.
Mayor Zerby stated that he believes the Mr. Eng had already had conversations with Hennepin
County prior to that meeting and was already aware of their decision. Mr. Eng stated that City
staff made a recommendation to the elected officials and in reality, there was never an option to
vote on that issue. He stated that the City publicized a plan that they could not accomplish.
Mayor Zerby stated that he believes Mr. Eng is making assumptions and suggested that if he has
specific questions that he put them before the Council. Mr. Eng asked how much time and money
City staff had used to recommend this plan and asked whether they even took the time to see if
Hennepin County would even allow this recommendation before it was brought to the Council.
Councilmember Siakel stated that staff did their job and researched the issue and the Council
chose the best option that night. She stated that the Council is still in the process of looking
through all the details and noted that if Mr. Eng has a problem with the City there are two open
positions on the Council that he could have run for.
Mr. Eng stated that he would like the dates for when the City went to Hennepin County and asked
them about this project because his information says that the County didn't have any of this prior
to August 24, 2020. Mayor Zerby stated that the City held two open houses and these questions
were asked.
Mr. Eng stated that they did not get answers. Mayor Zerby stated that he disagreed and stated
that the questions were asked and answered. He noted that it may not have been the answers
that Mr. Eng was looking for, but they were answered.
Elizabeth Van 24710 Amlee Road, stated that at the last neighborhood meeting regarding Glen
Road/Manitou Lane/Amlee Road project there were many questions about where the water will
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go. She stated that there was discussion about different options and believes that the question
of where it will go once it drains west of the wetland has not been answered.
Mayor Zerby stated that he feels the City needs to make a small apology because it seems to be
confusing people that this project is still very much in motion. He stated that the project is only
about sixty percent complete, so the engineering firm is trying to answer those types of questions.
He explained that typically the City has those answers when they publicly present the final plans
and specifications, but in this project, there was an overwhelming demand to have more
participation and input during the process. He stated that the City is trying to look at all the
possible solutions for the problem and trying to design this project in a way that fits all the needs
of the State as well as the engineering requirements.
Ms. Van stated that she understands that and feels more questions are coming out because
things are changing. She stated that the time schedule was brought up at both neighborhood
meetings and that the next presentation would be done before the Council for a vote. She stated
that several people asked if that time schedule could be slowed down so they could get answers.
Mayor Zerby stated that this project began in 2007, which seems pretty slow to him.
Ms. Van stated that she feels there are a lot of questions that are still being worked out and could
not be fully answered at the neighborhood meetings and they are asking that before it is presented
for a vote that the questions be answered.
Mayor Zerby stated that when the final plans and specifications are presented to Council is when
there will be some answers and concrete solutions. He stated that the public will have the
opportunity to weigh in at time and explained that the Council will have options other than a yes
or no vote and can ask for changes. He stated that the plan needs to be finished in order to
address the questions.
Ms. Van confirmed that the citizens will have a chance to comment on this when the information
is presented to the Council. She stated that she just heard Mayor Zerby say that the City may
not take the vote right at that time and asked if she had heard that correctly.
Mayor Zerby stated that this was correct. He stated that three days before the Council meeting,
the plan and all the information will be available on-line, so there will be time for the public to look
at the information. He explained that if residents have questions once they see the plans, they
do not have to wait for the Council meeting to ask their questions but can contact staff or Council
members ahead of the meeting.
Mayor Zerby stated that he believes Council has as many questions as the residents do on this
project. He stated that until there is a proposed plan, he is not sure her questions will be able to
be addressed. He stated that she is welcome to e-mail or call both staff and the Council.
Greg Larson, stated that he didn't feel the neighborhood meeting last week was very informative.
He asked if he had heard a previous answer correctly that stated that the residents will have a
chance to comment and potentially change the design if they do not like the final presentation.
Mayor Zerby confirmed that this was correct.
Mr. Larson stated that his questions are surrounding the stormwater. Mayor Zerby stated that is
one of the biggest questions that they are trying to investigate.
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Mr. Larson stated that this process has been going on for at least a year and a half and asked
how much money the City has spent in planning and designing up until this point.
Councilmember Johnson stated that this project is one piece of a larger puzzle which is the entire
western Shorewood stormwater management plan. He stated that the City hired an independent
engineering firm to help put all the pieces together.
Mr. Larson stated that he would like to know what all that planning and designing has cost the
City up to now. He stated that he does not believe these costs have been included in the Capital
Improvement Plan and is paid as the engineering companies complete their work. Mayor Zerby
stated that the Council has heard over and over again the desire to slow down the process and
get more information which all costs money.
Mr. Larson reiterated his question regarding how much the City has spent, to date, on the design
and planning of this road project. City Administrator Lerud stated that he will get that information
to Mr. Larson and noted that the engineering fees and other related costs are included in the CIP
budget for that project.
Mr. Larson asked if the City simply added a twenty five percent fee to all projects to cover the
engineering design costs.
Councilmember Siakel assured Mr. Larson that the City follows a process and does not make
things up or spend money that it does not need to. She stated that she feels the City has always
been pretty fiscally responsible and conservative. She stated that this project was "kicked down
the road" by previous Councils, before any of the current Council was serving. She explained that
the streets are coming around for reconstruction and the conversation is beginning again. She
reiterated that the Council has followed the process and did complete a feasibility study and this
project was built into the CIP with the best guess for what it will cost.
Mr. Larson stated that he was not accusing the City of anything, he would just like to know, as a
taxpayer, how much this project has cost, to date. Councilmember Siakel stated that City
Administrator Lerud can get this information to Mr. Larson.
Kim Piroyan, 24845 Glen Road, based on the video that was provided last week, she had a few
questions that she did not get solid answers on. She stated that she would like to ask them again
in the hopes that the Council can give her a bit more guidance. She asked about widths for west
Glen Road versus east Glen Road and asked if there had been any discussion about having them
the same so the whole road would be twenty-two feet wide. She stated that she is concerned
about the number of trees that will be removed, as well as the traffic speeds through the area
after the road is widened.
City Engineer Budde stated that if there was discussion about keeping Glen Road east and Glen
Road west the same width, it would have been before his time at the City. He explained that the
direction he was given by the Council was to proceed with the twenty -two -foot width for the west
portion of Glen Road and twenty -four -foot width elsewhere.
Mayor Zerby suggested that this may be something that would be a good for Ms. Piroyan to
discuss personally with City Engineer Budde. He stated that the City does want to try to keep as
many of the trees as possible.
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Ms. Piroyan stated that her anticipation is that many of these mature maple trees will be clear-cut
as part of the project which will really change the material aesthetic of the street. She stated that
this is a project that is moving forward even though a majority of the residents in the area do not
want it. She asked if there had been any discussion about just doing a road only project and not
including water. Mayor Zerby stated that was part of the discussion months ago when they
discussed the feasibility study.
Ms. Piroyan asked if that meant that at this point, that is not something that is open as an option.
Mayor Zerby explained that there is a process to road reconstruction and stated that the Council
heard that there are a lot of issues with drainage in this area. He stated that the best way to deal
with those issues are with curb and gutter.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he has attended every neighborhood open house meeting.
He stated that Ms. Piroyan's earlier statement that a majority of people are opposed to this project
is not accurate because he has seen a lot of support for things like City water and curb and gutter.
Ms. Piroyan stated that she does not believe that is true for this project. She stated that there
may have been interest early in the process for help with the drainage issues, but now it appears
that many of those drainage issues will not be addressed. Mayor Zerby stated that he feels that
comment is purely speculation.
Ms. Piroyan stated that based on the video it stated that there would be about twenty-five percent
mitigation of water. City Engineer Budde stated that it was a resident that asked a question and
threw out the number of twenty-five percent. He stated that from an engineering standpoint, he
does not even know what a twenty-five percent mitigation of stormwater would mean and is not a
term that is used in the industry.
Ms. Piroyan asked how much water mitigation the City is anticipating as part of this project. City
Engineer Budde stated that their goal is to meet the permitting requirements which typically
means they meet the existing rate control for a two, ten and one -hundred -year storm event and
also has to provide volume reduction for the new impervious surface that is created. He explained
that this is typically one inch over the new impervious. He stated that in general, the soils in the
City are very "clay -like" and infiltrating the soils to get the volume reduction does not happen very
easily so they usually will put in a drain the under the infiltration areas and filter it out through that.
