100184 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1984
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 PM
Chairman Roger Stein called the meeting to order at 7:00 PM.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Roger Stein, Commissioners Gordon Lindstrom, Carol
Butterfield, Gary Carl and Marty Jakel; Council Liaison Tad Shaw
and Deputy Clerk Sue Niccum
Absent: Commissioners Con Schmid and Mari Kooi (both called in)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Lindstrom moved, Carl seconded, to approve the minutes of September 17, 1984 as
written. Motion carried unanimously.
"FIRE LANES"
Commissioner Butterfield would like to know if any of these lanes can be dis-
posed of?
• Council Liaison Shaw said he did not believe that the City wishes to dispose of
any of them at this time.
Council Liaison Shaw read the six recommendations form the Planning Commission.
Commission discussed:
* Tonka Bay's and Deephaven's "fire lane" classifications.
x Whether marking the "fire lanes" with signs, as Tonka Bay does, will do more
harm than good by drawing people previously unaware of public use, therefore
causing more neighborhood problems.
m What the financial obligation to the Park Commission will be, to come out of
their budget.
x Problems on individual "fire lanes ":
1. #3 - Grant Lorenz - snowmobile access
2. #5 - Eureka - dock - legal problems and information necessary in deal-
ing with it.
• Leaving some "lanes" available as walking areas without maintaining them.
• Putting all "lanes" under Park Rules and Regulations but not being financially
responsible for nonfunctionable "lanes ".
0 x Possible problems caused by usage of some of these areas.
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x Council Liaison Shaw mentioned, as one possibility, three classifications:
• 1. no use
2. under park jurisdiction
3. broad use
Stein moved to recommend to Council that, as the "fire lanes" are of no use to
the Park Commission, they be turned over to the Council for a Council decision.
Commissioner Lindstrom seconded for the purpose of discussion only. Motion
died - 4 nays - 1 aye.
Carl moved, Butterfield seconded, to recommend to Council to approve the 6
Planning Commission recommendations with the following minor changes:
no change
1.
The accesses shall be
retained as public property.
no change
2.
A survey of
each "fire
lane" should be prepared.
Planning
Commission
3.
The "lanes"
shall be
defined by fences or markers.
Park
Chan &e
3.
The "lanes"
shall be
defined by fences or markers if deemed
necessary
Planning
• Commission
4.
The "lanes"
shall be
assigned to the Park Commission and be
subject to
Park Rules
and Regulations.
Park
Change 4. The lanes shall be under City Control rather than assigned
to the Park Commission and may be subject to Park Rules and
Regulations.
Planning
Commission 5. Each access shall be considered individually.
Park
Change 5. Each access shall be considered individually for feasible
lake access
no change 6. The "lanes" shall be maintained by the City.
Motion carried unanimously.
Park Commission then discussed what further steps to take after Council feedback,
such as:
x Classifications that could be changed at a later date if necessary.
x The research to be done on the three "lanes" that the Park Commission feels
might be used for special purposes, to see if the ideas are feasible.
1. Grant Lorenz
2. Eureka
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0 3. Timber Lane
A. How many lots are involved?
B. What would it take to purchase it?
C. Parking.
D. Extension of dockage for small boat dockage and launching?
E. On site inspection of Timber Lane.
"Fire Lane" History
Mr. Dale Olson Jr. was present to say he had been at the meeting when the City
gave permission to put in the dock and part of the stairway. He said that the
people involved had a garage sale to raise money, and contributed the rest out
of their pockets to pay for the dock and stairs that were put in at that time.
Mrs. Evelyn Olson was also present to comment on neighborhood problems.
RAPID OI L CONTRIBUTION TO CENTURY CLUB
Rapid Oil Company had their Grand Opening on Tuesday, September 25th, 1984.
They held a ribbon cutting ceremony and the ribbon was made up of $5 bills.
They later presented these in the amount of $100 for a contribution to the
Century Club. The Park Commission appreciated the gesture.
FREEMAN PARK DRIVEWAY
Staff reported that the driveway will be done this year. Staff also asked to
check on whether the correct curve had been put in the road.
BADGER PARK — POLICE DEPARTMENT
Commission discussed the idea of a Police Department in the northeast corner of
Badger Park. They are interested in the idea and felt that it would be beneficial
in several ways. Staff will see if someone in City Hall will check into legal
aspects.
RINKS
Close Cathcart?
A letter dated September 27, 1984 and signed by Marty Jakel, Park Commissioner,
was sent to Jerry Brenhoffer, Treasurer of Minnetonka Youth Hockey Association,
which mentioned different possible changes regarding Cathcart Park. The differ-
ent ideas, which had been discussed within City Hall, have not yet been official-
ly discussed by the Park Commission, but this will be done as soon as a reply is
received from the Minnetonka Youth Hockey Association giving some indication of
their planned use of Cathcart Rink during the 1984 -1985 season.
• Commission requested staff to provide them with all expenses relating to the City
Hockey Rinks during the last season.(i.e. flooding, repair, supplies, etc). If
there is a way to do Badger and Cathcart individually, fine, if not thatsokay.
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. Minnetonka Youth Hockey Association - Contract and Insurance
A letter was sent to Jerry Brenhoffer, Treasurer of the Minnetonka Youth Hockey
Association on September 20, 1984, by Councilman Tad Shaw, requesting the Hockey
Contract and insurance by the meeting of October 15, 1984.
Attendant's Salaries
Commission requested staff to provide them with the average possible salary by
using the budgeted amount and the total salaries for the last three seasons and
years.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
none
MEETINGS - FUTURE
Monday, October 15 -Badger Park Building
Monday, November 5
Monday, November 19
RAFT ESTIMATE
not availabe yet.
r GATE AND MESH FOR BADGER PARK RINK
Council passed expenditure. 1 estimate still needed, companies will not respond.
REPORTS
Council Liaison Shaw brought up a article he had received relating to speed
skating rinks. Commission was interested and asked that someone proceed with
the idea, to see if they qualify.
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Lindstrom moved, Carl seconded, to adjourn at 9:50 PM.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Sue Niccum
Deputy Clerk