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081886 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MEETING MONDAY, AUGUST 18, 1986 M I N U T E S • CALL TO ORDER Chairman Schmid called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM. ROLL CALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 7:00 PM Present: Chairman Schmid, Commissioners Lindstrom, Jakel, Vogel and Laberee; Council Liaison Shaw and Recorder Niccum. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE Chairman Schmid led the Pledge of Allegiance. F1,A ('P0T.F. The Park Commission wishes to keep the flagpole at Cathcart Park. They want to have a flagpole at Manor Park when the new warming house /pavilion is built. At that time they will check to see if it would be cheaper to move the flagpole from Cathcart to Manor or to buy a new one to install at Manor. They discussed the fact that a flag can remain up 24 hours a day but has to be lit up. PARK COMMISSION APPLICANT James D. Andrus, of 4971 Kensington Gate, applied for a position on the Commis- sion. The Commission asked staff to write a letter to him asking for more information. SNOWMOBILE ORDINANCE The Park Commission studied ordinances from the cities of Excelsior, Wayzata, Mound, Long Lake, Tonka Bay and Orono. This was done without even looking at the Shorewood Snowmobile Ordinance. They then had Attorney Froberg prepare a first draft. At the Park Commission meeting of August 4th, 1986 they moved to accept the lst draft -as. revised:._ The:,Park'Commission makes a suggestion to the Council, mentioned at an earlier meeting, that after they accept the ordinance they present copies of it to the cities of Greenwood, Tonka Bay, and Excelsior to see if they would consider adopting it also. The idea being that if all 4 cities had the same ordinances it would benefit South Lake Minnetonka Public Safety Department in the enforcement of the ordinance in their whole area. RFP - MANOR PARK WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION The Commission reviewed Administrator Vogt's draft request for proposal and accepted it as drawn. They ask that Council have Vogt proceed with it. BUDGET The Commission reviewed and made some changes in their budget. -1- PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY AUGUST 18, 1986 page two • CATHCART PARK /SAFETY NETTING /HOCKEY RINK Jakel requested removing the netting from the 1987 budget and requested that it be done this year for safety purposes Jakel moved, Vogel seconded, to recommend to Council that they approve $500 out of the Park Capital Improvement Fund, for materials and labor of the City crew, to erect a safety net on thenorth end of Cathcart (similar to the one at Badger but without a gate) (Don's estimate for materials was $425.00). Motion carried unanimously. SEPTEMBER MEETING The Commission will only meet once in September Monday, September 15th If necessary -due to.the rush on.the football field - they will agree to a special meeting. CRESCENT BEACH The Commission discussed the dock proposed in the budget. with the following estimates: Ed Moe All Wood Dock 474 -7218 3 planks wide (35 ") $795 42' long 4 planks wide (46 ") $860 42" long • Installation First installation included in above Sue presented them Yearly upkeep -In and out /Spring and Fall flat yearly rate $650.00 Total Initial Charge 35" Wide $1445 42" Wide $1510 Crepeau Docks Steel Frame - Wood Dock 474 -6015 Section - 32' Wide x 8' Long $262 (5 Sections = $1,310) Installation First Section post - add $45 First time - $14 a section x 5 $70 Yearly upkeep -First year $70 installation $120 plus 5 x 10 = $50 After 1st year 50 x 2 = $100 Total Initial Charge ($262 x 5 = $1310) plus $45 + $120 = $1475 -2- ■ PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, AUGUST 18, 1986 page three Ecklof of Waconia 448 -5582 Installation Steel Frame — Wood Dock 2" Cedar Section 4' Wide x 10' Long 1st Section $440 3 Sections —416 x 3 = 1,248 $1688 $35 x 4 $140 (Includes hauling and cutting pipe) Yearly upkeep —($15 @ section x 4) x 2 $120 Total Initial Charge $440 + (3 x $416) + $140 = $1828 Rick Niccum 474 -4949 Installation Steel Frame — Wood Dock (Czepeau) Section 32 Wide x 8' Long $262@ (5 sections = $1310) $12 @ section x 5 = $60 if city hauls $12 @ section x 5 = $60 + $30 for hauling $90 Yearly upkeep same as above x 2 City Hauls $120 He Hauls $180 • *NOTE Mr. Niccum suggested that the City might want to purchase reconditioned docks. He said they're almost like new and would cost $185 to $200 a section, bringing total cost to $925 to $1000 instead of $1310, a dif— ference of $310 to $385. If the City is interested inthis, the docks should be purchased in the Winter. It was also suggested that the bids go up early, February or March, and that a deadline of approximately May 15th be set for installation so the dock is in when the beach opens. Park Assistant Niccum mentioned that Julie Light, Minnetonka Community Ser- vices Beach Coordinator, and Kirk McDonald, Tonka Bay City Manager, had been contacted during the process of tryingto determine a budget figure. Julie Light discussed the existing raft and referred to a memo sent to the Tonka Bay City Council members dated April 8, 1985 (see attached). Unfor- tunately Shorewood was not made aware of this at the time of the purchase of the raft. Kirk McDonald, when approached regarding putting 2 the cost of the dock in his budget, said he would discuss it with his Council but, due to a previous dis- cussion with them on this subject, felt they do not want a dock. He also men- tioned that he had talked to Mick Niccum about having a barge with a crane move the car motor that anchors the raft