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011487 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14, 1987 M I N U T E S CALL TO ORDER Chairman Jakel called the meeting to order at 6:03 PM. ROLL CALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 6:00 PM Present: Chairman Jakel, Commissioners Vogel, Laberee, Christensen, Andrus, and Lindstrom (7:00 PM); Council Liaison Brancel; and Administrator Vogt. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Vogel moved, Laberee seconded, to approve the minutes of January 5, 1987 as written. Motion carried unanimously. CRESCENT BEACH DOCK DISCUSSION Kirk McDonald, Tonka Bay Administrator, and Julie Light from Community Services were present to join in the discussion. McDonald said his Council discussed the dock and raft at their meeting on Monday, January 13, 1987. The majority of the Council is in favor of abandoning the raft due to the fact that it should be in at least 9' of water and the water depth 100' straight out from shore is only 5' 3" deep, 300' out from shore the depth is only 6' 6 ". The Tonka Bay City Council would prefer to have the main tenance crews of the two cities install the dock in the spring and remove it in the fall. They discussed the issue of no diving. They talked to their City Attorney and definately want the beach posted to state this. Tonka Bay wishes to share in the decision making and continue to maintain a good relationship between themselves and Shorewood. Tonka Bay has taken into consideration the opinions expressed by Julie Light of Minnetonka Community Services and the American Red Cross. They are willing to share an expinse of between $1,000 and $2,000. They did say they would consider a used dock. Julie Light of Community Services is against a raft because of the depth. She also said a floating raft is nothing but an attractive nuisance, it attracts unqualified swimmers and moves which makes the anchoring device very available for causing injuries. She recommended a dock running down the west property line, built fairly close to the water, and starting at least 8' from shore in water shallow enough so the life guard is able to jump on and off of the dock easily. She felt the dock should have a life guard chair, a ladder, and wood decking. She would not recommend metal decking. She felt that a dock would be beneficial for swimming lessons. Julie discussed "no diving" and suggested the sign read "NO DIVING — UNDER 3 FEET DEEP ". The word "under" was stressed because she said experienced divers can do a racing dive in 3 feet of water. The Commission discussed a straight 50' dock, starting 25' from shore with wood decking, capped posts, and sitting fairly close to the water with the ability • for periodic adjustment according to lake levels. Administrator Vogt, Administrator McDonald, and Julie Light will meet and return a proposal to the Park Commission. -1- PARK COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14, 1987 page two COMMERCIAL PARK FEES The Commission discussed Shorewood's Park fees. They would like to have Sue check with other cities to see what their Commercial /Industrial fees are. NEW COUNCIL LIAISON WELCOMED Administrator Vogt introduced Barb Brancel to the Commission as the new Liaison. CITY HALL /BADGER PARK CONCEPT PLAN Administrator Vogt said the drawing of the Concept Plan would be available at the next meeting of the Park Commission. He asked that they present a formal recommendation to the Council giving them any comments and concerns that they have regarding the plan. He suggested general comments, saying the details can be discussed later. BADGER PARK FOOTBALL FIELD Administrator Vogt discussed the football field. He said Shorewood's Attorney has not heard from Aspen's attorney and no litigation has been initiated. He suggested clearing the field and disposing of the dirt, stockpiling it at Freeman or whatever. Commissioner Vogel said perhaps it could be used to start a berm in :$aftex Park. MANOR PARK WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION • Administrator Vogt said we do have a floor plan and elevation plan for a couple Minnetonka Parks. He said now is a good time to plan for building next spring and summer. SHOREWOOD OAKS Administrator Vogt said Shorewood Oaks is beginning again and is coming before the Council January 26th. He suggested the Park Commission plan now if they have any ideas regarding this project. He said the final plat could come in as soon as April 1. This would mean about $36,500 for approximately 73 lots. He also mentioned that Near Mountain is coming in with a new plat for their 10th Addition, and Waterford 2nd Addition is coming in with about 30 units. SECOND SNOWBLOWER Council approved the purchase of a second snowblower. JAKEL - RINK PAY RAISE Council approved Martey Jakel's pay raise to $5.00 hourly retroactive as of the beginning of the 1986 -1987 skating season. FREEMAN PARK BERM - REMOVING MOSOUITO BREEDING POCKETS Administrator Vogt said if the Commission wants the dirt leveled to alleviate the water pockets to let him know. The City does not have the equipment to do so. He will make arrangements for a dozer. The Commission asked Vogt to go ahead with this. They also asked him if he would ask Public Works Director Zdrazil and Planner Nielsen where they would suggest placing the dirt. -2- PARK COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14, 1987 page three COMMISSION QUESTIONS Administrator Vogt said he'd noticed that a lot of questions came up at the last meeting that could have been answered before the meeting. He suggested that in the future if a Commissioner has a question that could be answered before the meeting they contact Sue, she in turn will contact the proper source and have the answer by meeting time if possible. This will benefit the Commission by making issues move along faster and shorten meeting time. CATHCART PARK - SEWER MAIN Administrator Vogt said Metro Waste Control Commission is planning to put in a new sewer force main. It will start at the Lake Virginia lift station, run up the hill straight east, and go down West 62nd Street right past Cathcart Park. This could cause some inconvenience in reaching the park, however Vogt will suggest that Metro Waste Control do the work as soon as possible. He has requested that they put in a sewer stub for Cathcart Park free of charge. They will be tearing up the whole street and replacing it with a new one. They will have to repair any damage done. He'll see if they will throw a load of Mn Class 5 in the present drive in the area next to the warming house. In answer to a question he said Cathcart Park is in the City of Chanhassen but owned by the City of Shorewood, Commissioner Laberee mentioned that putting in the force main might create more fill for Freeman Park. SILVERWOOD PARK Administrator Vogt showed the Commission a plan form OSM showing the exact location of the well and pumphouse. He also showed them the plans for the 16' x 20' pumphouse which will have red cedar shakes and trim. He then went over a plan for the Park and, with cutouts of various proposed recreational facilities, went over various layouts. He would like to see the Park Commission create a design for the park. He mentioned that they may want to move the tennis courts down, build them into the hill, and put a berm or a wall in the back. This would prevent blocking the view of the homes on top of the hill. He also said Engineer Norton had said if they wanted to retain the pond, or part of it, they could do so. It is not a designated wetland and it would take a lot of fill in that area if a ballfield was placed there. They alsotdiscussed leaving some open area in the Northwest corner of the park. Commissioner Laberee will talk to a professor at the University of Minnesota to see if his landscape architect students would beinterested in working on a plan for Silverwood Park. He will report on the results at the February 2nd meeting. DON'S SOD SERVICE - BADGER /MANOR ESTIMATES Commissioner Laberee reported that he had talked to Don of "Don's Sod Service ". Don said his existing price is still good and if the weather cooperates he'll start in the spring. The Commission would like a current quote from "Don's Sod Service" for Badger and Manor parks. They would also like other estimates. -3- PARK COMMISSION MEETING WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 14, 1987 page four CROSS COUNTRY SKI TRAILS Commissioner Laberee reported that he had talked to the Department of Natural Resources (DNR). The money allocated for trails was not enough to begin with and the funds are long gone. If they can help in any other way they will be glad to do so. LIAISONS TO ATHLETIC ASSOCIATIONS. PARKS. STAFF, AND COUNCIL The Commission chose new liaisons to work with above. FINANCES Finances remain about the same. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR None. REPORTS None. ADJOURNMENT A motion was made and passed unanimously to adjourn. The meeting was over by 8:30 PM. (Because I was not present at the above meeting I can not give an exact time of Adjournment) RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, From notes and tape Sue Niccum Deputy Clerk /Park Assistant CITY OF MAYOR Robert Rascop COUNCIL Jan Haugen Tad Shaw Kristi Stover Robert Gagne ADMINISTRATOR Daniel J. Vogt SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD * SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236 MEMORANDUM TO: FROM: DATE: RE: PARK COMMISSION SUE NICCUM JANUARY 8, 1987 MISCELLANEOUS PARK ITEMS CRESCENT BEACH — RAFT DEPTH INFORMATION The City of Tonka Bay took measurements from shore and came up with the following figures: 18 1 25 "' from shore ............. 1 foot 2 inches ......... (14 11 ) 50' from shore ............. 1 foot 7 inches ......... (19 11 ) 75' from shore ............. 3 feet 5 inches ......... (41 11 ) 100' from shore, ............. 5 feet 3 inches ......... (63 11 ) 300' from shore ............. 6 feet 6 inches ......... (78 11 ) If you recall the discussion at the meeting of January 5, 1987, Julie Light of Community Services had passed along the American Red Cross recommendation that a raft be in 9' or more of water at all times. NEAR MOUNTAIN PARK FEES Planner Nielsen said these fees are paid up to date. This includes the first development area discussed at the meeting. COMMERCIAL PARK FEE The commercial park fee is: $500 per each 20,000 sq. ft. of land area. POLICE — CHECKING CATHCART RINK I talked to John Hodgdon of SLMPSD and asked if they could swing by the rink at Cathcart whenever they're in the neighborhood, and at least once on Friday and Staurday nights. I -lso explained the alcohol problem. He said to have attendants call police to deal with problems like this right away. He will put it into the log to check the rink. A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore PARK MEMO JANUARY 8, 2987 page two BERMS - FREEMAN PARK Administrator Vogt said the City does not have the equipment to "shape" the berms. The work would have to be contracted out. Public Works Director Zdrazil agrees with Administrator Vogt. FREEMAN PARK ENTRANCE AND GATES PLAN Planner Nielsen said he would draw up a plan. He will go out to the park and look it over. He will also ask SLMPSD's opinion. He would like to appear at the 1st meeting in February to discuss it with the Commission. WALKING TRAILS - FREEMAN PARK Don't forget ...... weather permitting Saturday, January 17th ....... staking the walking trail ........ anyone who wishes to be present ....... Chairman Jakel will call you.