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CITY OF SHOREWOOD 5755 COUNTRY CLUB ROAD
PARK COMMISSION MEETING SHOREWOOD CITY HALL
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2006 7:00 P.M.
MINUTES
1.CONVENE PARK COMMISSION MEETING
Chair Davis called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
A. Roll Call
Present: Chair Davis; Commissioners Young, Westerlund, Norman, Moonen, and Hensley;
City Engineer Brown; and City Council liaison Turgeon
Absent: Commissioner Trent
B. Review Agenda
Westerlund moved, Young seconded, approving the Agenda as submitted. Motion passed 6/0.
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of September 13, 2006
Young moved, Moonen seconded, approving the Minutes of the September 13, 2006 Park
Commission as amended. Motion passed 6/0.
B. Park Commission Meeting Minutes of October 10, 2006
Page 3, item B, an additional question was added to the Minutes with regard to ‘why the 8’ slide at
$2600 was significantly more expensive than the $1400 6’ slide’.
Hensley moved, Chair Davis seconded, approving the Minutes of the October 10, 2006 Park
Commission Meeting as amended. Motion passed 6/0.
3. MATTERS FROM THE FLOOR
There were none.
4. REPORTS
A. Report on City Council Meetings
Brown reported that a residential PUD was approved for the property located at Bauman Court
and Manor Road which is shared by the cities of Deephaven and Shorewood. He commented that
he would be investigating how the fees would be divided up.
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B. Update on Lake Minnewashta Regional Dog Park Meeting of October 18
Chair Davis reported that the City of Shorewood had committed to matching the Park Foundation’s
donation up to $5000, which has been met, bringing Shorewood’s total donation to $10,000 for the
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construction of the Dog Park. With the $30,000 pledged by Chanhassen, the Carver County Parks
system has met its goal of raising $40,000. The Carver County Parks representatives pointed out
that Chanhassen, Shorewood Parks and the Foundation would be recognized with a large sign at
the entry to the dog park.
Davis continued, stating that the funds would be used for the parking lot, fencing the entire 18
acres, chipping the trail, and making some areas wheelchair accessible. After completion near the
end of 2007, the entire park will be maintained by Carver Parks. Chair Davis stated that the Carver
Parks system wishes to be provided with some sort of agreement that states the City’s commitment
to the money pledged.
Westerlund questioned what budget the funds would be coming out of.
Brown stated that the funds were committed to out of the operating budget of the Park CIP.
Chair Davis asked staff to take the lead on drawing up a standard letter of agreement that commits
to the pledged funding. She noted that, while the Foundation wished to complete their donation by
the end of this year, she would prefer that the City hold off until the construction process is
underway.
Chair Davis moved, Hensley seconded, recommending authorization that City staff create an
agreement to provide the $5,000 matching funds for the Minnewashta Dog Park upon
substantial completion in 2007 acknowledging that this is a one time payment and that the
City of Shorewood is not responsible for the maintenance or operation of the facility and
includes the appropriate recognition as discussed at the October 18, 2006 meeting. Motion
passed 6/0.
The Commission acknowledged that the agreement could be moved forward to City Council for
approval and final clarification.
C. Update on Winter Community Event
Chair Davis reported that the Curling Team is looking forward to their participation in the winter
community event.
Brown stated that it is amazing how this event has taken hold, noting that Excelsior has stepped up
their participation and gotten very excited as well. He pointed out that the Liquor Store operators
will be hosting a wine tasting on the ice for the event and that several other groups are
contemplating moving their activities to coincide with the community winter event. He mentioned
that the subcommittee would be discussing advertising and potential partnerships with various
downtown groups at their next scheduled meeting. In addition, he noted that the Commission may
want to begin recruiting volunteers to help organize and assist with the events numerous activities.
5. BADGER PARK – SOUTH SHORE SENIOR COMMUNITY CENTER
REQUESTING TO PLACE STORAGE BUILDING ON FIELD
Brown noted that, as an advisory Commission to the City Council, the Park Commission has been
asked to weigh-in on their position with regard to the proposed storage building on park property at
Badger Park. Brown gave a brief synopsis of the proposed storage shed conditions as
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recommended by the Planning Commission, noting that the dimensions had been reduced to a
20’X12’ structure without windows and similar in architecture to the Community Center.
Jerry Brecke, representative of the Southshore Center, pointed out that the Center had experienced
an inability to take care of the stuff that had been accumulated over the years, including attic sale
items, holiday decorations, and snowblowing equipment. He mentioned that the funding for the
storage shed’s construction had been pledged for and that the community center must raise its own
entire operating budget from year to year. He added that, some of the folks have limited mobility at
the center, which must be taken into consideration.
