04-12-21 CC Reg Mtg MinutesCITY OF SHOREWOOD
CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
MONDAY, APRIL 12, 2021
MINUTES
1. CONVENE CITY COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
Mayor Labadie called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present. Mayor Labadie; Councilmembers Johnson, Siakel, Callies, and Gorham; City
Attorney Keane; City Administrator Lerud; City Clerk/HR Director Thone; Finance
Director Rigdon; Planning Director Darling; Director of Public Works Brown; and,
City Engineer Budde
Absent: None
B. Review Agenda
Mayor Labadie explained that she would like to postpone item 5.A., Report and Presentation by
Hennepin County Sheriff David Hutchinson to a future meeting. She would also like move item
9.D. Receive Recommendations for Fire Lanes from Park and Planning Commissions, to a work
session in the near future.
Callies moved, Johnson seconded, approving the agenda as amended.
Roll Call Vote: Johnson, Siakel, Callies, Gorham, Labadie voted Aye. Motion passed.
2. CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Labadie reviewed the items on the Consent Agenda.
Councilmember Callies noted that she had found some typographical errors which were not
substantive and asked if she should just contact City Clerk/HR Director Thone after the meeting
to point them out.
Mayor Labadie noted that since they were not substantive, she felt the best approach would be
to contact City Clerk/HR Director Thone to communicate those changes.
Johnson moved, Gorham seconded, Approving the Motions Contained on the Consent
Agenda and Adopting the Resolutions Therein.
A. City Council Work Session Meeting Minutes of March 22, 2021
B. City Council Regular Meeting Minutes of March 22, 2021
C. Approval of the Verified Claims List
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D. Approval of Hennepin Youth Sports Program Playground Grant Application,
Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-033, "A Resolution Authorizing a Grant
Application for the Redevelopment of Silverwood Park Playground at 5775
Covington Road."
E. Authorize Expenditures for Public Works Equipment, One Asphalt Hotbox
F. Accept Proposal for Safety Training, SafeAssure
Roll Call Vote: Johnson, Siakel, Callies, Gorham, Labadie voted Aye. Motion passed.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Duncan Storlev and Diane Tsari 5375 Eureka Road noted that they would like the opportunity to
speak with regard to item 5C. Patricia Hauser, Ranked Choice Voting and 9C, Discuss Options
for Wild Duck 2"d Addition Outlot A.
Mayor Labadie noted that she will give them the opportunity to comment at that point in the
agenda.
4. PUBLIC HEARING
S. REPORTS AND PRESENTATIONS
Postponed.
B. Jim Lundberg, Operations Manager LMCC
Jim Lundberg, LMCC, gave an overview of the services the LMCC offers, what they accomplished
in 2020 and what they have planned for 2021. He noted that if anyone has a complaint about
Mediacom, they should contact him at jim(DImcc-tv.org. The LMCC received a Telly Award in
2020 for their production of "Anytown USA" that provided insight into the challenges surrounding
road construction in the area. He explained that the if the City had any programming ideas for
LMCC, they can contact chris _Imcc-tv.orq for assistance. He noted that they have begun
installing 2 camera, high definition, pan/tilt/zoom recordings systems into the member cities and
explained that they can be upgraded to included a teleconferencing component. He stated that
the plan is to replace the City's equipment sometime in 2021.
Mayor Labadie thanked Mr. Lundberg for the valuable services the LMCC provides for the
community.
C. Patricia Hauser, Ranked Choice Voting
Patricia Hauser and Jeff Dinsmore, 5805 Minnetonka Drive, thanked the Council for the
opportunity to present a resolution for consideration regarding `Ranked Choice Voting'. She gave
an overview of Ranked Choice Voting (RCV) and explained how it would work. She stated that
RCV allows more people to run for office and makes elections more about the issues.
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Liz Johnson, FairVote Minnesota, reviewed a sample RCV ballot and explained that a winner
would need a majority which means 50% of the vote, plus one. She stated that because people
rank their ballot, any run off that may be necessary takes place instantly. She stated that there
are already 16% of Minnesota voters already using RCV in cities such as Minneapolis, St. Paul,
St. Louis Park, Bloomington, and Minnetonka. She reviewed what she considers as the benefits
of RCV and noted that RCV has been highly rated by voters using it. She stated that HR 89 and
SF 218 have been brought to the legislators to implement RCV for primary and general elections
for State and federal offices, but also to ensure that it will allow local jurisdictions to adopted RCV.
