110485 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1985
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 PM
Chairman Lindstrom called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Lindstrom, Commissioners Jakel, Kooi, Vogel and Squires;
Council Liaison Gagne and Park Secretary Niccum
Absent: Commissioner Schmid (excused)
NEAR MOUNTAIN
Mr. Peter Pflaum and Mr. Rick Sathre, the Engineer, were present. Mr. Sathre
explained that back in 1979 the original plan was approved, but that the market
place has changed and they have changed their plans to compensate with the change,
omitting quads completely.
The following is a quote from the development contract proposed at the time the
original plan was approved:
10. The Developer shall pay as and for the required park contributions $350.00
for each living unit to be constructed in the first construction stage,
and for subsequent stages $350.00 per unit or the cash sum per unit as
called for in the ordinance reflected as of the date the stage is approved
for construction by the City; payment for each stage to be due and owing
prior to approval of the stage by the City. In addition the Developer
shall construct the bicycle paths as shown on the preliminary plan and
shall construct a small mini park in the northeast corner of the project,
which the City agrees to take over upon completion of the park in the event
the Developer wishes to donate the same to the City.
The Developer shall in addition construct three oversite viewing stations
on Silver Lake, one at or near the eastern portion of Silver Lake, one
at the north portion of Silver Lake, and the third in the south part of
Silver Lake. The Developer shall provide access to the oversite stations
and grant to the City an easement for the use of the same by the general
public, it being understood the City will provide the access from Covington
• Road to the northernmost oversite location. The exact location of the
oversite stations shall be shown upon a plan to be filed with the City
by the Developer. The plan shall also show the type of construction and
description of the easement to be provided. Upon completion of the stations,
the Developer shall forthwith deliver to the City the public access easement.
Old
New
Single Family (Type A)
63
53
Single Family (Type B)
50
60
Townhouses (North)
20
40
• Townhouses (South)
100
120
Quads
40
none
273
273
The following is a quote from the development contract proposed at the time the
original plan was approved:
10. The Developer shall pay as and for the required park contributions $350.00
for each living unit to be constructed in the first construction stage,
and for subsequent stages $350.00 per unit or the cash sum per unit as
called for in the ordinance reflected as of the date the stage is approved
for construction by the City; payment for each stage to be due and owing
prior to approval of the stage by the City. In addition the Developer
shall construct the bicycle paths as shown on the preliminary plan and
shall construct a small mini park in the northeast corner of the project,
which the City agrees to take over upon completion of the park in the event
the Developer wishes to donate the same to the City.
The Developer shall in addition construct three oversite viewing stations
on Silver Lake, one at or near the eastern portion of Silver Lake, one
at the north portion of Silver Lake, and the third in the south part of
Silver Lake. The Developer shall provide access to the oversite stations
and grant to the City an easement for the use of the same by the general
public, it being understood the City will provide the access from Covington
• Road to the northernmost oversite location. The exact location of the
oversite stations shall be shown upon a plan to be filed with the City
by the Developer. The plan shall also show the type of construction and
description of the easement to be provided. Upon completion of the stations,
the Developer shall forthwith deliver to the City the public access easement.
PARK COfflISSION MINUTES
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1985
page two
According to Perer Pflaum, the proposed park was 4/5 acres in size.
Chairman Lindstrom said that in 1979 the Park Commission had wanted a trail around
Silver Lake. The Ridge Road neighbors were opposed to the idea, as was Near Mountain
as that would decrease their lot values. The Park Commission recommended the
Trails to Council, Council denied the Park Commission recommendation.
Commissioner Kooi asked what the value of the lots and homes would be on the east
side of Silver Lake. Peter Pflaum said the lots would run $60,000- 100,000 and
the homes ;:would run $250,000 to $400,000.
Chairman Lindstrom also said that preservation of Silver Lake was an important
issue in 1979.
Peter Pflaum said the DNR has classified Silver Lake as a natural environment
lake. He also said that the Christmas Lake Association, the Ridge Road neighbors,
and Near Mountain all agreed that no motorized activities be allowed on the lake,
only canoeing and skating. He said the lake will be protected by covenants.
Rick Sathre said they are scheduled to go before the Planning Commission on November
19th, and they would like an opinion from the Park Commission as soon as possible
so they can alter their plans accordingly.
The Park Commission replied that they no longer want the park originally proposed
for thernortheast corner. They also said they no longer want the observation
is platforms. They discussed property and /or park fees and feel they do not want
to make a decision without studying things further. They also want Commissioner
Schmid to have the opportunity to vote on the issue. The property they would
consider overlooks Silver Lake just south of Jim Bruce's "Silver Ridge" property,
which borders Covington Road on the north.
Peter Pflaum said that without access through the Bruce property, his land would
not be of any use. He suggested that either himself or Rich Sathre would be glad
to meet with the Commission and tour the property. Commission made plans to meet
Saturday, November 9th, at 9:30 A.M. on Covington Road across from the graded
area in Silver Ridge. Peter Pflaum also said he would ask Jim Bruce about his
property.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vogel moved, Kooi seconded, to approve the minutes as written. Motion carried
unanimously.
MANOR WARMING HOUSE
Commission decided they would just as soon tear the warming house down ti auae2
the cost of the ad may run more than they would receive for the warming house.
However, they will leave the choice to Administrator Vogt.
NOVEMBER LIAISON
0 Carolyn Squires has agreed to be the Liaison for November.
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 1985
page three
DEAD TREES ON PRIVATE PROPERTY
Commission got into a discussion about how hazardous some dead trees are that
stand on private property. They decided it is Council business and asked Council
Liaison Gagne if he would mention it to the Council. Commission wandered if
there was any way they could be required to take a dead tree down within two years.
They also suggested Council might put an article in the newsletter referring to
how hazardous they are.
SKATING RINKS
Staff asked questions of the Commission in order to set up the 1985 -86 skating
season. Decisions reached were:
Cathcart rink is open for use by MYHA if they wish to use it.
Saturday opening hours will be changed from 8:30 AM to 9:00 AM.
Skating ro music will take place Saturday and Sunday from 12:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m.
Musical skating will alternate, by weekends, between Cathcart and Badger rinks.
Chairman Lindstrom will talk to Gary Carl about buying his equipment.
• Commission approved the idea of rink attendants coming early weekends to clear
the rinks if the road crew is busy so that the rinks can be opened on time.
ENGINEER'S BILL FREEMAN .PARK:
The Park Commission discussed the bills from the City Engineer, and the money
that has gone down the tube. They feel that promises of the work to be done should
have been put in writing, and that they should have asked for a written firm price
from the Engineer. They would like to state, however, that although they feel
they made a big mistake in the way the issue was handled, that the City staff
was also involved and they feel that they are not the only ones that erred.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
F".reta
REPORTS
Council Liaison Gagne reported on Shorewood Oaks request for water from Boulder
Bridge and the status of the purchasing of the Murfin property behind the City
garage.
An T(11TRNMFTATT
Kooi moved, Vogel seconded, to adjourn at 9:25 P.M..
10 RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
SUE NICCUM
PARK SECRETARY