Chair Davis asked how many times per year they host the attic sale and asked how much money is
raised by this event. In addition, she asked why they felt there was a need for such a large space as
compared to similar park structures used by Little League etc.
Brecke stated that the sale is held annually and raises somewhere between $2000-3000. He did not
know exactly what would be stored in the space but indicated that they start collecting items for the
attic sale after the first of the year. He stated that the proposed location is flagged but a couple of
the flags may have been toppled over by an errant pass on the field.
Westerlund asked if there were any other viable site for the shed.
Brown indicated that they had examined numerous other locations for a structure this size, and
determined that this was the only viable site.
Hensley asked whether it could be reduced in size and attached to the side of the center itself. He
noted that the Commission prefers to avoid using park property when possible and that he had
questions with regard to this use.
Brown stated that an addition on the side would interfere with the creek and that other topography
issues would arise. He noted that the parking, ditch area, and end zone constraints make it a
difficult fit.
Westerlund questioned how the building would function if the center failed to continue its
operations.
Brown stated that the buildings use would be at the discression of the City at that time that the
Center ceased to exist.
Hensley asked whether the Center had considered outside off-site storage options. He questioned
whether the City might need additional storage space itself for park items.
Brecke stated that off-site was not desirable. He reiterated that some members with limited mobility
dictate that the storage area is accessible and the topography limits the other options.
Norman asked whether the need for the additional storage trailer would be eliminated if the shed
were allowed.
Brecke stated that they would remove the trailer and that no additional storage would be necessary.
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Chair Davis maintained that she felt this was not a good use of park property. She questioned the
fiscal responsibility and necessity of building a structure to house inventory for a once a year sale.
Davis stated that she would like to be on record stating that she does not believe this to be a good
use of park property, that the structure is too large, and that the building is not in comparable size,
use, or condition to those allowed on other fields by Little League etc. She indicated that she would
be interested in seeing what they need to store that requires such a large storage facility.
Turgeon stated that, having been a member of the Board in the past, she was aware that people
often want to donate things for the attic sale year round. She pointed out that, typically, the left
over items are donated and not stored once the sale is complete in March/April.
Hensley asked how far the structure would be located from the end zone.
Brown stated that, while safety is always a concern, he felt that the location should be okay as it is
situated askew from the end zone.
Moonen stated that he felt it to be a good addition to the senior center and volunteered his
carpentry skills to help complete the construction.
Hensley moved, Norman seconded, to accept the recommendation of the Planning
Commission subject to staff conditions as a one time allowance and that no additional storage
will be necessary in the lot or requests for future storage be considered. Motion passed 5/1.
Chair Davis opposing this use of park property as discussed earlier.
6. DETERMINE RECOGNITION FOR MANOR PARK TREE DONATION
Young stated that he had received an unsolicited comment from someone who complimented the
City on how well Manor Park was looking. He wished to commend the Babcock’s, as well as, the
Garden Club.
Brown stated that the Babcock’s and garden club have done a great job. Despite some of the
additions appearing without permission, Brown noted that in the future donors may need to be
reminded of the process which the City follows in accepting donations. With regard to the donation
of the Spruce trees, Brown suggested that the Commission prepare a Certificate of Appreciation to
be presented to the Babcock’s at a future City Council meeting by a Park Commissioner.
Westerlund moved, Hensley seconded, to direct staff to develop a Certificate of Recognition
to be presented to the Babcock’s at a City Council meeting, the date to be determined.
Motion passed 6/0.
B. SLIDE AT SILVERWOOD PARK
Brown noted that the City Council approved the purchase of an 8’ $2600 replacement slide in kind
for the Silverwood Park to be funded by the Park CIP in stead of the smaller proposed $1400 6’
slide.
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Hensley moved, Norman seconded, accepting the City Council recommendation to replace the
slide at Silverwood Park with the $2600 8’ wavy slide as proposed. Motion passed 6/0.
Brown noted that the City had received a call regarding the poor field and lighting conditions at
Badger Park from a concerned parent last week.
The Commission asked when the lights for Badger would be going out for bid.
Brown stated that the lights would be going out for bid during the winter.
Chair Davis suggested that the Commission hold a work session in January or February to examine
the various park priorities and expenditures pending for 2007.
7. DETERMINE LIAISON FOR NOVEMBER 13TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Westerlund agreed to act as liaison for the November 13, 2006 City Council meeting.
Brown pointed out that the City’s Appreciation Event would be held on December 8, 2006.
8. ADJOURN
Westerlund moved, Norman seconded, adjourning the Park Commission Meeting of October
24, 2006, at 8:33 p.m. Motion passed 6/0.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED,
Kristi B. Anderson
Recording Secretary