Mayor Labadie thanked Ms. Johnson and Ms. Hauser for presenting this information to the
Council.
Councilmember Siakel reminded Mayor Labadie that Mr. Storley and Ms. Tsari had wanted a
chance to address the Council regarding this item.
Mr. Storley stated that he has read quite a bit about RCV and as far as he can tell there is not a
downside to it. He stated that anything that can help cut out the negative campaigning and the
name calling in politics is a good thing. He stated that he would support moving to this type of
voting. Ms. Tsari stated that she is also in favor of RCV and would love to get away from situations
where she is choosing between two people that she does not want to hold office and would rather
have more choices.
Mike Melnychuk, 25360 Birch Bluff Road, stated that his research has shown that RCV can
disconnect elections from issues and allow candidates with marginal support to win. He stated
that he feels it also obscures true debate and issue driven dialogues among candidates and
eliminates genuine binary choice between the top candidates. He stated that he also feels RCV
disenfranchises voters because ballots don't include the two ultimate finalists. He stated that
there should be an opportunity to have a counter -point to RCV presented to the body.
Mayor Labadie explained that Patricia Hauser had approached her to present this matter to the
Council. She stated that she had also given her permission to invite a representative that is not
a Shorewood resident to participate to help educate Council on this issue. She stated that she
would extend the same invitation to Mr. Melnychuk or anyone else, to present an alternate point
of view. She stated that she would like to place this issue on a future work session and is hopeful
that someone representing the opposite side of the issue could come and present their
information before a deeper discussion is held.
Councilmember Callies suggested that the presentation happen at the work session and not at a
regular Council meeting and then give the Council time to discuss it in more depth. She stated
that it seems like it would be more efficient to have the presentations made at the meeting where
the Council would be discussing it rather than holding a sequence of meetings.
6. PARKS
7. PLANNING
8. ENGINEERING/PUBLIC WORKS
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A. Approve Plans and Specifications and Authorize Advertisement for Bids for
2021 Mill and Overlay, City Project 20-08
City Engineer Budde explained that in the City's CIP, they have identified a mill and overlay project
for 2021 which is intended to extend the longevity of the roadways and infrastructure in the City.
He stated that this project is generally on streets that have the poorest pavement rankings and
are identified as having higher volume. He gave an overview of the work and repair that may
happen as part of the mill and overlay project and reviewed the roadways that are included. He
explained that part of this project, the City is looking to include three new sediment sump
structures and baffles to some of the existing storm sewer around Silver Lake and noted that the
City is going after a grant from Riley Purgatory Bluff Creek Watershed to help cover some of those
costs. He noted that this project will also include the Sweetwater Curve watermain repair. He
reviewed the proposed schedule if the Council approves this plan tonight. Staff recommends
approval.
Councilmember Gorham asked if the original plan was for a mill and overlay on Peach Circle but
not, because there is interest from the residents in City water, the plans will be to reconstruct the
street. City Engineer Budde stated that the City had sent out to the residents on Peach Circle to
see if there was interest in watermain. He explained that watermain is only getting added as part
of the Strawberry Lane project, so staff decided it did not make sense to do mill and overlay now
and then come back and patch it in the near future because of watermain. He stated that there
are some known drainage issues along that stretch so he expects that the City will do a
reclamation and replace some of the curb and gutter.
Councilmember Gorham asked whether the City had ever done the pipe bursting that is planned
for the Sweetwater Curve watermain repair. Public Works Director Brown stated that the City has
not done pipe bursting but it has been done all over the Twin Cities area. He explained that it
drags a pipe through the existing pipe and bursts it, then drags a new pipe through the existing
path which minimizes the disruption to the roadway. He stated that one of the potential barriers
to this approach is proximity of utilities in the immediate adjacent area. He stated that they believe
that should not be a problem in this situation, but will require a bit of investigation to ensure that
the utility path is clean.
Siakel moved, Labadie seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-034, "A Resolution
Approving Plans and Specifications and Authorize Bidding for the 2021 Mill and Overlay
Project, City Project 20-08, and Sweetwater Curve Watermain Repair, City Project 20-11."
