030287 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 2, 1987
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Jakel called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM.
ROLL CALL
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 PM
Present: Chairman Jakel, Commissioners Vogel, Lindstrom, Christensen, and Nicol
(7:30), Council Liai50it Brancel, Administrator Vogt, and Deputy Clerk
Niccum
Absent: Commissioners Laberee and Andrus
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Vogel moved, Lindstrom seconded, to approve the minutes of February 18, 1987, as
written. Motion carried unanimously.
CRESCENT BEACH DOCK
Tonka Bay's Administrator, Kirk McDonald, and a Tonka Bay Council member, Kent Ottum,
were present to discuss a dock for Crescent Beach. McDonald said they want to co-
operate with Shorewood to reach a decision. Ottum said that Tonka Bay favors Serv-
A- Dock's "Gale -A- Dock ". They compared "Crepeau" and Galv -A -Dock and felt that
"Gale -A- Dock" had 3 major enhancements over Crepeau;
1. Everything is galvanized on "Gale -A- Dock ".
2. "Crepeau" - 40,000 lb. tensile strength vs. "Galy -A- Dock" - 60,000 lb. tensile
strength.
3. Additional tooling is done on "Gale -A- Dock" to make the weld strength stronger.
The Commission reviewed the two docks and discussed prices. Administrator Vogt
said a lot of staff time and effort had gone into getting the material together.
Commissioner Christensen stated he was the one who recommended "Crepeau" as he has
had one for a number of years and had good luck with it. He said he did go out
to Sery -A -Dock and compare the two docks. He made the statement that he felt co-
operation was important.
Christensen moved, Vogel seconded, to recommend to Council that they approve the
following recommendations, all of which have been agreed upon by the Shorewood Park
Commission and the Tonka Bay City Council: The purchase of "Gale -A- Dock" by Serv-
A -Dock, signage relating to "no diving" and stating the depth of "under 3 feet ",
and also any additional required equipment. Motion carried unanimously.
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 2, 1987
page 2
• SILVERWOOD PARK MWCC TEMPORARY EASEMENT
Administrator Vogt was present to explain that MWCC wishes a temporary easement in
Silverwood Park to pile pipe and /or excess dirt. He explained their reason for
requesting the easement, they wish to run a sewer line parallel to the existing
line. This is to relieve pressure on the existing line because it is overloaded
at this time. He said the easement of 6,946 feet has already been discussed by
the Council. The work for MWCC will be done by Bonestroo and Assoc. Their engineer
and Shorewood's engineer will be "on site" when the easement is staked. He reminded
the Commission that the easement will appear larger due to the right -of -way. They
will seed and put mulch in the area when they are finished.
Chairman Jakel asked about the time frame. Administrator Vogt said that a pre -
construction meeting will take place Tuesday, March 3rd. It will probably take
about a month for construction and possibly be finished in two months. They want
to get an early spring start. September 30th, 1987 is the expiration date on the
easement.
Commissioner Lindstrom asked if there would be any extra fill. Vogt said he doubted
if there would be any.
Chairman Jakel asked if there would be a possibility of a sewer hook -up. Administrator
Vogt will discuss it with the City Engineer.
Vogel moved, Jakel seconded, to recommend to Council that the easement be granted
with the following requests:
1. Construction storage be strictly limited to easement area.
2. That the area be marked by stakes or lathes with yellow ribbon.
3. That the construction equipment stay within the marked boundaries.
4. That a sewer stub be extended onto park property.
NEW COMMISSIONER, BOB NICOL, WELCOMED
The Commission welcomed Bob Nicol of 19375 Vine Ridge Road as a new Park Commissioner
as of this date.
SILVERWOOD PARK PLAN
Harold Ness of Covington Vine Ridge was present to ask about lighting in the park.
He was told the softball field would not be lit but the hockey rink and free skating
rink probably would be.
The Commission reviewed the new plan and decided to wait for Commissioner Laberee's
comments on the plan before accepting it as a final plan.
-2-
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 2, 1987
page three
_ LANDSCAPING DESIGN - MANOR AND CATHCART PARKS
qW
Staff presented another estimate received by telephone from Scott Bradley, a land-
scape architect for "Gardeneer ", on February 26, 1987. The estimate was $25 an
hour with a willingness to accept a ceiling figure. The Commission discussed the
two estimates and, having seen some of "Lan -De- Con's" work:
Lindstrom moved, Nicol seconded, to recommend to Administrator Vogt that Lan -De -Con
be hired at $35 an hour, not to exceed a total of sixteen (16) hours. Motion carried -
5 ayes - Christensen, Vogel, Lindstrom, Jakel, and Nicol.
