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070687 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD PARR COMMISSION MEETING MONDAY, JULY 6, 1987 MINUTES CALL TO ORDER Chairman Jakel called the meeting to order at 7:15 PM. ROLL CALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 7:00 PM Present: Chairman Jakel, Commissioners Laberee, Lindstrom (until 8:00 PM), Andrus, and Vogel (7:25 PM); Council Liaison Brancel and Park Assistant_ Niccum Absent: Commissioners Nicol (called) and Christensen APPROVAL OF MINUTES Andrus moved, Laberee seconded, to approve the minutes of June 15, 1987, as written. Motion carried unanimously. Andrus suggested that the telephone poles mentioned in the last minutes be used for the bridges in Freeman Park. Sue reported that Staff would rather have the bridges built professionally, than • by the road crew or the Boy Scouts, due to possible liability problems. Laberee will bring the bridge plan to the next meeting so that Staff can look it over. MANOR PARK WARMING HOUSE /PAVILION Mr. Lepowsky will try to present the signed plans at the next meeting. In the mean time, the Park Commission asks that he present the unapproved plans to Lyman Lumber and Scherer Brothers in order to receive estimates on the cost of materials. This will give them an idea of total cost, and where to go from here. FREEMAN PARK MASTER PLAN The Commission discussed the existing master plan. Commissioners present said they had tried various ways of rearranging the ballfields but could not figure out another way to place them. Commissioner Andrus presented one rearrangement. Sue will give this arrangement to Administrator Vogt and ask him to get an estimate from Engineer Norton on the cost of changing the grading plan for a this or a similar rearrangement. Meanwhile the Commission will continue to work on other ideas to present at the next meeting. MANOR PARK LANDSCAPE PLAN Commissioner Laberee presented the landscape plan for Manor Park done by Eric Owen and Assoc. He pointed out the various plantings, explaining that they • would provide color all four seasons of the year. He also showed how they would screen various areas. PARR COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, JULY 6, 1987 page two 0 CATHCART PARR PARKING LOT The Commission discussed putting a parking lot in the northeast corner of Cathcart Park. Commissioner Laberee said that moving the ballfield could prove to be expensive, plus shutting down the use of the field for a year or two. Chairman Jakel expressed concern over the present placement of home plate, and the amount of traffic using Church Road and West 62nd Street. Screening the field was discussed but it was felt that children might dart out from between the screening and create an even more hazardous situation. The idea of putting in a gravel parking area was also discussed. Discussion will continue on this topic at a later meeting. MANOR PARK PROPOSED PARK LAND Staff explained what is currently going on with the property offered to the City as parkland by Mr. Walz. Right now the City is waiting for a survey in order to find out exactly how much property he will have available. The Park Commission felt that $30,000 was too steep a price for 30,000 sq. ft. They ask that Administrator Vogt continue to negotiate with Mr. Walz to see what price can be reached. 1988 PROPOSED EXPENSES • The Commission will present these at the next meeting. REPORTS Brentridge Council Liaison Brancel reported on the Brentridge Addition. She said that two easements had been offered with a 26 lot proposal. The Council preferred a 24 lot Addition. With the 24 lot Addition the developer was only willing to give one easement, either on the north or on the south. The southern ease - ment was chosen because there_ was more room on_ that _ end and less lot disruption. This gives a trail easement along the southern edge of the development leading to the wetlands that is 20' wide, and the wetlands themselves. Near Mountain - Fill removal Council Liaison Brancel mentioned that fill was being hauled out of Near Mountain and up Covington Road, possibly into Silver Ridge. She asked Sue to check with Administrator Vogt to see if he knows what the situation is. Hot Air Balloon Launching Request Council Liaison Brancel said that Adventure Balloons is looking for a place to launch their hot air balloons. She asked if the Commission would consider balloon launching from Manor and Freeman Parks. The Commission was concerned about driving on the grass. They asked Sue to ask Administrator Vogt to check on liability and the idea of permits. They did not feel there should be a • charge for the permits. -2- PARK COMMISSION MINUTES MONDAY, JULY 