Roll Call Vote: Johnson, Siakel, Callies, Gorham, Labadie voted Aye. Motion passed.
B. Accept Professional Services Agreement for Enchanted Island Force Main
Replacement
City Engineer Budde explained that the City maintains a sanitary sewer force main and lift station
that services about thirty residents on Shady Island. This force main is mounted on the side of
the Shady Island bridge and last year it was found that portions of the heat tape was not
functioning the way it should and in addition, the force main itself is fifty years old and was ready
for replacement. Staff has had a number of conversations to trouble shoot what needs to be
done in this situation and have determined that the most economical solution is to replace the
system in kind. He reviewed the expected costs and noted that he believes the City will be able
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to solicit quotes because the construction costs will be less than $175,000. He stated this was
not included in the CIP but would be funded from the Sanitary Sewer Fund.
Councilmember Johnson asked if there was a way to push the schedule up because he is
concerned about weather problems if it is delayed too long. City Engineer Budde stated that he
thinks the project could be pushed up by about a month or so.
Councilmember Gorham asked what the City would have done if the force main pipe was newer.
Public Works Director Brown stated that he is not sure but hopes that the new design will ensure
that future Councils and staff will not be faced with this same situation.
Johnson moved, Siakel seconded, Adopting RESOLUTION NO. 21-035, "A Resolution to
Approve Proposal for Shady Island Force main Repair."
Roll Call Vote: Johnson, Siakel, Callies, Gorham, Labadie voted Aye. Motion passed.
9. GENERAL/NEW BUSINESS
A. Ordinance No. 577 Targeted Residential Picketing
City Administrator Lerud explained that targeted residential picketing ordinances have existed for
many years and noted that with some of the recent protests that have occurred in residential
neighborhoods in other cities, many cities who do not have such an ordinance are considering
adopting one. He stated that the proposed ordinance was shared with the City by South Lake
Minnetonka Police Chief Meehan. He stated that this proposed ordinance seeks to prohibit
harassment and intimidation directed at individual residences and their occupants as well as
neighboring properties. It does not prohibit demonstrations from going through a residential
neighborhood, nor does it prohibit a demonstration for a political rally or candidate. He stated that
it will also have no impact on demonstrations that occur on public property or commercially zoned
areas of the City. Staff has heard several comments regarding this proposed ordinance and
based on those comments, staff would like to offer an amendment to the ordinance. He stated
they would propose that "and occurring within 100 feet of the property boundary." Be added to (a)
of Section 2, Definition. Staff recommends approval of the amended ordinance.
Councilmember Johnson asked if the 100 feet language would be consistent among all the
member cities of the South Lake Minnetonka Police Department. City Administrator Lerud stated
that he is unsure if they had included that language.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she thinks the amended language is a good idea and feels that
the City could take that to the other member cities and explain the reasoning behind the addition
of this language. She stated that she has no problem with people protesting or picketing as long
as it is done in an appropriate way but does have an issue with people who seek to intimidate and
scare people. She stated that she thinks this resolution is timely and will support it.
Councilmember Callies stated that she generally agrees with the idea, but does have some
concern about whether it is necessary. She stated that she does not like having ordinances that
will be difficult to enforce or that are unnecessary, but understands the intent is to prevent
problems going forward. She stated that she does like the distance language that was proposed
by City Administrator Lerud and also noted that there is no duration or time limit included within
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the definition. City Administrator Lerud stated this point is well taken and they can take a look at
an appropriate time limit and bring back proposed language to the Council.
Councilmember Gorham stated that he understands why this is being proposed but explained
that he was against it. He stated that it ends up trying to be a balance between protecting the
privacy and tranquility of our residents but also restricts their right to collectively assemble against
something that they feel strongly about. He stated that there are already a lot of statutes in the
State that restrict riots, noise, and unlawful assembly. He stated that violent speech, obscenities
and threats are not protected speech. He noted that he would be okay with people in front of his
house, peacefully picketing.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he agrees with much of what Councilmember Gorham has
stated. He stated that he also would not have an issue with someone in front of his home
peacefully protesting but wonders if his neighbors would be, if it means that they cannot get in or
out of their street. Councilmember Gorham stated that traffic cannot be blocked or access to their
driveway or front door, nor can you trespass.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he understands what the language is designed to do, but the
reality is many times different. He stated that the neighbors of the Council members did not sign
up for to be public officials and gave the example of another situation where this may be relevant
would be if a neighbor was on a high -profile jury.
