121289 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 1989
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 PM
Chairman Laberee called the meeting to order at 7:08PM.
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Present: Chairiman Laberee, Commissioners Christensen, Lindstrom,
Andrus, Wilson, Weatherly (7:22pm), and Vogel (7:58pm).
Also
Present: Administrator Whittaker, Public Works Director Zdrazil,
and Council Liaison Gagne
MANOR PARK - LIGHT SKATING AREA
Public Works Director Zdrazil was present to explain that he had
received an estimate from A.G. Electric for $1017.43. The estimate
included lamps, fixtures, and installation. N.S.P. has offered the
City two 300 watt used lights and will put them on the pole. The
responsibility of the electrical connection from the pole to the box
will lie with the City.
Christensen moved, Lindstrom seconded, to accept the donation from
N.S.P., to thank Public Works Director Zdrazil and N.S.P., and that
the Park Capital Improvement Fund pay for the necessary electrical
connections. Motion carried - 5/0.
The Commission also discussed the ramps and handrails, and skirting
around the trailer. Zdrazil said they plan to "skirt" the trailer
with snow. Tie also said they started flooding the skating rinks
today, they would have started sooner but were delivering "recycling
bins ". Gagne explained the use of the bins.
HOLIDAY GREETINGS
Mayor Haugen stopped into the meeting to wish everyone "Happy Holidays ",
and to invite the Commission to the City Christmas Party.
SILVERWOOD PARK - SLIDING HILL
Public Works Director Zdrazil and Commissioner Lindstrom visited
Silverwood Park today and looked over the sliding area. They said some
stumps and logs have to be removed. This will be done.
CATHCART PARK - HOCKEY RINK
The Commission asked what the situation is with the Cathcart rink.
Zdrazil said the rink has been repaired and will be maintained this
• year. Next year a new rink will be built.
7:22 PM - Public Works Director Zdrazil left the meeting and Commissioner
Weatherly arrived.
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• QUESTIONNAIRES - SILVERWOOD PARK
The Park Commission discussed the questionnaire that was sent to the
residents in the area of the proposed park. They reviewed the available
material and specifically discussed methods of statistically analyzing
the material, such as weighting and averaging the information, or
weighting it only. Weatherly felt weighting only was the appropriate
step to take. There was some concern shown over the fact that the
categories "grassy passive common area ", "softball field ", "all- sports
turf field ", and "pick -up ballfield" overlap. The Commission discussed
how to present the information. Weatherly offered to analyze the
information. She said then people can be told the outcome. The
Commission requested that all the results be given. They will put the
information in the next newsletter.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Lindstrom moved, Andrus seconded, to approve the minutes of Tuesday,
December 12, 1989, as written. Motion carried - 6/0.
1990 COUNCIL LIAISONS
January ............ Lindstrom
February ........... Weatherly
March..............Vogel
April ..............Laberee
May................Andrus
June...............Wilson
July ...............Wilson
COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS
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July.... ......Wilson
August. ........Andrus
September .......
Laberee
October .........
Weatherly
November ........
Vogel
December ........
Lindstrom
Chairman Laberee informed the Commission that two .positions are up
December 31, 1989. Administrator Whittaker will contact the two
Commission members. Commissioner Weatherly informed the Commission
that she may have to resign in the spring due to reasons involving
her job. The Commission encouraged her to remain until she is sure
resignation will be required.
ELECTION OF 1990 CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMAN
Commissioners Lindstrom and Laberee explained how the Chair and Vice
Chair are usually choosen.
Lindstrom moved, Weatherly seconded, to recommend to Council to appoint
Gordon Christensen Chairman of the Park Commission and Jim Andrus Vice -
Chairman of the Park Commission for 1990. Motion carried - 6/0.
PARK PLANNER /LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT RECOMMENDATIONS
The Commission discussed the information submitted by:
Wehrman Bergly Assoc. Inc.
