031687 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 16, 1987
M I N U T E S
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 PM
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Jakel called the meeting to order at 7:06 PM.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Jakel, Commissioners Vogel, Lindstrom, Laberee,
Christensen, and Andrus; Council Liaison Brancel; and
Park Assistant Niccum
Absent: Commissioner Nicol
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MARCH 2, 1987
Christensen moved, Andrus seconded, to approve the minutes as written.
Motion carried unanimously.
MANOR PARK WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION
Ted Lepowsky was present for discussion purposes.
The following items were discussed:
- concrete slab or footings?
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size - 24' x 24' warming house, 24' x 24' pavilion, with 5' of
concrete all the way around, making total concrete size 34' x 58'.
- storage - how much?
- handicap baths - stub in or complete?
- building exterior - rough cedar
Christensen moved, Lindstrom seconded, to proceed with the plans
for the warming house /pavilion subject to comments received at this
meeting from the Commission; subject to Planner's approval; and
with the understanding that the bathroom plumbing be stubbed in at
time of building but the bathrooms are not to be put in at that time.
They recommend that the Council approve the amount of $350 for drawing
of all the plans except the site plan. The following are the comments
recommended this evening:
1. Carry the vaulted ceiling all the way through the warming house
as well as the pavilion.
2. That an emergency exit be provided on the pavilion side only if
deemed necessary by the Planner.
3. Not plan for oversize handicapped bathrooms at this time.
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PARR MINUTES
MONDAY, MARCH 16, 1987
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MANOR WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION - continu
4. Plexiglass window
5. Outdoor lighting under soffit
6. Decision on type of furnace
7. Flooring
8. Insulation
9. Lighting (none wanted in pavilion)
Motion carried unanimously.
SILVERWOOD PARR
The Commission reviewed the plans for the Park and discussed changing
the parking area.
Mr. Ness, from Covington Vine Ridge, asked if the ballfield infield
could face west. Laberee said ballfields usually run north and south
due to the sun.
FREEMAN PARK /SHOREWOOD OAKS FILL
• The Commission discussed Engineer Norton's request. He wished to
know if they still want the fill for Freeman Park. They expressed
concern because of Johnson's attitude about replacing damaged trees
when dealing with the drainage area. They were also concerned over
damage to blacktop, redrock, and the culvert. They discussed having
trucks come in off Eureka Road and staying on the gravel road until
they were at the closest point to run in a straight line to the dump
site. Eureka Road entrance was suggested to spare damage to the black-
top and culvert. They came up with the following stipulations:
1. The amount of fill brought in is not to exceed the amount allowed
for in the Engineer's grading plan done last year.
2. That nothing is done until the road restrictions are off.
3. That the Park Commission designate the route the trucks are to
follow while hauling.
4. That Shorewood Oaks be required to repair any damage done to
park property, road, ground, trees, etc.
5. That Don stake out the general dumping area, or if he is not com-
fortable with this, Engineer Norton be asked to do it.
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PARK MINUTES
MONDAY, MARCH 16, 1987
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ROTARY MOWER
Christensen moved, Andrus seconded, to have Public Works Director
Zdrazil rent a rotary mower per his recommendation. If the mower
is needed more than once, and Zdrazil feels it would be wiser to buy
one, he is to inform the Park Commission of his recommendation.
Motion carried unanimously.
TRAIL MATERIAL - FREEMAN PARK
Four different materials for use on the trail were discussed: grass,
woodchips, rock, and blacktop. Commissioner Vogel said the Arboretum
uses woodchips.
Vogel moved, Andrus seconded, to recommend to Council that NSP be
contacted for woodchips; that Zdrazil designate the spot he wants
them dumped; and that the Public Works crew spread the chips on the
trail when they have time. Motion carried unanimously.
FREEEMAN PARK SIGNS
The Park Commission discussed the placement of the signs on State
Highway 7. These two signs with the name of the park on them are
obstructed by trees and cannot be seen until you are right on top
of the entrance. They request Administrator Vogt to see if it is
possible to move the signs to different locations, and to change the
. sign angles (they are now parallel to the highway).
FREEMAN PARK - REQUEST TO BLOCK WAY FOR MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON TRAIL
AND SIGNAGE WARNING AGAINST ENTRANCE
The Commission requests that a large fallen tree or telephone pole
be placed on Cathcart Drive where the railroad line enters the trail
system. Three- wheelers, four - wheelers, and a four -wheel drive vehicle
have entered here and done damage to the park. They would also like
some signs, one placed by the log, stating according to Ordinance 140,
that motorized vehicles are not allowed on the trails.
BMX TRACK - LIABILITY INSURANCE - REQUIRED DEPOSIT
The Commission wishes to know if there is any additional liability
if the track is not being used by any organized group, but by resi-
dents. They also wish to know if they can require a damage deposit
of $250 if any organization wishes to use it this year.
CITY CLEANUP- FREEMAN PARK
At the request of the City Jakel moved, Lindstrom seconded, to give
permission for City cleanup to be held in "beautiful" Freeman Park
this year only, until they see how it goes: that the mess be cleaned
up as soon as possible; and that any damage to the roads be repaired
by the City, not at the Park Commission's expense. Motion carried
unanimously.
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BADGER PARK WARMING HOUSE - STAINING
Jakel moved, Lindstrom seconded, to recommend to Council that Public
Works Director Zdrazil be given free reign to do whatever he deems
necessary to stain the warming house. Motion carried unanimously.
BADGER FOOTBALL FIELD AND MANOR SOFTBALL FIELD
Christensen moved, Vogel seconded, to recommend to Council that Don
Wagner of "Don's Sod Service" be hired to do Badger football field
at last years price of $3,350, and that he also be hired to do Manor
field if his bid is deemed reasonable by City Administrator Vogt,
this includes 1" or 2" of topsoil, whatever is needed. Motion carried
unanimously.