He stated that these are the bare minimum requirements that need to be met from a permitting
perspective.
Ms. Piroyan stated that it appears that a majority of the residents have concerns about drainage
and asked why the City would consider a minimum requirement for the drainage. She asked for
an explanation in layman's terms. Councilmember Siakel suggested that Ms. Piroyan call and
speak with City Engineer Budde directly to get her questions answered more clearly. Ms. Piroyan
stated that she feels this discussion is good information for the public to review. Councilmember
Siakel stated that this item is not on the Council's agenda tonight. She stated that a question is
fine, but a full discussion should not happen when it is not listed on the agenda.
4. PUBLIC HEARING
5. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
A. Andrew Myers, Candidate for Legislative Seat 33B
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Andrew Myers, 110 Sunrise Lane, Tonka Bay, introduced himself and explained that he is running
for House seat 33B. He thanked the Council for their service and noted that he had also served
in the past as a Councilmember and Planning Commissioner. He stated that he runs a solo legal
practice that represents mostly small businesses. He stated that his desire is to give back to the
District and feels his background as both a business owner and a public servant will help in the
coming months and years. He stated that he also feels that he will be both a good resource for
the voters as well as the elected officials in the area. He shared his website information which is
www.andrewmyers.com and noted that his contact information is easily accessible on that site.
He expressed his appreciation to his wife and family for supporting him in this bid for election.
B. Spring/Summer Photo Contest Winners
City Clerk Thone explained that this is the third year the City has held the photo contest and gave
an overview of the Spring/Summer Photo contest winners: People and Pets: Waiting for Sunset
submitted by Judy Voigt England; Wildlife: Barred Owl submitted by Sanford Taly; Spring Wonder:
You Said It Was Spring submitted by Phil Zumsteg; Summer Delights: Frog Island Sunrise
submitted by Mary O'Keefe; Together Against COVID: Pandemic Perspective submitted by Phil
Zumsteg. She thanked all the residents who participated and congratulated the winners. She
stated that the next photo contest is underway for Fall/Winter.
6. PARKS
A. Commissioner Mangold Report on October 20, 2020 Park Commission meeting
Commissioner Gallivan stated that Chair Mangold was unable to attend the October 20, 2020
meeting, so he will be giving the update on his behalf. He gave an overview of the October 20,
2020 Park Commission meeting as reflected in the minutes.
Councilmember Sundberg asked about usage of the parks due to COVID-19. Commissioner
Gallivan stated that he has not seen any statistics but based on conversations, he believes usage
was impacted and there was increased use in many ways. He stated that he thinks usage was
increased because people wanted to get outside, but it appears as though people were cognizant
and were social distancing appropriately. He reiterated that from a statistical standpoint, he is not
sure of the impact.
7. PLANNING
A. Commissioner Gorham Report on October 6, 2020 Planning Commission
meeting
Commissioner Gorham gave an overview of the October 6, 2020 Planning Commission as
reflected in the minutes as well as their discussion of the revisions being suggested in the Zoning
Code. Mayor Zerby thanked the Planning Commission for all the time they have dedicated to
looking over and making recommendations to the Zoning Code.
Richard Hoyt, 5710 Ridge Road, stated that he would like to make a correction to a statement
just made by Commission Gorham that the new deck is proposed to be closer to the water than
the previous deck. He stated that is untrue and they had a six-foot variance approved for the
original deck. He stated that he is trying to regain some semblance of the utility that he had to the
lake with the original variance approval.
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Mayor Zerby noted that this item is later on the agenda and explained that Mr. Hoyt would have
an opportunity at that time to speak.
B. Planned Unit Development Amendment
Applicant: Lennar
Location: 5745 Featherie Bay
Planning Director Darling explained that this application is a request from Lennar for property
located at 5745 Featherie Bay to alter the maximum height to allow the applicant to regrade the
rear -yard lot to correct a drainage issue behind the existing home. She stated that staff and the
Planning Commission recommend approval of the request.