6, 1987 page three • REPORTS - CONTINUED Silverwood Park Fill Brancel asked for an update on the fill situation at Silverwood Park. Sue told her that as far as she knew Staff was working on trying to send any excess fill from Shorewood Oaks to Silverwood Park. This depends on whether they will haul it that far. She also said that she had thought the fill from any park work at Manor Park might be hauled to Silverwood. Freeman Park Fill Administrator Vogt said that more fill is being hauled into Freeman Park. They will haul up to the 26,000 cu. yds. required by the grading plan. Vogt said they will dump the clay in the northeast corner and separate the black dirt and put it in another area. Manor Park Volleyball Court /playground Estimates were received from C. G. Braun and Lan -De -Con. After looking over the estimates and the increase because of contractual service, the Commission decided to wait with the playgrounds, and to make a change in the volleyball court specifications. Sue had talked to the University of Minnesota about their courts, and they recommended some of the following: Dig out 5" - 56' x 80' • Use 5" x 6" Timbers - staked in - 2 24" stakes per tie 6" fine washed sand (They said this was important -they used the wrong sand) Requests for new estimates will be requested from G. G. Bran and Lan -De -Con. Laberee moved, Vogel seconded, to recommend to Council that they increase the amount for the volleyball court from $1800 to $2500, an increase of $700, due to the change from the work being done by the public works crew to the work being done contractually. Motion carried unanimously. Crescent Beach Sue said she'd been down to the beach today and didn't see any weeds. Brancel said she was there two days last week and the weeds were so bad in the afternoon that she is now going to another beach. Sue will check with the Public Works Crews and see what they have noticed regarding weeds. Badger Hockey Rink Public Works Director Zdrazil recommended completely rebuilding the hockey rink. When the decision is made on City Hall addition, and the City Hall /Badger Park Improvement Plan has been approved, this can be done. Minimum Wage /Rink Attendants The minimum wage changes will be co #tired by the existing wage scale. E ureka Road Entrance • The survey to determine property lines and setbacks will be done within 10 days. at a cost of around $1000. The Commission decided to use 10" cedar posts, with the gate and one post on each side. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, S{ie Niccum, Park Assistant /Deputy Clerk -3- MEMORANDUM TO: FROM: DATE: RE: CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 PARK COMMISSION AND LIAISON BRANCEL SUE NICCUM TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 1987 FREEMAN PARK MASTER PLAN MAYOR Robert Rascop COUNCIL Jan Haugen Kristi Stover Robert Gagne Barb Brancel ADMINISTRATOR Daniel J. Vogt • (612) 474 -3236 Enclosures 1. Freeman Park Master Plan maps taken from original *2. Freeman Park Master Plan with grade changes that • were made on the grading plan done by OSM last year. *3. Freeman Park Master Plan map with dotted lines showing location of items on existing master plan. *4. Blank maps for your use. *These were not requested but I thought it might make it easier for you. At the June 15th meeting the Freeman Park Master Plan was discussed. The idea is to take 1 master plan and cut out the various proposed athletic facilities and the parking lot, rearrange them according to your suggestions, AND HAVE YOUR PROPOSED SUGGESTIONS READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING. The following issues were discussed: Having the ballfields close together would save on fencing and expenses, plus locating all "like" activities in one area. Parking lot should be convenient to various activities. Shelter should be convenient to various activities. Hockey and Free Skating rinks -mud problem could be created when located in center of activities. 0 Don't forget warming house will be in shelter building. A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore CITY OF MAYOR Robert Rascop COUNCIL Jan Haugen Kristi Stover Robert Gagne Barb Brancel ADMINISTRATOR Daniel J. Vogt SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 0 SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236 MEMORANDUM TO: PARR COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FROM: SUE NICCUM DATE: FRIDAY, JUNE 26, 1987 RE: MISCELLANEOUS PARR ITEMS MANOR PARR - PROPOSED PROPERTY FOR PARR LAND Mr. Walz is asking approximately $30,000, $1 a square foot, for the • property he is offering for sale as park property. What is your opinion on the cost SILVERWOOD PARR - PUMPROUSE They