ANNUAL REVIEW OF PARRS
The next Park Commission meeting will begin at 6:00 PM . The Commis-
sioners will meet at Freeman Park to begin reviewing the parks.
ADJOURNMENT
Vogel moved, Andrus seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10:00 PM.
Motion carried unanimously.
is RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Sue Niccum
Deputy Clerk /Park Assistant
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MEMO TO DAN VOGT
PARK MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 16, 1957
SILVERWOOD PARK -
The Commission reviewed the plans for the Park and .discussed
changing the parking area.
SHOREWOOD OAKS FILL
The Commission discussed Engineer Norton's request. He wished
to know if they still want the fill for Freeman Park. They
expressed concern because of Johnson's attitude about replacing
damaged trees when dealing with the drainage area. They came
up with the following stipulations:
1. The amount of fill brought in is not to exceed the amount
allowed for in the Engineer's grading plan done last year.
2. That nothing is done until the road restrictions are off.
3. That the Park Commission designate the route the trucks
are follow while hauling.
4. That Shorewood Oak's be required to repair any damage
done to park property, road, ground, trees, etc.
5. That Don stake out the general dumping area, or if he is
not comfortable with this, Norton be asked to do it.
. I talked to Norton this morning and he recorded the points
mentioned. He also suggested a 6th point, that the dirt be
leveled. He also said he thought Shorewood Oaks might be
able to reach the area without going on the roads at all.
He will try to do a sketch showing this route and I will present
it to the Park Commission at their April 6th meeting for comment.
** ROTARY MOWER
Christensen moved, Andrus seconded, to have Public Works
Director Zdrazil rent a rotary mower per his recommendation.
If the mower is needed more than once, and Zdrazil feels it
would be wiser to buy one, to inform the Commission of his
recommendation. Motion carried unanimously.
** TRAIL MATERIAL - FREEMAN PARK
Vogel moved, Andrus seconded, to recommend to Council that
NSP be contacted for wood chips, that Zdrazil designate the
spot he wants them dumped, and that the Public Works crew
spread the chips on the trail when they have time . Motion
carried unanimously.
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MEMO TO DAN VOGT
PARK MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 16, 1987
FREEMAN PARK SIGNS
The Park Commission discussed the placement of the signs on
State Highway 7. These two signs with the name of the park
on them are obstructed by trees and can not be seen until
you are right on top of the entrance. They request Administrator
Vogt to see if it is possible to move the signs to different
locations, and to change the sign angles (they are now parallel
to the highway).
FREEMAN PARK - REQUEST TO BLOCK WAY FOR MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON
TRAIL AND SIGNAGE WARNING AGAINST ENTRANCE
The Commission requests that a large fallen tree or telephone
pole be placed on Cathcart Drive where the railroad line enters
the trail system. Three - wheelers, four - wheelers, and a four-
wheel drive vehicle have entered here and done damage to the
park. They would also like some signs, one placed by the log,
stating according to Ordinance 140, that motorized vehicles
are not allowed on the trails.
BMX TRACK - LIABILITY INSURANCE - REQUIRED DEPOSIT
• The Commission wishes to know if there is any additional liability
if the track is not being used by any organized group, but
by residents. They also wish to know if they can require a
damage deposit of $250 if any organization wishes to use it
this year.
** CITY CLEANUP - FREE14AN PARK
Jakel moved, Lindstrom seconded, to give permission for cleanup
to be held in "beautiful" Freeman Park this year only, until
they see how it goes; That the mess be cleaned up as soon
as possible; and that any damage to the roads be repaired by
the City, not at the Park Commission's expense. Motion carried
unanimously.
** BADGER WARMING HOUSE - STAINING
Jakel moved, Lindstrom seconded, to recommend to Council that
Public Works Director Zdrazil be given free reign to do what-
ever he deems necessary to stain the warming house. Motion
carried unanimously.
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MEMO TO DAN VOGT
PARK MEETING
MONDAY, MARCH 16, 1987
• ** BADGER FOOTBALL FIELD AND MANOR SOFTBALL FIELD
Christensen moved, Vogel seconded, to recommend to Council
that Don Wagner of Don's Sod Service be hired to do Badger
football field at last years price of $3,350, and that he also
be hired to do Manor field if his bid is deemed reasonable
by City Administrator Vogt, this includes 1" or 2" of topsoil,
whatever is needed. Motion carried unanimously.
ANNUAL REVIEW OF PARKS
The next Park Commission meeting will begin at 6:00 PM. The
Commission will meet at Freeman Park to begin reviewing the
parks.
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CITY OF
MAYOR
Robert Rascop
COUNCI L
Jan Haugen
Kristi Stover
Robert Gagne
Barb Brancel
ADMINISTRATOR
Daniel J. Vogt
SHOREWOOD
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236
MEMORANDUM
TO:
FROM:
DATE:
RE:
PARK COMMISSION AND BARB BRANCEL
SUE NICCUM
MARCH 13, 1987
MISCELLANEOUS PARK ISSUES
ROTARY MOWER
Public Works Director Zdrazil recommends renting the mower to be used on
the trail. He also said Minnetonka is about the only city that has one,
Excelsior and Tonka Bay do not.
PRICES ON MANOR AND BADGER FIELDS
So far only one set of quotes has been received. It is enclosed in your
packet.
CONTRACTING OUT PARK MOWING
I am in the process of sending out letters to various lawn services asking
for the two estimates requested by the Commission (see minutes).
11ANOR PARK WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION
Don't forget to bring any suggestions you may have to the meeting. The
architect will be present. It will be the first item on the agenda.
A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore