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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING COUNCIL CHAMBERS
TUESDAY, MAY 14, 2002 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Arnst called the meeting to order at 7:01 P.M.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Arnst; Commissioners Meyer, Young, Callies, Bartlett, and Palesch; City Engineer
Brown; and Council Liaison Lizée
B. Review Agenda
Chair Arnst asked to remove item #7 from the Regular Park Commission Agenda and discuss it during a
Work Session following the regular meeting.
Palesch moved, Meyer seconded, approving the suggested change to the Park Commission Agenda.
Motion passed 6/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Minutes of April 23, 2002
Young moved, Palesch seconded, approving the Regular Park Commission Minutes of April 23, 2002,
as submitted. Motion passed 6/0.
B. Park Commission Work Session Minutes of April 23, 2002
Palesch moved, Callies seconded, approving the Park Commission Work Session Minutes of April 23,
2002, as presented. Motion passed 6/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR -
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting of May 13, 2002
Liaison Lizée reported that the City Council accepted the business plan for the proposed “Depot” Concessions
at Eddy Station. She complimented staff and Engineer Brown on a thorough analysis and well thought out
proposal. Palesch asked Brown when the “Depot” would be open for business. Brown stated that with the
equipment on order and advertising under way for staff to operate the concessions, he hoped to see it up and
running in two to three weeks.
Lizée added that the Legacy Foundation made a brief presentation to the Council on their plans for the
Commons in Excelsior. Upon which the Council invited the Foundation to give a full-scale presentation to a
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combination of the five south shore community Park Commissions. She will keep the Commission abreast of
any developments.
One item was removed from the Consent Agenda last evening, which entailed MCES providing lifeguard
services for the City. Lizée reported that Council and staff felt that MCES should continue to provide the
lifeguard services they have in the past.
Finally, Lizée relayed that Police Chief Litsey and Fire Chief DuCharme were in attendance and gave a
presentation on the status of the joint service facility.
B. Update on Park Management
Brown reported that he had obtained an opinion from City Attorney Keane that states, because park
management services fall under the realm of professional services, it is not necessary to ask for RFP’s.
Chair Arnst asked what the next step would be for the City. Brown indicated that two alternatives exist, either,
newspaper ads can be placed or the City can pursue a letter of interest they have received. Palesch believed
that the most logical, economical, and expedient route would be to move forward with those people who have
given a letter of interest. Meyer agreed, stating that she was comfortable moving in that direction. Chair Arnst
maintained that the group submitting the letter of interest has displayed both reliability and dependability, is
familiar with the City, and the process that has taken place regarding park management, therefore, the City
should proceed with them. Callies urged staff and the Commission to start developing a job description in order
to meet the self imposed goal of July 1, 2002. Brown indicated that he would proceed in the direction given.
C. Update on Parking lot and Road Closure at Freeman Park
Brown reported that during the last Public Information Meeting, a neighbor, the Osha’s, who share the access
to Highway 7, voiced their objection of late to the access closure. Brown indicated that up until this time, the
Osha’s have been kept in the loop regarding the plans for closure, and only now with the impending deadline,
have they chosen to oppose it. Brown explained that the state needs to have open buy in from all affected
parties and right of ways need to be obtained without objection before they will sign off on the project. With
the state deadline fast approaching, Brown pointed out that if MnDOT is hesitant to help negotiate the
situation, the City may back off entirely from the closure. Young questioned whether the closure of the access
to Freeman could be obtained without disrupting the neighbors access. Brown noted that staff is working on
the answer to that.
D. Update on Smithtown Road
The City has given the go ahead for engineers to perform the survey work for a final design. Brown explained
that this is a lengthy process that could take from four to five weeks, at which time, they would then start a lot
by lot tally regarding right of ways in order to nail down a final design.
5. MANOR PARK - SHIRLEY RICE MEMORIAL GARDEN PROPOSAL BY SOUTHSHORE
GARDENERS
Rebecca Fish, of the Southshore Gardeners, offered a proposal for improvements to the Shirley Rice Memorial
Garden, an integral part of the City’s Adopt a Garden program. Recently, the Shirley Rice family donated
$2,500 for improvements to the garden. Ms. Fish and the Southshore Gardeners suggested this
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donation be applied to a small side expansion to the garden in which a garden bench could be purchased and
placed. The expansion would include the purchase of a bench, flagstone, and possibly edging. She pointed out
that another Shorewood resident has generously offered to donate additional perennials for them to add to the
garden, which would limit expenditures.
