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041090 PK MIN CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS PARK COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD TUESDAY, APRIL 10, 1990 7:00 PM MINUTES CALL TO ORDER Chairman Christensen called the meeting to order at 7:15 PM. ROLL CALL Present: Chairman Christensen, Commissioners Andrus, Lindstrom, Vogel, and Laberee; and Administrative Assistant Niccum Absent: Commissioners Weatherly (Chicago) and Wilson (Nebraska) TRAIL - COVINGTON VINE RIDGE ASSOCIATION Postponed until April 24, 1990. SKATING RINKS Niccum introduced Todd Latterner, who worked at Badger, and also oversaw the other rink attendants; Jason Lesmeister, who worked at Manor rink; and Jeff DeToffel, who worked at Cathcart rink. She explained that she thought it was a good idea for the rink attendants to offer suggestions directly to the Park Commission, and for the Commission to ask any questions they might have. Niccum said these are her three youngest rink attendants, and they did the best job this year. The Commission asked the attendants if it created a problem because they had to deal with people older than them- selves, Latterner said he felt that most of the skaters are school age, and that the highschool kids know them from school and don't want to cause them any trouble, so he feels it is an advantage. He said he had one problem with 6 kids throwing popcorn all over the warming house. He wrote them tickets. All 6 sets of parents came to talk to him, and apoligized for their kids. He said it worked out very well. He also mentioned a group of men, 30-40 years old, that came down every Saturday afternoon, and expected to take over the rink because they worked during the week. He said their language toward other kids that wanted to skate was profane, and they one of them would bring their young kids, toys and all, and expect the rink attendant to babysit.This was brought to the Commission s attention and discussed at that time. The Commission asked the three attendants about "boots". They said it is becoming more and more popular. Up to 30 people at a time would arrive to play a game of "boots'. They said it gives the kids that can't skate as well a chance to play. The "boots" crowd even rents arena time. Jason, who worked at Manor, said there were a lot of people that used the rink. He said they were mostly younger kids because the older kids want to play hockey, there are quite a few hockey players in the neighboring area, and no close rink. He said the pond was divided into two rinks by a snowbank. Even if hockey nets could be put on one side it would help. He said that all the neighbors bordering the park, and many others PARK COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, APRIL 10, 1990 Page two SKATING RINKS - continued stopped in to say how glad they were to see a skating shelter in the park. The Commission asked if there had been any negative feedback on the trailer. He said not one comment. He said he thought a permanent warming house and hockey rink would get a lot of use. Jeff, who worked at Cathcart, said he had a problem with coaches taking their teams on "soft ice". This has happened every year. Niccum will send a letter with the contract next year telling the association that they must inform their coaches to follow rink attendants directions concerning the ice or they will be barred from the rink (coaches). Latterner asked if painting the boards white at Badger would help melting problems. Maintenance problems Badger broken outside window (inside window intact) door closing (concrete too high) water seeping into warming house - keeps ruining carpeting Commission discussed rubber matting - expensive but would save labor and carpet costs. Whole foundation of building should be raised. Cathcart should have runner from warming house to rink gate broken lock on back room door hockey rink light - northwest light - doesn't go on for hour, sometimes not at all. Manor should have another light on other side of pond, a lot of kids won't skate on that side because its too dark. Trailer house had a problem shutting door - trailer settling? the plywood that was used on the floor kept popping up, and kids would trip over it should have a larger trailer next year Niccum presented the Commission with a seasonal use report (see attached). Theft problems were mentioned. Commission suggested some type of lockers that the attendants could put their food, etc. in, and lock them. Niccum said sometimes the attendants are there for up to 13 hours a day, they can't leave, and if someone steals their food, it is a real hardship. The Commission thanked Latterner, Lesmeister, and DeToffel for coming, and asked Niccum to write letters to them, commending them for their service - to be copied to Council. PARK COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, APRIL 10, 1990 Page three SOUTH TONKA LITTLE LEAGUE - CATHCART FIELD Chuck Freiberg and Bruce Mattson were present to state that they had been appointed by the Association to bring all the playing fields up to playable condition. They came to talk to the Commission because they know that Cathcart ballfield has a relocation plan. They want to put in new benches, fix the backstop, and put in an aglime infield. The infield is uneven and they don't want anyone getting hurt because a ball bounces wrong and hits them, or someone falls. They are willing to pay for, and spread the aglime if the City will remove 8" of dirt from the infield. The Commission asked if they would be willing to wait until the season is over before putting in an aglime infield, so they can check to see what needs to be done to relocate the ballfield. The Commission felt it would be a shame to dig out 8" of dirt, put in the ag lime, and then have to dig it all up and dig out another 8" for the relocated field. The Commission explained that their reason for relocation of the field is for the safety of the children who use it. Freiberg and Mattson agreed that it would be a vast improvement to relocate the field. Frieberg said they did not want to wait. He said a groundskeeper at the University of Minnesota said they could scrape up the aglime at the end of the season and pile it under a tarp, then use it in the new location next year.. Vogel moved, Laberee seconded, to have Niccum talk to Administrator Whittaker, to see if Park Planner Koegler could look at the field, and see what the cost would be, and what would be involved, to relocate the field; if the field could be relocated without having to put in fill, if public works could move the backstop, this would allow South Tonka to put the permanent benches in the right place, the cutting and aglime would only have to be done once. If the Administrator and Park Planner feel this is the time to relocate the field according to the approved preliminary plat of 1987; the Park Commission would like the proposal to go directly to the City Council so the work can be done before it interferes with the scheduled season; if the Administrator and Park Planner feel it is unfavorable to do it at this time, the Park Commission will do it at a later time. Motion carried - 5/0. Mattson asked if the City would water the infield of the Little League Field at Freeman Park. They would like it saturated so they can go in and roll it. FREEMAN PARK LITTLE LEAGUE DUGOUT Niccum talked to Jim Latterner. He said the Tonka Men's Club rebuilt Tonka Bay's dugout last year, and if we needed help to let him know. SPRING CLEANUP Niccum asked the Commission if they had any requests or direction for Spring Cleanup, to be held in Freeman Park again this year. The Commission asked that any damage be repaired. They leave the rest, road included, up to Public Works Director Zdrazil. PARK CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN The Commission reviewed the Park Capital Improvement Plan. PARK COMMISSION MEETING TUESDAY, APRIL 10, 1990 Page four PARK DEDICATION FEES Laberee mentioned that the City of Deephaven charges 10% of the lot cost. He said they did a study of surrounding cities, and asked Niccum to get a copy for the next meeting. He thinks our fee should be higher. PARK PLANNER The Park Commission would like to have a joint meeting with the City Council to discuss the role of the Park Planner. They feel they are again in a situation where there is a communication problem between the Council and the Commission. BASES Commissioner Lindstrom gave Niccum the information and prices on the bases/anchors/home plates/pitching rubber - the cost is $265 a field, for 4 fields, 3 at Freeman and 1 at Manor. Laberee moved, Andrus seconded, to recommend to Council to purchase 4 sets of bases, 3 for Freeman Park and 1 for Manor Park, eliminating the double base at Manor Park, at a cost not to exceed $1,000. Motion carried - 5/0. The 3 sets of bases for Freeman Park would be stored until the fields are playable - only for a tournament this year. The reason for purchasing them all at once is because there is a discount. If the bases were put in right away, it would make people think the field is playable, this is the reason for storage. PICNIC TABLES The Commission leaves this in Public Works Director Zdrazil’s hands, he can order what he needs. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Andrus moved, Vogel seconded, to approve the minutes of January 9, 1990. Motion carried - 5/0. ADJOURNMENT Laberee moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn the meeting of Tuesday, April 10, 1990, at 10:25 PM. Motion carried - 5/0. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, Susan Niccum Parks Administrative Assistant