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CITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARR COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1991
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
7:00 P.M.
Chairman Andrus called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Andrus, Commissioners Lindstrom, Christensen,
Dzurak, Laberee (8:45PM) and Wilson (7:36PM) ; Park
Secretary Niccum; Council Liaison Lewis and Administrator
Hurm
Absent: Commissioner Vogel (called)
SNOWMOBILE ORDINANCE
The snowmobile ordinance was postponed until October 8, 1991.
USER FEES
The Commission reviewed the draft. Following are comments and
questions regarding this draft.
• The Commission wants to use the term "Reservation /User
Fees"
• The Commission discussed the term "profit- making ". They
felt that this could be interpreted two ways:
When an organization makes a profit, but puts it
back into the organization to help the organization.
In this case they did not consider it a profit.
- When a rof it is made and :.
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This they did consider a profit.
• Christensen did not feel that Shorewood residents should
have to pay to use the parks. After the Commission
discussed this at length, they decided that if residents
• wanted to take a chance on an area being open, there would
not be a charge, but if they wanted to reserve it ahead of
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CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
• PARR COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 1991 7:00 P.M.
M I N U T E S
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Andrus called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Andrus, Commissioners Lindstrom, Christensen,
Dzurak, Laberee (8:45PM) and Wilson (7:36PM); Park
Secretary Niccum; Council Liaison Lewis and Administrator
Hurm
Absent: Commissioner Vogel (called)
SNOWMOBILE ORDINANCE
The snowmobile ordinance was postponed until October 8, 1991.
0 USER FEES
The Commission reviewed the draft. Following are comments and
questions regarding this draft.
• The Commission wants to use the term "Reservation/ User
Fees"
• The Commission discussed the term "profit- making ". They
felt that this could be interpreted two ways:
When an organization makes a profit, but puts it
back into the organization to help the organization.
In this case they did not consider it a profit.
When a profit is made and pocketed.
This they did consider a profit.
• Christensen did not feel that Shorewood residents should
have to pay to use the parks. After the Commission
discussed this at length, they decided that if residents
wanted to take a chance on an area being open, there would
. not be a charge, but if they wanted to reserve it ahead of
time, barring others from using it, there would be a
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charge. Christensen agreed with this.
• The Commission decided to add "individuals and families"
to Private Organizations or Businesses within the
Minnetonka Community Services Area ... with a base fee of
one.
• The Commission questioned the method of showing that the
area is reserved. Several suggestions were offered:
Dzurak - Mark off the area
Dzurak - Receipt with particulars on it
Some type of plastic covered area where a card
could be slipped into to show that the area is
reserved
The Commission felt that it was better to have some type
of receipt from the City to show, especially if someone
was alreadly using the facility.
• • What qualifies an organization to be on the Community
Services list, and what happens if certain organizations
fit the criteria but are not on the list? These
organizations have the option of appearing before the Park
Commission and applying for this status. The Park
Commission can then recommend action to the Council.
• Why are tournaments handled differently, at $50 per day
per field? Because the fields receive hard useage during
a tournament, and its hard to keep track of how many times
each field is used.
• The Commission separated hockey rinks from ballfields and
soccer fields, and set fees at $10 an hour for unlighted
rinks, and $15 an hour for lighted rinks.
• The Commission decided to list multi -use buildings by
parks.
• The multi -use buildings cost more than the pavilions
because they have more to offer.
A second draft of "Reservation/ User Fees" will be presented at the
meeting of Tuesday, October 8, 1991.
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MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
Availability of T.I.F. Funds for Si lverwood Park
Dzurak said he thought during the Old Market Road Intersection
hearings, Council stated that there would be funds available
from the excess T.I. F. to do some work in Silverwood Park.
He asked Niccum to check the minutes of those hearings.
Silverwood P ark Fill
The Commission discussed the fill, if needed, for Silverwood
Park. They felt the neighborhood would not object if the fill
was graded right away. They also discussed the fact that if
fill is brought into the tennis court area, it should be
compacted as it is brought in, and allowed time to settle.
Railroad Corridor /Trail
Christensen informed the Commission that Victoria has
completed its share of the trail, and Excelsior is in the
• process of trying to complete part of the trail, the area from
the Shorewood border on the west to downtown Excelsior. They
are asking for donations.
Other things to be done
Christensen told Niccum to put the following on a "to do"
list:
- Sign reading "Cans or Plastic containers only, no Glass"
- Clearing and finishing Freeman Park Trail
- Mow Silverwood Park sliding area before winter
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Susan A. Niccum
Park Secretary