051005 PK MIN
CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING CITY HALL
TUESDAY, MAY 10, 2005 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1. CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Davis called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Davis, Commissioners Young, Farniok, Westerlund, and Wagner; City Engineer
Brown
Absent: Commissioners Meyer and Moonen; and City Council liaison Liz é e
B. Review Agenda
Items #5 and #6 were addressed in reverse order.
Wagner moved, Westerlund seconded, approving the Agenda as amended. Motion passed 5/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of April 12, 2005
Westerlund moved, Young seconded, approving the Minutes of the April 12, 2005, Park Commission
Meeting as presented. Motion passed 5/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meeting of April 25, 2005 and May 9, 2005
Brown reported that the rehabilitation of the well building at Badger Park was put to bid and would be paid
for out of the water fund.
Wagner asked whether the construction would impact sports organizations.
Brown indicated that the only impact would be that a construction trailer would be parked in some of the
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hockey spots during construction. On May 9, the City Council discussed past public information meetings
regarding potential traffic changes at Radisson Road, near Christmas Lake Road. While it will remain two-
way traffic for now, Brown pointed out that further thought would need to be given to making it more
pedestrian friendly.
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B. Update on Concessions
Brown reported that Mr. Withum, the new concessionaire, was up and running for a flat fee of $1,200, plus
$100 per tournament. The City was looking forward to a successful and long-term relationship with the
new vendor.
C. Update on Music in the Park
Brown reported that members of the City Council donated $300, which the City will match. This, added to
the $2,000 budgeted for Music in the Parks and a $500 donation from the Park Foundation, the
Commission will be near its estimated $3,200 expenditure for the event.
6. DISCUSS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR PARKS
Chair Davis asked where the money for CIP is kept and whether it could be tapped for pond projects or
trail extensions.
Brown stated that CIP improvements are laid out in the 5 year plan which is a part of the master plan and
is scheduled to be updated this year to cover the next 5 years. He pointed out that the City Council has
earmarked $10,000 per year for CIP small park improvements, though the Commission has already spent
an estimated $14,000 for the skate park improvements.
Chair Davis pointed out that $14,000 for the skate park was higher than first anticipated.
Brown stated that due to fuel costs, labor, and material costs the price tag had gone up. With regard to the
overlay of the skate park surface, Brown stated that Mr. Burry, of Midwest Asphalt Company, has
promised to get back to him soon.
Wagner moved, Westerlund seconded, to proceed with the purchase and placement of the skate park
equipment, and once the City has evaluated the need for the overlay to do so. Motion passed 5/0.
Chair Davis asked whether the initial $8,000 budgeted for the equipment last year would be taken out of
last year’s budget as it was slated, or this year’s budget.
Brown pointed out that the CIP is a fluid document which can be amended before the City Council to
complete worthwhile projects.
Wagner inquired who manages the CIP fund balance, noting that it appeared the interest rate was merely
1% on an amount this size.
Brown stated that Finance Director Burton, with input from investment advisors, manages the fund.
Westerlund asked why the city had declined adding additional park space in lieu of dedication fees.
Brown stated that the City had been accepting dedication fees instead of land based on a referendum put
before the citizens 12 years ago which indicated they were satisfied with the amount of dedicated park land.
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Chair Davis suggested the City consider revisiting this from the standpoint of land preservation and passive
park use.
Brown pointed out that there are few lots left to be developed in Shorewood; therefore, little funding has
been available to make improvements until now based on these few remaining developments such as Cub
Foods. Brown cautioned the Commission that, from a construction standpoint, the CIP fund was not
significant.
Wagner suggested the Commission or City begin to investigate alternate sources of funding.
Brown concurred, encouraging the Commission to take the charge of finding alternate funding, or partners
for projects like the water rehab project.
5. REVIEW MASTER PLAN
While a review of the master plan or Comp Plan should be done in conjunction with the CIP, Brown asked
for comment from the Commission.
Westerlund requested additional time to review the master plan, just handed to her this evening, and
compare it to the CIP before discussing individual parks this evening.
Young suggested the master plan be broken into pieces for ease of evaluation.
Westerlund suggested the Commission discuss the CIP with regard to each park on the tour, i.e. Manor,
Silverwood, and Freeman, following the park tour itself. Westerlund reported that she had contacted Mr.
Osgood, a renowned limnologist, to join the Commission at Manor Park, though he was unable to attend a
staff member of the MCWD volunteered to join the Commission the night of the tour.
Young commented that it would be advantageous to have an ‘expert’ on hand at Manor Park to discuss the
options or recommendations for the pond.
Brown summarized the Commission’s desire to spend more time evaluating the CIP and Master Plan in
light of the budget, consider dates for the next park tour and which parks would be evaluated from the
Master Plan next.
Wagner pointed out that it would be useful to be given a list of major rehab projects slated within the next
5 years as they evaluate the CIP.
Brown noted that major updates are done every 10 years with the development of the new comp plan,
estimated for 2008.
Young stated that he would like to see updates of designated deficiencies inserted into the master plan
packet, with dates, following each tour to determine what has changed from year to year with regard to
improvements and the CIP.
Chair Davis agreed.
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A. Role of Horticulture and Tree Inventory
Chair Davis pointed out that the role of horticulture and a tree inventory should be considered as part of the
Master Plan.
Brown stated that the sample tree inventory supplied by Chair Davis brought two questions to light, first,
what does the Park Commission wish to achieve by performing a tree inventory and why, and what goals
would the Commission like to achieve.