Councilmember Callies stated that it would be nice if the people protesting were respectful of
everyone's rights, but that is why these kinds of regulations have come into play because there
has not been common sense or respect used. She stated that she feels this is a bit over -broad
and the way it is written does not allow marching or standing by one or more persons in front of a
dwelling without the residents permission. She stated that she understands that you should not
be allowed to stand there and shout obscenities, but questions why one person could not stand
in front of someone's house. She explained that she feels the language is a bit too broad in its
attempt to have some common-sense regulation. Councilmember Gorham stated that he finds
the language requiring the owner's permission a bit of a high hurdle to cross and seems a bit
absurd.
Councilmember Siakel stated she thinks there is a line between protesting peacefully and
preventing intimidation. She stated that as Councilmember Johnson stated it is not necessarily
about her, what asks if it would be fair to her neighbors. She stated that the way this has been
explained to her, she is comfortable with and it would provide consistency to South Lake
Minnetonka Police Department which will help with enforcement.
Mayor Labadie noted that she is the City's representative on the Police Board and agreed that it
is beneficial to the Police Department when there is uniform language throughout the jurisdiction.
She stated that it is not mandatory that all of the member cities pass this and noted that Tonka
Bay has passed this resolution, but Greenwood and Excelsior have not yet discussed it and is on
their upcoming agendas.
Councilmember Johnson asked how much discussion has there been at the Police Board
regarding the specifics of the language in the ordinance. City Administrator Lerud stated that he
does not believe the Coordinating Committee has talked about this in great detail. He noted that
it was shared with the Operating Committee to take back to the cities. He stated that each city is
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responsible for passing its own ordinances and the request from Police Chief Meehan was that if
the cities adopted this, he asked that they be consistent.
Mayor Labadie noted that there is a Police Board coming up later in the week and offered to bring
this issue up for discussion. There was consensus to have Mayor Labadie bring this up at the
upcoming Police Board meeting.
Alan Yelsey, 26335 Peach Circle, stated that he strongly supports this resolution and the
proposed language amendment regarding distances. He stated that it is specifically about
targeted picketing of a residence and does not mean you cannot stand in front of your neighbors
door before walking in. He stated that this will protect the entire City from the unknown of who is
out there. He stated that there are angry people out there and reiterated his support for this
ordinance for the protection of the City officers, elected representatives and people in the
community who have views on any side of the issue. They should all be protected in their
residence and should have the right to the enjoyment of their residence in privacy and in safety
without worrying who the person is in front of their house that is doing something disturbing. He
stated that he believes this particular language is constitutional and would be a misdemeanor and
will let it be known that in this City people should use other mechanisms to protest rather than
targeting individual residences.
City Administrator Lerud explained that staff's goal was to, wherever possible, use language that
has been tested by the court system already. He stated that any change or addition made may
make it open for challenge and noted that the ordinance as it is in front of the Council has been
challenged and found constitutional.
Diane Tsari, 5375 Eureka Road, stated that she does not like the idea of members of the
community being picketed at their own homes because there are other people who live nearby.
She stated that if someone wants to talk to the Council or staff, they are accessible and would
hope that there could be polite, calm, and reasonable discussions. There have been events in
the area where a bunch of people come from outside the area to have big events that are very
disruptive to residents such as last fall when they could not get in or out of their neighborhood
because of something someone was doing at a home. She stated that this may be going too far
if the language included prevents people from picketing like that. City Administrator Lerud stated
that for the event Ms. Tsari was referring to last fall, that type of protest would have still been
allowed.
Councilmember Callies stated that to her, it looks like the definitions need to be tightened up a
little bit to make it clear because some sections appear to say that it is illegal for one person to be
in front of a residential dwelling unless they have permission from the owner. She stated that she
does not think that is the intent of this document, but that is what it says.
