091101 PK MIN
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 7:30 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Arnst called the meeting to order at 7:41 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Arnst; Commissioners Young, Meyer, and Callies; City Engineer Brown; and
Council Liaison Turgeon
Excused
Absents: Commissioners Bix, Puzak, and Dallman
B. Review Agenda
Chair Arnst asked to add report #J, a request to reconsider the CIP expenditure request for bleachers at
Badger Park football fields, and item #6 discussion over a joint session with other South Lake Park
Commissions. She then requested they remove the old item #6 for discussion at a later date.
Meyer moved, Callies seconded to approve the agenda as amended. Motion passed 4/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A Park Commission Meeting Minutes of July 10, 2001
Young moved, Meyer seconded to approve the Minutes of the July 10, 2001 meeting as submitted.
Motion passed 4/0.
B. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of August 14, 2001
Callies moved, Meyer seconded approving the August 14, 2001 Minutes as submitted. Motion
passed 4/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting of August 27, 2001 and September 10,2001
Council Member Turgeon and Engineer Brown had nothing to report regarding Parks from the August 27,
2001 meeting. Turgeon did report on the September 10, 2001 meeting. She indicated that the Council would
like the Park Commission to reconsider the CIP expenditure for football bleachers in Badger Park and make a
recommendation to the Council. Brown added that the City approved the winter use trail request and it will
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be submitted to Hennepin County. Brown also noted that the City is working on accepting a gift at 6075
Chaska Road from the owner there offering this mostly wetland area to the City.
B. Report on Park Foundation Meeting of August 16, 2001
No report from absent Commissioner Dallman. Young mentioned that although he attended Apple Days for a
few hours in the morning, there were poor weather conditions. He was told things improved later in the day.
C. Report on Land Conservation Environment Committee
The meeting this evening was cancelled. Commissioner Callies has been approved as the new liaison.
D. Report on Meeting with Minnetonka Community Education Services on 8/15/01
Chair Arnst indicated that she and Commissioner Meyer have attended two recent meetings with MCES and
other representatives from the City. On August 15th, Administrator Dawson laid out the problems and
questions the City of Shorewood is looking for MCES to address and asked them to return with a proposal.
Chair Arnst shared, that after laying out what we needed, MCES came back with two plans. A Macro view in
which they act as a one time facilitator between the City and sports organizations, and secondly, a plan
providing for pretty much the same services they have thus far, scheduling the fields and acting as liaison at
an additional charge. The City now realizes that MCES may be unable to deliver any more than they already
have. With this in mind, Brown mentioned that the City will be investigating contracting out these services
with other agencies. He said that all options are being considered, including discussions with other City’s,
like Chanhassen, to combine services.
Young asked whether other Cities have been faced with the same problems in dealing with MCES and what
problems are we faced with exactly. Chair Arnst indicated that via Mayor’s meetings there seems to be some
concern among other Cities, however, Deephaven and Excelsior having new administrators have not felt the
same pressures yet. Chair Arnst continued by pointing out the areas of concern, which include, who is using
the fields, how they could be scheduled better to absorb users, allow for better spacing between games, and
create ways to communicate with our user teams. What we want MCES to handle, they view as outside their
capability. Young asked how Bennet, a private park, handles these concerns and questioned the possibility of
contacting them. Brown believed that while ongoing investigation continues, if two other cities joined forces
this could easily support a full time position for someone.
Turgeon pointed out that the Council will be appointing an MCES Advisory Board representative should be
appointed to further negotiations and investigate other opportunities.
E. Report on Sign for South Shore Community Park
While Dallman was absent, Brown reported that The Tonka Bay Sign Crafters owner recently suffered a
stroke and will be unable to provide the City with a final proposal at this time.
F. Report on Skate Park Rules Sign
Young moved, Callies seconded, to accept the South Shore Community Skate Park sign as submitted.
Motion passed 4/0.
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G. Report on Vandalism to Eddy Station
Brown reported on three vandalism incidents at Eddy station. First, windows have been broken out three
times at Eddy Station, the TUSA field paint was used to paint the building, and the bathroom vents were
kicked in to gain access to the building. Unfortunately, Brown felt the structure would not be secure enough
this year to be used as a warming house and requested the Park Commission delay the free skating park and
warming house idea for another year. Brown noted that South Lakes Police will now be locking up Eddy
Station at night and opening it on weekends, and whose presence should deter additional vandalism. Chair
Arnst suggested an article be submitted to the paper and newsletter pointing out that vandalism has occurred
to the structure and tell people what a shame it is they cannot use the beautiful building created for them due
to these instances of vandalism. Perhaps, parents will speak to their kids about it.
H. Update on Dog Problems
Brown reported that Charlie Davis has commented that there has been great improvement in all parks.
Turgeon suggested submitting an article to the newsletter congratulating the public and thanking them for
keeping the parks clean. Although an ongoing effort, the awareness has grown.
I. Report on Schedule for Neighborhood Meeting at the Seasons
Chair Arnst reminded everyone that an informal meeting will be held at Commissioner Young’s residence on
September 19, 2001 from 5 -6 P.M. to discuss any ongoing concerns about the Skate Park as promised.
J. Reconsider CIP Request Bleachers at Badger Park
Early this spring during the walking tours, discussion took place whether bleachers were necessary at Badger,
and whether football was the direction this park would be taking in the future. The old bleachers were in need
of too many repairs and were removed. With this in mind, Brown noted that by early 2002, bleachers will all
need to comply with new safety codes and currently two other sets need to be retrofit. Commissioners
noticed that spectators have been using lawn chairs at Badger this year and will wait to see the response. It
was also suggested the football boosters consider buying or donating the bleachers themselves should the
question arise.
5. REVIEW PROPOSAL FOR PARK PLANNING BY HOISINGTON KOEGLER GROUP
Brown reported that staff believes the expenditure to hire Hoisington Koegler to be a good investment.
Freeman Park is a premier park in Shorewood and is in need of a solution. Chair Arnst asked Brown to
coordinate the proposal in order to be presented the evening the Park Commission addresses the Freeman
Park Master Plan.
Meyer moved, Young seconded to accept the proposal for Freeman Park as presented by Hoisington
Koegler. Motion passed 4/0.
6.MASTER PLAN REVIEW - STEP 1
Discussion of the Master Plan Reviews will be postponed until the October meeting. Chair Arnst and
Brown encouraged all the Commissioners to get creative and think outside the box by envisioning what
could be possible. What is the South Lakes community lacking that people might enjoy, a water park, etc.
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6. JOINT SESSION WITH PARK COMMISSIONS
As added earlier. Chair Arnst suggested inviting other South Lakes Community Park Commissions over
to discuss similar budget issues, shared services, and open up new dialogues with them on all fronts.
Other Commissioners were agreeable and urged the open house to be informal and a light fun evening.
7. NEW BUSINESS
Brown mentioned that September 18, 2001 from 5 - 7 P.M. there will be an Open House for Lake Linden
Drive residents to talk about the possibilities there, even a potential trail, and he invited members of the
Park Commission to attend.
8. ADJOURNMENT
Meyer Moved, Callies seconded, adjourning the regular Park Commission Meeting of September
11, 2001 at 8:42 P.M. Motion passed 4/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
RECORDING SECRETARY