Donald Brauer
Mike Gair and Assoc.
Dahlgren, Shardrow, and Uban
Westwood Planning and Engineering
Van Doren Hazard Stallings, Inc.
James Robin
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The Commission discussed large firms vs. small firms, the advantages
and disadvantages of each.
The Commission felt that some things are important, such as:
knowledge of marketing strategy
- experience with comprehensive plans
ability to design park facilities
- sense of what parks should be
- have the interests of the Park Commission and City Council at heart
- efficient
- fast
- good
They discussed cutting the list to four, then writing to these four
and asking for their general qualifications and asking them to give
us a proposal for Silverwood Park. The City would provide a survey,
topography map, the old plan, and the results of the Silverwood Park
Survey. They would then interview each one, asking what their fees
would be. They felt they should receive information before the meeting.
It was suggested that the time be divided into three segments, the
presentation, a question and answer period, and comments and discussion.
1 0 Chairman Laberee and Administrator Whittaker will meet and set up
what is needed, and make arrangements to contact Wehrman Bergly Assoc.
Inc., Westwood Planning and Engineering, Van Doren Hazard Stallings,
Inc., and James Robin. They will all receive the same information and
be asked to give a presentation. The meeting of January 23, 1990 has
been set as a tentative date for interviews.
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Mr. Steven Dzurak, speaking for the Covington Vine Ridge Homeowner's
Association, talked to the Commission about the outlot that the City
has a trail easement on. He said they are interested in improving
the outlot. He is asking for direction. He said they would like to
choose a specific place for the trail to go, then just knock the weeds
down in an area about 5' wide. The Commission suggested Dzurak talk
to Building Official Nielsen to see who he should talk to at the DNR,
in case they have any restrictions or suggestions.
The Commission also discussed the Silver Lake access, and the
problems caused by the Old Market Road intersection.
Dzurak asked when he should come back before the Commission? They
said any time.
REPAIRS
None reported.
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BUDGET
Council Liason Gagne and Administrator Whittaker explained funds
transferred from the General Fund to the Park Capital Improvement
Fund to cover the 1989 improvements. This will have to be repaid
to the General Fund when the PCIF is solvent. Whittaker also
explained Defeasance money and what it will be used for. He said
there will be more discussion on this in 1990.
ENGINEER'S BILL
Park Commissioner Christensen said the City Administrator brought up
the bill to be paid and Council Liaison Gagne presented the Park
Commissions viewpoint. Christensen then went on to mention the three
issues he wanted to discuss, and presented them to the Council. See
Council Minutes of December 4, 1989 -pages 9, 10,1 & 12 (attached)
Christensen said he noted a parallel between the Freeman Park problems
and the water treatment.
COUNCIL LIAISON
Gagne reminded the Commission that they may have another Council
liaison starting at the first of the year as the Council rotates.
The Commission thanked him.
FREEMAN PARK RETAINER
• The Commission asked if there were any retainers still being held?
Whittaker said a 5% retainer is being held on the fence until back-
filling around the concrete in the holes is done & warning tracks restored.
C ROSS COUNTRY SKI TRAIL GROOMING
Vogel said Carver County does not have time to groom the trails in
Freeman Park for cross country ski trails. Whittaker suggested
contacting the DNR. Laberee will contact them. Lindstrom said he
has a relative with a simple machine that could do it. Lindstrom
will check with the Snowmobile Club to see if their groomer would
work.
CLEARING AREA AROUND OUTFIELD FENCE ON THE WEST OUTFIEL - FREEMAN PARK
It was suggested that the area around the outfield fence on the west
outfield be cleared for home runs and to provide better access to the
soccer field. Laberee suggested that the Park Commission inspect the
area before reaching any decision.
ADJOURNMENT
Weatherly moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn at 9:23 PM. Motion
carried unanimously.
• RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED FROM NOTES AND TAPE
Sue Niccum
Parks Administrative Assistant