Mayor Labadie stated that what she has heard from the Council so far is that Councilmember
Callies would like a second look at this ordinance language and Councilmember Johnson would
like her to bring this up for discussion at the upcoming Police Board meeting. She asked
Councilmembers Siakel and Gorham to weigh in with their opinion. Councilmember Callies stated
that she would like to table this discussion and not take a vote on it tonight.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she had to call staff for clarification, so she understands some
of Councilmember Callies concerns. She stated that she is in favor of this, but if the language
needs to be tightened up a bit, that would be fine. She stated that the if the purpose is to have
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something that applies to all of the South Lake area and is something to be discussed with the
Police Board, she is also okay with that. She just wants to ensure that this item comes back
before the Council because she feels it is relevant, especially in today's world. She stated that
she does not want to see a decision on this item to linger for three months and wants to move it
forward at the next Council meeting. Councilmember Johnson stated that he would agree that he
does not want this to sit out there for too long either.
Mayor Labadie stated that prior to the Police Board meeting, she will discuss this matter with City
Attorney Keane
There was consensus to table discussion of this item until the next Council meeting
B. Approve Buckthorn Removal at Freeman Park Proposal
City Administrator Lerud explained that the City received a Legacy Fund Grant through the
Minnesota DNR to create a health forest and the City is proposing to remove buckthorn from a
portion of Freeman Park. The City has used goats in past years as a control measure with limited
results. This proposed work will involve cutting and removing the plant and treating the stump
with a State approved herbicide. He explained that eradicating buckthorn is a multi -year process
with this year being the most labor intensive. Staff recommends acceptance of the proposal as
presented.
Mayor Labadie applauded staff for their work to get this $50,000 grant.
Councilmember Callies stated that she supports this because buckthorn is kind of like the 'carp'
of trees and shrubs and is not a helpful vegetation. Councilmember Gorham confirmed with City
Administrator Lerud that the herbicide will be localized and not widely broadcasted.
Councilmember Siakel asked if there were alternatives to the type of herbicide that is used and
noted that some residents have brought up concerns about what will be used. City Administrator
Lerud explained that this is what Tree Trust, who does this type of work, has recommended and
clarified that the herbicide is not Round Up.
Alan Yelsey, 26335 Peach Circle, stated that he would like to see who the residents are who
actually complain about buckthorn. He stated that he would agree that buckthorn is invasive and
not the greatest thing, however, he does not believe it is necessarily the enemy that it has been
identified as. He stated that he loves that the City received a grant and the restoration of that
wooded area would be wonderful. He stated that it would also be great to create jobs locally for
things like summer jobs and noted that he really likes Tree Trust. He stated that he has no
problem with the grant or trying to restore the wooded area, but he also has no major amount of
problem with the amount of buckthorn. He stated that he loves the idea of plantings that are bee
and butterfly friendly. He stated that his concern is with putting a poison into the ground and
Round Up has been proven to be a carcinogen even though it cannot be easily proven because
of the way it breaks down. He stated that in this case it would refer to Pathfinder and this does
leech into the water and has been found in the ground water which is disclosed on the label and
they tell you not to use it in any area where there is a high-water table which is exactly where it is
being placed because the wooded area floods. He questioned why the City would choose to put
a potential carcinogen, that has been shown to cause breast tumors in mice and has been
indicated to cause problems with human reproduction, where it could get into the water table. He
stated that he would suggest that rather than the herbicide that the City bag the large stumps and
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carry away the small pieces. He stated that if the City chooses to proceed with the carcinogens,
he will take action to stop them.
Greg Larson, stated that he agrees with Mr. Yelsey to a certain degree. He stated that he has
worked hard to eliminate pesticides out of the environment. He stated that this is not Round Up
or glyphosate and is another chemical called triclopyr He stated that he has used it before and
while he is not saying people should drink it, it is not the same as Round Up and is applied directly
to the stump during the winter. He stated that he thinks it is important to remove the buckthorn
and thinks the triclopyr is almost needed to rid the woods of the buckthorn.
Diane Tsari, 5375 Eureka Road, she stated that she agrees that buckthorn needs to be removed
but she is very wary of the use of chemicals. She stated that she has pulled buckthorn by hand
in her yard, when it is small and pulls with a weed wrench when she can and has also cut big
buckthorn and has eventually had large root systems shrivel up. She explained that there are
alternatives that a bunch of people if they were given the work to do it could remove it via those
means rather than with the chemicals. Duncan Storley, 5375 Eureka Road, suggested that
perhaps the City could seek volunteers to do the work.