Johnson moved, Siakel seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 20-111, "A Resolution
Approving an Amendment to the Minnetonka Country Club P.U.D. for 5745 Featherie Bay."
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
C. Variance to Shoreland Regulations
Applicant: Richard Hoyt
Location: 5710 Ridge Road
Planning Director Darling explained that the applicant requested a variance to construct a deck
that would be six feet from the ordinary high-water level of Christmas Lake where seventy-five
feet is required. She explained the location of the lot and noted that the property contains a bluff
that contains about a ninety -foot drop between the home and the shoreline. She explained that
a previous deck was demolished in a mudslide in 2014 which had a previous variance, as
mentioned by Mr. Hoyt. She noted that after the report was published, she met with the property
owner on the site and believes the proposed site has more tree cover than the pictures submitted
previously had shown. She explained that the applicant has done quite a bit of work around the
top of the bluff to reroute water away from the area to attempt to prevent a mudslide from
happening again. She stated that staff and the Planning Commission are recommending denial,
because the applicant had not met the variance criteria and did not show practical difficulties and
noted that there was one abstention.
Mr. Hoyt stated that he is simply trying to replicate what he used to have before the mudslide with
a lot less disturbance in terms of visibility and construction. He stated that if the mudslide had
never happened, he would not be here in front of the Council so he feels this is a reasonable
request. He stated that structure size is forty percent smaller than the original structure and is
not any closer to the lake than the original structure. He explained that he is also planning to
plant arbor vitae along the shoreland to increase the privacy and visibility.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she attended the Planning Commission meeting and
understands where their recommendation is coming from, however when she reads the packet,
it seems like Mr. Hoyt is just trying to replace something and find a way to maintain the enjoyment
of his property. She stated that she also lives on a property that has a steep slope and feels this
request is reasonable. She reiterated that she totally understands where the Planning
Commission is coming from, but she would be in favor of approving this variance request.
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Councilmember Johnson stated that there was a previous variance granted and the mudslide
event happened through no fault of the property owner. He stated that he is in agreement with
Councilmember Siakel that he understands the reasons for the Planning Commission's
recommendation, but would also support granting this variance request.
Councilmember Sundberg stated that she also feels this is a reasonable request. She stated that
in these situations she also likes to take a look and see how the neighbors feel about it and, in
this case, they support the request. She asked Mr. Hoyt if he was aware of any neighbors that
may oppose this project.
Mr. Hoyt stated that he does not believe so because he has spoken with his neighbors and
believes they both support it. He stated that he plans to do the same type of obfuscation from the
lake as he did with the previous deck.
Mayor Zerby asked about the foundation for the deck since there had been a previous mudslide
to ensure that it is stable.
Mr. Hoyt stated that he is working with Lake Country Builders on those plans, but have not gotten
to those types of details yet.
Siakel moved, Johnson seconded, to refer the item back to staff to draft a resolution
approving the variance request by Richard Hoyt for the property located at 5710 Ridge
Road and to bring back the resolution, with conditions, for Council consideration at the
November 9, 2020 City Council meeting.
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
8. ENGINEERING/PUBLIC WORKS
A. Accept Proposal from Davey Resource Group
Public Works Director Brown gave an overview of the proposal from Davey Resource Group. He
stated that the City has an ongoing effort to inventory and document significant trees within the
publicly owned properties. He explained that the City was chosen as a recipient of the Hennepin
County Tree Grant which means the City can take advantage of the tailor-made database system
which tracks a considerable amount of information on a compatible GIS platform. He stated that
staff has solicited a bid form Davey Tree to go out and re -inventory the 850 trees located on public
land in the City. He noted that the bid is for a total of $2,958.00.
Johnson moved, Sundberg seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 20-113, "A Resolution
Accepting Proposal from Davey Resources Group for Updates to Tree Inventory."
