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CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PARK COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, AUGUST 28, 1990 7:00 PM
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Christensen called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Christensen, Commissioners Lindstrom, Vogel, Andrus,
and Dzurak; Administrative Assistant Niccum;
Council Liaison Watten; and Councilmember Gagne
Absent: Commissioners Laberee and Wilson
NEW PARK COMMISSIONER INTRODUCED
Chairman Christensen introduced Steven Dzurak, 19750 Vine Ridge Road,
as the new Park Commissioner Dzurak will be filling the
remainder of Angela Weatherly's term, which runs through
December 31, 1992.
DISCUSSION - PROTOCOL - SECLECTION OF PARK COMMISSIONER
Christensen referred to the Joint meeting of August 14, saying that
Council had asked the Commission to review the by-laws. He was under
the impression that they had also informed the Commission that the
by-laws remained in effect until they had been reviewed by the
Commission, and that this meant that the applicants for the Park
Commission would be sent to the Park Commission for review.
Gagne said the Council decision was that the Council will pick new Park
Commissioners for the Park Commission, just as they do for the Planning
Commission. Andrus said that the Ordinance states that the Council
picks the Park Commissioner. Lindstrom said he thinks it would benefit
both the Park Commission and the Council to let the Park Commission
interview the applicants and make recommendations to the Council.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Andrus moved, Vogel seconded, to approve the minutes of the Joint Park
Commission/Council meeting of Tuesday, August 14, 1990,
The Commission requested that the information regarding temporary
warming houses be expanded to include the fact that the $2500 included
3 sites-Manor, Silverwood, & Cathcart-plus installation of electricity
and phone for the 1st time at two of these sites. The normal fee for
each temporary warming house alone is $450 for 3 months-motion carried
as amended - 5/0.
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SOCCER ASSOCIATION
Mike Anderson, President of Tonka United Soccer Association; Jim Kohrt,
Vice President of the Board of Directors; and Dave Rouse, Vice
President of the Instructional Teams; were present to represent the
Tonka United Soccer League. Anderson said they were present to address
concerns for future development. He said they plan to visit each
community involved in soccer to see what they have to offer in the way
of present and future fields.
Anderson explained that Tonka United Soccer Association is part of the
Minnesota Youth Soccer Program, and has a totally voluntary Board of 24
people. He said 12 years ago, when Tonka United Soccer Association
began, they only had a couple teams. In the past 5 years the growth
rate has been phenomenal. He said they want to provide "quality
experience", and prepare for the growing needs of youth. He said he and
Jim Kohrt had visited 40 parks in the last two days, trying to
determine what is available.
Anderson said their purpose in attending the meeting is to establish
more effective communication, develop a good working relationship with
the City, and make the City aware of the need for soccer fields. He
said it's conceivable that there will be a 20%-30% growth per year over
the next few years. He said at present there are approximately 750 kids
enrolled, 226 of these are from Shorewood. They are divided into two
leagues, the
instructional league and the traveling league. The traveling
league is required to host 508 of all games played. They cover a
larger area - to Brooklyn Center on the north and Burnsville on the
south, while the instructional league is a house league and only
covers the Minnetonka School District.
Chairman Christensen said it was wonderful to have the President and
officers come to the meeting. He said the Park Commission tries to
provide for all organizations, and have agonized over finding soccer
fields. Christensen then told Anderson that as far as the United Tonka
Soccer League goes, "the deed has been inconsistant with the
statement". He said he would be specific:
Last year a person came before the Commission to request use of Badger
Football field, stating that the field would be used by small people
one night a week, and cleats would not be used. He personally went out
on the field - it was badly torn up, and there was a cleated footprint
that his shoe fit.
The Association was asked specifically to move the nets around.
Assurance was given that this would be done - it was not done.
A contract was sent to the Association to be signed. The signed
contract was received the day after the season ended.
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Letters sent to Shorewood residents caused Niccum to spend 2+ days on
the telephone dealing with questions and antagonism.
Christensen said he wanted to assure the Association that the City does
want to provide for soccer, but continuation of past behavior will not
be allowed. The Association will not play on Shorewood fields unless
proof of insurance and the signed contract have been returned.
Gagne introduced himself to Anderson, saying he was a Councilmember. He
told Anderson that the Association came very close to being totally
banned from Shorewood, and said maybe he should talk to the Council.
Anderson said he didn't dispute what had happened, but they are a young
organization and learning. He said he is here to make a "new
beginning".
Kohrt said the girls teams are expanding rapidly.
