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082084 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MEETING MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 1984 M I N U T E S CALL TO ORDER COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 7:00 PM Acting Chairman Gordon Lindstrom called the meeting to order at 7:07 PM. ROLL CALL Present: Commissioners Lindstrom, Butterfield, Jakel, Schmid and Kooi; Council Liaison Tad Shaw and Deputy Clerk Sue Niccum Absent: Commissioners Stein (excused) and Carl APPROVAL OF MINUTES The minutes of August 6, 1984 were approved with the following corrections: Correction #1 - page #1 - TRIVESCO - #4. - correct to read "If Mr. Bruce has purchased the land from Mr. Dayton, would he consider a Contract for Deed, and if so, for how long ?" Correction #2 - page #2 - PUBLIC WORKS - THINGS TO BE DONE - Tennis Courts - Manor Park - correct to read "Public Works were requested to ............ 0 SHOREWOOD OAKS - MR. GEOFF MARTIN Mr. Geoff Martin and Engineer Tim Phenow were present to represent Shorewood Oaks. They appeared in order to discuss drainage into Freeman Park with the Commission. They made the following comments: - The size of the holding pond will be approximately 4 acres. - The normal water elevation in this area is 960 feet, in a 11 100 year storm" it would rise to 969 feet (a 11 100 year storm" was defined as: 6" of rain in 24 hours - or, according to the Engineer's textbook, 3" in 20 minutes). - The water in the holding pond would go from a 40" pipe into an 18" pipe, this would slow the release of water exiting the holding pond. - The wetlands storage basin to the east of the BMX Track is on higher ground than the proposed holding pond, therefore the water will continue to flow north, alleviating causing any additional problems in the BMX area. Commissioner's comments Gordon Lindstrom - would rather see the pond become an asset rather than a liability. He also suggested walking Freeman Park. He would want the • opinion of the City Engineer. PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 1984 page two - Con Schmid - if we know where the water is, the fields can be constructed to . drain off rapidly. - Carol Butterfield - wondered if Shorewood Oaks /Freeman Park entrances being so close would create a problem. Geoff Martin - stated that MNdot has already agreed to the plan. Commission agreed to meet September 10th at 6:30 to walk Freeman Park along with Geoff Martin and Tim Phenow of Shorewood Oaks, and the City Planner and Engineer, if he is available. POLICE BUILDING Mayor Rascop appeared before the Commission to see if they would consider allowing SLMPSD to build a new Police Department in the southeast corner of Badger Park, next to Schimmelpfennig's building. He said the Police Department is considering 3 possible sites. He asked: How the City acquired the property? If they would review the Badger Park file? What are the conditions? Are there any restrictions? Would the Park Commission look at the land in question? RAPID OIL Planner Nielsen mentioned that Rapid Oil is having a ribbon cutting ceremony to cut a ribbon of $5 bills. He wondered if the Park Commission would be interested in a donation, and in what area? The Park Commission said they would be delighted, and suggested the Century Club. BEACH SIGN Staff reported that the beach sign had been vandalized less than 24 hours after it was put up. Commission decided to replace the sign in 1985 with a metal sign, possibly covered with plexiglass, to be placed on a 4" to 6 pipe sunk in concrete. RAFT Staff reported that the raft had also been vandalized. It was in the water less than two weeks and holes were punched in three out of four floats, causing it to sink. Staff was requested to ask Don Zdrazil what can be done to make the raft unsinkable. Also to ask him to check with the Company we bought the raft from, also to find out if they will guarantee their work. PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 1984 page three 0 TONKA MENS CLUB Mr. Tony Studer and Mr. Terry Klomps were present to discuss their plans for a Little League field at Freeman Park. They told the Commission they had talked to Scott McKenzie and he would like to relocate the Babe Ruth field, as they are not satisfied with either the field or the playing conditions. They thought that this was a good idea because it would place the two Little League fields next to each other, and give them a chance to have the Little League field done by spring of 1985. Commission showed concern over the idea of moving the Babe