out farther next year and asked that we put $100 in the beach maintenance for that purpose. —3— PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, AUGUST 18, 1986 page four is The Shorewood Park Commission, after reading Julie Light'_smemo, came to the decision that they do not want the raft, and would prefer a dock. This de- cision is due to the report and the question of liability (someone jumped off the raft on Tonka Bay's raft on their other beach and broke a leg). What they propose is that if Tonka Bay is not interested in the dock, but wants to keep the raft, that Tonka Bay pay Shorewood for their half of the raft. Shorewood would take that money plus money from the sale of the other raft (unless Tonka Bay paid for 2 of that also) and put it toward the price of the dock. (This is confusing because the "new" raft that was last pur- chased is the one in storage - the "old" raft is the one that was repaired and is in the water!) The Commission proposes that Tonka Bay owns and maintains the raft and Shorewood maintains and owns the dock. They asked staff to write a letter to Kirk McDonald and the Tonka Bay City Council, stating that they do not want the dock; that they would like Tonka Bay to consider the dock and Julie Light's memo (to be attached to the letter); that if they do not want the dock if they will consider paying for 2 the raft and owning and maintaining the raft and having Shorewood own and maintain a 40' dock (dock estimates also to be enclosed with letter); and that Tonka Bay please reply by October 6th, Shorewood will be discussing it at their Park Commission meeting on October 6th at 7:00 PM and would appreciate having a representative from Tonka Bay present to join in the discussion. Anyone on the Tonka Bay Council is welcome. • PUB LIC WORKS DIRECTOR ZDRAZIL'S REQUEST TO HIRE A MAN FOR PARKS AND PLOWING The Commission would like the following information from Publics Works Di- rector Zdrazil: 1. How many hours were spent on parks last year? 2. How much time would the man spend inthe parks? Compared to Public Works? 3. Who'd pay for him? 4. Don mentioned using him for plowing, as long as the idea is to hire him for parks, will clearing the rinks come before plowing the road? FOOTBALL FIELD - BADGER PARK Jim Truax was going to check on Badger football field and Manor ballfield and give advice on how to handle them to bring them up to. spec. So far no information has been received. Commissioner Mark Laberee presented two estimates for: - removing existing poor fill on field, and piling to side so field can be completed • -200 square yards of friable loam -soil preparation and grading -4- PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, AUGUST 18, 1986 page five 46 FOOTBALL FIELD BADGER PARK - cont. -100 pounds of seed heavy - average lawn is 75 pounds per acre also the seed will be drilled in like they do for a sod field, not scattered. -heavy fertilization - once Both people who gave estimates said if it was sodded over the existing poor fill, the rocks would eventually work through to the surface. They also both said they could not emphasize enough the urgency of seeding "yesterday ", or it wont be able to be done this year. The Park Commission felt that getting it taken care of and getting the old fill off the field is whats important. They thought it possible that Aspen Excavating could be charged for removing the fill from the field and for hauling it away themselves. Lindstrom moved, Jakel seconded, to recommend to Council that they accept the bid of Wagner from Waconia: Removal of old fill $ 450.00 200 Square yds. of friable loam $2000.00 Seed and Fertilizer $ 900.00 • Motion carried unanimously. $3350.00 Both Contractors have done several football fields. MANOR BALLFIELD The Park Commission would also like to bring Manor ballfield up to spec once and for all. The City crew does not have time, equipment, or expertise to do so, therefore they would like to contract the work out. They want to do the outfield this year. They figured it will take 5,956 square yards, 165 cubic yards of soil 1 deep each 10 yard spread at an approximate cost of $1,650, seeding and fertilizing about $1,500 and $500 for aeration. Lindstrom moved, Jakel seconded, to recommend to Council that they allocate an amount, not to exceed $4,000, to bring the outfield of Manor Park ballfield up to spec. Motion carried Unanimously. The Park Commission also put an $1,100 figure in their 1987 budget, $500 for the infield, $600 for the outfield. Regarding aeration, Commissioner Jakel said he would check with the Minnetonka School District. They called and said they like to cooperate with the cities and have an aerator and tractor that the City can use anytime as long as they let them know a couple days ahead of time and bring it back in the same condi- tion it was received in. They will not charge for use. • -5- PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, AUGUST 18, 1986 page six ` COMMISSIONER JURGENS The Commission discussed Council's refusal to accept Jurgen's resignation. Chairman Schmid has been trying to contact him. The Commission will send a letter, reviewed by Chairman Schmid, Councilman Shaw, and Administrator Vogt, stating they would like to have him stay with the Commission and help them work out a solution to the football field. They want him to know that they do not harbor any hard feelings and would like to have him continue on the Commission, they feel he could contribute to the City. ADJOURNMENT Vogel moved, Jakel seconded, to adjourn at 9:45 PM. Motion carried unanimously. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Sue Niccum Park Assistant SN /slt