Vogel asked Anderson why, when their field use quota was reached,
they couldn't just say "there is no more space"? Anderson said
they could, but they don't want to. Vogel said the fields were
over-used this year. They cannot be played upon every day, they
have to be rotated, or the City will lose the fields they have.
Anderson said he doesn't want it to appear as though his attitude is "I
want - we want - want - want - want".
Kohrt said if the kids are not into organized sports, they sit around
all day and do nothing.
Lindstrom said a soccer field was planned for Freeman Park in the
original 1980 Freeman Park plan. He said the City wasn't even aware
that soccer was being played in Freeman Park. It was new turf this
year, and the Commission did not want anyone to play on it until next
year when it would be established. He asked Anderson if the Association
had any money available to buy additional parkland so more soccer
fields could be put in? Anderson said no, they have no immediate funds.
He did explain that in their monthly Board meeting in September he had
asked the Boardmembers to come with funding suggestions. Rouse said it
might be possible for the Association to organize people to aerate and
seed.
Watten asked Anderson how many cities were involved in the Association?
Anderson said 10, all the cities in the Minnetonka School District. He
said the traveling teams interact with Hopkins/Minnetonka. When asked,
Anderson said School District 276
has the worst fields. Watten said we are a newer community and it takes
time to develop these things. He was told that other
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communities are newer, and some of them have whole complexes. Watten
suggested the Association look into other communities that are not as
developed as Shorewood to see if they have more land to offer.
Christensen ended the discussion by thanking the representatives from
the Tonka United Soccer League for coming, and stated that the
Commission is not against soccer, and is willing to do what they feel
is appropriate.
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The Commission took a break---8:15 - 8:25
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BYLAWS
Vogel moved, Dzurzak seconded to table the by-laws until they have been
revised by Administrator Whittaker and reviewed by the City Attorney.
Notion carried - 5/0.
PARK DEDICATION FEES
Andrus moved, Lindstrom seconded, to recommend to Council that the Park
Dedication Fees be raised to $750.00 for each lot, if the lot in a
single-family lot, or $750 for each living unit authorized to be built
on the plat, if the plat contains lots other than the single-family
units, or $750 for each commercial sewer unit assigned to the property
by the City, in accordance with the City's commercial sewer assessment
and policy hook-up, if the development is a commercial land
development. Motion carried - 5/0.
FINAL RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL ON REFERENDUM VS. TAX LEVY AND THE PARK
CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN
The Park Commission prioritized the items in each park. Andrus said if
the City goes for a referendum the City can be assured that future
Councils cannot stop the funding, on a tax levy they can do so. He
suggested the Commission start initiating a referendum, for the total
PCIP minus the proposed Howard's Point parkland amount. He said this
way future income can be used for other things that may come up later.
Watten said it would probably take about 1.5 years. He said it would be
supervised by Park Planner Koegler.
Christensen said Andrus has been doing a lot of work on this for the
last two years. It has been well thought out. He said Shorewood is
overly taxed, many people are questioning their
ability to continue to live here. He said he would support a
recommendation for a referendum.
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Lindstrom said he felt the City should provide parks as part of the
City services. He didn't feel the City should have to ask the
taxpayers, they should just levy for the parks.
Andrus moved, Vogel seconded, to recommend to the Council that the Park
Planner be directed to initiate the bond referendum process for the
total Park Capital Improvement Plan; that the Council accept the
prioritization of the Park Commission, and spend funds according to
this prioritization; and that a 9 month lead time be given, allowing
the referendum to take place approximately April, 1991. Motion carried
- 5/0.
LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD ORIENTATION
The Park Commission reviewed Park Planner Koegler's memo offering two
alternatives for the field.
Christensen moved, Andrus seconded, to recommend to Council that Layout
#1 be accepted. Motion carried - 5/0.
The Commission wishes to know why the Planner chose Layout #2.
HORSES - HIKING AND BIKING TRAIL/FREEMAN PARK
Niccum said complaints have been received regarding "horse souvenirs"
on these areas. She said there have been requests for signs stating "no
horses". The Ordinance does not allow horses in the parks without
special permission. The Commission asked her to put an article in the
paper regarding this problem.
NO MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 11, 1990 - ELECTION DAY
Niccum reminded the Commission that this is election day. The Park
Chairman will work with Staff to call a special meeting if it becomes
necessary (Niccum will be on vacation).
ADJOURNMENT
Dzurak moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10:25 PM.
Motion carried - 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Susan A. Niccum
Park Administrative Assistant