FREEMAN PARK TRAILS
Commissioner Lindstrom reported that he and Commissioner Christensen were present
on Saturday, February 28th, when the trail was cleared of brush by the bolldozer.
It took 3 hours.
Jakel wondered why the hills and bumps, as well as the low places, were not smoothed
out. The ground was too hard.
The Commission discussed what to do with the trail ......... woodchips? leave natural?
pave? They will make make this decison at a later date.
BMX TRACK
• Council Liaison Brancel inquired what had happened with the BMX Track cleanup.
It was done by Public Works.
ROTARY MO WER
Sue presented the Commission with 3 quotes received from Don Zdrazil for a rotary
mower.
1. 5' Ford $ 895.00
2. 6' Ford 1,097.00
3. 6' Woods 1,494.00
Jakel moved, Vogel seconded, to table the decision on renting or buying a mower
until more information can be gathered, such as Zdrazil's opinion, whether Tonka
Bay or Excelsior own one, and if the school has one. Motion carried unanimously.
CONTRACTING OUT PARK MOWING
Administrator Vogt suggested to the Commission that they consider contracting out
the mowing this year as Public Works will be busy with patching and seal coating.
He said it had been brought up at the budget meetings. The Commission discussed
the idea and asked Sue to get estimates with two figures:
1. Complete mowing and trimming every week or when needed
2. Complete mowing and trimming every other time, alternating with just mowing
-3-
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 2, 1987
page four
F INANCES
Administrator Vogt reported that the Council will begin negotiations with Peter
Pflaum of Near Mountain at $15,000. He also said Waterford 2nd Addition will bring
in $13,500 soon.
MANOR PARK WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION
Commissioner Lindstrom asked the Commission what type of structure they want the
architect to design, concrete or wood. After discussing the fact that wood is cheaper,
easier to insulate, and more aesthetically pleasing, they chose wood. Lindstrom
said the architect would draw all the plans for under $500, however, the site plan
would not be included. The Commission asked that sewer and water be stubbed into
the building.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
South Tonka Little League Field - Freeman Park
Tom Zalac, President of South Tonka Little League, sent a letter to the Commission
requesting several truck loads of dirt, if available, to be placed in the deep center
field area. The Commission asked Sue to review the original agreement.
REPORTS
None.
• ADJOURNMENT
Vogel moved, Christensen seconded, to adjourn at 9:53 PM. Motion carried unanimously.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Sue Niccum
Deputy Clerk
CITY OF
MAYOR
Robert Rascop
COUNCIL
Jan Haugen
Kristi Stover
Robert Gagne
Barb Brancel
ADMINISTRATOR
Daniel J. Vogt
SHOREWOOD
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236
MEMORANDUM
TO: SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION AND COUNCIL LIAISON BRANCEL
FROM: SUE NICCUM
DATE: FEBRUARY 26, 1987
RE: MISCELLANEOUS PARK ITEMS
CRESCENT BEACH DOCK
The Tonka Bay City Council did not agree with the Shorewood
Park Commission's dock decision, they prefer #6 - Sery -A- Dock's
"Gale -A- Dock ". Their Administrator and a member of their Council
will be present at our meeting to try to resolve the decision.
May I suggest to you that if you wish to compare Cr.epeau and
Galv -A -Dock, take Highway 5 to 2115 Arboretum Blvd. in Victoria.
Sery -A -Dock has both docks so you can examine them. Their hours
are from 9:00 to 5:00 on weekdays and 10:00 to 1:00 on Saturdays.
If you can't make it during these hours, or if you wish to double
check to make sure someone will be there, call 443 -2811 (it
takes a while for it to ring).
NEAR MOUNTAIN PARK DEDICATION
Mr. Pflaum was not able to attend the Council meeting so no
decision has been reached.
BOB NICOL - 19375 VINE RIDGE ROAD
Mr. Nicol is now a bona fide Park Commissioner after the Council's
approval at their February 16th, 1987 meeting.
LANDSCAPING ARCHITECT - MANOR AND CATHCART PARKS
Council approved the hiring of a landscape architect according
to the Commission's request. According to City policy, I
called "Gardeneer" on February 26, 1987 and talked to Landscape
Architect Scott Bradley. He quoted a price of $25 an hour and
said he would be comfortable working with a set budget if a
ceiling price was set.
A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore