040582 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, APRIL 5, 1982
MINUTES
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:30 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Carl at 7:43 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Gary Carl, Carol Chapman, Don Goettelman, Gordon Lindstrom, Roger
Stein, Council Liaison Tad Shaw, Assistant Kathy West.
ABSENT: Conrad Schmid.
ALSO PRESENT: Arm Bronken, Northwest Associated Consultants, Inc.
APPROVAL OF MINUTE
March 1, 1982 Meeting - Stein moved for approval of Minutes as written,
Chapman seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
March 15, 1982 Meeting - Lindstrom moved for approval of Minutes as written,
Stein seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
Special March 22, 1982 Meeting - Chapman moved for approval of Minutes as writ-
ten, Stein seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
FREEMAN PARK PROPOSAL
Chairperson Carl opened the presentation with a background introduction of the
process behind the proposal. Planner Ann Bronken explained the plans describing
the physical site, surrounding areas, and the winter /summer concepts for park use.
Jerry Brenhofer, Bill Yates, and Charlie Carroll, representing South Tonka Little
League, expressed their continued interest in the Little League fields and Freeman
Park. Their association is maintaining about 300 participants and they consider
their group to have a neighborhood concept and do not foresee merging with any
other organizations. They stated a need for facilities capable of handling many
ages at one location. Discussion included the possibilities of a concession stand,
electricity and water in the park, and better maintenance of the fields.
Chairperson Carl requested documentation of the Little League's needs and usages
of park facilities to assist the City in its planning process.
Bob Hageman of East Tonka Babe Ruth mentioned a decrease in the number of partici-
pants this year but a steady need for facilities. He felt the development of
Freeman Park was encouraging and might draw more individuals into athletic programs.
Jim Heiland,25605 Smithtown Road, had questions and concerns over the development
time frame and the costs involved. A criticism of the plans was the distance be-
tween the speed skating /hockey rink and the shelter. He also suggested that the
City look into purchasing the privately owned part of the pond area. It was also
• noted by Chapman that the Little League field extends on to private property.
PARK CONtflSSION MINUTES - 2 -
APRIL 5, 1982
FREEMAN FARK PROP - CONTINUED
The issues of the entrance and park signs were discussed. For Highway 7, turn-
off lanes along the shoulder were suggested. A possible north entrance was men-
tioned. A loop road frccn Highway 7 to Eureka Road and parking space were listed
as some of the first goals. The softball fields were also important. If volun-
teer efforts could get them in, fencing was identified as the biggest cost.
Electrical power from Eureka to the building, to the BMX track, then to the.Babe
Ruth and Little League fields was discussed. No lighted activity facilities were
proposed but rather a security lighting system.
The Commission had no definite answers to the possibilities of a concession stand
or lock -up facilities but suggested the athletic associations arrange their own
concessions on a game -to -game basis.
The Park Commission pointed out that the plans were long range - perhaps the mid
1990's. The short run objective is to plan and to stimulate interest. Funding
will be the next study phase. Volunteer efforts will be solicited and LAWCON/
LCMR monies are a possible consideration. Foundation ccntributions might be
investigated.
DISCUSSION OF 1982 BMX SCHEDULE
Chairperson Carl submitted a proposed 1982 racing schedule. No set policy or pro-
cedure for scheduling events was stated but Jim Jones of Minnetonka Community Serv-
ices was mentioned as making most arrangements.
The Park Commission felt the BMX track should remain locked except -for maintenance
and race times because possible injuries when unsupervised might lead to questions
of City negligence. The Commission asked Carl, as BMX representative, to write to
the City Administrator clarifying positions of usage, safety requirements and respon-
siblity regarding the track.
Lindstrom made a mction, Stein seconded, that the Park Commission accept and send
to the City Council the BMX schedule as proposed, excluding the statement "Track
open at all times ".
The motion carried unanimously.
1982 SATELLITE FACILITIES
The costs of Satellite restroom facilities, needs for each Shorewood park site, and
the money budgeted for 1982 were discussed. Debate involved the possibilities of
the parks' heavy -use organizations such as BMX and baseball sharing more of the
cost of the facilities.
Goettelman moved, Lindstrom seconded, that the City of Shorewood order the follow-
ing number of Satellites for the times listed - allowing the Administrator to re-
move units as he deems necessary.
PARK COMMISSION MIN ES - 3 - APRIL 5, 1982
1982 SATELLITE FACILITIES - CONTINUED
LOCATION OF IT S
Crescent Beach 1
Freeman Park 1st of 3
" if 2nd of 3
" it 3rd of 3
Badger Park 1
Cathcart Park 1
Manor Park 1
TOTALS 17
The motion carried
REPORTS:
Council Liaison Tad
• March 22, 1982.
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Chairperson Carl re
discussed were:
1) Services pr
2) Group user
3) Sources of
4) Access to p
5) Money makin
Future meetings (fo
May 26, 1
Sept. 29,
Nov. 17,
Lindstrom vol
NUMBER
RENTAL
PICK -UP/
TOTAL
OF MONTHS
DATES
COST
+ DELIVERY =
COST /UNIT
3
June 1
- Aug 31
$195
+
$26 =
$221
3
May 15
- Aug 15
195
+
26 =
221
5
June 1
- Oct 31
325
+
26 =
351
5
June 1
- Oct 31
325
+
26 =
351
6
May 1
- Oct 31
390
+
26 =
416
6
May 1
- Oct 31
390
+
26 =
416
6
May 1
- Oct 31
390
+
26 =
416
34
TOTAL COST =
$2392
ously.
listed all items covered at the City Council meeting of
Park Commission Chair
eople "with Jim Jones
that the meeting was not well attended. General topics
ided to support. viable,�programs
es - adult rather than youth
come for park programs
sonnel - legal, maintenance, funding, etc.
and cost cutting
times per year):
2 at Eden Prairie - Trails and systems
982 at Chanhassen - Costs and expenditures
82 ? - no topic decided upon
to act as Carl's alternate to the Committee.
anal Railroad
Results from the last meeting were:
1) The Committ e tentatively okayed the use of the old depot as an historical
2) Discussed a
3) SLMPD comm
The use of the rail
edged receipt of a
ti- purpose use of grant funds
on problems, mostly of a patrol nature involving vehicles
right -of -way is now up to Hennepin County. Carl acknowl-
er from Jackie L. Strom regarding the abandoned railway.
PARK COMMISSION
MATTERS FROM THE FLO
- 4 APRIL 5, 1982
Golf Course
Roger Stein reported that according to two sources, a municipal course could be
profitable if managed properly. The issues of alternative uses, opportunity
costs, tax generation, public /private management, and use of the club house were
discussed. The Comission felt all the options should be seriously looked into.
Applicants to the Pa Contnission
The Commission requested that anyone interested in applying to serve on the Park
Commission submit a simple letter stating their interest and background.
AATOURNMENr
Lindstrom moved, Goe telman seconded, to adjourn!. The motion carried unaimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitl
Kathleen West, Assi:
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MEMO
TO:
FROM: Kathy West, Park Commission Assistant
Please note the following changes in the Minutes from
the April 5, 1982 Park Commission Meeting:
SHOREWOOD
DATE: 4/20/82
Page 3
Satellite Facilities - Continued
Location
Number
of Units
Dates
Freeman Park 2nd. of 3 May 15 - Oct. 4
if 3rd of 3 May 15 - Oct. 4