Chair Davis indicated that she would be interested in determining where the public stood with regard to
active versus passive use. She questioned whether the residents value active use, parks, open space, trees,
or what people’s attitudes might be. Davis felt people have a desire to protect the City’s assets, the open
spaces, old woods, etc. as part of the bigger picture.
Wagner stated that the public is well aware that buckthorn is a nuisance and should be informed or taught
how to get a handle on it.
Although tree inventories are expensive and time consuming, Brown pointed out that, with new technology,
there might be an opportunity to incorporate a GPS unit that staff could use for dual purposes, and perform
the survey work themselves.
Westerlund agreed that a formal tree inventory would be over the top for the cities needs; however, if the
Commission could identify a good stand of trees within one of the parks, via aerial photos the Commission
could make a recommendation of what the City has and what is worth preserving. Westerlund viewed the
inventory as an opportunity for restoration, habitat preservation, hazardous tree identification, and health of
current trees.
Wagner stated that he liked the idea of educating people, on a small scale, as to the value of a stand of trees
or species and showing them an example within one of the parks.
Brown asked Westerlund to forward him the name of someone who he could talk to about this process and
the cost for performing a small scale inventory.
Farniok stated that it would be relevant to get more detail of what is in Shorewood’s parks to aid the
Commission in making a judgment of what should be added or preserved.
Chair Davis questioned Brown whether he knew if Gideon Glen would become one of the responsibilities of
the Park Commission.
Westerlund explained that the City, County, and MCWD have a cooperative agreement in place that
indicates that the MCWD will be responsible for the planning and development of the trails and kiosks. The
Park Commission, on the other hand, can be involved in the planning process of the interpretive signs and
kiosks themselves.
Young asked what the timeline for completion was.
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Westerlund stated that in a year the project should be complete and should consist of three parts, the
stormwater pond with a grit chamber, wetland restoration, and a maple basswood forest preservation
project.
Chair Davis reiterated her question whether the park would become part of the Commission stewardship
and/or if the project would come with an endowment of sorts.
Brown stated that those answers were unknown to date.
Wagner stated that the real question is how the public will perceive the Gideon Glen area. If it appears to
be seen as one of the City parks, then the Commission should have a hand in its stewardship.
Brown noted that Gideon Glen would take a few years to be established and would be overseen in the
process by several organizations, as the educational and preservation components intermingle. He pointed
out that a tree inventory would be key to planning in this case to identify what is present and where it
should be headed.
B. Education on Buckthorn Control and Eradication
Since Buckthorn is a community wide problem, Brown stated that it would be beneficial to choose a central
location, like a park, where a buckthorn removal program could be instigated for educational purposes, as
well as, for beautification.
Wagner pointed out that a combination of a tree inventory and buckthorn removal program would be a
worthwhile endeavor for the Commission to pursue.
Farniok suggested developing an ongoing proactive plan to go after the buckthorn, by providing ‘weed
wrenches’ to the public, and an education campaign.
Brown pointed out that the city of St. Paul has hit buckthorn on many fronts, including a public education
program, providing the tools to remove it, sponsoring buckthorn busting parties, etc. he suggested staff
review its education pieces and potentially order some weed wrenches and report back.
Farniok encouraged the Commission to choose a visible park, like Freeman, to begin. Target key dates in
the fall, following the educational component over the summer, and host a busting party, which would then
be followed up by incorporating removal into the spring clean-up campaign next year.
Chair Davis concurred, stating that it would be a good fit for spring clean-up, or as an incentive, the City
could volunteer to take the removed buckthorn away.
Brown felt a buckthorn removal and education program would be a nice compliment to the save our
valuable trees, as discussed earlier.
C. Explore Methods to Reduce Vandalism within the Parks Via Work Session and Information
From MN Rec & Park Assoc.
Chair Davis stated that the gross damage amount of $11,000 was an incredibly high cost to the citizens due
to vandalism.
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Brown stated that he had not had an opportunity to compile a great deal of data from other communities of
what they’ve done to deter vandalism. He commented that it is nice the senior community near Freeman
keeps a watchful eye on activity there and reports incidents immediately. While the cameras at Freeman
have created some awareness and deterred some vandalism, he would assemble more information to report
at a future meeting.
Since cameras had been somewhat effective at Freeman, Wagner suggested that the City consider installing
decoy cameras at other key locations.
7. DETERMINE LIAISON FOR JUNE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS
May – Young
June 27 – Chair Davis
8. NEW BUSINESS
Farniok asked whether the deer population was a park problem or even a city problem worthy of discussion
at some future date.
Brown stated that deer were not a park issue, nor did the City Council wish to address managing the deer
herd population.
Wagner asked what the status of some of the new park signs was.
Brown stated that both the custom and non-custom designs had been approved, a vendor chosen, and
installation would occur soon.
The Commission agreed that new signs at the park entrances would be replaced as necessary; however, the
rules and directionals would be posted immediately.
Chair Davis brought up an issue regarding a joggers complaints regarding sediment along Lake Linden.
Brown reported that he had spoken to this individual many times. While there is little that can be done other
than deepening the v-ditch near the trail, the resident continues to pursue the matter in an attempt to get the
answer he desires, with little regard to the impacts further changes would have on nearby residences.
9. ADJOURN
Wagner moved, Westerlund seconded, adjourning the Park Commission Meeting of May 10, 2005 at
9:17 p.m. Motion passed 5/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
Recording Secretary