Ruth field, as the City paid for the field, and they don't want to lose it. They would want some kind of a guarantee in writing that the Babe Ruth field would be replaced. The Commission doesn't have any problem with the idea of relocation, but did state that they are not in a position to give any financial aid. Council Liaison Shaw mentioned that it would be more sensible to put three Little League fields in the front, making the road area and parking more practical, and putting the Babe Ruth field in the back area. Commission asked Mr. Studer and Mr. Klomp they thought of the idea of building the Little League field on the BMX, leaving the Babe Ruth field the way it is for now and using Manor Park by putting the money into completing that field. That way they could use Manor next year and take their time to finish the Little League field on the BMX area. • Commission also made it clear that the City does not have the money to maintain the fields. Mr. Studer and Mr. Klomps willlook at Manor field, talk to Mr. McKenzie, and do some more checking, then get back to Commission at the September 10th meeting. JACK BRANCEL - PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT Mr. Brancel appeared before the Commission to see if he could receive the remainder of the payment for services rendered. Commission found he had made the requested improvements. Mari Kooi moved, Carol Butterfield seconded, to pay Jack Brancel the remaining amount and to refund his certified check - this is a recommendation to Council. Motion carried unanimously. TRIVESCO - PARK Carol Butterfield mentioned that there is another area for sale in eastern Shore- wood, the Johnson property selling for $40,000 and consisting of 20 acres. Commissioner Lindstrom said that the area is geographically undesirable. Commission discussed how much land would be available, if Mr. Bruce agreed to sell the land to the City. They came up with 8.1 acres, and wondered how much they would lose to the road. They also wondered if Trivesco's Outlot B could be incorporated into the park and if the land is usable for this purpose. PARK COMMISSION MEETING MONDAY, AUGUST 20, 1984 page four . Commissioner Kooi suggested deciding what was wanted in the park, and trying to see how it would fit into the available property. There was some discussion on how many new homes there would be in the three developments and a figure of 607 lots was reached. SKATING RINKS Commissioner Marty Jakel reported the following: - The free skating rink has to be moved, as the playground equipment now occupies that area. A gate must be put up at cost of approximately $356, plus labor, and this should be done before the season opens. - The metal mesh on the south end of the rink at Badger Park must be increased, for protection of free skaters. - The boards on all the rinks should be painted. It was suggested that an estimate be received from Don Zdrazil on the total cost for material and labor to put up the gate and metal mesh. SEE NEXT PAGF FOR RTInC,FT TNFORMATTON TITSCTTSSFn AT MFF.TTN(,_ 16 ADJOURNMENT Mari Kooi moved, Con Schmid seconded, to adjourn at 10:17 PM. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Sue Niccum, Deputy Clerk MAYOR Robert Rascop COUNCIL Jan Haugen Tad Shaw Alexander Leonardo Kristi Stover C OF ADMINISTRATOR CITY ` 1 Y r Doug Uhrhammer SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236 MEMORANDUM TO: MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION, CITY PLANNER FROM: PARK COMMISSION DATE: AUGUST 7, 1984 Let it be known that previously we have not made any formal recommendation. Prior to making a recommendation: 1. We need 10 or more acres in that vicinity, on or adjacent to the Trivesco property. 2. We need an income projection on dedication fees and a time line on Trivesco, Covington Vine Ridge, and Near Mountain. 3. What is Mr. Dayton's land worth and how much does he want for it? 4. Would Mr. Bruce consider a Contract for Deed, and if so, for how long? Because of the Developers need for an immediate recommendation, this is our formal recommendation: Since there is so much uncertainty about acquiring any other land in the vicinity, Carol Butterfield moved, Mari Kooi seconded, that the Park Commission's recommendation to Council is to request 10 +acres of land from Trivesco for a neighborhood park. *Please review attached Park Commission Minutes to see the action that the Park Commission has taken regarding Trivesco since March 19, 1984. cc: John Uban Trivesco Dan Vogt, City Administrator A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore