071498 PK MIN
CITY OF SHOREWOOD COUNCIL CHAMBERS
PARK COMMISSION MEETING 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
TUESDAY, JULY 14, 1998 7:30 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Puzak called the meeting to order at 7:34 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Puzak; Commissioners Colopoulos, Dallman, Cochran; Administrator James
Hurm.
Also present: Officer Jeff Keller, South Lake Minnetonka Public Safety Department. Later
arrivals: Commissioners Themig and Bensman.
Absent: Commissioner Arnst and Council Liaison Roger Champa.
B. Review Agenda
There were no changes to the Agenda.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of June 9, 1998
Commissioner Themig asked for an addition to Item #6 on page 3, paragraph #4 to note:
“Colopoulos did not feel it was appropriate, given the tax burden, to give tax dollars to an agency
(the School District) which is already taxing residents for its operations”.
Colopoulos moved, Cochran seconded to approve the minutes as amended. Motion passed
4/0.
A correction was mentioned later in the meeting that the word “rescues” at the end of the above
referenced paragraph should be replaced with the word, “resources.” Correction noted.
B. Park Commission Work Session Minutes of June 23, 1998
Because there were only two commissioners present at that meeting who were also present for
this approval, it was agreed to postpone approval until the next meeting date. It will be placed on
the August meeting agenda.
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3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were no matters from the floor. It was decided to move Agenda Item #6 to this point in
the meeting because Officer Keller was present to give his report.
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6. REVIEW SNOWMOBILE REPORT
Administrator Hurm previewed the report by explaining that Officer Keller’s report is a part of the
Police Chief’s letter and report to the City. The Park Commission’s role at this point is not
definitive beyond reviewing the report. Commissioner Colopoulos stated that the final disposition
of the Snowmobile Task Force was that the Park Commission would recommend to the City
Council that they look at the reports after the Commission does their review at the end of each
season. The question then was in what format should data be presented. Chair Puzak suggested
looking at the report in the context of past years and watch for trends. Administrator Hurm said
that “trends” may be difficult in that snow, conditions and other elements make each year very
different from the next. Commissioner Colopoulos agreed that while the report is well done, the
vision is different this year. This report speaks to an overall improvement in compliance. He
added from personal observation that compliance with the lower speed limits are indicated by
better trail conditions in Shorewood than conditions found in parts west of the City Limits.
Officer Keller agreed.
Chair Puzak recommended listening to the report and then decide on an action. Administrator
Hurm mentioned two points: 1) The City Council did ask that a large, bright sign be posted at
each end of the Shorewood section of trail. This will be done before the next season begins. 2)
The City did get a call at the beginning of the season from Hennepin County Court. They had
received the communication from the City about adjusting fines and are still considering the
request.
7:45 Commissioner Themig arrives.
Officer Keller began by saying that there was a focus on training this past season. Another officer
has been certified and 45 youth, mostly from this area, were licensed. There were 35 complaints
logged during this past season, compared with 57 in the previous year and 99 during the 95/96
season. Officer Keller acknowledged that the lack of snow this past winter was a factor, but also
increased enforcement certainly played a big part in the improvement. A total of 50 citations were
written which is down from 99 during the previous year, which included a number of preseason
citations.
A total of $4,337 was spent on enforcement, of which $1,000 was supplied through a DNR grant.
(It is hoped that this grant will also be provided for the upcoming season.) There were 187 hours
logged, which Officer Keller described as a significant amount of time. There are now 4 officers
interested in snowmobile enforcement. He went on to say that he echoes Police Chief Young’s
recommendation for a second snowmobile to provide back up as a safety measure. The sled from
the Fire Department was sometimes used, but it needs some work. Overall, Officer Keller felt
that it was a good year.
7:49 Commissioner Bensman arrives.
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Chair Puzak asked if snowmobilers were respectful of pedestrians on the trail or crossing. Officer
Keller said that there seems to be a consensus that this is much better. The word is out that when
snowmobiling through Shorewood, there is a high risk of getting in trouble for speeding. The
signs are effective, along with the handing out of copies of a summary of the Shorewood
Ordinance and State Regulations to people using the trail. Officer Keller added that daytime riders
are mostly families and those riding at night now understand curfews, which make for fewer
violations. Yet, enforcement continues to be strict and William’s Towing did tow a number of
sleds this past season. Officer Keller reiterated that he personally thinks that things are much
better overall.
Commissioner Themig asked about the range covered on the LRT and whether they patrol
outside of Shorewood. Officer Keller said that they do travel Tonka Bay, Excelsior and
Greenwood, but the lions share of their work is in Shorewood. Officer Keller added that
ordinances passed in other cities have now created a more standard speed limit resulting in less
confusion in passing from city to city. Chair Puzak commented that, as a snowmobiler, this is a
very helpful change.
Commissioner Themig asked if Hennepin County patrols the trail. Officer Keller responded that
the County considers the trail closed after November 15 and focus their time on winter activities
in the Hennepin County Parks. The Sheriff’s Department helps along the trail until the lakes
freeze.
The topic went back to officer safety and whether back up help is useful from an officer in a
patrol car. The need is not for additional staff, but for a second sled. The cost would be
approximately $7,000, fully equipped. Officer Keller stated that a half price offer is available
through a special program. Commissioner Colopoulos summarized that enforcement efforts have
reaped results but that safety has continued to be a concern. He felt that based on the report and
the police department’s perceptions, the City should respect this request. Chair Puzak agreed that
there is a strong argument in favor of a second sled, especially at night when snowmobilers travel
in groups. He suggested the idea of a joint effort and looking into all resources such as other
cities which benefit, the snowmobile club, the Legion, etc. Administrator Hurm offered to
approach the administrators of the other three cities involved.
Colopoulos moved, Dallman seconded that the Park Commission recommend to the City
Council that they approach the Police Coordinating Committee to explore the possibility of
a cooperative purchase of an additional snowmobile for use by the South Lake Minnetonka
Public Safety Department for patrolling the cities of Shorewood, Tonka Bay, Excelsior and
Greenwood, referencing the letter of Police Chief Rick Young, requesting relative to officer
safety. The motion passed 6/0.
Administrator Hurm asked if the Park Commission had suggestions for other ways to present the
data contained in the snowmobile report to the City Council. Chair Puzak suggested that Officer
Keller be included in the meeting agenda to present the report to the City Council. Commissioner
Bensman suggested that the information be summarized and presented in the context of last years
report for comparison. Chair Puzak thanked Officer Keller for his report.
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4. REPORTS
A. Status Report on “To Do List”
Administrator Hurm reported that some additional things have been completed and checked off as
of June 8. Public Works hopes to be finished with chipping wood later this week and get back to
these items. Things are still somewhat behind due to the summer storms.
B. Trail and Park Planning Process Update
Administrator Hurm described the first session which was on July 9, 1998 as being a very good
meeting. There were 15 residents present, plus Park Planner Mark Koegler and Administrator
Hurm. They reviewed the past developments and identified new things to discuss relative to
parks and trails. There will be two more meetings of this group. It was agreed by the Park
Commission that it is best to not attend those meetings and let the group continue independently
to add credibility to the process and the results. Commissioner Bensman asked if survey results
are on the web site and if the press has shown interest in the subject. The survey is shown in its
entirety on the City’s web site and an article was published in the local paper.
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C. Report on Work Session on Developing a Policy on the Use and Improvement
of Park Land for Organized Sports
Administrator Hurm reported that the Commissioners who were at the Work Session did make
headway, and that another Work Session is needed. Commissioner Bensman noted that those
who met did a nice job and went a long way to make a good start. Chair Puzak added that, the
group was tentative because of the fact that they were a minority of the Park Commission.
5. REQUEST TO PROHIBIT GOLFING IN FREEMAN PARK
Administrator Hurm stated that the resident making this request was not able to attend this
meeting. Chair Puzak asked for suggestions on how to respond. Commissioner Colopoulos
reported that he is consistently at Freeman Park during the morning hours and does not have the
impression that this is a significant problem. Commissioner Bensman asked if there is evidence of
damage from golfing. Commissioner Colopoulos replied that there are no divots. When asked if
someone had been hit by a golf ball, he reiterated that golfing has not caused a problem in his
estimation. Chair Puzak asked if the matter should be pursued or left alone unless the resident
persists with the request. Commissioner Themig asked if the City’s maintenance personnel could
observe the situation and Administrator Hurm replied that their start time is 7:00 which is after
the golfing is happening. Commissioner Themig was not comfortable with leaving the matter be
and it was agreed that the resident will be invited to attend another Park Commission meeting to
present her concerns.
6. REVIEW SNOWMOBILE REPORT
This was covered after Agenda Item #3.
7. 1999 PARK OPERATING BUDGET
Administrator Hurm explained that the Parks and Recreation portion of the 1999 Operating
Budget does not reflect any major program changes. One item to note is on page 101, line item
#63 which is the proposed improvements of $5,000 (a new furnace and duct work at the Badger
warming house). There was discussion about miscellaneous needs and they would be covered by
“General Supplies.” There is also the request for a General Fund transfer of $10,000 again in
1999, which was originally to be at zero by then. Both of these items are reflected in the draft
operating budget.
Commissioner Themig asked if the estimated 1999 revenues from the Sports Organizations was
included. Administrator Hurm agreed that it needs to be added. The amount estimated from the
CIP was $12,000 in donations, which will be added to Program Revenues under Cost Indicators
for 1999.
The topic went to reviewing the list of objectives for Parks and Recreation. Commissioner
Colopoulos interjected that he has spoken to neighbors near Freeman Park about the foul ball
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problems and trespassing issues. They have noted an improvement and understand about the
delay in installing poles and nets to resolve it. The realignment of the ball field may eliminate a
need to install netting. That objective may take care of itself.
The question of repairing the soccer fields was considered and falls under policy development. It
was suggested that a new objective for 1999 should be to implement general use guidelines.
Commissioner Bensman said that the Commission has done a lot to “clean up” things that have
not been official in the past. She prefers the word “policy” to “guidelines” because it is a stronger
word and means that things have been agreed upon. Commissioner Themig suggested that an
objective be to: “Implement a policy for use and improvement of park land for organized sports
organizations.”
The objective to “Increase knowledge and use of Shorewood’s parks” has been partially
accomplished through the city newsletter. Commissioner Themig suggested adding the phrase “to
continue promotion of Shorewood’s parks” i.e. through brochures, etc. Commissioner Bensman
suggested adding the objective: “Improve relationships with sports organizations.”
Bensman moved, Colopoulos seconded that the Park Commission recommend that
Administrator Hurm submit to the City Council as part of the 1999 Budget document, the
proposed 1999 Park Operating Budget with changes and additions as discussed and
recorded above. The motion passed 6/0.
8. REVIEW TOURNAMENT POLICY
After quiet consideration and no further discussion,
Themig moved and Colopoulos seconded that the Park Commission accept the Tournament
Application as proposed as Attachment #8. The motion passed 6/0.
9. UPDATE ON ANY COMMUNICATIONS WITH TONKA UNITED SOCCER
ABOUT SOCCER AREA IMPROVEMENT PLAN
Chair Puzak asked, in light of the newly added objective to improve relationships with sports
organizations, to invite (or entice) the Soccer Association to meet with the Park Commission for
discussion about Freeman Park. Commissioner Colopoulos recommended waiting until the end of
their season. It was agreed to contact them after the upcoming week of tournaments.
10. DEEPHAVEN PARK BOOKLET
All Commissioners present (and some of their spouses) agreed that the park booklet is a good
idea. Commissioner Themig asked if there may be a civic group such as historical society or
seniors group who could take on this project for Shorewood parks. One suggestion was the
Rotary which looks for projects such as this to be done at the High School. Chair Puzak asked
for a member of the Park Commission to champion the cause and approach someone to pull
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together the resources. Commissioner Themig volunteered himself and Commissioner Arnst to
assist. Commissioner Themig will take the project on in September.
11. OLD BUSINESS
Commissioner Themig asked about the status of the request for funding of the Minnewashta
playground equipment. Administrator Hurm reported that the City Council, after thoughtful
discussion, decided to approve the request of $1,000 in kind and $3,000 in cash from the City.
Administrator Hurm updated the Commission on progress with the Ad Hoc Land Conservation
Committee which has met three times. He distributed a copy of the meeting minutes to the Park
Commissioners to keep them informed and suggested that Intern, Erica Johnson may attend a
Park Commission meeting to discuss an appropriate role for the Commission in the future.
Commissioners were also invited to attend the committee meetings. There will be some issues to
keep abreast of.
Commissioner Dallman asked about the work of the water committee. Administrator Hurm
replied that they are currently waiting for data from the topography study.
12. NEW BUSINESS
Commissioner Colopoulos complimented the City on the recent brochure regarding pet policies.
Chair Puzak asked about the transcript from a voicemail message requesting a trail near
Silverwood Park. Administrator Hurm said that she was informed that her request is being
considered as part of the trail requests. Chair Puzak would rather it be documented as an action
item because of the safety issue. Administrator Hurm said it could be put on the schedule. Chair
Puzak also asked that it get on the Park Commission meeting agenda to address it specifically.
Note: Badger Park tour comments are attached to these minutes.
13. ADJOURNMENT
Colopoulos moved, Themig seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion passed 6/0 and the
meeting was adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED
Connie Bastyr
Recording Secretary