082885 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
SPECIAL PARK COMMISSION MEETING
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 28, 1985
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Lindstrom called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM.
ROLL CALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 PM
Present: Chairman Lindstrom, Commissioners Schmid, Carl, Jakel, Kooi and Vogel;
Council Liaison Gagne and Deputy Clerk Niccum.
Absent: none
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Kooi moved, Schmid seconded, to approve the minutes as written. Motion carried
unanimously.
CATHCART RINK COMPLAINT
Mr. James Woog of 27200 West 62nd Street called Commissioner Carl. He objected
to the fact that the City is discussing postponing the building of a new hockey
rink at Cathcart Park. He said it was in the newsletter that a new rink would be
built this year (the newsletter reads "The Park Commission has made plans to add
a fire ring, repair the basketball court, and replace the hockey rink this year ").
Mr. Woog felt that putting the money into a sports orientated new park and drop-
ping plans for improving existing parks was unjust. Commissioner Carl explained
the reason in detail, stating that an unexpected opportunity had come up to partial-
ly develop a large park at minimum cost to the City and how the situation had come
about. Mr. Woog had also called Commissioner Jakel and Chairman Lindstrom (Com-
missioner Lindstrom was not home).
FREEMAN PARK DEVELOPMENT
Carl moved, Kooi seconded, to:
1. Build two soccer fields crossing and at right angles to each other (the pur-
pose being that the center of the soccer field receives little play as most
of the action takes place in the end zones, by crossing the fields, they can
be alternated and give the field a chance to rest).
2. Have the following berms designed and erected with excess fill:
#1 Four berms, one in each corner in the proposed crossed soccer field;
#2 One berm along the middle softball field, extending out of the south-
east berm for the soccer field; and
#3 One berm extending along the north side of the southernmost softball
field.
0 Motion carried unanimously. (Please see next page)
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is FREEMAN PARK - FINANCING
The projects discussed below were discussed in relation to finances for developing
Freeman Park:
Cathcart hockey rink /Manor Park warming house
Commission discussed Cathcart hockey rink Commissioner Carl felt that if funds
are available this year, the rink should be done. Commissioner Jakel said the
rink is in bad shape and should be replaced, rather than repaired.
Commission also discussed Manor Park warming house They discussed the fact
that a area resident had appeared before the Commission last year requesting a
useable shelter for skaters at Manor Park.
Lindstrom moved, Schmid seconded, to table discussion on Cathcart rink and Manor
warming house until the meeting of September 16, 1985. Motion carried unanimously.
Cathcart Park -well house
Commission put this on hold until 1986, unless excess funds become available
after other projects are completed.
Commissioner Jakel asked that crowning the soccer fields be mentioned to Engineer
• Norton.
Commissioner Kooi asked staff to inform Administrator Vogt, Engineer Norton, and
Planner Nielsen that she is available to work on the berming plan and would like
to be involved.
MANOR PARK - PARKING LOT FENCING
Chairman Lindstrom talked to Public Works Director Zdrazil. The work on the fence
will be done soon. Lindstrom estimated 160 feet of fence with posts every 10 feet,
with the posts (17) costing $6 -8. Public Works Director Zdrazil had mentioned that
he can buy 100' of 5/8" chain from Jim Miller for a cost of $60. The remaining
cost will be another 60 feet of chain at $2.69 at foot ($161.40), bolts and possibly
a post hole digger.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Park Commission Applicant- Carolyn Squires
Staff informed Commission that a letter had been received from Carolyn Squires
applying for the Park Commission vacancy.
Lindstrom moved, Kooi seconded, to invite Carolyn Squires to the meeting of
September 16, 1985. 4
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16 MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR- CONTINUED
Christmas Lake Access -Merry Lane
Administrator Vogt asked that the Park Commission give a recommendation to the
City Council.
Commissioner Lindstrom said he would like to see:
1. Report from DNR on their proposed access
2. Commission tour both sites
3. The DNR plan
He said the Park Commission has not received either a copy of the DNR proposal
or a staff report.
Carl moved, Jakel seconded, to reject the design as it exists, stating that
access would be acceptable but not as designed. The following reasons state
why the design was unacceptable:
1. Imput from local residents and staff negative.
2. Parking - could encroach upon private property causing illegal parking
problems,
3. Parking - insufficent parking, congestion
4. Traffic design insufficent - safety hazard
is 5. Road design insufficent - graved, 10' width, etc.
6. General public would be using a private road
7. Police - access and enforcement difficulty
8. Fire Department access problem
9. Maintenance difficulty - plowing, etc.
10. Vandalism problems
Motion carried unanimously.
During their discussion on the above, Commission wondered what would happen when
all three car /trailer spaces were full and more pulled in to park, how they
would turn around.
NEW PARK - NAME
Staff reported that two suggestions have been received for the new park. One was
"Shoring Park" or "Shoreing.Park" because the park is located near both Christmas
Lake and Silver Lake. The second suggestion was "Kendrick Park ", which was sug-
gested by several members of Mr. Kendricks family. They related his past history
in relation to the City.
Schmid moved, Jakel seconded, to leave the "new park name" open until a later date.
Motion carried unanimously.
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a NEW PARK
Commissioner Kooi asked staff to ask Planner Nielsen to talk to Waterford and see
if they have any extra fill. If so, could it be used in the new park. She also
asked that when Covington Vine Ridge and Near Mountain start development, if they
could contribute something toward the new park.
SEPTEMBER 16 AGENDA
Chairman Lindstrom asked staff to put the following items on the coming agenda:
1. Review "New Park" sketches
2. Manor Warming House
3. Cathcart Rink
4. Applicant - Carolyn Squires- invitation to attend
5. PCIF- Financial status
6. Freeman Park Plan
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Jakel moved, Vogel seconded, to adjourn at 9:07 PM.
is RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Sue Niccum
Deputy Clerk