081391 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 1991
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
6:00 P.M.
Vice Chairman Wilson called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
at Silverwood Park.
ROLL CALL AT SILVERWOOD PARK
Present: Vice Chairman Wilson, Commissioners Lindstrom, Vogel,
Laberee, and Dzurak; Administrative Assistant Niccum;
Council Liaison Lewis and Building Inspector Joe Pazandak
Absent: *Chairman Andrus was in another meeting with Park Planner
Koegler and Administrator Hurm regarding the Park
Improvement Plan.
Commissioner Christensen was out of town.
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SILVERWOOD PARK /SHADY HILLS PARK TOUR
The Commission started with the access to Silver Lake. It appears
to most of the Commission that the reeds are so thick and extend
out so far that putting in a dock seems superfluous.
The Commission then started from Silverwood Park. They walked up
and examined the sliding area, then continued on, following the
sewer line up to Outlots A and B, both large City owned lots
bordering Waterford Place, and part of the trail. Enroute, they
made several discoveries. They crossed a barbed wire fence that
Pazandak told them should be removed because barbed wire fences are
against the ordinance. Pazandak pointed out the infringements on
outlots A and B. The Commission then visited Shady Hills Park.
They would be interested in dividing off two or three buildable
lots and selling them, leaving the pond, and want to know if this
can be done.
8:OOPM ....... MEETING BEGAN AT CITY HALL
Present: Chairman Andrus, Commissioners Wilson, Vogel,
Lindstrom, Laberee, and Dzurak; Administrator Hurm;
Park Planner Koegler; Council Liaison Lewis and
Secretary Niccum
SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MINUTES
TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 1991 - Page two
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Laberee moved, Lindstrom seconded, to approve the minutes of
Tuesday, July 29, 1991, as written. Motion carried - 4 ayes - 2
abstain.
REVIEW DRAFT OF CITY -WIDE TRAIL PLAN
Park Planner Koegler was present to review the draft of the plan
with the Commission. He said the Municipal State Aid Street System
has been chosen, and this affects the trail plan and will cause
some changes (see attached) . The State Aid program will pay for a
5' wide sidewalk along Smithtown Road, Country Club Road, Covington
Road and Lake Linden Road. If the sidewalk is enlarged to 6' in
width, it will cost another $1.50 per running foot, and if it is
enlarged to 8' in width, it will cost $4.50 a running foot.
Koegler gave Smithtown Road as an example, stating the 6' sidewalk
would cost approximately $18,000 in additional costs, an 8'
sidewalk would cost $54,000.
Administrator Hurm said it is important for the Park Planner, the
Engineer, the Council and the Park Commission to coordinate
planning efforts. It is important for the Park Commission to let
the Council know what they want. He said the water issue
• determines the choice of streets, if water does not go in, this
could change.
The Commission asked if there would be boulevard in between the
street and the sidewalk. Koegler said yes, when possible. They
also wanted to know the life expectancy of a sidewalk. Koegler
thought 20 -30 years. Koegler said the State Aid includes retaining
walls when necessary. The City could do about 1500 feet of roadway
a year, Koegler said the State will not pay for bituminous
sidewalk.
Lewis expressed concern over the width of Covington Road, saying it
comes so close to the pond, and if too much fill is needed for the
sidewalk, there won /t be fill for other purposes because the Army
Corps of Engineers will only allow a certain amount of fill in the
park.
The Commission discussed different widths, wondering if busier
streets should be wider. They then discussed the financial aspect.
Koegler stated that 6' is a minimum width for a bike /walking trail.
Laberee said anything wider than 6' would not be aesthetically
pleasing, it would look like a road.
Laberee moved, Wilson seconded, to recommend to the Council that
they accept 6' sidewalks. Motion carried - 6/0.
40 Koegler will return to the Commission with a revised plan.
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TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 1991 - Page three
MARKING SILVERWOOD TRAIL
Dzurak asked Koegler how the trail could be tastefully marked.
Koegler suggested using 4 x 4 or 6 x 6 bollards with decorative
caps on top and a maximum height of 3'. He said small plaques
could be put on the bollards.
TREES IN SILVERW PARK ALONG COVINGTON ROAD
Lewis would like to know if all the trees along the road will be
cut down as part of the park plan. He said several people have
expressed concern, they like the trees.
USER FEES
Administrator Hurm presented the Commission with a proposed plan,
saying some of the information came from a "Proposed Park Facility
Usage Plan" done by the Park Commission in 1981.
Lindstrom said 10 years ago he was really against user fees but he
likes this plan.
The Commission discussed other cities, Chanhassen's Lake Ann, etc.,
MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Police Patrol of Parks
The Commission would like to see the police patrol the
parks, especially Freeman, on a regular basis.
Freeman Park - Irrigation - North End
Koegler said the irrigation is in and working, Public
Works has been trained, and there is a two year warranty.
Wilson, Lindstrom, Hurm, Koegler and Jim Jones will meet and come
up with a recommendation for charges.
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TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 1991 - Page four
Badger Warming House
Niccum said the cement work has been done on the warming
house. Now Public Works has to finish up, including
installing three new doors.
Laberee moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn at 9:35 P.M. Motion
carried - 6/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Susan A. Niccum
Park Secretary
ATHLETIC FIELD USER FEES
0 ATHLETIC FIELD USER FEES STATEMENT OF PURPOSE
Shorewood's athletic fields had been developed to provide
Shorewood /Minnetonka Community Services Area Residents with a place
to spend their recreational time. Area residents should be able to
use the fields at their convenience. Therefore, if fields are
reserved for exclusive use by organizations, fees should be paid
for that right.
PROPOSED USER FEES
• Youth Non Profit Organizations within the Minnetonka
Community Services Area No Fee
• Adult Non Profit Organizations within the Minnetonka
Community Services Area - No Fee
• Profit Making Organizations within the Minnetonka Community
Services Area - One Base
Fee
• Youth Non Profit Organizations outside the Minnetonka
Community Services area - Base Fee
times 2.5
• • Profit Making Organizations outside the Minnetonka Community
Services Area - Base Fee
times 2.5
• Adult Non Profit Organizations outside the Minnetonka
Community Services Area - Base Fee
times 2.5
NOTE: To qualify as "within" the Minnetonka Community Services
Area over 50% of the participants must reside within the
service area.
* Although adult non - profit organizations within the
Minnetonka Community Services Area will not be charged a
fee for field usage the following is suggested:
• assist in improving the base field maintenance provided
by the City
• assist in Capital Improvement Program Projects
• consider "donating" at a base fee rate for field
maintenance
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