051292 PK MINCITY OF SHOREWOOD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, MAY 12, 1992 6:30 PM TOUR
M I N U T E S
COUNCIL CHAMBERS
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
8:00 PM REGULAR MEETING
The Park Commission toured Cathcart and Freeman Parks. Chairman Wilson took notes on what needs to
be done. After the other Parks have been toured the Commission will review notes from the entire tour of
parks at the July 14th meeting.
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Wilson called the meeting to order at 8:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Wilson, Commissioners Lindstrom, Laberee, Dzurak, Mast, and McCarty; Park
Secretary Niccum; Council Liaison Lewis; Administrator Hurm; City Planner Brad Nielsen;
Park Planner Mark Koegler and Planning Commission Liaison Malam
Absent: Commissioner Andrus (Out of town)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
We have not received the minutes for April 6 and April 14 yet for approval.
Laberee moved, Lindstrom seconded, to approve the minutes of March 10, 1992 as written. Motion carried
-6-0.
REVIEW PARK AND OPEN SPACE ELEMENTS OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN POLICY
SECTION
City Planner Brad Nielsen asked the Commission to review pages 42 -46 from the current Comprehensive
Plan relative to Community Facilities policies. He said a number of other policy areas, such as lakeshore
use and government buildings, also have a relationship to parks and they might want to review these as
well. He said the Planning Commission has started working on the Transportation section, and asked that
the Commission also look at this. He explained that the Plan that is in effect right now was done in the late
1970's -early 1980's.
CITY OF SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, MAY 12, 1992 - Page two
Nielsen went through the above sections with the Park Commission item by item. Suggested (Attached to
minutes you will find a copy of requested changes. Please review these and if you have any changes or
corrections, be prepared to present them at the June 9 meeting.)
REVIEW PARK SHILTER BUILDING REQUIREMENTS AND DESIGN FOR ALL PARKS
City Planner Nielsen said he does not have any cost estimates at this time, but will have for the next
meeting. Bathrooms were discussed. Nielsen said at the last meeting it was discussed to use portable
restrooms located away from the shelter building due to the fact that indoor restrooms have to monitored
at all times. Dzurak asked if this was within code. Melsen said provisions could be made for restrooms
without putting them in right away, or restrooms could be put in right away and opened only when
supervised. He said, depending on the final decision, code says that the building would have to be hooked
to sewer but the code can be amended. Lewis said that portable may be better for certain parks while
indoor restrooms might be better for others. Nielsen explained that building codes cannot be changed but
City codes can. He said the building code requires bathrooms but doesn't state indoor or satellite or other.
He said we could provide the space, use it for storage, then if the building develops more year around use,
the change could be made.
The Commission also discussed consideration of a concession door, such as a garage door.
The shelter plan that both Nielsen and the Commission preferred has two doors instead of one.
Nielsen discussed masonry vs. wood. He said the Commission originally choose a wooden building but he
strongly recommends masonry. It is much more vandalism resistant. He said the decorative block they have
now looks nice.
REVIEW UPDATED BADGER PARK PLAN
Hurm explained that a plan ensted to put a berm in the southeast corner of the park to provide screening
for the residents. He said now that the public works building is being relocated there is no reason for the
berm. He suggested leaving a parking area in the southeast corner so the football people will have more
area to park and to prevent them from parking on the grass.
CITY OF SHOREWOOD PARK COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, MAY 12, 1992 - Page three
CONSIDERATION OF THE PARK REFERENDUM ACTION PLAN
Commissioner Dzurak who has spent many hours working on the referendum action plan, explained his
latest update of the plan. He said it is not spread out over as large a time span.
McCarty suggested writing letters to the editor - several - so they get in every weed
Hurm complemented Dzurak on the action plan, saying he did a good job. The Commission thanked him
for a job well done.
CATHCART PARK - REVIEW OPTIONS AND REVIEW AND UPDATE OF ALL PARK SITE
PLANS
The Commission discussed the above two items together because they affect each other.
Hurm reviewed the updated PCTP Plan with the Commission. He said there are 4 categories:
• Bonding
• Donations
• City Funding
• Any other possible source
Hurm said we started with a high cost referendum estimate. We met with the neighbors. We added trails.
Now it is time to take another look and see if we can lower the cost.
Laberee and Lindstrom said they felt that the roads in Freeman Park should be paved due to the dust
problem. The Commission did not feel curb and gutter were necessary.
Hurm said he and Dzurak met with the people from the church, and explained their position There was a
lot of discussion on whether or not to split the park what to expect from Chanhassen, what to expect from
the church, whether to get rid of the park totally, and various alternatives. Park Planner Koegler will
express his opinion on the divided park plan vs. leaving it all where it is at the next park meeting.
Lindstrom said he did not feel that Shorewood should have to pay assessments to Chanhassen.
Discussion will continue at the next meeting
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TUESDAY, MAY 12, 1992 - Page four
REPORTS
Tonka Men's Club /South Tonka Little League dugout in Field #3 - Freeman Park
Hurm announced that the dugouts have been completed.
ADJOURNMENT
Dzurak moved, Lindstrom seconded, to adjourn the meeting of May 12, 1992 at 11: 1OPM. Motion carried
unanimously.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Susan A. Niccum
Park Secretary
PARK COMMISSION VISIT TO CATHCART PARK
TUESDAY, MAY 12, 1992
• (Taken from tape done done by Chairman Jim Wilson)
• Basketball net and hoop missing completely - replace
Done.
• Blacktop on basketball court has large crack right across
center of court - repair
Public Works will repair.
PARK COMMISSION VISIT TO FREEMAN PARK
TUESDAY, MAY 12, 1992
• Field 13 - Dugouts look really good except the holes on
the end of the roof need some additional cosmetic work to
make it more attractive.. with that it will be super.
Also along the ceiling and the top row of block it looks
like it could use some more grouting. Also note City
should install 6' wood chip path from the parking lot to
the dugout on the north end until the season is over with
and the grass can be reseeded in this area.
• NOTE: Building Inspector Pazandak said the grouting is
not necessary because it allows the roof to give. He
checked Minnetonka's dugouts and none of them have it.
The wood chips are laid from the parking lot to the
dugout. A limestone trail will be put in this area in
1993. the grassy areas adjacent to the trail will be
reseeded this fall.
• Field 4 - Southeast corner - regarding the posts lining
the roadway ..... we need to add another post or somehow
block off the area from the field fence to the end post
so that vehicles cannot drive through and cut the corner
as they are tearing up the turf.
Post missing due to underground wiring done by N.S.P.
Zdrazil will contact them about post replacement.
• Field 15 - have Public Works put in a a couple bollards
because people can drive right around the back of the
field and drive out on the open area.
Public Works will put the bollards in place.
• Field 13 - replace donation sign for Tonka Men's Club, it
has already been vandalized.
Niccum will order new sign.
MAYOR
Barb Brancel
COUNCIL
Kristi Stover
Bob Gagne
Rob Daugherty
Daniel Lewis
CITY OF
SHOREWOOD
5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD • SHOREWOOD, MINNESOTA 55331 • (612) 474 -3236
May 5, 1992
Ms. Debbie Grahek
3056 Rhode Island Ave. South
St. Louis Park, MN 55426
Dear Debbie,
The mutual promises set forth in the contract - for recording
secretary has not been up to expectations. We agreed on the draft
minutes being submitted two days after a meeting. As of this date
you are four meeting minutes behind. We are not in possession of
either the cassette tapes or the minutes of the following meetings:
Park Commission meeting - April 6
• Park Commission meeting - April 14
Planning Commission meeting - April 21
City Council Worksession /meeting - April 27
Please submit the typed minutes, cassette tapes, W -9 Form and bill.
Upon receipt of the documents and tapes the City of Shorewood will
submit a final payment check. Effective immediately and on receipt
of the above documents your services are terminated.
Sincerely,
C'Y OF SHOREWOOD
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Anne P. Latter
Deputy Clerk
cc: James C. Hurm, City Administrator
Al Rolek, Finance Director
Mayor and Councilmembers
A Residential Community on Lake Minnetonka's South Shore