will begin building the pumphouse within a couple weeks. The map enclosed within the packet will show you the work boundaries. Administrator Vogt has already spoken to them about any fill they may have and where to put it. 1988 PROPOSED EXPENSES Enclosed in your packet is a copy of the "Parks and Recreation Capital Improvements Program ", along with a sheet for "Projected Expenses for 1988 ". Please review the "Parks and Recreation Capital Improvements Program" sheet and see if you have any suzzested changes. Also fill in anv projected expenses you for- see for 1988 A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore CITY OF MAYOR Robert Rascop COUNCIL Jan Haugen Kristi Stover Robert Gagne Barb Brancel ADMINISTRATOR Daniel J. Vogt SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236 MEMORANDUM TO: FROM: DATE: RE: PARK COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL SUE NICCUM JUNE 18, 1987 MISCELLANEOUS PARK ISSUES CATHCART PARK - CREOSOTE POWER POLES When Gary Carlson was present he mentioned having power poles stored behind the Cathcart tennis courts picked up by the power company. He felt the creosote • was dangerous to children. Staff asked me to check with Public Works Director Zdrazil. He said we can't ask them to pick them up becuase we got them from the power company in the first place. He said he doesn't have any use for them right now but feels they can use them in the future. FREEMAN PARK MASTER PLAN Maps were sent to the Park Commission on Tuesday, June 16, 1987. Park Commission - please have your suggestions ready for the next meeting. CRESCENT BEACH I talked to Julie Light of Community Services regarding the beach questions raised in the minutes: Julie said it is the lifeguard's job to clean up weeds on weekends, however, they are not supposed to do this if anyone is in the water. She will instruct them to come 10 minutes early and call everyone out of the water while they clean the beach. The fact that they start at noon, and it's been so hot that the beach has been really crowded when they arrive has caused the problem. Also, there was a substitute on duty that Saturday, that person was not as familiar with various procedures. There is a lifeguard meeting coming up and Julie will go over everything we discussed with the lifeguards. Light informed me that when someone is close to the beach on a floatation device the lifeguards are instructed to inform them that floatation devices are allowed on part of Excelsior beach and to suggest they go over there. A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore MEMORANDUM MIS PARK ISSUES JUNE 18, 1987 • page two CRESCENT BEACH - CONTINUED Light also said when a beach is in a residential area, they have to be concerned with people abusing the use of private property next to the beaches. She also said if one person is using a floatation device right outside the beach area, it can encourage other people to do the same, if there were several people outside the actual beach limits on these devices, it would end up with the lifeguard guarding half the lake. The guards are taught to do drills. They blow their whistle and call every- one out of the water for 5 minutes. This allows families to reunite, mothers to keep track of their children, and mothers and lifeguards to take a restroom break. They are encouraged to do these drills when the weather is hot and the beach is crowded, maybe 5 -6 times a day, if the weather is coller and there are only a few people, they may not be necessary at all. Light felt it would probably be impossible, too dangerous, to screen off the weeds. She suggested I check with the DNR. I talked to Howard Krosch at the DNR about the weed problem and whether it is possible to screen off the area in any way. He said the main problem with weeds right now is a weed called "Curly Leaf Pond Weed ". It has a short life cycle, then it dies. He said the season should be over in about 1 -2 weeks. • Regarding screening of the beach, he told me that the "Hennepin County Park Reserve District" has closed off a couple beaches. They have used a very expensive process, using oil spill screen and having it custom made. The reason in their case was to prevent "swimmer's itch ". He did suggest a inexpensive method of control that their rules allow. That is taking 3' lengths of cheap plastic, draping them over the buoy ropes, weighting them with light chain or bolts, and stapling them to the ropes. They do not have to go all the way to the bottom, in fact they prefer that they don't. I informed Julie Light of this conversation. She will have her lifeguards keep an eye on the weed situation and keep me informed. I will report on this at the July 7th meeting.