Chair Arnst asked if additional costs were involved. Ms. Fish stated that the work was performed by
volunteers, but inquired over a possible bench supplier. Palesch suggested using a local artisan to create a
unique bench for the garden, perhaps of carved wood. Fish liked the idea and would suggest it at her garden
meeting the next evening. Brown stated that he could supply her with potential commercial bench sources, as
well as, the names of potential local artisans.
Callies moved, Meyer seconded, that the Park Commission recommends staff work with the gardeners to
make the proposal happen. Motion passed 6/0.
6. DISCUSS REQUEST FROM MINNETONKA GIRLS SOFTBALL REGARDING SOFTBALL
FIELD CHANGES
Jeff Bailey, 19660 Sweetwater Curve, Vice-President of the Minnetonka Girls Softball Association, presented a
proposal set forth by the Association which would include the placement of additional bases and pitching
rubbers using a receptacle and post system. As Bailey explained, Freeman fields 4, 5, and 6 are mainly set up
for adult softball, and what is being proposed is fairly common practice where you might find both adult and
youths using the same fields. The modifications will allow for shorter distances for the girls between the
pitching rubbers and the bases. The association will incur the costs and Bailey was merely looking for
permission to install the systems.
Chair Arnst pointed out that by allowing these permanent receptacles, the City will be able to accommodate
different forms of the game, which in turn, lends to the Commission’s desire to diversify the fields. She
reminded Bailey to work with staff to ensure the proposal complies with City ordinances and reiterated to him
that any changes they make become property of the City.
Palesch moved, Meyer seconded, accepting the proposal submitted by Minnetonka Girls Softball
Association for alterations to the softball fields 4, 5, and 6. Motion passed 6/0.
Bailey added one additional comment regarding the Concessions. With a captive audience of over 150 plus
girls on the fields on Sunday afternoons, Bailey commented that he is eagerly awaiting the grand opening of the
Concessions at Eddy Station.
8. SOUTH TONKA BASEBALL - FREEMAN PARK DUGOUTS
Brown provided background regarding the Freeman Park Dugout shelters. As discussed in previous meetings,
last year the City granted South Tonka Baseball a conditional use permit to construct dugout shelters in three
locations on fields 1 and 2 at Freeman Park. A fourth location, the third base side of field 2, was not approved
due to a setback variance issue. At the time, the structures that were built did not conform to the approved
plans and were required to be removed. Representatives of South Tonka have now requested approval for
seasonal awnings in place of the permanent structures.
Brown pointed out that the proposal is relatively simple and displayed a picture of a sample awning. These
awnings are seasonal and would only be up during the baseball season, roughly April 1 - October 31. Brown
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continued that the earlier concept presented to the Park Commission did not include plans or a picture, thus,
the Commission was hesitant to make a recommendation. Since that time, after reviewing plans, the Planning
Commission made a recommendation contingent upon review and approval of the Park Commission. Brown
indicated that if both Commission’s were in agreement, then the recommendation would be forwarded to the
Council for a formal decision on May 28, 2002.
Callies questioned the need to attach dates to the recommendation. Tichy indicated that with or without the
dates, the awnings would be removed after the season to avoid unneeded wear and tear on the awnings during
the winter months.
Meyer moved, Palesch seconded, approving the dugout design for fields 1 and 2, four locations including
the third baseline of field 2. Motion passed 6/0.
9. REVIEW SIGN PERMIT FOR SKATE PARK
Brown reported that there had been a delay in obtaining the design of the Skate Park sign due to health
problems on behalf of the contractor. Chair Arnst encouraged Brown to check the language as previously
discussed regarding the sign. She also asked if this sign, as well as, the rules signage could be posted forthwith.
Brown apologized, indicating that staff is currently under many other deadlines which limit his ability to install
these signs in a more timely fashion.
Meyer moved, Palesch seconded, approving the sign permit application presented for the Southshore
Community Park. Motion passed 6/0.
10. REPORT ON CONCESSION STAND OPERATIONS
- Discussed earlier.
11. NEW BUSINESS
Callies questioned whether Brown had received the note from Ken Dallman regarding the issue of a
freestanding water fountain at Eddy Station, Freeman Park. Brown mentioned that although he had
received the e-mail, due to code issues and the costs, nearing $8,500, it is unlikely going to happen. Brown
indicated that he will follow-up and obtain firm numbers for its installation.
12. ADJOURNMENT
Palesch moved, Callies seconded, adjourning the Regular Park Commission Meeting of May 14,
2002, to Work Session at 7:52 P.M. Motion passed 6/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi Anderson
Recording Secretary