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
9. GENERAL/NEW BUSINESS
10. STAFF AND COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Administrator and Staff
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1. General Election Update
City Clerk Thone stated that there are eight days until the election. She stated that early voting
has been very busy and direct balloting will begin October 27, 2020 at City Hall and will be
available until November 2, 2020 at 5:00 p.m. She noted that City Hall will be open for voting on
October 31, 2020 from 10:00 a.m. until 3:00 p.m. and Monday until 5:00 p.m. She stated that all
mail -out ballots dropped off at City Hall, starting October 27, 2020 will be fed through the ballot
counters at the end of each day instead of the current courier process. She stated that City has
processed over two -thousand five hundred mail in and in person ballots and noted that about one
thousand four hundred have been in person voters at City Hall. She stated that they are
anticipating that there will be over fifty percent of Shorewood voters that vote early. She stated
that because of the seven-day period to count ballots after election day, the Council cannot have
the November 9, 2020 Canvas meeting as scheduled and will have to move it November 13,
2020.
Siakel moved, Labadie seconded, Scheduling the Canvassing meeting for November 13,
2020 at 4:00 p.m.
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
2. September 2020 General Fund Budget Report
Finance Director Rigdon gave a brief overview of the September 2020 General Fund Budget
Report and stated that overall, this is a good budget report for the City.
3. Third Quarter 2020 Investment Report
Finance Director Rigdon stated that the Third Quarter Investment Report shows that the City is in
compliance with its policies. He noted that the current market is not very favorable with regard to
yield on investments.
4. Update on Woodside Road/Lane Project
Public Works Director Brown stated that nobody is happy about the snow on the ground, but noted
that despite the snow, the contractor has poured curb on Woodside that has to cure before the
roadway can be graded. He stated that once the weather turns warmer, the hope is to get the
first layer of asphalt down on Woodside. He stated that they have been working with homeowners
on the cul de sac that have considerable drainage issues. He stated that WSB has come up with
a few design options and they will be using an underground storage chamber to drain the extra
water off but it needs to go through the Indian Affairs Office for approval. He stated that this
portion of the project may need to be completed at a different time because they are awaiting
approval. He stated that he thinks this project will be completed by about November 20, 2020,
and while he has no doubt they will get base asphalt down on it this year, the wear course may
be held off until next year because it is better to put asphalt down on a warm day than a cold day.
Councilmember Johnson asked if there would be a lip between the curb and the base asphalt.
Public Works Director Brown stated that there will be about an inch gap. He stated that the City
has faced this issue before and they make sure the plow drivers are aware of the situation to
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ensure that they stay away from the edge when there is not wear course in place and damage
the curb.
5. Shady Island Bridge Forcemain
Public Works Director Brown stated that Public Works has a new challenge and found a forcemain
or a pipe under pressure from the lift station on the far end of Shady Island Bridge. He stated that
because this is Minnesota, the City has to protect that pipe to keep it from freezing. He stated
that it has been determined that the existing heat tape does not appear to be working and now
they need to figure out how to get new heat tape into this sealed carried pipe.
Other
Public Works Director Brown stated that watermain flushing was able to be finished before the
snowfall, but sweeping was not able to be finished. He stated that if there are still some warm
days ahead, they can continue the street sweeping work.
City Engineer Budde stated that the Badger Park tennis court fencing should be installed late this
week or early next week. He stated that unless there is a nice stretch of warm weather, the
surface coating for the courts will be done next year.
B. Mayor and City Council
Councilmember Sundberg stated that she wanted to thank the City staff because she feels they
are exemplary. She stated that she hears this appreciation expressed from many citizens as well.
She stated that staff listens to people respectfully, even though they are not always treated with
respect. She stated that the staff are good fiscal managers and they all do their homework and
get into the details. She stated that staff carefully adheres to laws and ordinances and, especially
lately, have done a good job at clarifying a lot of misinformation. She stated that she thinks the
City staff is top notch and this Council and the citizens are fortunate to have them.
11. ADJOURN
Siakel moved, Johnson seconded, Adjourning the City Council Regular Meeting of October
26, 2020, at 8:40 P.M.
Roll Call Vote: Labadie, Johnson, Siakel, Sundberg, Zerby voted Aye. Motion passed.
ATTEST:
Scott erby, ayor
Sandie Thone, City Clerk