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082289 PK WS MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD PARR C OMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 1989 M I N U T E S R nT.T. CALL CALL TO ORDER COUNCIL CHAMBERS 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD 7:00 PM LABEREE LINDSTROM VOGEL WILSON WEATHERLY ANDRUS CHRISTENSEN Chairman Laberee called the meeting to order at 7:07 PM. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Vogel moved, Wilson seconded, to approve the minutes of Tuesday, August 8, 1989 as written. Motion carried - 4/0. LIAISON - 2ND AUGUST MEETING Chairman Laberee will be the liaison to the August 28th Council meeting. DISCUSSION - PARR PLANNER /LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT Laberee said the Park Commission has been trying to work from preliminary plans and you can't bid from them. He said the Park Commission should have their own expert, someone that specializes in this area. He said • he also thinks that a certified landscape architect would cost much less than having the City Engineer do everything. The Park Commission discussed the advantages of a Park expert. They would like the Council to consider having a Park Planner /Landscape Architect on retainer for Parks. Staff has been asked to contact several firms asking for information. The Commission was presented with three names and asked if they wished to add to the list. Laberee suggested contacting James Robin, a former Park Commission Chairman who still lives in Shorewood. He said Robin has designed parks for the City of Bloomington and also does county parks. Mr. Robin also teaches at the U. The Commission also asked that Van Doren Hazard Stallings be included. They feel that it should be made clear that the major part of the job is recommendations for park improvement financing. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR Freeman Park Lindstrom.said he had visited the Park with Todd Strote, President of the Excelsior Softball League. Lindstrom mentioned that George Haun has been doing consultant work for us. Strote said the St. Louis Park fields are the best in the state. Lindstrom said he felt that it is important, especially without a warning track, to make sure that the outfield fence is set back at least 280 and the closer to 300', the better. The Commission agreed with Lindstrom, saying this had also been recommended by Haun. The Commission requests that Admin- istrator Whittaker talk to Norton and Haun regarding the rear fence setback and set up a special meeting if necessary. PARR COMMISSION MINUTES TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 1989 Page two 0 MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR - Continued Silverwood questionaire The Commission spent a long time reviewing the Comprehensive Plan and the LAWCON Grant items, they then came up with.a list of consider ations that they felt would be appropriate for Silverwood Park. Wilson felt that a copy of the preliminary park plan should be included. He also suggested informing people that the Commission, using the Comprehensive Plan, utilized the park to its fullest capabilities before there were any people in the area- -and now would like input. The Commission chose 5 categories for rating individual preferences: 1. most important 2. somewhat important 3. indifferent 4. not important 5. not wanted The Commission felt that they did not want to get too detailed. They will add a "other suggestions and comments" area where people can add any additional information. They started by listing passive activities and lead up to active activities. picnic area • picnic pavilion scenic overlook winter sliding hill children's playground area toddler's playground area grassy common area pickup ballfield regulation ballfield tennis courts hockey rink free skating rink warming house volleyball court basketball The residents name and address space will be optional. Snowmobiles The Park Commission was informed of the 2/2 vote and asked to be informed before any further action takes place as they would like to meet with the Council if further action is intended. Manor Pond - Weeds around edges Staff informed the Commission that there had been a request to cut the weeds around the pond. The Commission prefers to leave it natural. Tot Equipment in Parks Staff informed the Commission that a request had been received for Toddler play equipment in parks. The Commission will add this to there park plans. American Legion Post #259 contribution The Legion contributed $2,500 to be used for drinking fountains in Freeman Park. PARR COMMISSION MINUTES TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 1989 Page three 46 MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR - Continued Freeman Park - Football Goal Posts The Park Commission would like to have the location of the football field goal posts in Freeman Park marked so the goal posts can be installed this fall. They will ask Christensen to talk to the Football people to see if they would consider contributing the cost of the posts. Staff will check costs. Forecast - Public Artworks Niccum informed the Commission of her response to the letter she sent to Forecast informing them of the Park Commission's reaction. Forecast said "We normally specialize in temporary installations, however, we are willing to consider permanent works such as playground equipment. For safety reasons special consideration must be put into such a design. Liability insurance for a permanent installation would then be the responsibility of the owners ". The Commission asked Sue to check this out. Hennepin County Regional Railroad Right -of -way - Signs There has been a problem with people driving down the newly improved portion of the right -of -way, apparently they think its a road. The Commission feels it is important to put signs at all street crossings as soon as possible for safety reasons, they are asking for two different types of signs -- "No motorized vehicles except snowmobiles allowed" (similar to the existing red signs with white lettering) and "Welcome to the City of Shorewood's Walking and Biking Trail" (possibly with the City Logo). Manor Park Pond - Possibility of making into lake? Gagne informed the Commission that someone had mentioned an area in Lake Elmo that looks just like Manor Pond that has been made into a little lake with a sandy beach and swimming area. The Commission asked Sue to ask Administrator Whittaker about it. o \��fi 0 a " I, icy Vogel moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 9:40 PM. Motion carried unanimously. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Sue Niccum Park Staff Rep