Mayor Labadie asked for Council input and noted that she is not an expert in this area. City
Administrator Lerud stated that he is also not an expert. The DNR states that this is an approved
product as a way to eradicate buckthorn and so does Tree Trust, who are licensed arborists are
familiar with this product and use it elsewhere, so the City is relying on their expertise.
Public Works Director Brown explained that when the City met with Tree Trust, they were very
knowledgeable and did dive into the difference between the chemicals. This product is water
based and not oil based so they explained that the risk of this propagating was minimal. He stated
that the City could check into the DNR method of bagging the roots.
Mr. Yelsey stated that he would not trust anybody about chemicals and their long-term effect on
human beings and reproduction and children because there is not yet enough evidence to judge.
This is a systemic herbicide and is a potential carcinogen. He stated that the baggies work and
asked the City to check them out and stated that it can be done quickly and simply. He stated
that he would like the City to look at every other option that does not include putting a potential
carcinogen into the soil and water.
Patricia Hauser, 5805 Minnetonka Drive, she stated that there are some entities that can be
contacted such as Beyond Pesticides and Sarah Fultz Jordan from the Xerxes Society to
comment on this issue. She stated that what she notices when walking around the neighborhoods
that there are a lot of female plants and would suggest that the City do what it can to encourage
residents to get rid of their buckthorn that has seed bearing on it. She explained that these are
the female plants that have seeds and then the birds eat it and it gets planted elsewhere. She
stated that she can pass along contact information for both Beyond Pesticides and Sarah Fultz
Jordan to City staff.
Councilmember Callies stated that the Council is relying on what experts have told the City and
to her knowledge, this product has not been shown to be a carcinogen. She stated that she
realizes that exposure to any chemical can have a negative effect, but she does not believe this
is harmful based on the information the City has been told from the tree experts as well as the
DNR. She stated that if the Council does not feel as though they have the necessary scientific
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information then it should obtain that information prior to making a decision but noted that she
would be okay with moving forward on this project.
Councilmember Gorham stated that the quote in front of the Council is valid for thirty days and
noted that he would not mind knowing a bit more about the proposed chemical before the Council
takes action.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she can see both sides. The City is relying on the arborists
and would like to know if they have used it on other projects and if so, whether there had been
any consequences as a result of its use. She stated that on one side she feels like the City needs
to deal with it because buckthorn has been a problem at Freeman Park, but the other side would
be the thought on how it can be dealt with the most effectively. She stated that she ends up going
back to the idea that they are arborists and are professionals and would ask them if there had
been any disastrous results with any of their other projects.
Councilmember Johnson stated that where he struggles is that not only is the City trusting the
expertise of the arborists, but also the DNR is offering to invest $50,000 to help the City. He
stated that the approach of targeted spraying makes him much more comfortable rather than
widespread spraying. He read aloud from the quote regarding their proper work and treatment
protocol. He stated that the City has to rely on their expertise.
Mayor Labadie asked if there were any other time restraints outside of the quote being valid for
thirty days. City Administrator Lerud stated that there is not a time crunch but there is an unknown
when the State will return the contract. He explained that the City has signed its share of the
contract but it has not yet been returned and is unsure how long that may take. He stated that
the Council could make a decision tonight, or delay it until April 26, 2021 and staff could bring
back some additional information.
Mayor Labadie stated that since the Council has raised various concerns, she would ask staff to
take direction from those concerns and bring back answers to those questions at the next Council
meeting for action. City Administrator Lerud stated that his understanding is that the Council
would like additional information about this particular product and look at getting a price for the
potential baggie program and more information on that method as a competing proposal. He
stated that he will have to check on the grant details but does not feel there will be any problem
with it if the City changes the method it uses.
Mr. Yelsey stated that he thinks the Council has come up with a good solution and noted that
people are questioning whether this chemical is safe or not and gave examples of some of the
birth defects that have been caused by subcomponents of this chemical.
C. Discuss Options for Wild Duck 2nd Addition Outlot A
Planning Director Darling explained that at the previous Council meeting, Mr. Greg Larson had
presented an idea during Matters from the Floor about the possibility of protecting Outlot A of the
Wild Duck 2"d Addition and keeping it as green space. She noted that she has heard that there
have been a -mails sent around stating that there was a townhouse development proposed for
this land and she wanted to make it clear that there have been no applications received to develop
this property, nor has anyone inquired about developing the property in the four years she has
been with the City. She explained that the property was created to be a privately owned open
space in 1975 with a condition that an easement should be recorded against the property that
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would prevent further development of the property. She noted that the easement was not
recorded by the developer and in 1986 a developer had expressed interest in developing the
property, but the Council was not inclined to approve more development. In 2002, the developer
gifted the property to the City and explained that there are some current protections for this outlot
and read aloud a portion of the Comprehensive Plan. She explained that the property was created
as open space in exchange for approval of smaller lots than would typically be allowed. She
stated that an outlot does not permit any additional subdivision of development without formal
approval to change the legal description. She stated that by acquiring the property, the City has
protected it from development. She reviewed a few options for other protections for this property
and amending the Comprehensive Plan and Zoning Ordinance.
Councilmember Gorham asked if the City amended the Comprehensive Plan how much stronger
would that be than doing the ordinance. Planning Director Darling stated that there would need
to be one additional approval through the Council and would involve more layers.
Councilmember Callies stated that she does not see the need for the City to take action because
it is open space and is owned by the City and any change would involve public process. She
stated that there is nothing imminent in this situation that needs to be protected because the land
is already being protected and reiterated that she did not think a change is needed.
Mayor Labadie stated that she agrees with Councilmember Callies. She stated that there has
been a lot of talk on social media and via e-mail about this issue, but the reality is that it is not an
issue in the sense that no one has ever approached the City about the availability of this parcel.
She stated that this parcel, at this point, is protected as it is and the City does not have any intent
of moving forward with anything. She stated that when the City was considering the possibility of
a storm water pond, it was done in a public forum where the Council took residents concerns into
consideration which is much different than the allegations that are going around the social media
stating that the City wants to develop this property and is completely inaccurate.
Councilmember Gorham stated that his earlier line of questioning was in order to understanding
the options as they stood against the leave 'as is' option. He stated that he does not see any
benefit to pursuing the other two options. Councilmember Siakel stated that she agreed and
noted that she was not aware of a Wedgewood Forest until 6 months ago when someone came
up with the term and placed in on social media. She stated that she has never heard any comment
about this parcel being developed.
Duncan Storley, 5375 Eureka Road, stated that one of the things that concerns him is that
apparently the property was deeded to the City but somehow the easement was never filed
property. He stated that he is not sure that the City really legally owns the property and would
like to see this information be filed and make sure that the original wishes are met.
Diane Tsari, 5375 Eureka Road, she stated that she understands that the Council has not seen
any inquiries into development this parcel, but she knows that it is a possibility. She stated that
she would get the most comfort by knowing that the land is permanently protected which can be
accomplished by putting a conservation easement on the parcel. She stated that a conservation
easement was used to preserve the marsh that is directly south of their home.
Greg Larson, 25535 Orchard Circle, asked if he was correct in saying that the City does not have
a zoning classification that is specific to permanently protected greenspace.
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Planning Director Darling noted that this was correct and there was not specific zoning district just
for open space but is an allowed use in almost all of the zoning districts.
Mr. Larson asked how other cities handle the protection of greenspace. Planning Director Darling
stated that they also do it with development regulations, easements and ownership. She stated
there may be one or two cities around that have a permanent open space district, but the majority
of them do not.
Mr. Larson stated that it seems to him that without that type of category then any greenspace in
the City will always be open for another Council to come in and take it away. He stated that he
would like to see the City find a way to permanently protect the greenspace in the City and should
be a special zoning area so it is more difficult for a future Council to come in and make changes.
He stated that this particular Council considered bulldozing the woods and putting in a stormwater
pond, so he does not think they can say that it is permanently protected in its current form.
Councilmember Johnson stated that he has some concern with the use of the word 'bulldoze' and
explained that as he looks at this type of project, that is not the intent he would have. He stated
that when he looked at the petition that was submitted, he saw names of people he knew and
when he contacted them to find out their concerns and explained what the City was considering
they were not as concerned and shared that they also had their own drainage concerns.
Kathy Ottum, 30 Lilah Lane, Tonka Bay, stated that she wanted to put to rest some of the
comments that she is hearing. She has lived in this location since 1973 and is a representative
for Preserve the Woods. She stated that she would like to address the comments made that the
City has been protecting this forest for all this time. She stated that she does not blame the
current Council, but about every five years or so, something comes up to take the forest and
shared some of the examples. She stated that she is excited that City Administrator Lerud shared
the easement because she has been looking for that document. She stated that according to her
attorney, the City can very easily file what is called a 'corrected deed' with a minor filing fee. She
stated that will protect things so when the current Council is gone, the land will still be protected.
Mr. Larson asked about the easement because it would seem that the plans to put in the
stormwater pond would have also been invalid because it says no excavation or topographic
changes. He asked if the easement was still valid and asked why it had not been attached to the
title and if it could be attached at this point.
Planning Director Darling stated that the easement is not valid because it was never recorded but
does not know the reason. She stated that an easement could be attached to the property which
would be valid for up to forty years. City Attorney Keane stated that he also does not know why
the easement was not prepared in a recordable form, so it could not have actually been recorded
when it was prepared, nor could it be recorded today because the signatures were not property
notarized.
Councilmember Siakel stated that she agrees with Councilmember Callies comments that if there
was anything that came up, there would be a public process put into place so the Council cannot
just one day say they are going to do something. She stated that she does not see any imminent
danger for this parcel.
Callies moved, Siakel seconded, directing that no action be taken regarding Outlot A, Wild
Duck 2"d Addition.
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Roll Call Vote: Johnson, Siakel, Callies, Gorham, Labadie voted Aye. Motion passed.
Moved to a future work session.
10. STAFF AND COUNCIL REPORTS
A. Administrator and Staff
1. 1' Quarter 2021 Investment Report
Finance Director Rigdon gave a brief overview of the First Quarter Investment Report.
Other
Public Works Director Brown stated that this is the second week of sweeping streets and noted
that weight restrictions were lifted today. Once the roadways have been swept, they will begin
flushing the watermains and both of these will proceed east to west within the City.
City Engineer Budde stated that they have been working on the final design for the Smithtown
Pond project and were notified about a month ago that the Army Corps of Engineers has claimed
jurisdiction on some of the streams and wetlands in there. He stated that the schedule did not
anticipate that and will mean that the start of the project will potentially be delayed by about four
to six months as they acquire the necessary permits from them. He stated that the contractors
he had spoken with felt it would be a good winter project anyway but noted that the Shorewood
Oaks segment could not be constructed this fall if there ends up being a six-month delay.
B. Mayor and City Council
Councilmember Siakel asked if the City would be passing on the Shorewood clean-up day again
this year. City Administrator Lerud stated that he believes it has been scheduled for May 15, 2021
and there will also be a paper shredding event held at the same time. He stated that this
information will be shared in the newsletter.
Councilmember Callies stated that she cannot serve as the liaison for the month of May for the
Planning Commission and asked if someone could fill in for her. Councilmember Gorham offered
to attend the Planning Commission meeting as the liaison.
Councilmember Callies thanked Planning Director Darling for her work on the Just Deeds project
which is where, in partnership with the University of Minnesota, lawyers are looking at where there
have been restrictive covenants on residential properties throughout the Twin Cities. She noted
that she had also completed the Respectful Workplace training.
Councilmember Johnson commended the local non-profit called Bunny Besties. He explained
that his daughter had volunteered there recently and noted that it is an organization that seeks to
help with mental illness via interactions with bunnies and encouraged people to find their
Facebook page for more information.
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Councilmember Gorham stated that he will be able to attend the Planning Commission meeting
on May 4, 2021, but noted that he would be a bit late because he is coaching at Tonka United.
Mayor Labadie stated that she and City Administrator Lerud will be attending a quarterly meeting
with the Superintendent Peterson from Minnetonka public schools and will also attend the Police
Board meeting.
11. ADJOURN
Johnson moved, Gorham seconded, Adjourning the City Council Regular Meeting of April
12, 2021, at 9:37 P.M.
Roll Call Vote: Johnson, Siakel, Callies,
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Gorham, Labadie voted Aye. Motion passed.
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